I have a simple question for all you Galaxy S5 owners. I am a current owner of the Galaxy Note 2 for AT&T.
I am an AT&T customer, and I am seriously considering buying myself the Unlocked version of the S5.
I can either get the unlocked S5 or the Note 3 NEO.
But in the xda forums, the note 3 neo is practically empty, however, the S5 is promising.
I see few roms with WORK IN PROGRESS status.
Im pretty sure its just a matter of time (and not that much time) that the S5 will have some nice stable official roms by OmniROM, CM, etc...
My questions is this.
mayb I hvent looked ahrd enough, but what can I do with an unlocked S5?
I know I can root it and stuff, does anybody have an S5 and have Xposed Settings modules setup like GravityBox or something?
Or are tehre any nice AOSP roms available that are stable with working cameras and etc??
I just want to know whats up before I spend this money on an S5.
All your input would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
For now I stick with tw roms cause they are stable. You might wanna check AllianceRom out! Xposed is working fine in my use. Alltho Alliance has most of gravity boxes features allready..Hope this helps even a little bit
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ozzyGEEK said:
A simple question about the s5
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Most carriers do not lock their bootloaders. ATT is a notable exception and does lock their S5 bootloader. This means that you cannot use a custom kernel, recovery or ROM in the normal manner. Nor was the ATT model rooted until long after other variants were.
Custom ROMs and recovery need to be emulated with Safestrap on ATT due to the locked bootloader. There is an Developer model that has an unlocked bootloader, but Samsung has a poor record of timely firmware updates for Developer phones making it a questionable tradeoff.
Unless the appeal of a phone subsidy is inescapable for you, you'd do far better to buy the TMobile S5 which has an unlocked bootloader and a thriving Development and custom ROM community. It works just fine on ATT, supports all of the ATT bands + a few that the ATT variant doesn't. Which is an additional advantage for roaming.
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pyry666 said:
For now I stick with tw roms cause they are stable. You might wanna check AllianceRom out! Xposed is working fine in my use. Alltho Alliance has most of gravity boxes features allready..Hope this helps even a little bit
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Earlier this year for about a month I had an S4 without knowing that there was hardly anything I could do with it. I had the verizon version of the S4. This is the first time I fully made use of Xposed and, boy did Xposed do its job!
It actually made touchwiz very pleasant for me to use.. I probably wouldnt mind sticking with touchwiz + xposed and waiting until theres a nice stable omniropm available for the S5 heh=)
thank you guys!
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Most carriers do not lock their bootloaders. ATT is a notable exception and does lock their S5 bootloader. This means that you cannot use a custom kernel, recovery or ROM in the normal manner. Nor was the ATT model rooted until long after other variants were.
Custom ROMs and recovery need to be emulated with Safestrap on ATT due to the locked bootloader. There is an Developer model that has an unlocked bootloader, but Samsung has a poor record of timely firmware updates for Developer phones making it a questionable tradeoff.
Unless the appeal of a phone subsidy is inescapable for you, you'd do far better to buy the TMobile S5 which has an unlocked bootloader and a thriving Development and custom ROM community. It works just fine on ATT, supports all of the ATT bands + a few that the ATT variant doesn't. Which is an additional advantage for roaming.
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I have AT&T but ill be buying the unlocked version of the S5, not the AT&T version.
Ill be able to unlock the bootloader right?
ozzyGEEK said:
I have AT&T but ill be buying the unlocked version of the S5, not the AT&T version.
Ill be able to unlock the bootloader right?
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Your intent here is unclear and incorporates several assumptions. First, clarify what you intend to buy, then we can characterize it.
There are a dozen S5 variants. Which specific model are you referring to? Or at least narrow it down by telling us which carrier you plan to buy it from? You want to buy which unlocked version? From who?
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fffft said:
Your intent here is unclear and incorporates several assumptions. First, clarify what you intend to buy, then we can characterize it.
There are a dozen S5 variants. Which specific model are you referring to? Or at least narrow it down by telling us which carrier you plan to buy it from? You want to buy which unlocked version? From who?
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Its a factory unlocked brand new S5 at a store.. im not sure exactly what model it is exactly. Im getting it a day after tomorrow on wednesday.
ozzyGEEK said:
Its a factory unlocked brand new S5 at a store.. im not sure exactly what model it is exactly. Im getting it a day after tomorrow on wednesday.
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Details are everything. You should know that not all S5 models will work well on ATT. Different S5 variants use different sets of frequency bands.
Could be great. Could be something else entirely.
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I have the International Original N7000 Note. It is unlocked and I have used it on ATT since it came out. I'm rooted and have Rocket ROM on it
Since it was always my phone, I never worried about ATT giving me a hard time about it being Rooted.
But I am thinking of upgrading to the new Note 3 from ATT.
I'm sure ROMs will be developed for it.
What are the pitfalls with ATT if I root the phone? Other than they wouldn't support it if I bricked it.
Will they Brick it with an Update?
Will they detect it is rooted and give me a hard time?
Looks pretty sharp and I can sell my Unlocked International note for some pretty good change still. But I know I'll want to root the phone.
The AT&T boot loader is locked. It will need to be cracked before a custom ROM is possible, and the S4 hasn't been cracked since the original vulnerability was "fixed" .
You may be out of luck with AT&T.
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bladehawk said:
The AT&T boot loader is locked. It will need to be cracked before a custom ROM is possible, and the S4 hasn't been cracked since the original vulnerability was "fixed" .
You may be out of luck with AT&T.
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Hmmm, so none of the ATT branded notes could be rooted?
I'll have to look into some other LTE version perhaps.
les_garten said:
Hmmm, so none of the ATT branded notes could be rooted?
I'll have to look into some other LTE version perhaps.
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They may sell the international version, but I don't know if that's unlocked/ rooted. Keep in mind, carrier unlocked isn't the same. e as bootloader unlocked
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They may sell the international version, but I don't know if that's unlocked/ rooted. Keep in mind, carrier unlocked isn't the same. e as bootloader unlocked
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I see on youtube about Custom ROMs being loaded on ATT Note I and II.
So I'm trying to figure out what you guys are talking about here.
les_garten said:
I see on youtube about Custom ROMs being loaded on ATT Note I and II.
So I'm trying to figure out what you guys are talking about here.
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Haha youtube is littered with fake videos man...you need a better source
So, Was not in the market for a new phone, stopped into at&t, great salesman added a tablet line and set me up with the phone for the contract price plus 10$ a month. good deal.
I Love this phone!! but as I'm moving from apple, want to be able to have absolutely full control over it including custom roms.
From what I'm reading I have the model (900A) which has the bootloader locked.
I am going to order another Note 3 right now and sell this one. What model is Best and will be fully customizable?
I'm sure this has been covered a thousand times. Please simplify this process for me as I continue to research. Thanks!
The one on ebay I'm considering is entitled:
New Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 Quad-Core 5.7'' 13MP 4G LTE 32GB Black Phone
It doesn't matter if the bootloader is locked... You can still customise till your heart content. .. my bootloader is locked. .. hadn't speed me.
To be fair. . There seems more roms available for the n9005 but I'm sure with time they will all get lots of development done
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alom5 said:
It doesn't matter if the bootloader is locked... You can still customise till your heart content. .. my bootloader is locked. .. hadn't speed me.
To be fair. . There seems more roms available for the n9005 but I'm sure with time they will all get lots of development done
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You can load custom roms with a locked bootloader? forgive me, I'm learning as I go
So if I have the 900a.. if I root it am I able to change the color themes etc throughout the system and modify it fully or should I go with the 9005?
If your rooted you are able to change just about everything.
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Once you root it and put a custom recovery like cwm or twrp... Flash what you like lol
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So what specifically are the disadvantages of the 900A vs the 9005?
Thanks for all the help!
Until you root and put in a new ROM the only difference is the ATT bloatware. I know becuase I also have a 900A and have two pages of Apps from ATT that I never will use and can't rid of. In a nut shell the 900A is just ATT variant of the 900.
If you want to see all the difference between the 900A and the 9005 head over to gsmarena and compare the 2.
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What can you do with a bootloader that you can't do with a locked bootloader?
Will I be better off with a phone with an unlocked bootloader.
Explain it to me like I'm a child. Like I said earlier, am moving from apple so it's all new to me.
I don't want to get deep into it and realize I need an unlocked bootloader to do what I want to do.
If it is a non issue tell me why.
Thanks for the help.
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With a locked bootloader you can still root, but if you try to flash a recovery/kernel/etc the bootloader will refuse to boot it because it is unsigned. That means no recovery, no kernels, no ROMs...only stock ROM tweaking. The N900A, N9005, N900T, and a few other models are all essentially the same phone with different bootloaders, modems, and stock ROMs. I'd recommend the N900T (T-Mobile) which has all the bands needed for AT&T LTE ready to use after you get it unlocked. The N9005 (international Qualcomm) version lacks the LTE bands for AT&T/T-Mobile I think but you might be able to flash a T-Mo or AT&T modem file to enable them as I think the hardware is actually the same inside.
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Can any custom ROM be installed on a s4 that us been upgraded to the latest firmware? I know at one time it couldn't be updated past the current version that was out for the phone. I'm looking at trading my nexus 5 for an s4 or another phone with expandable storage and better battery life but I like custom ROMs so much more. Can anyone shine a light on this for me?
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Can any custom ROM be installed on a s4 that us been upgraded to the latest firmware? I know at one time it couldn't be updated past the current version that was out for the phone. I'm looking at trading my nexus 5 for an s4 or another phone with expandable storage and better battery life but I like custom ROMs so much more. Can anyone shine a light on this for me?
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Which model S4 do you have/what carrier? Not all of them run all custom ROMs. If you have an AT&T i337 then you can only use Touchwiz ROMs and three specific Google Phone Edition ROMs. No CM,PA,AOKP, anything of the sort.
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Which model S4 do you have/what carrier? Not all of them run all custom ROMs. If you have an AT&T i337 then you can only use Touchwiz ROMs and three specific Google Phone Edition ROMs. No CM,PA,AOKP, anything of the sort.
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I'm on At&t networks so I was looking at the at&t variant but since I can only use certain ROMs I'll think I'll look in other directions. Thanks!
What about t mobile variant? And I had a note 2 one time and I remember that you can sim unlock it from a special settings menu. Is this true for the s4 as well? Thanks!
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What about t mobile variant? And I had a note 2 one time and I remember that you can sim unlock it from a special settings menu. Is this true for the s4 as well? Thanks!
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T-Mobile S4 can be flashed with any ROM and is unlockable. I know some people around here are doing the same thing, using a T-Mobile S4 on AT&T.
Hi, I am planning to buy refurbished Note 3 in a 3 days but I could not find any development for this variant. Is it same with International Note 3 (HLTE) or completely different variant. If it is so I have to cancel since I really dont like Touchwiz and want to use AOSP build on the device.
Thanks in advance.
sevindi said:
Hi, I am planning to buy refurbished Note 3 in a 3 days but I could not find any development for this variant. Is it same with International Note 3 (HLTE) or completely different variant. If it is so I have to cancel since I really dont like Touchwiz and want to use AOSP build on the device.
Thanks in advance.
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No? And what is this?
Joku1981 said:
No? And what is this?
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Well there is no AOSP roms?
sevindi said:
Hi, I am planning to buy refurbished Note 3 in a 3 days but I could not find any development for this variant. Is it same with International Note 3 (HLTE) or completely different variant. If it is so I have to cancel since I really dont like Touchwiz and want to use AOSP build on the device.
Thanks in advance.
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The AT&T model is locked at the bootloader, so there will not be any AOSP ROMs for that variant. You will probably want the unlocked, international variant.
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The AT&T model is locked at the bootloader, so there will not be any AOSP ROMs for that variant. You will probably want the unlocked, international variant.
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Can I install international AOSP roms if bootloader is unlocked?
sevindi said:
Can I install international AOSP roms if bootloader is unlocked?
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If it was unlocked (which it isn't), someone would still need to do the actual work of bringing up the device trees for the ROMs. But as the bootloader has never been unlocked, this doesn't really matter.
Recently I purchased a note 3 off ebay to use tell Im available for an upgrade. I'm not sure what software version is on it cause I haven't gotten it. Just have a few questions.
Is the only way you can root is in 4.4.2 ?
If the phone comes can't I downgrade from 5.0 to 4.4.4 and them to 4.4.2.
Please understand I'm new to Samsung so not sure it all works. Coming from all htc devices like DNA and one max.
Welcvome aboard
thayl0 said:
Recently I purchased a note 3 off ebay to use tell Im available for an upgrade. I'm not sure what software version is on it cause I haven't gotten it. Just have a few questions.
Is the only way you can root is in 4.4.2 ?
If the phone comes can't I downgrade from 5.0 to 4.4.4 and them to 4.4.2.
Please understand I'm new to Samsung so not sure it all works. Coming from all htc devices like DNA and one max.
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no, you can root Lollipop as well.
there are ways to downgrade but you have to be careful...
Look out for threads in General section and work on the method specific to your model (about downgrade)
this is for N900 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/safe-to-downgrade-ll-to-kk-sm-n900-t3016966 :angel:
nijom said:
no, you can root Lollipop as well.
there are ways to downgrade but you have to be careful...
Look out for threads in General section and work on the method specific to your model (about downgrade)
this is for N900 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/safe-to-downgrade-ll-to-kk-sm-n900-t3016966 :angel:
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Thank you for the quick reply is the n900 and n900v the same thing cause !my model coming is the n900v
Do you think I should try to root lollipop before I try to downgrade.
Wouldn't I follow this guide to root and install trwp n custom rom after.
https://youtu.be/eDHSXn5KwAw
thayl0 said:
Thank you for the quick reply is the n900 and n900v the same thing cause !my model coming is the n900v
Do you think I should try to root lollipop before I try to downgrade.
Wouldn't I follow this guide to root and install trwp n custom rom after.
https://youtu.be/eDHSXn5KwAw
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Do not downgrade. Why would you do that?
No it is not the same, flashing other variants roms will brick yours. Or supersu twrp etc.
V is for Verizon
kenny1991 said:
Do not downgrade. Why would you do that?
No it is not the same, flashing other variants roms will brick yours. Or supersu twrp etc.
V is for Verizon
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Could you please link me to an guide on n900V and how to root it on lollipop. Samsung and HTC devices are way different in how to do things and I don't want to screw up. Hopefully you understand.
thayl0 said:
Could you please link me to an guide on n900V and how to root it on lollipop. Samsung and HTC devices are way different in how to do things and I don't want to screw up. Hopefully you understand.
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Verizon version is not rootable, nor does it accept custom recoveries. You better choose another variant, if that is important to you.
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Verizon version is not rootable, nor does it accept custom recoveries. You better choose another variant, if that is important to you.
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Because it has locked bootloader, right?
So there is no way to unlock the bootloader like with Sonys? Like asking for unlock code from Verizon?
kenny1991 said:
Because it has locked bootloader, right?
So there is no way to unlock the bootloader like with Sonys? Like asking for unlock code from Verizon?
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You are correct. Samsung phones all come bootloader unlocked, unless the carriers wants them locked (as was the case with Verizon and AT&T for the Note 4).
The locked versions have almost never successfully been unlocked.
So if you can, stay away from these two variants.
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You are correct. Samsung phones all come bootloader unlocked, unless the carriers wants them locked (as was the case with Verizon and AT&T for the Note 4).
The locked versions have almost never successfully been unlocked.
So if you can, stay away from these two variants.
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Then why are people saying I can root it.... I do know the phone is coming networked unlocked. I find it crazy that if you can't unlock a verizon bootloader that there are roms that support verizon.
So what your telling me is there's no possible way to root even on stock so i can run xposed framework.?
thayl0 said:
Then why are people saying I can root it.... I do know the phone is coming networked unlocked. I find it crazy that if you can't unlock a verizon bootloader that there are roms that support verizon.
So what your telling me is there's no possible way to root even on stock so i can run xposed framework.?
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Some firmware versions have vulnerabilities, which can be exploited to gain root/install safestrap. Some versions allow downgrading to vulnerable versions. But not all.
You should check the Verizon forums for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3.
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Some firmware versions have vulnerabilities, which can be exploited to gain root/install safestrap. Some versions allow downgrading to vulnerable versions. But not all.
You should check the Verizon forums for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3.
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Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
thayl0 said:
Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
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Sorry, I don't know much about the US carriers, so don't know how they interoperate.
thayl0 said:
Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
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No. Verizon uses CDMA and will not allow 3rd party phones on their network. T-Mobile uses GSM and will NOT work on Verizon network. Period. You MUST use a Verizon branded device on Verizon network.
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toastido said:
No. Verizon uses CDMA and will not allow 3rd party phones on their network. T-Mobile uses GSM and will NOT work on Verizon network. Period. You MUST use a Verizon branded device on Verizon network.
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Well, just got the phone in the mail and it seems that it came with 5.0 so I guess I'm outta luck for root. First phone I've ever had that I can't root. I'm sad aha