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I have the international version of the s4 on Tmobile USA network. I'm having issues with getting 3g/4g/H+ connection. Majority if the time is staying on edge, I've called tmobile and they've helped little, made a few adjustments but still mainly getting edge. Just seeing if anyone is encountering the same thing and found a solution.
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I have the international version of the s4 on Tmobile USA network. I'm having issues with getting 3g/4g/H+ connection. Majority if the time is staying on edge, I've called tmobile and they've helped little, made a few adjustments but still mainly getting edge. Just seeing if anyone is encountering the same thing and found a solution.
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I doubt that i9500 will support 4G but 3g should work may be some APN / Area issue
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5125&idPhone2=5371
Im on Tmobile (USA/New Jersey)
Almost all Manhattan cover with H/H+, sometimes I see 3G.
In New Jersey most of the time Edge.
Regards.
avetny said:
Im on Tmobile (USA/New Jersey)
Almost all Manhattan cover with H/H+, sometimes I see 3G.
In New Jersey most of the time Edge.
Regards.
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What network mode are u running and did u do any modifications to the access points?
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What network mode are u running and did u do any modifications to the access points?
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-GSM/WCDMA (auto/connect)
-"0" modification.
Boy is it your first international phone?
Any way what kind of modification they (tmobile) do to you ?
avetny said:
-GSM/WCDMA (auto/connect)
-"0" modification.
Boy is it your first international phone?
Any way what kind of modification they (tmobile) do to you ?
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Yeah first international, got it as a gift or otherwise I would have gotten the carrier branded. They had me changed it to WCMDA, and changed the apn name to fast.t-mobile.com That actually got me some H+ and 3G connection momentarily then went right back to edge.
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Yeah first international, got it as a gift or otherwise I would have gotten the carrier branded. They had me changed it to WCMDA, and changed the apn name to fast.t-mobile.com That actually got me some H+ and 3G connection momentarily then went right back to edge.
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Oh....all international phones not compatibly with t-mobile 4G bandage. I remember I started seeing first "3G" in the end of 2012. I shocked I got H+ most of the time with GS4 ! (example check my screenshot. This is now in Jersey City)
Also international phones got stable "3G" everywhere on AT&T.
And BTW thank you very much for this "They had me changed it to WCMDA, and changed the apn name to fast.t-mobile.com That actually got me some H+ and 3G connection momentarily then went right back to edge." I will try.
Regards.
I'd just sell the international and buy the t mobile version. Make your life easier.
bobbydsiu said:
I'd just sell the international and buy the t mobile version. Make your life easier.
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No. I don't need Snapdragon even for free.
I got my phone more than a month ago. It's soon the time to sell this phone...(Note3 coming out)
...example my Note3 will be on sale already when it will "just arrived" to usa networks.
+International phones got biggest development.
Regards.
avetny said:
No. I don't need Snapdragon even for free.
I got my phone more than a month ago. It's soon the time to sell this phone...(Note3 coming out)
...example my Note3 will be on sale already when it will "just arrived" to usa networks.
+International phones got biggest development.
Regards.
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Yeah I just put it on Craigslist seeing if someone is interested in a trade for a carrier brand. I love this version and all but it's 2013 I need network speed. I just can't believe with all this technology they can't make a international phone that supports worldwide bands. I was asking on here if there was a way to root it and flash the Tmobile bands or another route other than trading out for a carrier branded model.
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Yeah I just put it on Craigslist seeing if someone is interested in a trade for a carrier brand. I love this version and all but it's 2013 I need network speed. I just can't believe with all this technology they can't make a international phone that supports worldwide bands. I was asking on here if there was a way to root it and flash the Tmobile bands or another route other than trading out for a carrier branded model.
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Yea I see your point.
So is there a way to root and flash Tmobile radio or bands?
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So is there a way to root and flash Tmobile radio or bands?
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unfortunately it comes down to the hardware, and long story short, the I9500 does not have 1700mhz band. www.airportal.de let's you see where t mobile is "refarming" the 1900mhz band which will work with your phone.
sorry dude, and I'm sorry too because I play 3d games and the I9500 has a smoother and faster gpu :crying:
calibachrome said:
I have the international version of the s4 on Tmobile USA network. I'm having issues with getting 3g/4g/H+ connection. Majority if the time is staying on edge, I've called tmobile and they've helped little, made a few adjustments but still mainly getting edge. Just seeing if anyone is encountering the same thing and found a solution.
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yes.
same here.
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avetny said:
Im on Tmobile (USA/New Jersey)
Almost all Manhattan cover with H/H+, sometimes I see 3G.
In New Jersey most of the time Edge.
Regards.
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me too
I just got this unlocked verizon g2 and am using it on att, I can't get lte but I was seeing if there's a way to enable aws on it? I really like this phone but this slow data is killing me
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MrPlNK said:
I just got this unlocked verizon g2 and am using it on att, I can't get lte but I was seeing if there's a way to enable aws on it? I really like this phone but this slow data is killing me
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AT&T doesn't use AWS, except in very very VERY few areas, and only for LTE. They use 700 MHz. Verizon uses 750 MHz.
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AT&T doesn't use AWS, except in very very VERY few areas, and only for LTE. They use 700 MHz. Verizon uses 750 MHz.
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But Verizon is starting to activate their AWS spectrum in "major metropolitan areas" but there are conflicting reports in regards to the Verizon variant of the G2 and AWS.
Especially since most recent Verizon LTE phones can access the spectrum yet it hasn't been confirmed for the G2.
Do you understand what AWS is though? It's just 1700/2100 MHz together. AT&T doesn't use it (except as I said in like less than 1% of their LTE areas). AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz for HSPA+ ("4G") and 700 MHz for LTE (which Verizon devices don't do).
AWS is what T-Mobile uses for LTE though, so you'd be able to get T-Mobile's LTE out of the box.
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But lemme get one thing straight, can the phones run at these frequencies if a different modem flashed or what? Anyway this isnt going to be an issue for me because im buying an att variant and selling my Verizon variant
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But lemme get one thing straight, can the phones run at these frequencies if a different modem flashed or what? Anyway this isnt going to be an issue for me because im buying an att variant and selling my Verizon variant
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No, it's more than just the modem file. Like you said, just go and buy the AT&T (or T-Mobile) version. The T-Mobile version will work on AT&T fully as well.
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No, it's more than just the modem file. Like you said, just go and buy the AT&T (or T-Mobile) version. The T-Mobile version will work on AT&T fully as well.
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Than its different hardware?
Also, T-Mobile variant will work on AT&T LTE?
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Need to know if tmobile variant will work on att lte out of box, about to go meet up with someone who has one and id rather not waste anyone's time..
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Need to know if tmobile variant will work on att lte out of box, about to go meet up with someone who has one and id rather not waste anyone's time..
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I posted before that, yes, a T-Mobile device will fully work on AT&T with LTE and everything. If you don't have LTE on it when you put the SIM in, call up AT&T and tell them to turn on LTE on your account (if you've never had an LTE device on your AT&T account before).
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I posted before that, yes, a T-Mobile device will fully work on AT&T with LTE and everything. If you don't have LTE on it when you put the SIM in, call up AT&T and tell them to turn on LTE on your account (if you've never had an LTE device on your AT&T account before).
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Ive had lte phones since they came out, i just havent seen anything about it but you saying itll work. I just dont want to be stuck in the same position i am now with this Verizon phone
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MrPlNK said:
Ive had lte phones since they came out, i just havent seen anything about it but you saying itll work. I just dont want to be stuck in the same position i am now with this Verizon phone
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T-Mobile devices are the same as AT&T devices; the only thing different is that they also support T-Mobile's 4G (which uses AWS) where as AT&T devices don't. I promise you it'll work. Just make sure you ask the buyer for a receipt to prove that he paid for the phone in full; you might end up with a device that gets blacklisted because the buyer decides not to pay for the phone/his bill in full.
So, is the Verizon G2 AWS capable?
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So, is the Verizon G2 AWS capable?
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Only for LTE. It won't get LTE on AT&T but it will on T-Mobile.
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I don't get why people still think they can just bring a Verizon LTE phone to ATT OR ATT LTE to Sprint or Sprint LTE to Tmobile, etc. It is pretty ridiculous that most people don't understand how cell phones work and never look at the frequencies that are supported on the phone.
About Verizon AWS LTE...Verizon has said that they are only deploying 5,000 AWS LTE towers by the end of this year and willing be adding more sites in 2014. You think 5,000 LTE sites is a lot considering that Verizon's network comprises of 45,000 towers. Let me tell you it isn't considering that is only about 1/9 of the total towers spread out nationwide. You'll be lucky to get a stable LTE connection if you only have LTE BC 4 support considering the shorter range propagation characteristics of AWS spectrum. Anyone thinking of bringing over their Tmobile LTE phones to Verizon better think twice before doing that assuming they will get the same LTE range and coverage as its 700 MHz LTE network.
To me it is always easier to just sell the LTE phone that I am no longer a carrier with and buy the carrier branded LTE phone to avoid all this hassle of unlocking it and having to worry about frequency incompatibilities.
Verizon and att share an aws band. I know about phones, im not dumb. I was just exploring the possibility of it being achieved. If the phones have exactly same hardware across the board, than it means its software related, which in the android world, with alot of trial and error and work, most software issues can be overcome. Thanks for your huge rant though, you should go work for Verizon
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Verizon and att share an aws band. I know about phones, im not dumb. I was just exploring the possibility of it being achieved. If the phones have exactly same hardware across the board, than it means its software related, which in the android world, with alot of trial and error and work, most software issues can be overcome. Thanks for your huge rant though, you should go work for Verizon
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Dude. I know everything there is to know about this. AT&T uses AWS LTE in VERY VERY VERY few areas. You won't be able to get LTE with your Verizon G2 on 99% of their network.
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So I was looking over the difference between D800 (ATT) and D801 (TMOUS) and it seems that the reception difference is D800 has an LTE band 5 and the D801 has an 3G band of 1700. Whats the practical difference in reception? Seems like att is starting to grow band 5, and 1700 is tmobile. I travel to some remote areas and I think tmobile works there and att struggles (not sure at least it did 2 years ago), but do like the idea of freely switching between the two without having a tradeoff. will probably start with straight talk for att but will switch to the tmous if i cant get service where i move.
Please share thoughts on the best strategy...
thank you
Trying to get an answer on this also
Hi.
I've been trying to get an answer to this also, my post received no answers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506590
From my own, uninformed research I think we will be fine taking the T-mobile LG G2 (d801) to AT&T.
Looking at the information below taken from Phone Arena, the LTE band 5 isn't in all AT&T LTE phones
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-One-X-LTE_id7376
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-Express-I437_id7515
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Nokia-Lumia-920_id7471
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Nokia-Lumia-925_id7850
Going off of this research I've ordered the D801 but It is possible I can turn out to be wrong.
This explains it more
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...y-compatible-with-atts-lte-and-hspa-networks/
I'm currently using the Tmobile version on ATT and haven't had any issues so far. The only problem I'm having is it appears there is substantially less support for the Tmobile version.
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I'm currently using the Tmobile version on ATT and haven't had any issues so far. The only problem I'm having is it appears there is substantially less support for the Tmobile version.
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Thx for the confirmation
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I'm currently using the Tmobile version on ATT and haven't had any issues so far. The only problem I'm having is it appears there is substantially less support for the Tmobile version.
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The D801 CM maintainer was out of county apparently and I'm guessing he held off on uploading everything since he's been gone for a couple weeks and didn't want to push something that would be broken for weeks by chance. We'll start seeing a good bit of roms in the coming weeks and by everything moving to KitKat we'll be in as good of shape as any other device since our devices are plenty similar to each other.
LG G2 d801 (t-mobile) with AT&T straight talk activation help...
I just tried to activate my factory unlocked lg g2 d801 with straight talk with at&t. I set my APN up for the at&t network and used the at&t sim card that came with the straight talk bundle. Now on the lock screen it says invalid SIM card.
What do I have to do to make my phone work? Thanks in advance!
I borked phone flashing a T Mobile based ROM on my canadian G2 (since they both are the D801; by personal research I've observed the D803 works as intended on my canadian D801). I will try later today to flash yet again another T Mo rom on it, but this time I'll flash back the stock kernel. I'll report back.
Just to play it safe, I'd reflash your stock kernel... that way it won't act funny all of a sudden along the way.
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I borked phone flashing a T Mobile based ROM on my canadian G2 (since they both are the D801; by personal research I've observed the D803 works as intended on my canadian D801). I will try later today to flash yet again another T Mo rom on it, but this time I'll flash back the stock kernel. I'll report back.
Just to play it safe, I'd reflash your stock rom... that way it won't act funny all of a sudden.
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I borked phone flashing a T Mobile based ROM on my canadian G2 (since they both are the D801; by personal research I've observed the D803 works as intended on my canadian D801). I will try later today to flash yet again another T Mo rom on it, but this time I'll flash back the stock kernel. I'll report back.
Just to play it safe, I'd reflash your stock kernel... that way it won't act funny all of a sudden along the way.
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Thanks, but I haven't rooted my phone and don't really intend to unless I absolutely need to. It's factory unlocked right out of the box.
It turns out Verizon was holding things up. I'm so happy I'm leaving them.
I tried setting up my APN, but now I can't download or view any media or picture texts in messenger or hangouts. Any suggestions?
LTE on AT&T with D801?
I can't seem to find a clear answer on whether it's possible to get LTE indication and speed on a D801 (TMo) used on AT&T.
Tech Support is giving me the "we can't guarantee data speeds on non-AT&T-branded phones".
This thread seems to say a TMo-branded phone (LG G2 in my case) CAN be provisioned for LTE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506590
Most other threads say no, or there's no conclusion in the thread.
Can anyone give me the straight answer and tell me how to go about it? A way to get past the stone-walling AT&T techs?
I have H2O which uses AT&T's network but only HSPA+ and not LTE but the phone sees AT&T's LTE network when searching for networks.
In this thread there is a screenshot of a T-Mobile phone getting LTE indication on the AT&T network.
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I have H2O which uses AT&T's network but only HSPA+ and not LTE but the phone sees AT&T's LTE network when searching for networks.
In this thread there is a screenshot of a T-Mobile phone getting LTE indication on the AT&T network.
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Along with a lot of confusion about why his phone was working on LTE. As a relative newb to this stuff I couldn't make any sense of it.
Also in that thread was this comment:
T-Mobile devices support ALL AT&T and T-Mobile bands, except LTE Band 5 (used by AT&T in a few rural areas). What's wrong is AT&T turns off LTE for non-AT&T devices. You have to call them up and give them the IMEI # of an AT&T-branded device (even if it's not yours and even if your SIM isn't in it/you don't plan on using it). They don't check after that.
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So it might be possible to "trick" the carrier into allowing LTE?
Guys, I'm not getting data and sms on my unlocked d801 on at&t. Can anybody share APN settings for at&t that work?
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I got my unlock tmo g2 working on at&t with LTE, mms, and Microsoft exchange email after some effort. It's also connecting to my 3g microcell.
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Sorry for hijacking but anyone moving from D801 to ATT can share their APN Settings. Cant get internet to work to save my life!
Hey, I've used xda plenty in the past before but never had to post a question so bear with me.
I bought a att lg g2 and a tmobile sim to go with it. I can only get 3g, no lte. Its very slow. I did some reading and it looks discouraging. I live in south texas.
Is there anyway to turn on the radio bands i need to make 4g/lte work? I saw a thread about how to turn on lte for custom roms. Will that work or not? I think tmobile uses bands 17 19 and 21. There are those bands in the hidden menu on my phone but idk. It looks like some att lg g2s work with tmobile lte and others do not. Thanks for your help.
Ps. Im on another forum where the attitude towards noobs is like xda's so take it easy on me lol.
First thing first, have you rooted, unlocked the phone and bootloader?
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First thing first, have you rooted, unlocked the phone and bootloader?
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Yes, its rooted and unlocked for different carriers. Su is installed but not a custom recovery. Im not really interested in installing a custom rom at this point.
From the carrier pages:
AT&T LG G2 has bands 1,2,4,5 & 17
T-Mobile LG G2 has: 2,4,7 & 17
7 is 2600MHz so it's not relevant for the US
I would say it's not a phone capability problem
The T-Mobile LG G2 has a seting in networks for network mode: GSM, WCDMA, GSM+WCDMA, GSM+WCDMA+LTE
The same can be achieved with the Phone Info app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=myc.phone.PhoneInfo
Also make sure you are using the fast.t-mobile.com APN http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090
That apn you linked above does not work on my phone. I talked to a tmobile rep this morning and thats the one he gave me. When that one didnt work i got referred up the line to a rep that sent me texts with setting patches that supposedly set my phone up like a tmobile one but i didnt get 4g/lte from that and it wasnt the lte apn. I did, however, find another fast.tmobile.com apn with a little bit different settings than the one linked above that gave me 3g. Im at a loss, I guess.
LTE works fine on this phone, I use a D800 on T-Mobile, you just need the LTE APN. That's what I use on mine.
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Im using the apn from this link and no 4g. Just edge. Its a lte apn tutorial. I know i have tmobile lte in my area. Thanks for the help so far tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2236735
Do yall think it would be possible to install a tmobile kernel to maybe turn on bands that i need for tmobile lte? Tmobile uses bands 1700 and 2100. In some areas, it looks like, att phones do have tmobile lte .
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Do yall think it would be possible to install a tmobile kernel to maybe turn on bands that i need for tmobile lte? Tmobile uses bands 1700 and 2100. In some areas, it looks like, att phones do have tmobile lte .
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Only use D800 kernels on this model.
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Make sure there is a dash in t-mobile in fast.t-mobile.com
Did you ever get this fixed?
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Only use D800 kernels on this model.
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Thanks for Attached Thumbnails, I changed mine to match, and it works.
But it does take sometime to connect, especially inside house.
I'm running CM11 nightly 12/26.
Hello, I'm new to this stuff, but does anybody know what version of the V20 (TMo, Sprint, 996, etc) bands match Project-Fi's bands the closest? I have a T-Mo V2 currently on Fi but it sometimes doesn't ring when I receive phone calls. I'm guessing it is because it is missing a band or something (or maybe it's just a defective phone) and that's why the call doesn't go through.
Thanks in advance!
My understanding for it to work properly you need the pixel or the nexus 6 or might also include the nexus 5. Any other phone you will run in to issues as they say only the T-Mobile band will work. Might be why you are having issues with your lg phone.
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Thanks for the quick response. I know it isn't "officially" supported by Fi. I'm just trying to get as many bands as possible to work with. I understand I won't have quite as good of a signal as I would if I had a Pixel but I can't stand the huge bezels and smaller screen. I'm wondering if I might have better luck with the 996 instead of the TMo version.
Well I'm pretty sure Fi uses Sprint and T-Mobile at the same time. Since Sprint is a CDMA network, a T-Mobile phone isn't going to be able to use it, except for VoLTE, and even then probably not.
I don't know too much info about WCDMA (TMO) and CDMA (Sprint) band usage by the two carriers, so I can't give too much info there.
T-Mobile uses LTE bands 1(?), 2/4, 4/66, 12 (there's weird frequency stuff where B4 matches B2 on one of its frequencies. 4 and 66 use the same frequency range). Sprint uses 25, 26, 41 (don't ask, I have no idea, since VZ and ATT use 2,4,13 and 2,4,17 respectively, and 17 is a subset of 12).
The T-Mobile V20 supports 1,2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,20 (some of these aren't mentioned by the FCC because they weren't tested, and LG's site doesn't mention them. T-Mobile has the full list, except for 17, but that's just 12 like I said earlier). WCDMA-wise, it supports I, II, IV, V. It has no CDMA support nor Sprint LTE support.
Sprint's variant supports LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12/17, 25, 26, 41. It also happens to support all the WCDMA bands the T-Mobile variant does, plus the 900MHz frequency.
The US996 is the same story as the LS997, but with the addition of B13 and B20, minus B25 and B41. I can't find info, but I assume the WCDMA bands are the same.
Strangely enough, the LS997 has more current functionality in the US than the US996. I recommend you go for that. It is $793 instead of $770 like the TMO, but that's $7 less than the US996, and it'll work fine on T-Mobile, ATT (if you roam) and Sprint. Roaming on Verizon will be alright in most places, but the lack of VZ's low frequency band (13), it might have trouble in rural areas. Luckily, you probably won't have to worry about Verizon compatibility (and it probably supports it without mentioning it anyway).
Has anyone got T-Mobile to run on the Verizon v20...I can get text and call to work together all day ,or 4g works all day with out the others.If I get all 3 working at once it keeps cutting off network then comes back on..I've did the APN,and network.Just wondering if it has been done...
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Thanks for the very in-depth post. I really appreciate your time and effort. I never even thought about the Sprint version until you said that. Will all those bands be active without unlocking the (Sprint) phone? If so, then that is the phone I'll get.
Thanks again for all the info!
Patrick
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Well I'm pretty sure Fi uses Sprint and T-Mobile at the same time. Since Sprint is a CDMA network, a T-Mobile phone isn't going to be able to use it, except for VoLTE, and even then probably not.
I don't know too much info about WCDMA (TMO) and CDMA (Sprint) band usage by the two carriers, so I can't give too much info there.
T-Mobile uses LTE bands 1(?), 2/4, 4/66, 12 (there's weird frequency stuff where B4 matches B2 on one of its frequencies. 4 and 66 use the same frequency range). Sprint uses 25, 26, 41 (don't ask, I have no idea, since VZ and ATT use 2,4,13 and 2,4,17 respectively, and 17 is a subset of 12).
The T-Mobile V20 supports 1,2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,20 (some of these aren't mentioned by the FCC because they weren't tested, and LG's site doesn't mention them. T-Mobile has the full list, except for 17, but that's just 12 like I said earlier). WCDMA-wise, it supports I, II, IV, V. It has no CDMA support nor Sprint LTE support.
Sprint's variant supports LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12/17, 25, 26, 41. It also happens to support all the WCDMA bands the T-Mobile variant does, plus the 900MHz frequency.
The US996 is the same story as the LS997, but with the addition of B13 and B20, minus B25 and B41. I can't find info, but I assume the WCDMA bands are the same.
Strangely enough, the LS997 has more current functionality in the US than the US996. I recommend you go for that. It is $793 instead of $770 like the TMO, but that's $7 less than the US996, and it'll work fine on T-Mobile, ATT (if you roam) and Sprint. Roaming on Verizon will be alright in most places, but the lack of VZ's low frequency band (13), it might have trouble in rural areas. Luckily, you probably won't have to worry about Verizon compatibility (and it probably supports it without mentioning it anyway).
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preilly44 said:
Thanks for the very in-depth post. I really appreciate your time and effort. I never even thought about the Sprint version until you said that. Will all those bands be active without unlocking the (Sprint) phone? If so, then that is the phone I'll get.
Thanks again for all the info!
Patrick
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Well unlocking doesn't actually unlock any bands. It just allows use on other carriers. These bands are always available for use. I don't know Sprint's unlocking policy, since I'm on T-Mobile, but check it out. It might be pre-unlocked like Verizon phones.
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Has anyone got T-Mobile to run on the Verizon v20...I can get text and call to work together all day ,or 4g works all day with out the others.If I get all 3 working at once it keeps cutting off network then comes back on..I've did the APN,and network.Just wondering if it has been done...
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The VS995 supports all the GSM (2G) frequencies that T-Mobile uses, although it doesn't support as many as the T-Mobile variant, so Canadian coverage might be weird with traditional calls and texts.
It's also missing B4 UMTS, which is a pretty important one. If you're in an area without 2G but with HSPA+, you could have issues. It also doesn't support LTE B12, T-Mobile's low frequency band. This is important to have in cities.
I don't have 12 here...usually 2/4
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Like I said all works just not together
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kenbrownstone said:
I don't have 12 here...usually 2/4
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Like I said all works just not together
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I'm thinking that's probably not a T-Mobile thing then. All stock messaging? Are your APNs right?
Yes sir all good..that's what is strange..I have moto z force running on T-Mobile no issue
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kenbrownstone said:
Yes sir all good..that's what is strange..I have moto z force running on T-Mobile no issue
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Have you tried a factory reset? Maybe a replacement phone? It might be worth it just to get the V20 from T-Mobile. I know it's more expensive, but it'll probably work.
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Have you tried a factory reset? Maybe a replacement phone? It might be worth it just to get the V20 from T-Mobile. I know it's more expensive, but it'll probably work.
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I might just send back and get another...Bad thing is it came with a scratch so I was sending back anyway...A scratch over a inch long with a gap in the middle and it looks deep to were it messes with the colors on the screen...My nephew has a lg that has same issue..This is one nice phone though
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I might just send back and get another...Bad thing is it came with a scratch so I was sending back anyway...A scratch over a inch long with a gap in the middle and it looks deep to were it messes with the colors on the screen...My nephew has a lg that has same issue..This is one nice phone though
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It is a great phone. I just wish it was more consistent.
My first V20 had severe noise reduction on everything, and weird bumps on the transition from the screen glass to the plastic bezels. One side would be more pronounced than the other. My replacement is better in noise reduction, but it still has those uneven transitions.
My mom's V20 has almost no weird transition, but it does have some noise reduction issues. This phone is weird to say the least
So I just got a Sprint ls997 and when I take the Project-Fi sim card out of my working T-Mo v20 and put it in the Sprint V20 it just shows the invalid sim card icon in the upper right corner (nothing in notifications though). Does that mean I need to unlock the Sprint version of the phone? If so, why didn't I have to unlock the T-Mo version? I looked quickly and couldn't find any websites that would unlock the Sprint V20.
Thanks in advance!
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Well I'm pretty sure Fi uses Sprint and T-Mobile at the same time. Since Sprint is a CDMA network, a T-Mobile phone isn't going to be able to use it, except for VoLTE, and even then probably not.
I don't know too much info about WCDMA (TMO) and CDMA (Sprint) band usage by the two carriers, so I can't give too much info there.
T-Mobile uses LTE bands 1(?), 2/4, 4/66, 12 (there's weird frequency stuff where B4 matches B2 on one of its frequencies. 4 and 66 use the same frequency range). Sprint uses 25, 26, 41 (don't ask, I have no idea, since VZ and ATT use 2,4,13 and 2,4,17 respectively, and 17 is a subset of 12).
The T-Mobile V20 supports 1,2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,20 (some of these aren't mentioned by the FCC because they weren't tested, and LG's site doesn't mention them. T-Mobile has the full list, except for 17, but that's just 12 like I said earlier). WCDMA-wise, it supports I, II, IV, V. It has no CDMA support nor Sprint LTE support.
Sprint's variant supports LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12/17, 25, 26, 41. It also happens to support all the WCDMA bands the T-Mobile variant does, plus the 900MHz frequency.
The US996 is the same story as the LS997, but with the addition of B13 and B20, minus B25 and B41. I can't find info, but I assume the WCDMA bands are the same.
Strangely enough, the LS997 has more current functionality in the US than the US996. I recommend you go for that. It is $793 instead of $770 like the TMO, but that's $7 less than the US996, and it'll work fine on T-Mobile, ATT (if you roam) and Sprint. Roaming on Verizon will be alright in most places, but the lack of VZ's low frequency band (13), it might have trouble in rural areas. Luckily, you probably won't have to worry about Verizon compatibility (and it probably supports it without mentioning it anyway).
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preilly44 said:
So I just got a Sprint ls997 and when I take the Project-Fi sim card out of my working T-Mo v20 and put it in the Sprint V20 it just shows the invalid sim card icon in the upper right corner (nothing in notifications though). Does that mean I need to unlock the Sprint version of the phone? If so, why didn't I have to unlock the T-Mo version? I looked quickly and couldn't find any websites that would unlock the Sprint V20.
Thanks in advance!
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The Sprint phone should be unlocked I think, but if it isn't, they will unlock it for you if you call. Any device made after February 2015 is like that for Sprint.
You're rebooting when you put the SIM In right?
Thanks, I called Sprint and they said it was still tied to the previous owners account. The previous owner said they paid it off and removed it from their account on 12/22 so they called and requested to have it unlocked. Sprint said it would take 3-5 business days after they did paid it off and it would automatically be unlocked. I'm not sure I believe that but we'll see in a couple days.
Yes, the battery was out when I installed the sim card so it was rebooted.
Thanks for all your help and advice!
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The Sprint phone should be unlocked I think, but if it isn't, they will unlock it for you if you call. Any device made after February 2015 is like that for Sprint.
You're rebooting when you put the SIM In right?
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Just a quick update, according to Sprint, the phone now should be unlocked. Is there a way on the phone I can tell if it is unlocked? When I put a sim card in from another carrier I'm getting the icon at the top of the screen of a sim card with an ! in it. When I try to make a phone call it does not go through. It also doesn't show my phone number or any other info related to the sim card on the phone's info screen.
Any advice?
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Thanks, I called Sprint and they said it was still tied to the previous owners account. The previous owner said they paid it off and removed it from their account on 12/22 so they called and requested to have it unlocked. Sprint said it would take 3-5 business days after they did paid it off and it would automatically be unlocked. I'm not sure I believe that but we'll see in a couple days.
Yes, the battery was out when I installed the sim card so it was rebooted.
Thanks for all your help and advice!
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preilly44 said:
Just a quick update, according to Sprint, the phone now should be unlocked. Is there a way on the phone I can tell if it is unlocked? When I put a sim card in from another carrier I'm getting the icon at the top of the screen of a sim card with an ! in it. When I try to make a phone call it does not go through. It also doesn't show my phone number or any other info related to the sim card on the phone's info screen.
Any advice?
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You should try rebooting if you haven't.
Thanks, I should have said in the last post that I've tried battery pulls and even a factory reset.
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You should try rebooting if you haven't.
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Thanks, I should have said in the last post that I've tried battery pulls and even a factory reset.
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Hmm. Maybe call Sprint again. It sounds like the unlock may not have been processed.