Hello
I always prefer native support than third party software if it is possible. Unfortunately on our Moto X function SIP/VOIP is blocked, so for VOIP calls we must install better or worse third party software. I discovered that the solution is very simple. All we need is to modify one xml file. Of course this solution is only for rooted phones and I test it only on my Moto X (XT1052) with stock KitKat 4.4.2, however I think that should works on any variant of Moto X.
Well...short guide
- In your root file manager browse to /system/etc/permission
- open to edit file android.software.sip.xml and search for:
Code:
<permissions>
<feature name="android.software.sip" />
</permissions>
- then add additional line and finally you should have:
Code:
<permissions>
<feature name="android.software.sip" />
<feature name="android.software.sip.voip" />
</permissions>
That's it. Save file and reboot.
After reboot you should see additional option in dialer settings
Are you saying this enables built-in VoIP calling without the aid of third party apps/software?
titetanium said:
Are you saying this enables built-in VoIP calling without the aid of third party apps/software?
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Yes, exactly.
testuser0072 said:
Hello
I always prefer native support than third party software if it is possible. Unfortunately on our Moto X function SIP/VOIP is blocked, so for VOIP calls we must install better or worse third party software. I discovered that the solution is very simple. All we need is to modify one xml file. Of course this solution is only for rooted phones and I test it only on my Moto X (XT1052) with stock KitKat 4.4.2, however I think that should works on any variant of Moto X.
Well...short guide
- In your root file manager browse to /system/etc/permission
- open to edit file android.software.sip.xml and search for:
Code:
<permissions>
<feature name="android.software.sip" />
</permissions>
- then add additional line and finally you should have:
Code:
<permissions>
<feature name="android.software.sip" />
<feature name="android.software.sip.voip" />
</permissions>
That's it. Save file and reboot.
After reboot you should see additional option in dialer settings
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NICE FIND, bud.
Great work!!! :good:
Trying it on my XT1060
It's a known modification but unfortunately not enough. SIP is really enabled but it is pretty useless due to the annoying voice distortion on the other side of communication. It appears as high-frequency harmonic distortion and disfigures your voice beyond every acceptable level. I've put a lot of effort to resolve the problem but so far without any significant success. The main question is why dedicated sip applications can operate more or less without distortion and native sip can't. The best guess is that native sip (voip) is not managed as telephony function but rather as one of special audio functions. Therefore it lacks acoustic echo cancellation functionality. Or other possibility might be that pretty high latency of native voip is responsible that echo cancellation simply can't "grab". I tried to replace or repair files responsible for voip and general audio, even drivers but without any luck. It must be that the whole problem is somehow connected to radio and baseband management. Hence it would be very interesting to know if voip distortion appears only in MOTOX or in other phones as well. I assume that it is a Google issue but you never totally know before you try it. It may be connected to Motorola baseband configuration solely.
By the way, I was really exited when I read that one of malfunctions supposed to be repaired among hundreds others in Google 4.4.3 release would be internet telephony (voip). Now I'm on stock 4.4.4 and no progress regarding sip was made....
piskr said:
It's a known modification but unfortunately not enough. SIP is really enabled but it is pretty useless due to the annoying voice distortion on the other side of communication. It appears as high-frequency harmonic distortion and disfigures your voice beyond every acceptable level. I've put a lot of effort to resolve the problem but so far without any significant success. The main question is why dedicated sip applications can operate more or less without distortion and native sip can't. The best guess is that native sip (voip) is not managed as telephony function but rather as one of special audio functions. Therefore it lacks acoustic echo cancellation functionality. Or other possibility might be that pretty high latency of native voip is responsible that echo cancellation simply can't "grab". I tried to replace or repair files responsible for voip and general audio, even drivers but without any luck. It must be that the whole problem is somehow connected to radio and baseband management. Hence it would be very interesting to know if voip distortion appears only in MOTOX or in other phones as well. I assume that it is a Google issue but you never totally know before you try it. It may be connected to Motorola baseband configuration solely.
By the way, I was really exited when I read that one of malfunctions supposed to be repaired among hundreds others in Google 4.4.3 release would be internet telephony (voip). Now I'm on stock 4.4.4 and no progress regarding sip was made....
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Well...what can I say...I am not a VOIP expert, but I tested built-in VOIP for a some short calls (2 different SIP/VOIP accounts) and seems to be OK. Distortion level is minimal and for me acceptable and really don't know if it is not dependent from SIP/VOIP operator, because I had similar results on Cyanogen roms, where overall VOIP working or I always thought that working
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Well...what can I say...I am not a VOIP expert, but I tested built-in VOIP for a some short calls (2 different SIP/VOIP accounts) and seems to be OK. Distortion level is minimal and for me acceptable and really don't know if it is not dependent from SIP/VOIP operator, because I had similar results on Cyanogen roms, where overall VOIP working or I always thought that working
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That's really interesting. Distortion should appear on the other side. No one complained about robotic hardly understood voice when you called?
I tested voip with CM too and the results were the same or even worst (no audio at all). But then, I thought that radio and baseband was not replaced during CM installation and that's why voip wasn't improved.
Anyway, believing that voip operator is responsible for audio distortion is an easy solution but the facts are against it. Using dedicated sip applications removes distortion completely. Besides my operator uses standard codecs G711 alaw and ulaw which are also integrated into the system. And I could use native voip on my previous phone with JB quite normally (besides greater latency which was caused by a weak processor).
Really hard to understand where is the reason that I can't use native sip normally.
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That's really interesting. Distortion should appear on the other side. No one complained about robotic hardly understood voice when you called?
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Of course other side complain sometimes, but overall they understood my voice, which is indeed slightly robotic.
piskr said:
I tested voip with CM too and the results were the same or even worst (no audio at all). But then, I thought that radio and baseband was not replaced during CM installation and that's why voip wasn't improved.[...].
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I mean other than Moto X phones (Some HTC and Huawei) with CM, where VoIP works OK. So far I didn't install CM on my Moto X, so I can't say nothing about results.
piskr said:
Really hard to understand where is the reason that I can't use native sip normally
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However I use VoIP from time to time, but I agreed, what is a real reason that we can't use native sip normally ?
piskr said:
That's really interesting. Distortion should appear on the other side. No one complained about robotic hardly understood voice when you called?
I tested voip with CM too and the results were the same or even worst (no audio at all). But then, I thought that radio and baseband was not replaced during CM installation and that's why voip wasn't improved.
Anyway, believing that voip operator is responsible for audio distortion is an easy solution but the facts are against it. Using dedicated sip applications removes distortion completely. Besides my operator uses standard codecs G711 alaw and ulaw which are also integrated into the system. And I could use native voip on my previous phone with JB quite normally (besides greater latency which was caused by a weak processor).
Really hard to understand where is the reason that I can't use native sip normally.
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Same experience here, the receiving end could not understand me. Using pbx in a flash and Vitelity trunks.
piskr said:
voip distortion appears only in MOTOX or in other phones as well.
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I've tried VOIP at work on many different phones, native. All have bugs to distortion, echo, delay, fail to wake, fail to roam. Disappointing.
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Is there any way to record the phone conversation on TP2?
Yes it's easy.
You can use the free cab file ACR (Automatic Call Recorder) available from these forums or the shareware Resco Voice Recorder. Both will record calls automatically but ACR has the advantage of giving you the choice after the call of keeping the recording or not. I also had to install mskip's 2 way recording Cab to enable my TP2 to record both sides of the conversation as it wasn't picking up the other party's voice, only the feedback through the microphone. It seems that some devices need this to be enabled. There are 2 versions of this Cab. One is the "plus" version that additionally inserts the option to record on the Call screen. These are also available in these forums.
ACR Cab download
Just found the post for the ACR Cab. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536472
Thanks for the link buddy
ACR works flawlesly bothway on TP 2 (Unbranded TP2)
I can recommend VITO Audio Notes that worked flawlessly on HP 614c and now on TP2.
I also enjoy ACR but find a couple problems. It doesn't record every one of my calls for some reason, but I haven't paid attention enough to see if other things were going on with the phone to prevent a true recording.
Two other observations...
1. I have a ton of junk phone calls and voicemail checks that I need to go through and delete the recordings of.
2. Does anyone else feel a bit creepy going through your old phonecalls?
rorytmeadows said:
I also enjoy ACR but find a couple problems. It doesn't record every one of my calls for some reason, but I haven't paid attention enough to see if other things were going on with the phone to prevent a true recording.
Two other observations...
1. I have a ton of junk phone calls and voicemail checks that I need to go through and delete the recordings of.
2. Does anyone else feel a bit creepy going through your old phonecalls?
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first of all go to options, and there you have to click on something that will require you to ask you "You want to save this call" after each call. There is a little pop UP....it's a very important file, if are required to keep up with phone call recording eg your girlfriend. I had the ACR, but now, I am using the build-in incall recorder. This doesn't auto record the calls, but give you an option if you want to record it, you have to each time start the recording by a little key build up in your menu, when you in call. so ACR is auto call, with an option to ask you each time if you want to save the call, and incall not auto.
loaferkan said:
first of all go to options, and there you have to click on something that will require you to ask you "You want to save this call" after each call. There is a little pop UP....it's a very important file, if are required to keep up with phone call recording eg your girlfriend. I had the ACR, but now, I am using the build-in incall recorder. This doesn't auto record the calls, but give you an option if you want to record it, you have to each time start the recording by a little key build up in your menu, when you in call. so ACR is auto call, with an option to ask you each time if you want to save the call, and incall not auto.
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Thanks. I didn't want to make it seem like it was a problem that I had all those junk calls. It's completely understandable. I guess I was just pointing it out because people might not realize how many worthless phone calls they make!
ksmm said:
I can recommend VITO Audio Notes that worked flawlessly on HP 614c and now on TP2.
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I concur. Listen this software saved my life twice. Once for a lie my bank tried to cover up and another for a car dealership lie.
People lie consistently... you need to protect yourself in this day and age.
I say video and audio record EVERYTHING.
all this crap about rights... what about our rights?
Please. I could care less about the debate... like ksm said.... Vito audio notes is an awesome piece of software. Now they just need to have it be a answering machine and it will be top notch.
Remember you read it here first.
Single press record
loaferkan said:
first of all go to options, and there you have to click on something that will require you to ask you "You want to save this call" after each call. There is a little pop UP....it's a very important file, if are required to keep up with phone call recording eg your girlfriend. I had the ACR, but now, I am using the build-in incall recorder. This doesn't auto record the calls, but give you an option if you want to record it, you have to each time start the recording by a little key build up in your menu, when you in call. so ACR is auto call, with an option to ask you each time if you want to save the call, and incall not auto.
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Would anyone have an idea of how to map Rhodium Keyboard Controller to initiate the recording of a call rather than having to go through menus while on the call? I had this with Resco on my old Palm - but the current resco doesn't seem to have this ability unless perhaps there is some ARGUMENT that could be coded with the executable file to begin recording.
Like the other person - I was using ACR and loved the choice to save after every call - but the inability to sort through these calls quickly and play them was a problem and when multiple calls would come in - or conference calls - it seemed to loose track of which one it was recording.
Anyone found a solution?
Call Recording
Want to record phone calls right? You can use Auto Call Recorder by Slothie.
You can get it here.
http://tilt2.blownfuze.org/#fun
Hi there,
my dad sold his iPhone 3GS for a Samsung Galaxy S i9000. Coming from an iPhone, I first had to show him the amazing richness of possibilities you have on Android compared to an iPhone and after he overcame his old knowledge of "one button, one app", he was quite pleased with some of Androids merits. However, all in all, he's missing some important features he used to have on his iPhone and he has some problems:
A) Most important of all, pretty much a deal breaker if he can't get it fixed soon: SIP. We tried several different clients, and for example we even tried the latest (non-market) version of csipsimple and we found bug reports for the Galaxy S and adjusted the mic/speaker volumes accordingly but it's still really bad: For local calls the quality is reasonable. It's a bit stuttery at times but people can talk. It's much worse than on his iPhone though. But what's really annoying him is the fact that calls to foreign countries are a no-go. The added quality drop to long distance calls make it very hard for the other party to hear him (All over wifi btw). Please, does anyone know a sure-fix, exact-settings-listing for some SIP app for Android?
B) Also a very important thing to him is a calendar. But both the Samsung calendar as well as the original Android one don't have a good week-view. The original one doesn't have one, the Samsung one doesn't show titles on tasks. I find it ludicrous, it's just boxes without titles... Ideally, he wishes to have a week view similar to what I have on my N900:
Sorry, can't embed the image because I'm a new user:
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There's more but especially the SIP is really bugging him. He absolutely needs it to work reliably or he'll need to sell the device.
Thanks.
TB2 said:
Hi there,
B) Also a very important thing to him is a calendar. But both the Samsung calendar as well as the original Android one don't have a good week-view.
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Agreed. Try Calendar Pad from the market in week view
What exactly is SIP? According to wiki, it's just a voice over internet protocol. Can you not use skype?
my wifi signal on 2.1 and 2.2 are the same. cellphones are not the same as laptop that has higher power to transmit data far away and and large space for antennas for receiving signal. if you look at wifi routers they got huge antennas. i don't think you can fit that in a phone.
i read a few months ago that iphone has problems on signal bcause of bad design : )
if you want software you've got a lot of choices in the market.
Try Sipdroid.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sipdroid-voip-video-calling/org.sipdroid.sipua
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9283203
Um... Poor daddy? Sorry cheeky I know but sgs is for people who like to tinker and find cool mods even simple apps like the plethora of gre calendar apps he could use right now. Seasoned iphone users especially of the older generation often don't get, the nerdy thrill that we do with the customisations and work necessary to fully realise the potential of sgs and andriod in general
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TB2 said:
Hi there,
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A) Most important of all, pretty much a deal breaker if he can't get it fixed soon: SIP. We tried several different clients, and for example we even tried the latest (non-market) version of csipsimple and we found bug reports for the Galaxy S and adjusted the mic/speaker volumes accordingly but it's still really bad: For local calls the quality is reasonable. It's a bit stuttery at times but people can talk. It's much worse than on his iPhone though. But what's really annoying him is the fact that calls to foreign countries are a no-go. The added quality drop to long distance calls make it very hard for the other party to hear him (All over wifi btw). Please, does anyone know a sure-fix, exact-settings-listing for some SIP app for Android?
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Thanks.
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I use Sipdroid and VYKE as SIP provider. No echo, no cutting and only 30 seconds to set up. Can use WiFi or 3G. I do not use any PBXes.
the latest custom ROMs are really showing Pro
and performances are very quick
I'll recomend installing the DOC's ROM for SGS and use SipDroid for the voice chat
there are tons of Calendar options in the market, just take your time to review which one you like best
TB2 said:
Hi there,
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B) Also a very important thing to him is a calendar. But both the Samsung calendar as well as the original Android one don't have a good week-view. The original one doesn't have one, the Samsung one doesn't show titles on tasks. I find it ludicrous, it's just boxes without titles...
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Thanks.
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Try Egg 'n stone CalWidget. You can customice as You like. Size the Widget 4x1, 4x2, 4x3, 4x4......, choose a calander to view (MyCalendar, Google Calender.....), how long time ahead, layout and colors as You like, transparancy, and it's free.
I guess if Your father is a former iPhone user, he does not know how a widget work, try to explain to him.
Allright thanks everyone for the suggestions!
Dad's pleased with CalendarPad. Nice overview and the widget does a good job as well.
We installed sipdroid today and for local calls it seems to work well. Will check soon if we have the same problems as with csipsimple regarding long distance calls.
By the way... What is it with the "want an iphone, get an iphone" attitude in this forum. I clearly mentioned that he likes some of Android's merits and I asked two specific questions which I think I can expect from any modern smartphone, not just the iphone (working SIP and flexible calendar), the second of which btw is a downside of the iPhone because of all the sandboxing going on on an iphone. Anyway, you seem to be pretty quick on the "it's an iphone-loser" button.
Anyway, I've got a third and fourth question:
C) Is it normal that the battery lasts about 1.5 days with no IM or SIP services running? Only a calendar and the shipped-with weather widget. Is there some hack to improve battery life beyond just turning all the features off?
D) He's having serious stability issues at times. It happens that the device freezes when plugging it into USB or at different random times. At those times, the button lights would stay on with the screen being black. Long-pressing the power button fixes it. At different times it's a bit jerky. For example you would unlock the screen (gesture code) but then the screen would remain black for a few seconds and maybe the lock screen would show up again. Is this normal on android in general or has it to do with what Samsung pushed into its distro? Btw his mobile is branded by Orange and ships with some additional crap. Could this cause the problem? What's the easiest way of getting a fresh and simple Samsung or pure Android distro on it? I see there are lots of "mods", but I think we don't need any sort of mod, just a plain and stable OS.
Thanks.
To improve battery life, try turning off "Wireless location" in settings. However the battery life, even with various optimizations, is nowhere as good as iPhone 4.
The delays and stuttering you are experiencing is probably due to file system lag. Samsung uses RFS which is their own version of file system based on FAT32. Unfortunately that causes the phone to lag from time to time, usually when opening new applications or performing multiple I/O tasks. This can be fixed by installing one of the many lag fixes available. I use "One click lag fix" which you can download from the Market, but you will need to root the phone to apply it. There are several other alternatives which you can find in the "Development" forum.
Jamm59 said:
Try Egg 'n stone CalWidget. You can customice as You like. Size the Widget 4x1, 4x2, 4x3, 4x4......, choose a calander to view (MyCalendar, Google Calender.....), how long time ahead, layout and colors as You like, transparancy, and it's free.
I guess if Your father is a former iPhone user, he does not know how a widget work, try to explain to him.
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What exactly is google calendar, cant find it in the market. It would be great to have a calendar sync with my google account like my contacts as I've missed a couple of appointments when switching to a new phone and having no backup on calendar...
TB2 said:
Allright thanks everyone for the suggestions!
By the way... What is it with the "want an iphone, get an iphone" attitude in this forum.
C) Is it normal that the battery lasts about 1.5 days with no IM or SIP services running? Only a calendar and the shipped-with weather widget. Is there some hack to improve battery life beyond just turning all the features off?
D) He's having serious stability issues at times.
Thanks.
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Hi, glad CalenderPad worked out for your dad.
At times, android lovers seem to suffer from the Calimero effect
Your battery life could be a bit better, but not much. 1,5 days is considered normal, most of us have the goal to get through a full working day (and tinkering evening...) with one charge.
The stability issues are 90% Samsungs fault, because they did a less than perfect job on the software. HTC does a better job out of the box software wise. Indeed, a lagfix will most probably cure the symptoms, i have good experience with the Voodoo Lagfix. Instructions are easy, and can be found at project-voodoo.org.
To get rid of the Orange branding, you could flash an unbranded stock Samsung Rom from samfirmware.com (Link, you need to create an account for the link to work). The first time i flashed a ROM, it was nerving. But as long as you know how to get into recovery mode (and checked that Recovery Mode is available!) you should be fine. Just remember to disable/revert any lagfixes before flashing another ROM or Kernel to be safe.
This is a file from a viperaudio sound mod, and I'm having issues with calls (people on the other line hear an echo).
I already asked in the thread, and contacted the dev, but I didn't get any answer.
There's a way to solve this issue by deleting the file, but it harms the audio quality.
That's why I'm wondering if there is any way to edit this file?
Check second post
Actually, I've made some new discoveries about this issue.
The libaudcal.so file is present on our devices in vendor/lib.
If this file is deleted, then it has the same effect as copying it from another device (installing the one from the old viper sound mod).
That means - incredible huge bass on speakers, but issue in calls, the other person on the call hears an echo, and the in call volume is stuck at a constant low value.
Now, what's interesting is that this issue is NOT present when making calls via viber, facebook messenger etc. apps.
I've tried downloading different dialers, and using different rom versions, but no difference.
It seems to me that there are filters included in this file to purposely cutoff low frequencies, and that calls are broken when the original file isn't used.
I hate to give up, so please if anyone has ideas on how this could be resolved, I'd appreciate it.
Arcide said:
Actually, I've made some new discoveries about this issue.
The libaudcal.so file is present on our devices in vendor/lib.
If this file is deleted, then it has the same effect as copying it from another device (installing the one from the old viper sound mod).
That means - incredible huge bass on speakers, but issue in calls, the other person on the call hears an echo, and the in call volume is stuck at a constant low value.
Now, what's interesting is that this issue is NOT present when making calls via viber, facebook messenger etc. apps.
I've tried downloading different dialers, and using different rom versions, but no difference.
It seems to me that there are filters included in this file to purposely cutoff low frequencies, and that calls are broken when the original file isn't used.
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Bro the same problem now i have and i am trying to resolve this but i dont find how to modify this so file, did you know now how to increase in call volume and microphone record in video to
Wenzel6 said:
Bro the same problem now i have and i am trying to resolve this but i dont find how to modify this so file, did you know now how to increase in call volume and microphone record in video to
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No brother, this is really old and I've never found a solution. I don't think there's a way to edit that library
Arcide said:
No brother, this is really old and I've never found a solution. I don't think there's a way to edit that library
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Only the guy that made this knows
Arcide said:
No brother, this is really old and I've never found a solution. I don't think there's a way to edit that library
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Maybe you know how to increase output sound to audiotrack in android 7.1.2 without that file ?
I'm a new Moto user, coming from using Samsung phones exclusively. I was checking my list of things I'm missing from using my rooted Samsung phones that I've come to really depend on and what I can live without using my new MXPE. I'm really liking this phone so far but I do miss having native call recording on my Note 5 (which I sold). I'd rather not have to use a separate app for this, having it inside my phone's dialer like I had on my Note 5 was brilliant and extremely useful.
I'm unlocked, rooted and Xposed with GravityBox.
Is there an Xposed module that would work on this phone? Thanks for any assistance with this.
I use Drupe for a dialer replacement. Includes call blocking (missing on MXPE) call recording and quite a bit more.
Call Recorder by skvalex, along with AlsaMixer (ROOT) is what you'll want for a more seamless experience. Drupe is nice, but is a bit clunky for what you're looking to do. If you utilize AICP's Android N release, 11/28 is the most stable at the moment, you can get Call Blocking within it's Dialer. You do not need an xPosed module. Call Recorder will pop up a record bubble button you can move anywhere on your screen, and even set to only show during a call or auto-record, with cloud backup as well. It's a pretty nice setup if you need call recording.
I'll take a look at these options, thank you.
This will be a short and simple thread. I have a Fire HD 8 and HD 7, with the 7 being rooted. In my opinion, they lack a few notches in the volume control. I have found it incredibly difficult to find an app or Xposed module that would actually boost the volume of the Fire tablets, with or without root...until today.
On my rooted HD 7, I have Xposed installed along with the Gravity Box module, which has a volume boosting option, however it doesn't work. I've tried many apps on both devices, to no avail. However I had recalled an app I used on my phone before I rooted it, and just remembered it today.
Introducing 'Volume Booster by GOODEV'. It's simple, easy and takes up virtually no space at all (less than 1MB). I just installed it so I can't speak for battery consumption as of yet. There are only a few settings, all of which are pretty self explained. It also forces a notification to remain in the statusbar so the system doesn't shut it down. This option can also be disabled or set to appear in the statusbar only when active. You can increase the volume as much as 40% above the maximum level. The app is 100% free, but does contain ads (images below have ads cropped out).
I've found it to echo a bit on the HD 7, but works perfectly on the HD 8 once you calibrate it. Setting it to above 8% will cause a bit of static for some sounds.
**Warning**: I am NOT responsible for any damage done to your device or your hearing. Use at your OWN risk. Please be very careful using this app. It can potentially cause hearing damage when using headphones, or even permanently damage your speakers. I recommend a setting no higher than 7 or 8% above maximum, but please test it at lower levels until you're satisfied.
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...On my rooted HD 7, I have Xposed installed along with the Gravity Box module, which has a volume boosting option, however it doesn't work. I've tried many apps on both devices, to no avail. However I had recalled an app I used on my phone before I rooted it, and just remembered it today.
Introducing 'Volume Booster by GOODEV'. It's simple, easy and takes up virtually no space at all (less than 1MB)....
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This is a nice option for those seeking to boost (amplify) the output volume of their device. Gravity Box, Volume Steps and similar Xposed modules simply increase the granularity of volume steps without increasing maximum output levels.
Another option is to flash a different audio package such as Dolby ATM or Viper4 which both refine and amplify output. This works wonderfully on HDX devices that arguably have the best audio capabilities of any Amazon tablet. However, such embellishments come with some risks including bootloops if not compatible with the underlying hardware/firmware. I would only suggest tinkering with such options with older bootloaders that support custom recoveries.
Which brings the discussion back to Volume Booster which works on any ROM rooted or not. Nice find, @DragonFire1024
Davey126 said:
This is a nice option for those seeking to boost (amplify) the output volume of their device. Gravity Box, Volume Steps and similar Xposed modules simply increase the granularity of volume steps without increasing maximum output levels.
Another option is to flash a different audio package such as Dolby ATM or Viper4 which both refine and amplify output. This works wonderfully on HDX devices that arguably have the best audio capabilities of any Amazon tablet. However, such embellishments come with some risks including bootloops if not compatible with the underlying hardware/firmware. I would only suggest tinkering with such options with older bootloaders that support custom recoveries.
Which brings the discussion back to Volume Booster which works on any ROM rooted or not. Nice find, @DragonFire1024
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Thanks this had come across my recommendations and had looked at my library on the Play Store and there it was. I was quite surprised it worked on my HD 8. It's probably the simplest of the ones I've tried over the times. Sometimes when we search for things like this, we often forget that sometimes the simplest of applications work better than the ones we really want and can't use.
I would love to use Viper. It's an amazing tool that has pretty much any feature you can imagine. I used Viper4Android on my XT907 for a time, but as that device is passing it's prime, my Bluetooth would just cease to function after a few uses. It really made all the difference in sound quality. I would love to be able to use it again.
Lol Dragonfire, came to see what you had found here. Same one I've been using for months lol. It is the only one I've found that actually works too. I made a thread one time about the fire tablet 7 5th gen sound being bad. Low and "tinny" sounding. That is a great volume booster but I don't set the boost past 20%. Boost the volume great but for me, I also have to use Equalizer FX to put a bass tone in the voices when I use ear buds. My Google Play review requested to add a basic equalizer to the volume booster guy just to throw that out there so I do not use two apps, which sucks, but I doubt he will. Also, I see no ads in this app, but I do use Adguard.
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Lol Dragonfire, came to see what you had found here. Same one I've been using for months lol. It is the only one I've found that actually works too. I made a thread one time about the fire tablet 7 5th gen sound being bad. Low and "tinny" sounding. That is a great volume booster but I don't set the boost past 20%. Boost the volume great but for me, I also have to use Equalizer FX to put a bass tone in the voices when I use ear buds. My Google Play review requested to add a basic equalizer to the volume booster guy just to throw that out there so I do not use two apps, which sucks, but I doubt he will. Also, I see no ads in this app, but I do use Adguard.
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Adguard is nice and that's probably why you don't see them. If you made that thread in the past several months, I seem to recall it and was looking for it prior to making this thread. I will have to agree there are more times than not when the HD 7 does sound lower than it should be. It really is a shame the Gravity Box booster doesn't work on it though. Now the only thing I use GB for is to fix the recent apps button (the square button) which has a hissy fit when you 'uninstall' Fire Launcher, even on rooted tablets.
TESTS: So Far, after watching a few shows using VLC Player, I have NOT noticed any significant difference in battery consumption which is actually a big plus. In regards to the echoing on the HD 7, Just adjust the setting to not go above 8-10% of maximum. That stops the echoing for pretty much all sounds (I noticed the most echoing when locking or unlocking the screen). I am going to take a gamble and say the speaker system is different in the devices, when comparing it to the HD 8. Whereas you get a slight echo on the HD 7 if turned up past 8-10% (depending on your setup [I think I will try yours with a bass boost Captain]), you get a second or less of static on louder sounds on the HD 8, but not with all sounds. When receiving calls with Hangouts, the sound seems perfect when a bit past 10, but when you get a message using Google Voice, there is a bit of static with that sound.
DragonFire1024 said:
Sometimes when we search for things like this, we often forget that sometimes the simplest of applications work better than the ones we really want and can't use.
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Oh boy - ain't that the truth!
DragonFire1024 said:
I would love to use Viper. It's an amazing tool that has pretty much any feature you can imagine. I used Viper4Android on my XT907 for a time, but as that device is passing it's prime, my Bluetooth would just cease to function after a few uses. It really made all the difference in sound quality. I would love to be able to use it again.
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You can try installing via FlashFire recognizing a bootloop or other failure will will require a reload of FireOS 5.3.1, reroot (and KingRoot battle) followed by restoring a recent backup via FlashFire. Obviously network isolation is a must while on FireOS as any OTA update will yield an unrootable device.
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.. It really is a shame the Gravity Box booster doesn't work on it though. Now the only thing I use GB for is to fix the recent apps button (the square button) which has a hissy fit when you 'uninstall' Fire Launcher, even on rooted tablets.
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GravityBox is *NOT* a volume booster! It is working as designed to increase the granularity of various audio output controls which I find very beneficial. One can not fault an app/module for something it was not designed to do. As for non-audio features/tweaks there is much to like about GravityBox. It just might take you awhile to find and appreciate them. Some other modules worth exploring: AppOpsXposed (if on Nexus), InstallerOpt and Xposed Edge. The latter is like GravityBox on steroids but has a fairly steep learning curve for more advanced functionality. Enjoy!
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Oh boy - ain't that the truth!
You can try installing via FlashFire recognizing a bootloop or other failure will will require a reload of FireOS 5.3.1, reroot (and KingRoot battle) followed by restoring a recent backup via FlashFire. Obviously network isolation is a must while on FireOS as any OTA update will yield an unrootable device.
GravityBox is *NOT* a volume booster! It is working as designed to increase the granularity of various audio output controls which I find very beneficial. One can not fault an app/module for something it was not designed to do. As for non-audio features/tweaks there is much to like about GravityBox. It just might take you awhile to find and appreciate them. Some other modules worth exploring: AppOpsXposed (if on Nexus), InstallerOpt and Xposed Edge. The latter is like GravityBox on steroids but has a fairly steep learning curve for more advanced functionality. Enjoy!
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Edge is pretty nice. I use it on my XT907. I managed to install ApOpps on my fire 7. When I say install I mean actually install. I used the APK my XT907 used. I added a few permissions and it worked perfectly. I know GB isn't a volume booster, but it does has the tweaks to add volume levels/notches, but the HD 7 refuses to acknowledge it. TBH I don't know why. GB is still awesome. And I still recommend it.
I just might try to flash Viper. I'm still debating if I want to flash Nexus or not. I get nervous with doing these type of things as I'm very inexperienced at doing so. Most of my work on my devices has been scripts or other modifications that are less of a risk.
EDIT: I added the ACCESS_SUPERUSER permission to AppOpps APK which is what I think did the trick at getting it to a fully operational state. TBH though, I don't know. Again as with some of the experiments I've done, I wasn't expecting to work at all.
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Adguard is nice and that's probably why you don't see them. If you made that thread in the past several months, I seem to recall it and was looking for it prior to making this thread. I will have to agree there are more times than not when the HD 7 does sound lower than it should be. It really is a shame the Gravity Box booster doesn't work on it though. Now the only thing I use GB for is to fix the recent apps button (the square button) which has a hissy fit when you 'uninstall' Fire Launcher, even on rooted tablets.
TESTS: So Far, after watching a few shows using VLC Player, I have NOT noticed any significant difference in battery consumption which is actually a big plus. In regards to the echoing on the HD 7, Just adjust the setting to not go above 8-10% of maximum. That stops the echoing for pretty much all sounds (I noticed the most echoing when locking or unlocking the screen). I am going to take a gamble and say the speaker system is different in the devices, when comparing it to the HD 8. Whereas you get a slight echo on the HD 7 if turned up past 8-10% (depending on your setup [I think I will try yours with a bass boost Captain]), you get a second or less of static on louder sounds on the HD 8, but not with all sounds. When receiving calls with Hangouts, the sound seems perfect when a bit past 10, but when you get a message using Google Voice, there is a bit of static with that sound.
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I though gravity box was for rooted devices with exposed framework?
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I though gravity box was for rooted devices with exposed framework?
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Correct. The HD 7 I now have is rooted and has Xposed.
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Correct. The HD 7 I now have is rooted and has Xposed.
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I have an original Amazon Fire 7 from 2015 with the 5.0.x BL on it. I'm going to have to give Xposed a go on this device as I'm now running the Lineage ROM with security backports from @ggow and it is pretty awesome. I have always thought the volume on the device was a little low even at its max so this might just do the trick.
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I have an original Amazon Fire 7 from 2015 with the 5.0.x BL on it. I'm going to have to give Xposed a go on this device as I'm now running the Lineage ROM with security backports from @ggow and it is pretty awesome. I have always thought the volume on the device was a little low even at its max so this might just do the trick.
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The volume booster option on GB doesn't seem to work, or at least the tablet refuses to acknowledge the setting. If you can get it to work, please let us know
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The volume booster option on GB doesn't seem to work, or at least the tablet refuses to acknowledge the setting. If you can get it to work, please let us know
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Please stop disseminating this misinformation. GravityBox does not have a "volume booster" setting. You have mischaracterised it as such despite no internal documentation suggesting this capability. What it does feature is a setting that enables additional increments within the existing volume range. That works just fine for media playback. There are other Xposed modules that can add granularity to other system sounds such as ringer and notifications
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Please stop disseminating this misinformation. GravityBox does not have a "volume booster" setting. You have mischaracterised it as such despite no internal documentation suggesting this capability. What it does feature is a setting that enables additional increments within the existing volume range. That works just fine for media playback. There are other Xposed modules that can add granularity to other system sounds such as ringer and notifications
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My mistake. You are correct and without looking at the app, that's what I was trying to get at, without sounding stupid. Clearly I should have looked at it again and my apologies for not doing so. I wasn't trying misinform anyone. That being said, I never tried it on media playback on the HD 7, but I have in my phone and yes I do recall it works in media playback and used it for playing my music via Bluetooth at work. So again I do apologize for coming off like that.
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My mistake. You are correct and without looking at the app, that's what I was trying to get at, without sounding stupid. Clearly I should have looked at it again and my apologies for not doing so. I wasn't trying misinform anyone. That being said, I never tried it on media playback on the HD 7, but I have in my phone and yes I do recall it works in media playback and used it for playing my music via Bluetooth at work. So again I do apologize for coming off like that.
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All good - thanks for following up. Enjoy the balance of your day.
[BTW - VolumeSteps+ is one module that offers similar flexibility with other system sounds (ringer, notifications, etc). As I recall there are seven (!) unique sound categories in Android, although not all devices support all output types. One downside to increasing granularity is the time it takes going from min to max volume via physical button as the system still pauses momentarily at each level when long pressing.]
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All good - thanks for following up. Enjoy the balance of your day.
[BTW - VolumeSteps+ is one module that offers similar flexibility with other system sounds (ringer, notifications, etc). As I recall there are seven (!) unique sound categories in Android, although not all devices support all output types. One downside to increasing granularity is the time it takes going from min to max volume via physical button as the system still pauses momentarily at each level when long pressing.]
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Indeed there are 7. And you're also correct in the output. At least Amazon added quite a bit of different tones. But if you aren't using their software, you don't get access to them. I notice this while setting the alarm. There are a dozen or so. Ringtones should pop up in Media Storage, accessible using Activity Launcher or through Nova Launcher activities, however in my case only the Hangouts tone exists. I still haven't experimented with other ringtone/notification tone apps. That's on the list though.
Here's a question: termux is very cool. I know the devices have the ability to vibrate, there are hints in various places on the HD 8 at least that suggest it. Termux has the ability to make things vibrate. I just can't get the plugins installed properly. Cordova is installed via Termux, but I can't figure out how to install the plugin. Everytime I try is says the directory doesn't contain a project or isn't correct. Termux creates the proper directory and paths. Where do I put it and what am I doing wrong? (Just a general question to whomever).
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Here's a question: termux is very cool. I know the devices have the ability to vibrate, there are hints in various places on the HD 8 at least that suggest it. Termux has the ability to make things vibrate. I just can't get the plugins installed properly. Cordova is installed via Termux, but I can't figure out how to install the plugin. Everytime I try is says the directory doesn't contain a project or isn't correct. Termux creates the proper directory and paths. Where do I put it and what am I doing wrong? (Just a general question to whomever).
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I have no experience with Termux; agreed it looks very cool (added to personal bucket list). I don't believe the Fire 7 (and presumably HD 8) have the physical hardware to vibrate. Something Amazon has omitted from most, if not all, Fire devices. You are the expert in the room on Termux/Cordova as my knowledge could be written on the back of a postage stamp and still have room for the Lord's Prayer. Hopefully someone else chimes in.
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I have no experience with Termux; agreed it looks very cool (added to personal bucket list). I don't believe the Fire 7 (and presumably HD 8) have the physical hardware to vibrate. Something Amazon has omitted from most, if not all, Fire devices. You are the expert in the room on Termux/Cordova as my knowledge could be written on the back of a postage stamp and still have room for the Lord's Prayer. Hopefully someone else chimes in.
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Let me rephrase, because in a technical sense it's not really "vibration". Haptic feedback would be a more correct term? Supposedly FireOS does support Cordova (also here on NPM) and if I am reading correctly, the feature as well, unless they don't update their site often. Termux-API also supports it. I also don't get an error when I input the command in Termux. *scratches head.*
In my opinion, not even enabling a little bit of vibration is a bit odd. Even on other tablet like devices and phones there's always some kind of low level haptic when the volume is at the lowest. Older model Kindle Fires allegedly supported it.
Termux supposedly has the ability to do a good many cool things, but I have read over a few of the things and I got a bit confused. Studying what you can do with it takes some time and a lot of reading.
EDIT: I just tried one of the commands listed above in Termux API: termux-contact-list. Worked like a charm. Listed every contact. Crazy.
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Let me rephrase, because in a technical sense it's not really "vibration". Haptic feedback would be a more correct term?
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In my opinion, not even enabling a little bit of vibration is a bit odd. Even on other tablet like devices and phones there's always some kind of low level haptic when the volume is at the lowest. Older model Kindle Fires allegedly supported it.
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Same hardware component provides both types of tactile feedback. It's either there or not. The speaker in these little gizmos doesn't hit the low frequencies needed to emulate such feedback.
i would guess for cost savings this thing doesn't have the ability to vibrate, but termux is a fun app if you want to do some scripting on your tablet.