If some one can help me with my troubles it will be greatly appreciated, I recently purchased a SG Note 3 Brand new sealed and brought it to a store to unlock and the person tried and said this phone was new and was not able to be software unlocked unless by code which was more expensive so i declined.While waiting in the mean time i started reading xda forums for info on rooting my note 3,Where i discovered Canadian SM-900W8's weren't locked to a specific carrier.I proceeded to get my phone rooted and then discovered my phones knox was tripped and shows i have an custom software on it,other then bringing it to the store i haven't done anything else to my phone.
So my questions:
1.Should i do an EFS back up then Restore to official then re-root? while reading forums read somewhere sometimes restoring to official can also damage the EFS partition?
2.Should i proceed rooting my phone in the state its in or do i restore with official Firmware then proceed to root?
3.Is update 4.4.2 able to be rooted if yes,should i restore my phone straight to 4.4.2 then root?
4.if i update to 4.4.2 do i loose the ability to switch between Canadian carriers.
5.Is Knox 0X1 able to be reset for Qaulcomm yet?
6.Am i missing anything else before i begin ?
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (Model:SM-900W8 / Rogers)
Android Version:4.3
Baseband version:N900W8VLUBMJ4
Build number :JSS15J.N900W8VLUBMJ4
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Current Binary:Custom
System Status :Custom
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Knox Kernel Lock:0X0
Knox Warranty Void:0X1
D_01 said:
If some one can help me with my troubles it will be greatly appreciated, I recently purchased a SG Note 3 Brand new sealed and brought it to a store to unlock and the person tried and said this phone was new and was not able to be software unlocked unless by code which was more expensive so i declined.While waiting in the mean time i started reading xda forums for info on rooting my note 3,Where i discovered Canadian SM-900W8's weren't locked to a specific carrier.I proceeded to get my phone rooted and then discovered my phones knox was tripped and shows i have an custom software on it,other then bringing it to the store i haven't done anything else to my phone.
So my questions:
1.Should i do an EFS back up then Restore to official then re-root? while reading forums read somewhere sometimes restoring to official can also damage the EFS partition?
2.Should i proceed rooting my phone in the state its in or do i restore with official Firmware then proceed to root?
3.Is update 4.4.2 able to be rooted if yes,should i restore my phone straight to 4.4.2 then root?
4.if i update to 4.4.2 do i loose the ability to switch between Canadian carriers.
5.Is Knox 0X1 able to be reset for Qaulcomm yet?
6.Am i missing anything else before i begin ?
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (Model:SM-900W8 / Rogers)
Android Version:4.3
Baseband version:N900W8VLUBMJ4
Build number :JSS15J.N900W8VLUBMJ4
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Current Binary:Custom
System Status :Custom
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Knox Kernel Lock:0X0
Knox Warranty Void:0X1
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1. You don't need to restore something that's not broken.
2. Since you already tripped KNOX, yes.
3. 4.4.2 can be rooted.
4. 4.4.2 doesn't prevent you from doing anything related to carriers when compared to 4.3.
5. No
6. Flash stock using Odin by updating to 4.4.2 official Sammy NB7 ROM. Then begin there.
nicholaschum said:
1. You don't need to restore something that's not broken.
2. Since you already tripped KNOX, yes.
3. 4.4.2 can be rooted.
4. 4.4.2 doesn't prevent you from doing anything related to carriers when compared to 4.3.
5. No
6. Flash stock using Odin by updating to 4.4.2 official Sammy NB7 ROM. Then begin there.
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will I be able to downgrade back to 4.3 if ever i decide 4.4.2 is not for me ?
D_01 said:
will I be able to downgrade back to 4.3 if ever i decide 4.4.2 is not for me ?
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Follow my guide in my signature. If you update to NA2 bootloader, you are able to downgrade.
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Hi guys!
Yesterday I've received my new S4 and obviously I'm really happy!
I'm planning to root my S4 after some tests (just to be sure the device has not problems) and I'm thinking to flash the Google Edition ROM.
Now some questions:
- Is there some test,stuffs to check or common warrenty problem to check/wait before root my S4?
- Just rooting the device will invalidate the KNOX? Is there a way to restore the KNOX or may I root my device only when I'm sure I really want invalidate my warrenty?
- After rooting decision/time... I live in Italy but I've bought an EU S4: do you suggest me to change the CSC (I9505OXXBMG3) to ITV and flash Italy sotck/mod ROM or it doesn't matter and I can stay on the actual CSC?
- In your opinion, Is it really worth to flash the Google Edition 4.3 or may I wait for the official 4.3 from Samsung (I saw the leaked ROM so maybe it's time for official!)
Thanks guys!
If your device has the older bootloader you're fine for flashing as it doesn't have KNOX implemented. If it has the new bootloader with KNOX, flashing a custom rom will void your warranty forever. It flags it in download mode and you can't remove it even if you went back to fully stock, so you still wouldn't have any warranty
Someone posted this on one of the BLOG.
chiragnarasimha on 4 October 2013 at 14:52 said:
Incase the above method failed, then i am sad to tell you that there is a long process that is probably going take more than an hour to complete the downgrade process.
First of all, remember that when you upgraded to 4.3, you also upgraded stuff like BL(bootloader), AP(formerly known as pda which can be downloaded from this site), CP (modem of the phone) and finally CSC. So, the trick is to download the BL of 4.2.2, AP(PDA) of your region, CP of your region or your carrier, and the CSC of your region. Trust me, finding these stuff can be hard depending on the popularity of your region and the popularity of your carrier.
Hopefully, you were able to download all the above mentioned stuff. Now go ahead and flash these things with odin. Also note that wiping the device with the stock recovery ( vol up + home Key + Power button) might be necessary. While flashing with odin, DO NOT CHECK ANYTHING APART FROM AUTO REBOOT AND F. RESET TIME.
OR THE EASIEST IS PROBABLY TO WAIT FOR THE OFFICIAL RELEASE AND THEN FLASH IT WITH ODIN. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE OFFICIAL RELEASE WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE IN THIS WEBSITE ANYWAYS
will this work?? splitting the firmware? anyone?
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If your device has the older bootloader you're fine for flashing as it doesn't have KNOX implemented. If it has the new bootloader with KNOX, flashing a custom rom will void your warranty forever. It flags it in download mode and you can't remove it even if you went back to fully stock, so you still wouldn't have any warranty
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Thanks for response!
I've just reboot in download mode and my S4 printout:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: gt-I9505
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Offical
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTED: Enabled
Have I the older bootloader? I can't see any knox strings...
If yes, that means that if I want to flash the 4.3 Google Edition ROM it's better to flash it now before Samsung send me the OTA update of the official 4.3 ROM or I didn't understand well?
In which ROMs Samsung has introduces the KNOX.... I'm little bit confused because someone of you has KNOX but my S4 says to me via OTA thet there is no new update...
Markino said:
Thanks for response!
I've just reboot in download mode and my S4 printout:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: gt-I9505
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Offical
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTED: Enabled
Have I the older bootloader? I can't see any knox strings...
If yes, that means that if I want to flash the 4.3 Google Edition ROM it's better to flash it now before Samsung send me the OTA update of the official 4.3 ROM or I didn't understand well?
In which ROMs Samsung has introduces the KNOX.... I'm little bit confused because someone of you has KNOX but my S4 says to me via OTA thet there is no new update...
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Yup you have older bootloader, it's the same as mine except my says custom instead of official.
Hello,
I recently picked up a Canadian Galaxy S4. This is my first android device after using an iPhone 4 for the last 3 years. I'm a tinkering kind of guy so when I heard about the whole custom ROM community for the s4, I was excited. I've been reading up on this for the last 3 weeks and I still have a couple questions that I haven't really seen a solid answer for specifically regarding the 1337m model.
1) If I root it would be nice to be able to reverse things should I need to send it in for warranty repair. I understand that triangle away isn't working on the latest MG1 firmware (which my device came with). I know that the ME7 update on the US version included a bootloader that no longer allowed downgrading firmware. Is this the case with the Canadian models as well? If it is possible to downgrade are there any special steps that need to be taken, or can I just flash a stock MDJ image via odin/heimdall
2) I have read the whole thread about the issues with the knox warranty void efuse. I checked the download mode on my phone and it does not have any of the knox info on it, so as I understand it, knox isn't enabled and therefore as long as I don't update to new stock firmware and I shouldn't trip the efuse. I have disabled auto-update in the settings. Is there anything else that I should do or be aware of to make sure that my phone doesn't update and force the knox stuff on my phone.
At the end of the day, if my warranty is permanently void, that's fine, but if there's a way that I can still keep the ability to restore my phone to 100% stock without tripping and binary counters or efuses I'd like to make sure that I know and understand how to do that before I start flashing custom roms rather than trying to figure it out in a panic if something goes wrong on my device.
I've a i9505, unfortunately it's branded (but no locked) in T-Mobile. I'd love to install 4.3 on it, but T-Mobile hasn't released it, so it's unavailable in Kies.
I would like to know if it's possible to use official (non-branded) firmware and _not_ to trip Knox (as it voids warranty in Poland). I've went through most of Knox-related threads, but I fail to see clear indication of 1) if it's possible 2) how to do that.
Also, does anyone knows if, after de-branding the phone, I'll be able to upgrade from 4.3 to 4.4 (for example) without tripping Knox?
Any comments will be appreciated.
Bump, anyone?
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Bump, anyone?
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1. If u still having Knox 0x0 and android 4.2.2 only u have to root ur phone and delete the apps branded.
2. If u dont have updates in Kies is better. Don't void ur warranty and enjoy with ur 4.2.2 firmware.
OK, my point is to get Android 4.3 and not trip Knox - T-Mobile hasn't released 4.3 yet, and god knows when they do that.
Alternative question: is there a way to install official 4.3 without installing Knox bootloader?
i'v been looking around for the same thing, but i dont think thats possible without installing a custom made ROM
OK, let's try to put it another way: given that I have 4.2.2, do I risk losing warranty when I install CWM and some de-KNOXed 4.3 using Odin? Or Triangle Away will just work, and I'll be able to flash default software in case I need to service the phone?
Hey guys i have a galaxy s4 19500 running android 4.4.2 kitkat ( argentian (aro) firmware )
My phone was recently on 5.0.1 lollipop (indian ) version and i downgraded to 4.4.2 argentian firmware following a thread here on xda
I was wondering if a downgraded to 4.2.2 JELLYBEAN was possible ?
I mean i know it's super messy becuase of knox but if we take all the precautions like backing up efs partition then can the downgrade be done ?
I really think that jellybean is the perfect firmware for s4 and kitkat and lollipop have both made my s4 experience only worse
It would be awesome if i could go back to 4.2.2 jellybean and enjoy my old device
If you downgrade to 4.2.2 you will brick the device. Since new bootloader( version of Android 4.4.2 i think), you are not able to install 4.2.2 without brick.
@sgalchev: Not true at all. It is possible to replace 4.4.2 with 4.2.2 as I have done it in order to resolve issues I had with my S4. What ends up happening after doing the downgrade is that upon every boot and upon every trip into the recovery you will get a notification that the kernel or recovery is not SEAndroid enforcing. Other than that everything works normally.
Now, downgrading from 5.0.1 to 4.2.2 may be a completely different matter, but I suspect it too is possible.
Yea, shure, but you can't do it without ticking the Knox flag[emoji6] Goodbye warranty...
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@sgalchev: Not true at all. It is possible to replace 4.4.2 with 4.2.2 as I have done it in order to resolve issues I had with my S4. What ends up happening after doing the downgrade is that upon every boot and upon every trip into the recovery you will get a notification that the kernel or recovery is not SEAndroid enforcing. Other than that everything works normally.
Now, downgrading from 5.0.1 to 4.2.2 may be a completely different matter, but I suspect it too is possible.
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Hey man it feels awesome to know that it is possible to do can you please give detailed explanation of how you did it
I would really like to do it no matter how much hard or risky it is and i have already downgraded from 5.0.1 to 4.4.2 now i just need to downgrade to stock out of the box jellybean software
@sgalchev: Changing the goalposts? You flat out stated the OP would brick his S4 if he attempted to downgrade. When called on it, you switched your argument to tripping the Knox flag. As he mentioned in his latest post, he had downgraded to Android 4.4.2 from Android 5.0.1, so it's likely his Knox flag is already tripped. Even if it wasn't, I can't comfirm whether the Knox flag will get tripped as my Knox flag was tripped when I bought my I9505. Tripping the Knox flag != bricking the S4.
@tdssmarty16: Keep in mind that while everything worked, it took two flashes of the ROM to do it, and I only kept it on 4.2.2 long enough to verify that the hardware and firmware issues I was having were resolved. I then went back to 4.4.2. In downgrading to 4.2.2 I went to sammobile.com and downloaded the 4.2.2 firmware from them. Other than that, I simply treated it as if I was doing an upgrade through Odin. Unlike going from Android 5.0.1 to Android 4.4.2, going from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2 should be a piece of cake.
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@sgalchev: Changing the goalposts? You flat out stated the OP would brick his S4 if he attempted to downgrade. When called on it, you switched your argument to tripping the Knox flag. As he mentioned in his latest post, he had downgraded to Android 4.4.2 from Android 5.0.1, so it's likely his Knox flag is already tripped. Even if it wasn't, I can't comfirm whether the Knox flag will get tripped as my Knox flag was tripped when I bought my I9505. Tripping the Knox flag != bricking the S4.
@tdssmarty16: Keep in mind that while everything worked, it took two flashes of the ROM to do it, and I only kept it on 4.2.2 long enough to verify that the hardware and firmware issues I was having were resolved. I then went back to 4.4.2. In downgrading to 4.2.2 I went to sammobile.com and downloaded the 4.2.2 firmware from them. Other than that, I simply treated it as if I was doing an upgrade through Odin. Unlike going from Android 5.0.1 to Android 4.4.2, going from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2 should be a piece of cake.
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okay bro i will try to do it this way thanx for info
Hi I would appreciate alot if someone can teach me how to downgrade form 5.0 to 4.4.2 or at least 4.2.2 . I spent the whole day yesterday figuring out how to do it i'm not good with technology and I'm using a macbook. I'm using S4. Thank you.
Which model S4 do you have? Only certain models can be downgraded to 4.2.2.
Downgrade i9505
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Which model S4 do you have? Only certain models can be downgraded to 4.2.2.
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I downgraded my i9505 from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2 but had no sound so I went back to kitkat.It is possible to downgrade but I don't know is it possible to be fully functional.
I did it long enough to both check my SIM tray at the time, and to unlock the device. I wasn't getting any signal (expected), but I didn't check sound. I do suspect that if the 4.2.2 modem is flashed a second time everything would work. The only indicator that you were ever on anything higher would be the warning the bootloader pops up on every reboot about SELinux.
No sound,no wifi
I forgot first time to say wifi also didn't worked.I don't care for my warranty because flag was already tripped and now my device is older than 2 years so I can try some solution If someone has one.
anyone active here? it's not possible to downgrade to jelly bean anymore as the bootloader is locked to downgrade max at 4.4 as 4.2 will not work at all
if anyone has a ideea on how to do it (some people did it) i would be verry happy if you could share that info
I have not seen a post where someone running a 4.4.2 or 5.01 bootloader had successfully downgraded the bootloader to 4.2.2
Okay so I'm fairly new to the forums but I'm somewhat knowledgeable when it comes to rooting and flashing custom Roms.. At least one the Galaxy S3. So I now have a note 3 and I'd like to root and install a custom recovery and then from there a custom Rom after a little more research.. Because.. Eff touch Wiz. Now I got the note from a friend and it's been fully updated knox hasn't been enabled but has been fully updated and I believe the same thing for the security policies. Now this is where my question comes in I found a method on google (galaxynote3root.com) to root and install the recovery I just wanna know if anyone can confirm this method is safe with the new updates and what not? I'd rather not brick the phone obviously lol anyways the phone model is sm-n9008w unlocked but was a Rogers phone.. Android 5.0 stock firmware and recovery knox 2.3 any help would be appreciated
Which note 3 do you have? Are you sure it's not the sm-n900w8? Depending on the ROM you install, you may need to update to the latest bootloader and modem.
Edit: read your post again. Since stock LP is on the phone, Knox has been installed and the phone would be running the doc4 or doh1 firmware.
The simplest way to root would be to install TWRP and flash supersu from TWRP. You're going to trip the knox counter from 0x0 to 0x1. Also, make sure reactivation lock has not been enabled.