Note I vs Note III ATT Should I? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have the International Original N7000 Note. It is unlocked and I have used it on ATT since it came out. I'm rooted and have Rocket ROM on it
Since it was always my phone, I never worried about ATT giving me a hard time about it being Rooted.
But I am thinking of upgrading to the new Note 3 from ATT.
I'm sure ROMs will be developed for it.
What are the pitfalls with ATT if I root the phone? Other than they wouldn't support it if I bricked it.
Will they Brick it with an Update?
Will they detect it is rooted and give me a hard time?
Looks pretty sharp and I can sell my Unlocked International note for some pretty good change still. But I know I'll want to root the phone.

The AT&T boot loader is locked. It will need to be cracked before a custom ROM is possible, and the S4 hasn't been cracked since the original vulnerability was "fixed" .
You may be out of luck with AT&T.
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bladehawk said:
The AT&T boot loader is locked. It will need to be cracked before a custom ROM is possible, and the S4 hasn't been cracked since the original vulnerability was "fixed" .
You may be out of luck with AT&T.
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Hmmm, so none of the ATT branded notes could be rooted?
I'll have to look into some other LTE version perhaps.

les_garten said:
Hmmm, so none of the ATT branded notes could be rooted?
I'll have to look into some other LTE version perhaps.
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They may sell the international version, but I don't know if that's unlocked/ rooted. Keep in mind, carrier unlocked isn't the same. e as bootloader unlocked

bladehawk said:
They may sell the international version, but I don't know if that's unlocked/ rooted. Keep in mind, carrier unlocked isn't the same. e as bootloader unlocked
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I see on youtube about Custom ROMs being loaded on ATT Note I and II.
So I'm trying to figure out what you guys are talking about here.

les_garten said:
I see on youtube about Custom ROMs being loaded on ATT Note I and II.
So I'm trying to figure out what you guys are talking about here.
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Haha youtube is littered with fake videos man...you need a better source

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A simple question about the s5

I have a simple question for all you Galaxy S5 owners. I am a current owner of the Galaxy Note 2 for AT&T.
I am an AT&T customer, and I am seriously considering buying myself the Unlocked version of the S5.
I can either get the unlocked S5 or the Note 3 NEO.
But in the xda forums, the note 3 neo is practically empty, however, the S5 is promising.
I see few roms with WORK IN PROGRESS status.
Im pretty sure its just a matter of time (and not that much time) that the S5 will have some nice stable official roms by OmniROM, CM, etc...
My questions is this.
mayb I hvent looked ahrd enough, but what can I do with an unlocked S5?
I know I can root it and stuff, does anybody have an S5 and have Xposed Settings modules setup like GravityBox or something?
Or are tehre any nice AOSP roms available that are stable with working cameras and etc??
I just want to know whats up before I spend this money on an S5.
All your input would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
For now I stick with tw roms cause they are stable. You might wanna check AllianceRom out! Xposed is working fine in my use. Alltho Alliance has most of gravity boxes features allready..Hope this helps even a little bit
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ozzyGEEK said:
A simple question about the s5
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Most carriers do not lock their bootloaders. ATT is a notable exception and does lock their S5 bootloader. This means that you cannot use a custom kernel, recovery or ROM in the normal manner. Nor was the ATT model rooted until long after other variants were.
Custom ROMs and recovery need to be emulated with Safestrap on ATT due to the locked bootloader. There is an Developer model that has an unlocked bootloader, but Samsung has a poor record of timely firmware updates for Developer phones making it a questionable tradeoff.
Unless the appeal of a phone subsidy is inescapable for you, you'd do far better to buy the TMobile S5 which has an unlocked bootloader and a thriving Development and custom ROM community. It works just fine on ATT, supports all of the ATT bands + a few that the ATT variant doesn't. Which is an additional advantage for roaming.
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pyry666 said:
For now I stick with tw roms cause they are stable. You might wanna check AllianceRom out! Xposed is working fine in my use. Alltho Alliance has most of gravity boxes features allready..Hope this helps even a little bit
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Earlier this year for about a month I had an S4 without knowing that there was hardly anything I could do with it. I had the verizon version of the S4. This is the first time I fully made use of Xposed and, boy did Xposed do its job!
It actually made touchwiz very pleasant for me to use.. I probably wouldnt mind sticking with touchwiz + xposed and waiting until theres a nice stable omniropm available for the S5 heh=)
thank you guys!
fffft said:
Most carriers do not lock their bootloaders. ATT is a notable exception and does lock their S5 bootloader. This means that you cannot use a custom kernel, recovery or ROM in the normal manner. Nor was the ATT model rooted until long after other variants were.
Custom ROMs and recovery need to be emulated with Safestrap on ATT due to the locked bootloader. There is an Developer model that has an unlocked bootloader, but Samsung has a poor record of timely firmware updates for Developer phones making it a questionable tradeoff.
Unless the appeal of a phone subsidy is inescapable for you, you'd do far better to buy the TMobile S5 which has an unlocked bootloader and a thriving Development and custom ROM community. It works just fine on ATT, supports all of the ATT bands + a few that the ATT variant doesn't. Which is an additional advantage for roaming.
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I have AT&T but ill be buying the unlocked version of the S5, not the AT&T version.
Ill be able to unlock the bootloader right?
ozzyGEEK said:
I have AT&T but ill be buying the unlocked version of the S5, not the AT&T version.
Ill be able to unlock the bootloader right?
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Your intent here is unclear and incorporates several assumptions. First, clarify what you intend to buy, then we can characterize it.
There are a dozen S5 variants. Which specific model are you referring to? Or at least narrow it down by telling us which carrier you plan to buy it from? You want to buy which unlocked version? From who?
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fffft said:
Your intent here is unclear and incorporates several assumptions. First, clarify what you intend to buy, then we can characterize it.
There are a dozen S5 variants. Which specific model are you referring to? Or at least narrow it down by telling us which carrier you plan to buy it from? You want to buy which unlocked version? From who?
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Its a factory unlocked brand new S5 at a store.. im not sure exactly what model it is exactly. Im getting it a day after tomorrow on wednesday.
ozzyGEEK said:
Its a factory unlocked brand new S5 at a store.. im not sure exactly what model it is exactly. Im getting it a day after tomorrow on wednesday.
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Details are everything. You should know that not all S5 models will work well on ATT. Different S5 variants use different sets of frequency bands.
Could be great. Could be something else entirely.
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New to Samsung Note Series

Recently I purchased a note 3 off ebay to use tell Im available for an upgrade. I'm not sure what software version is on it cause I haven't gotten it. Just have a few questions.
Is the only way you can root is in 4.4.2 ?
If the phone comes can't I downgrade from 5.0 to 4.4.4 and them to 4.4.2.
Please understand I'm new to Samsung so not sure it all works. Coming from all htc devices like DNA and one max.
Welcvome aboard
thayl0 said:
Recently I purchased a note 3 off ebay to use tell Im available for an upgrade. I'm not sure what software version is on it cause I haven't gotten it. Just have a few questions.
Is the only way you can root is in 4.4.2 ?
If the phone comes can't I downgrade from 5.0 to 4.4.4 and them to 4.4.2.
Please understand I'm new to Samsung so not sure it all works. Coming from all htc devices like DNA and one max.
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no, you can root Lollipop as well.
there are ways to downgrade but you have to be careful...
Look out for threads in General section and work on the method specific to your model (about downgrade)
this is for N900 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/safe-to-downgrade-ll-to-kk-sm-n900-t3016966 :angel:
nijom said:
no, you can root Lollipop as well.
there are ways to downgrade but you have to be careful...
Look out for threads in General section and work on the method specific to your model (about downgrade)
this is for N900 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/safe-to-downgrade-ll-to-kk-sm-n900-t3016966 :angel:
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Thank you for the quick reply is the n900 and n900v the same thing cause !my model coming is the n900v
Do you think I should try to root lollipop before I try to downgrade.
Wouldn't I follow this guide to root and install trwp n custom rom after.
https://youtu.be/eDHSXn5KwAw
thayl0 said:
Thank you for the quick reply is the n900 and n900v the same thing cause !my model coming is the n900v
Do you think I should try to root lollipop before I try to downgrade.
Wouldn't I follow this guide to root and install trwp n custom rom after.
https://youtu.be/eDHSXn5KwAw
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Do not downgrade. Why would you do that?
No it is not the same, flashing other variants roms will brick yours. Or supersu twrp etc.
V is for Verizon
kenny1991 said:
Do not downgrade. Why would you do that?
No it is not the same, flashing other variants roms will brick yours. Or supersu twrp etc.
V is for Verizon
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Could you please link me to an guide on n900V and how to root it on lollipop. Samsung and HTC devices are way different in how to do things and I don't want to screw up. Hopefully you understand.
thayl0 said:
Could you please link me to an guide on n900V and how to root it on lollipop. Samsung and HTC devices are way different in how to do things and I don't want to screw up. Hopefully you understand.
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Verizon version is not rootable, nor does it accept custom recoveries. You better choose another variant, if that is important to you.
jisoo said:
Verizon version is not rootable, nor does it accept custom recoveries. You better choose another variant, if that is important to you.
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Because it has locked bootloader, right?
So there is no way to unlock the bootloader like with Sonys? Like asking for unlock code from Verizon?
kenny1991 said:
Because it has locked bootloader, right?
So there is no way to unlock the bootloader like with Sonys? Like asking for unlock code from Verizon?
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You are correct. Samsung phones all come bootloader unlocked, unless the carriers wants them locked (as was the case with Verizon and AT&T for the Note 4).
The locked versions have almost never successfully been unlocked.
So if you can, stay away from these two variants.
jisoo said:
You are correct. Samsung phones all come bootloader unlocked, unless the carriers wants them locked (as was the case with Verizon and AT&T for the Note 4).
The locked versions have almost never successfully been unlocked.
So if you can, stay away from these two variants.
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Then why are people saying I can root it.... I do know the phone is coming networked unlocked. I find it crazy that if you can't unlock a verizon bootloader that there are roms that support verizon.
So what your telling me is there's no possible way to root even on stock so i can run xposed framework.?
thayl0 said:
Then why are people saying I can root it.... I do know the phone is coming networked unlocked. I find it crazy that if you can't unlock a verizon bootloader that there are roms that support verizon.
So what your telling me is there's no possible way to root even on stock so i can run xposed framework.?
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Some firmware versions have vulnerabilities, which can be exploited to gain root/install safestrap. Some versions allow downgrading to vulnerable versions. But not all.
You should check the Verizon forums for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3.
jisoo said:
Some firmware versions have vulnerabilities, which can be exploited to gain root/install safestrap. Some versions allow downgrading to vulnerable versions. But not all.
You should check the Verizon forums for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3.
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Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
thayl0 said:
Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
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Sorry, I don't know much about the US carriers, so don't know how they interoperate.
thayl0 said:
Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
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No. Verizon uses CDMA and will not allow 3rd party phones on their network. T-Mobile uses GSM and will NOT work on Verizon network. Period. You MUST use a Verizon branded device on Verizon network.
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toastido said:
No. Verizon uses CDMA and will not allow 3rd party phones on their network. T-Mobile uses GSM and will NOT work on Verizon network. Period. You MUST use a Verizon branded device on Verizon network.
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Well, just got the phone in the mail and it seems that it came with 5.0 so I guess I'm outta luck for root. First phone I've ever had that I can't root. I'm sad aha

can you flash custom kernels?

is it possible to flash a custom kernel on the s5 even though it has a locked bootloader? i was looking online and saw that some people were able to do it with other phones but they said it varies on the phone itself and the kernel
Veid71 said:
is it possible to flash a custom kernel on the s5 even though it has a locked bootloader? i was looking online and saw that some people were able to do it with other phones but they said it varies on the phone itself and the kernel
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Nobody with the Verizon s5...
ldeveraux said:
Nobody with the Verizon s5...
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hmmm i know you could flash one that was called blaze or something like that but its for kitkat cuz i flashed it but when it turned on it had the safestrap screen come up and went black when i hit continue
Veid71 said:
hmmm i know you could flash one that was called blaze or something like that but its for kitkat cuz i flashed it but when it turned on it had the safestrap screen come up and went black when i hit continue
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Then why'd you ask if you knew the answer?
ldeveraux said:
Then why'd you ask if you knew the answer?
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because i wanted to know if anyone knew of any others or if anyone was working on some lollipop ones or just anymore in general
Veid71 said:
because i wanted to know if anyone knew of any others or if anyone was working on some lollipop ones or just anymore in general
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No, it won't work on our Verizon/At&T model. It will work with t-mobile and sprint and Verizon Dev edition. Dev had banned the project so everyone is moving on to ktoonsez's kernel, which again worked on everything except for our Verizon 900V model. Bottom line, you can't flash a custom kernel onto a locked bootloader. We have many variation of model S5, make sure you are looking at Verizon (SM-900V) and AT&T (SM-G900A) which have locked bootloader.
buhohitr said:
No, it won't work on our Verizon/At&T model. It will work with t-mobile and sprint and Verizon Dev edition. Dev had banned the project so everyone is moving on to ktoonsez's kernel, which again worked on everything except for our Verizon 900V model. Bottom line, you can't flash a custom kernel onto a locked bootloader. We have many variation of model S5, make sure you are looking at Verizon (SM-900V) and AT&T (SM-G900A) which have locked bootloader.
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hmm okay thanks

Is it possible to root a Galaxy S7 (G930V)?

Hello Everyone!
I have a Verizon Galaxy S7 and I am wanting to root it! But when I tried it did not work so I just put stock rom file back on it. I read online that my boot loader is blocking the root? I did update to 6.0.1 and my version is G930VVRS4APH1
If anyone has achieved root on this device will you please share instructions on how you did it? Thank you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039
Sir_Eagle said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039
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I tried this method, and then my phone got stuck in bootloop. I had to flash stock rom through ODIN.
try these
noman.rasheed said:
I tried this method, and then my phone got stuck in bootloop. I had to flash stock rom through ODIN.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...eres-how-rooted-nougat-s7-edge-g935t-t3567502
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/root-method-nougat-t3566978
first one is full of info ,,, took me a bit to digest everything, remember this has info for both flat and edge, also good links to more up to date info. good luck, enjoy.
kevinchristopherson said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...eres-how-rooted-nougat-s7-edge-g935t-t3567502
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/root-method-nougat-t3566978
first one is full of info ,,, took me a bit to digest everything, remember this has info for both flat and edge, also good links to more up to date info. good luck, enjoy.
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will try them today. Thank you!
CAD512 said:
Hello Everyone!
I have a Verizon Galaxy S7 and I am wanting to root it! But when I tried it did not work so I just put stock rom file back on it. I read online that my boot loader is blocking the root? I did update to 6.0.1 and my version is G930VVRS4APH1
If anyone has achieved root on this device will you please share instructions on how you did it? Thank you
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Yes. and after 2 bricked S7's and a 100 rabbit holes leading me to who knows where, I finally got it.. give me a day or so and ill post the link and how to
The thread Sir_Eagle posted is the correct one for anything root. If something looped, then you either did not meet the prerequisites of the guide or did not follow every step of the guide. The bootloader on this variant requires every image to be signed, this is why the only root we currently have is via a SIGNED AND LEAKED engineer bootloader. Without this, there is no root on this variant. If you DO want to root, follow the link Sir_Eagle provided (but realize it comes with an outdated hacky kernel that has known issues), or go with stock. Up to you
The S7 I should have bought.
Sam Sung said:
The S7 I should have bought.
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That's still a U snapdragon variant (note Snapdragon 820 in specs).. Would be equally unlockable for the bootloader... "UNLOCKED" in retail sense means SIM unlocked, not bootloader unlocked.
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That's still a U snapdragon variant (note Snapdragon 820 in specs).. Would be equally unlockable for the bootloader... "UNLOCKED" in retail sense means SIM unlocked, not bootloader unlocked.
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I stand corrected. How would one obtain a phone (preferably Samsung) with bootloader unlocked?
Sam Sung said:
I stand corrected. How would one obtain a phone (preferably Samsung) with bootloader unlocked?
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Buy the European version of the phone with the Exynos processor instead of the US version with the Qualcomm one. Problem is that phone likely won't work with any of the carriers here in the USA. Or you could move to Europe.
Sam Sung said:
I stand corrected. How would one obtain a phone (preferably Samsung) with bootloader unlocked?
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Snapdragon variants aren't unlockable (exception being one hardware different model than ours). You can get an international samsung chipset variant with unlocked bootloader but not a US snapdragon one.
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Snapdragon variants aren't unlockable (exception being one hardware different model than ours). You can get an international samsung chipset variant with unlocked bootloader but not a US snapdragon one.
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Thanks. I don't have to worry about that for a while, since I just upgraded. I don't like the idea of no root, but it is what it is. Guess I'll check the device recommendation threads next time.
A few other questions that occur (in case I add more devices to my account or pick up an additional service):
1. Aside from an international there a (quality) phone/brand that will allow rooting in the U.S.?
2. What caveats can be expected when using an international device (presumably, I can get one compatible with whatever carrier I choose)
I guess it's conceivable that I could buy one of these 'rootable' phones and either add it to my Verizon acct or replace one of my current lines.
I miss root, particularly the ability to create nandroids and Titanium backups. Oh, and accessing the entire file system.
Sam Sung said:
A few other questions that occur (in case I add more devices to my account or pick up an additional service):
1. Aside from an international there a (quality) phone/brand that will allow rooting in the U.S.?
2. What caveats can be expected when using an international device (presumably, I can get one compatible with whatever carrier I choose)
I guess it's conceivable that I could buy one of these 'rootable' phones and either add it to my Verizon acct or replace one of my current lines.
I miss root, particularly the ability to create nandroids and Titanium backups. Oh, and accessing the entire file system.
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I really hope that you just didn't do it right cause I just got a G930V and if I can't root it will be immediately RETURNED
No root is an absolute DEAL BREAKER.
I see rooting threads so I hope it works.

AT&T Version

Will we get rom and root love ❤ or will we not?
And any info on the bootloader if unlocked or not?
AngelRyu said:
Will we get rom and root love ❤ or will we not?
And any info on the bootloader if unlocked or not?
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When is the last time you saw an unlocked BL on any AT&T device let alone an LG?
Honestly kind of a moot question at this point although Id love to be wrong on this
Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
force70 said:
When is the last time you saw an unlocked BL on any AT&T device let alone an LG?
Honestly kind of a moot question at this point.
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Idk because I'm new to at& t hint why I'm asking. Are you for real lol att sucks..
AngelRyu said:
Will we get rom and root love ❤ or will we not?
And any info on the bootloader if unlocked or not?
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If you want to unlock you need to get a T-Mobile LG as their usually always unlockable.
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LG v20 is unlocked and rooted. Haven't really followed anything else to give more information.
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is it in the stores yet to play with?
Good luck with AT&T unlocking their bootloaders. We had AT&T up until recently and it was always a pipe dream to get an unlocked bootloader. Buy an unlocked model or get the TMobile version.

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