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Low scores benchmarking?

Hey, can i ask some of you guys what kind of benchmark scores u get out of the box so completely stock?
Every review i read about this tab f.e. quadrant benchmark scores are around 3800, some reviews say above 4000.
Im getting like 3300, that really seems low.
Antutu benchmark is around 6800 wich is the same as i read in reviews.
Any ideas?
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Looks like its my CPU thats causing it
The subscores are almost identical except the CPU score, that one is 2331 in most benchmarks i have seen its almost double

Does the device disables 1 core for some reason?
Just found out that sometimes in quadrant it says there is only 1 cpu core, scores are low then.
Very few times it says there are 2 cores and scores are higher then but still too low if u ask me.
I don't get it.
Only thing done to it is that it is rooted. Can this cause it or is it just hardware failure?

I've had a bunch of Android devices in the past few years and have never worried about benchmark scores. If there are no weird force close issues and your interface moves along fine, then don't sweat it. I find that people tend to get a bit obsessive over details that may not even be accurate rather than simply using the device.

i know but still there is something wrong and i dont like it to be wrong. A benchmark doesnt say anything about realtime performance in apps and games etc but if a benchmark is way to low it does tell u there is something wrong. I would have bought a cheaper tablet if i wanted a 30% slower cpu and that is what it is regarding raw cpu power
I just havemt figured it out yet. If i reboot it its okay when test it again after a while its happening. Lowest bench mark 2400 have to reboot again then its 3800 and it gets lower after every run.
Thats not okay

Just did a benchmark, now my cpu score is good but the total quadrant score is still2600 because when the cpu scores normal another component lacks, now its the mem that scores halve. When mem and cpu scores good its the io that scores halve.
Benchmark or not this is wrong and since i spent 20h non stop on trying to find out what kind of crap is causing this im just going to bed and see if i can exchange this piece

as i read, every benchmark would give us different information and also scores i guess. believe with my own eyes

I just run QB advance with ssh server, vnc server, IM+, bluetooth tethering etc. turned on and still got 3733.
I am not sure if this figure satisifying, but I really satisfying with its video streaming playback performance. The performance on video streaming alone surpress any other tablets in the market (except iPad 3 which should be better according to its spec.).

I've posted this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1578981
Check it out, it seems weird to me too, it looks like nobody exactly knows if there's something wrong or not...

Well it is a problem.
A benchmark like quadrant also tests the cpu, its measuring how many calculations a cpu can do in what time.
This CPU should be scoring at least 4k, in my case it did like 2k so that means it does takes double the time for the same amount of calculations.
It's not about being a benchmark addict, it is about commen sense.
I returned mine, got it confirmed as a hardware problem.
So i got a brand new one and i tested it a bit and it seemed good. Steady scores no CPU issues at all.
But now this unit has a bad screen, the one i had was kinda perfect, best screen ever. This looks to edgy causing eye focus issues looking at it, also because the slightest movement changes the way the colors look.
Probably ive been bad in a former life, the performance issue now also reached this unit. It worked for 4 days like it should, not its performing like a cheap tablet again.
So now i have the same problem AND a bad screen.
I have the same issues i have with cheap tablets, the reason why i purchased this tablet is because i was tired about the bad screens in cheap tablets and the stuttering.
Well lol.
I read something a bout sucky samsung quality controll.. I now understand.

radjeshsitaram said:
Well it is a problem.
A benchmark like quadrant also tests the cpu, its measuring how many calculations a cpu can do in what time.
This CPU should be scoring at least 4k, in my case it did like 2k so that means it does takes double the time for the same amount of calculations.
It's not about being a benchmark addict, it is about commen sense.
I returned mine, got it confirmed as a hardware problem.
So i got a brand new one and i tested it a bit and it seemed good. Steady scores no CPU issues at all.
But now this unit has a bad screen, the one i had was kinda perfect, best screen ever. This looks to edgy causing eye focus issues looking at it, also because the slightest movement changes the way the colors look.
Probably ive been bad in a former life, the performance issue now also reached this unit. It worked for 4 days like it should, not its performing like a cheap tablet again.
So now i have the same problem AND a bad screen.
I have the same issues i have with cheap tablets, the reason why i purchased this tablet is because i was tired about the bad screens in cheap tablets and the stuttering.
Well lol.
I read something a bout sucky samsung quality controll.. I now understand.
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Man... sorry to hear that.... mine goes up to 3422, sometimes higher/lower than that....
Anyway I don't know if you did take a look at my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1578981 There's my whole story...

How many times have I (and many other reviewers) got to say this: Benchmarks are NOT the be all end all of indicating the performance of a device!! Stop getting caught up in that notion! UGH!!!
Here's how you know how well your device is working performance-wise:
Have you tried my performance tweaks listed in the common fixes thread? No? Do that. Yes? Good.
Is your device responsive and smooth? Yes? Good! No? When/where/under what conditions isn't it?
Now, uninstall any and every benchmark tool from your device, free up space and resources, quit your moaning and complaining, and enjoy your tablet.
End of story.

Benchmarks, at least the cpu parts, test raw power, now sorry dude if it scores half what it should then there is a reason to complain.
When it translates into stuttering there is even more reason to complain.
Maybe it is a end of story for you well good for you then.
Even when in use there is no problem yet, when the hardware can't reach the performance it should there is a reason to complain because it has a reason why it cant and that reason is what ever it is not okay.
If u have two of the same units and 1 unit is able to do twice the cpu calculations in the same time the other does then there is something wrong that your neat tweak guide cannot fix.

LG must use thermal compound

Guys, look at this
This is pathetic results for SD800. And the reason of so low bench results is absence of thermal pad on the SoC.
This was the case with first Nexus 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/hardmod-nexus-4-investigating-thermal-t2144652, the same is with Nexus 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...de-nexus-5s-throttling-solved-adding-t2627714 and the same goes to LGG2.
I mean, when I spend $600+ for expensive phone I want it perform better than competitors' ones, I mean Xperia Z1, Note 3, Xperia Z Ultra. I what my bang for the buck
What do you think? Would you buy G Pro 2 or LG G3 if they will lack thermal grease too?

Benchmarks mean nothing, the phone runs fine and quickly, games play fine at good frame rates, so its pointless doing this.
Transferring heat away from a components thats designed to handle it to a component that isnt is a bad idea. You may not think the screen is getting heated, but there a layers of very insulating glass between you and the LCD, you wont be aware just how warm it is. Heat affects LCDs, in time you might end up with a dark spot where the CPU is.

Billy Madison said:
Guys, look at this
This is pathetic results for SD800. And the reason of so low bench results is absence of thermal pad on the SoC.
This was the case with first Nexus 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/hardmod-nexus-4-investigating-thermal-t2144652, the same is with Nexus 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...de-nexus-5s-throttling-solved-adding-t2627714 and the same goes to LGG2.
I mean, when I spend $600+ for expensive phone I want it perform better than competitors' ones, I mean Xperia Z1, Note 3, Xperia Z Ultra. I what my bang for the buck
What do you think? Would you buy G Pro 2 or LG G3 if they will lack thermal grease too?
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What exactly is the "bang for your buck" that you require? What does the G2 not do for you that the Note 3 or Z1 does that is so crucial to daily life?
Because if it is just benchmarks, then as mentioned above, they mean nothing.

Billy Madison said:
Guys, look at this
This is pathetic results for SD800. And the reason of so low bench results is absence of thermal pad on the SoC.
This was the case with first Nexus 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/hardmod-nexus-4-investigating-thermal-t2144652, the same is with Nexus 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...de-nexus-5s-throttling-solved-adding-t2627714 and the same goes to LGG2.
I mean, when I spend $600+ for expensive phone I want it perform better than competitors' ones, I mean Xperia Z1, Note 3, Xperia Z Ultra. I what my bang for the buck
What do you think? Would you buy G Pro 2 or LG G3 if they will lack thermal grease too?
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not long ago the g2 rocked the benchmarks mwahhaha so there with your thermal grease

bachera said:
not long ago the g2 rocked the benchmarks mwahhaha so there with your thermal grease
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the kk update killed the bench score, i think mine dropped like 10k.

Benchmarks are the worse thing to ever happen to android. You would think that the moto x with its "out of date" specs still running smoother then the s5 would prove once and for all that benchmark scores are pointless. I don't care if the note 3 or s5 put up record breaking omg wtf fml scores...it still lags and mine doesn't! Lol....
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To add to this.... lets say you bought 2 cars. Both cost the same, one car says 700 hp, 0-60 in 3 seconds. The second car has 300 hp, 0-60 in 6 seconds. But once you get on the road, the 300 hp drives better, feels faster in every way and gets much better gas mileage. There's what's on paper, and there's real life.
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bweN diorD said:
the kk update killed the bench score, i think mine dropped like 10k.
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but user experience increased a lot right? ui flluidness/ opening of apps?

mgolder said:
Benchmark d*ck swinging - The rankings equivalent of being the moron who still says 'FIRST' on a comments section
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lol, I dont mind good benchmarks, there just arent any on android that measure fluidness/real life snappyness.
First! after the guy who doesnt like firsts.

bachera said:
but user experience increased a lot right? ui flluidness/ opening of apps?
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i dont see it. my phone was snappy and fluid before the update, its the same now.
as for the benchmark comments. i agree to a degree that they dont mean a lot, but a 25-35% drop seems a bit extreme for an update.
seems like they boosted the benches to boost sales when it was new.

The fluidity and the battery are awesome. I love everything on that phone. Even if LG doesn't keep it updated it will still be one great phone that i own/ed...

bodom_hc said:
Its pathetic you ACTUALLY care about benchmarks, lol.
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I don't care bout benches, I care about what I paid for, and I use, as everyone else does, benches to prove that my item works as intended. Did you hear about lags when doing spherical panoramas? when phone overheats and process too long, longer than it must? It's the same story. Did you hear about "slow focus" in G2? Everybody did. Maybe it partly is because of early frequency drop, maybe not so.
And not only I care for benchmarks, look there http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-jelly-bean-vs-kitkat-benchmark-battle/

Billy Madison said:
I don't care bout benches, I care about what I paid for, and I use, as everyone else does, benches to prove that my item works as intended. Did you hear about lags when doing spherical panoramas? when phone overheats and process too long, longer than it must? It's the same story. Did you hear about "slow focus" in G2? Everybody did. Maybe it partly is because of early frequency drop, maybe not so.
And not only I care for benchmarks, look there http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-jelly-bean-vs-kitkat-benchmark-battle/
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But you didn't pay for a device that guarantees you any particular score in artificially inflated benchmark tests though. No manufacturer will launch a device guaranteeing someone a set score all the time. So what is it that you think you should have that you haven't got now? I thin that is what we can't understand.

mgolder said:
But you didn't pay for a device that guarantees you any particular score in artificially inflated benchmark tests though. No manufacturer will launch a device guaranteeing someone a set score all the time. So what is it that you think you should have that you haven't got now? I thin that is what we can't understand.
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Man, I want it to not lag earlyer than do another smartphones. Did you hear of lags when playing Spiderman 2? I've heard that G2 is not capable of playing this recent new game smoothly, as device with SD800 should. OK I don't play Spiderman2 and did not by to play benchmarks, I only use benchmarks as examples that internally G2, Nexus 4, Nexus 5 do not constructed properly. And as I did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2299888 when I complained of improper color temperatures of G Pro LG reacted and made G2 display perfectly calibrated and on par with HTC One and iPhone 5S. So I think that in future G3 they'll do something with SoC cooling and improve performance when gaming for long time

Billy Madison said:
And not only I care for benchmarks, look there http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-jelly-bean-vs-kitkat-benchmark-battle/
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These things have nothing to do with benchmarks:
Did you hear about lags when doing spherical panoramas?Overheating can be many things, I have yet to find a phone that doesnt overheat sometimes. Usually a clean instal fixes this nicely. Its Android I guess and faulty install scenarios.
It's the same story. Did you hear about "slow focus" in G2? -> slow focus is the automatic focus, press on screen where you want focus and its almost instant. Google camera is pretty good. there are other settings that can tweak this.
That said, benchmarks in my opinion do nothing good for true user experience.
I do believe Android needs to step up on the user experience game as my comments above prove enough that this device, I say all android devices, need to much customization to be perfect. All these workarounds To fix these real issues that some users find anoying, not higher benchmarks are needed.

lol, and does kitkat score less in that? didnt see you post scores once with that nor found your arguments on it.Stop trolling yourself and post some proof then.
so my arguments from that standingpoint still hold.
I also couldnt find it featured on any major android website, wonder why.
the one benchmarktool I dont know, its only got 33 reviews, hardly antutu level. wonder if its representative.
This could be a benchmark that actually does measure some important stuff I am talking about. Interesting. thanks for sharing
omg the downloading is soo slow wow

ok ran the benchmark. but I am not impressed as it benchmarks with its own gui, not the actual phones gui. Also it doesnt benchmark the panorama shots or any camera shots for that matter.
I guess I wasnt wrong after all... sad was hoping big on this benchmarking tool to finally have a representative view of a gui from a user point of view.

People, so upsest with benchmarks, its not like its a gaming computer/server where you squeeze every bit of performance regardless of powerdraw etc, its a phone lol, and its smoother than before KitKat. Xperia Z is a good example of benchmarks vs sucking in real life ex horrible battery life....

bachera said:
ok ran the benchmark. but I am not impressed as it benchmarks with its own gui, not the actual phones gui. Also it doesnt benchmark the panorama shots or any camera shots for that matter.
I guess I wasnt wrong after all... sad was hoping big on this benchmarking tool to finally have a representative view of a gui from a user point of view.
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Well, from the user point of view you should your Gallery scroll, Zoom scroll, list scroll results. The gallery scroll is what fubar in LG's UI. It scores around 35-37FPS, right? But on the Nexus it scores 50-55 fps or near. All other scrolls on LG are pretty near 60 fps, so as on every other smartphone and all right with them. But gallery scroll is bad. Did you use Tapatalk ever? Have you noticed when you try to swipe from right to left to open next page the tapatalk just stagger, hangs for .5sec, and then completes the move? It shouldn't, scroll must be buttery as is in HTC phones
abhinav.tella said:
People, so upsest with benchmarks, its not like its a gaming computer/server where you squeeze every bit of performance regardless of powerdraw etc.
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Check my hwbot prime score it is 1688 and compare to Nexus 5 scores that has same MSM8974A packed in LG box. 2923 points. pretty 50% increase just because of software, huh. Or the next result , 3075

Billy Madison said:
Well, from the user point of view you should your Gallery scroll, Zoom scroll, list scroll results. The gallery scroll is what fubar in LG's UI. It scores around 35-37FPS, right? But on the Nexus it scores 50-55 fps or near. All other scrolls on LG are pretty near 60 fps, so as on every other smartphone and all right with them. But gallery scroll is bad. Did you use Tapatalk ever? Have you noticed when you try to swipe from right to left to open next page the tapatalk just stagger, hangs for .5sec, and then completes the move? It shouldn't, scroll must be buttery as is in HTC phones
Check my hwbot prime score it is 1688 and compare to Nexus 5 scores that has same MSM8974A packed in LG box. 2923 points. pretty 50% increase just because of software, huh. Or the next result , 3075
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OK, since you mentioned it I did that and got 2745 in HBOT Prime which is not too far off from the N5.
As for HTC I agree, since the One X days they have gone pretty far, they are probably best Android manufacturer at Battery/Performance optimization IMO, and Sony is the worst.
My HTC Butterfly (Int DNA) with 2000 mAh battery lasts longer than the Xperia Z (2330 mAh) per charge. Sony Exmor cameras in iPhone and Galaxy S4 perform better than the Z1. At least LG aren't like Sony.

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OK, since you mentioned it I did that and got 2745 in HBOT Prime which is not too far off from the N5.
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So, well, at least it is for me to think over, is it something wrong with my unit or its just my latest ROM with knock code has bad optimization, and it will be improved in future. Or, maybe, my PVS of 3 has to do with too early heating of SoC than yours CPU. Maybe you have PVS of 0 or 1

Change your nexus 6 Resolution too 1080x1920

I found this on YouTube and its a pretty good mod. You don't even see any difference.
Boost Nexus 6 Performance & Battery Life by Lowering the Resolution [How...: http://youtu.be/9HREkRpPVa4

I'll take the hit on battery life for a higher resolution. That's part of the reason why this phone is so great.

dave2metz said:
I'll take the hit on battery life for a higher resolution. That's part of the reason why this phone is so great.
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I feel you..... but serious tho you can't see no difference at all.

Sounds interesting, might give this a try.

Have you seen a noticeable difference in battery life? If this would give an extra hour or two at least, I could see doing it. If it's only a few extra mins, maybe not. Guess it can't hurt to try.

Nothing for battery time but here are some AnTuTu tests.
2d and 3d results, Nexus 6 stock, rooted, unencrypted 5.01.
Ran AnTuTu before making the change...
2d - 1596
3d - 16910 (2560x1440)
Made the change and ran again...
2d - 1636
3d - 20004 (1920x1080)
Changed back to stock and ran again...
2d - 1636
3d - 16303 (2560x1440)

I suspect that it would actually be more clear at 1280x720. Reason is that this is precisely the half-way point, which means that one "virtual" pixel takes up 2pixelsX2pixels on the physical screen. At 1920x1080, you're somewhere in between, which means that pixel boundaries won't line up to real pixels.
1280x720 also is the "full" resolution for one direction of the RGBG subpixel matrix.

tcrews said:
Nothing for battery time but here are some AnTuTu tests.
2d and 3d results, Nexus 6 stock, rooted, unencrypted 5.01.
Ran AnTuTu before making the change...
2d - 1596
3d - 16910 (2560x1440)
Made the change and ran again...
2d - 1636
3d - 20004 (1920x1080)
Changed back to stock and ran again...
2d - 1636
3d - 16303 (2560x1440)
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That's sad. I got 51590 on antutu, stock decrypted

wmfreak said:
That's sad. I got 51590 on antutu, stock decrypted
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Not really.
I've gotten 52574, 52140 and 52083 all stock, decrypted for the full score just randomly running AnTuTu full test.
I just pulled out my phone today, ran the test and reported the 2d and 3d numbers only.
My full scores today were.
Initial - 51180
change - 54067
back to stock - 49606
These were all run back to back and the phone was getting warmer so that may be why the score dropped as much as it did for the final run. All runs previous to today have been in the 52,000+ range.

I changed mine to 1280x720, with a density of 320. It looks pretty good, with some minor graphical issues. At normal resolution 3d is around 17k.
2d: 1629
3d: 21205

I'll wait for your guys testing on battery life

Nice. gotta try it.

When my phone is sitting idle my GPU spends most of its time at 240 MHz, instead of 300 MHz at stock resolution. I don't know that this will save much battery as our 805's don't struggle with 1440p like the snap dragon 801 does. My wife's S5 would probably benefit from this more as it is fairly easy to bog down.
I'm having video player stuttering and pausing while trying to play 4k video that I recorded with the phone. I also noticed while navigating today that the phone didn't get as hot as it normally did, but there's a whole lot of variables that can affect that. Just some observations, I'll see how this works out tomorrow as far as battery life on a typical day.

No battery life yet eh?
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From the poster of the video
Anything's possible with root! But to be clear, this doesn't change the fact that your phone still has to power the extra pixels (because they're still physically there), it only helps with your GPU in that it doesn't have to process the extra pixels. But less processing generally equals less battery drain and smoother performance, and every little bit helps.
So basically sounds like battery life gains are going be very marginal at best.

Device looks like crappy with 1080p density 420. Icons looks like samsung s3. If you want that, go buy a S3

fethi2 said:
Device looks like crappy with 1080p density 420. Icons looks like samsung s3. If you want that, go buy a S3
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I disagree with your statement, I don't see a difference at all

venturizhou said:
From the poster of the video
Anything's possible with root! But to be clear, this doesn't change the fact that your phone still has to power the extra pixels (because they're still physically there), it only helps with your GPU in that it doesn't have to process the extra pixels. But less processing generally equals less battery drain and smoother performance, and every little bit helps.
So basically sounds like battery life gains are going be very marginal at best.
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Pure snake oil. Changing resolution does nothing. Your display/GPU is still having to draw all images at its native resolution regardless of what you set it to. Unless you picture box the screen some how so the processor isn't having to draw a full screen, this will have no effect on battery.
In fact, assuming the GPU does process the image at 1080 first, it is having to process it again to make it fit the 1440 screen. Stands to reason that would cost you battery life.

mr pnut said:
I feel you..... but serious tho you can't see no difference at all.
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But serious though...the difference in battery life is most-likely extremely negligible.
The display is still pushing power to all of the pixels...the only battery you're saving is the CPU working slightly harder to create higher-resolution outputs. This is about the same as changing the CPU frequency to like 5% less than normal...you might gain another ~15 minutes of screen on-time.

I had the wonderful sensor Ind wake lock today, so battery life definitely sucked. I'm hitting 5 hours SOT with 15% left as I type this. That's about 1.5 hours SOT shy of an average day with no wake lock issues and 1440p. As we all knew battery life would get at best a very minor bump with this, the screen is still lighting all the pixels after all. Oh well, it was worth trying out, but if Google would just fix these dam wake locks it would save many of us a ton of battery life! Back to beautiful 1440p

My battery life is amazing

I'm not sure if I'm lucky but 6 hours on screen time and just under 40% is great in my book. I'm on the Sprint variant I have my phone on max brightness, sync and location always on as well.
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What you do all the time reading pdf or something ? It shouldnt be web browsing or gaming
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miyuru4u said:
What you do all the time reading pdf or something ? It shouldnt be web browsing or gaming
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YouTube, reading, facebooking, listening to music, checking email. Basically just general use for me to be honest
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yeah that Sprint update made this phone bomb

well lucky you..
^this is with all of the LG bloatware deleted/disabled - fixed brightness at 65%
GPS/NFC/Bluetooth never on, use standard apps like viber, facebook, chrome
don't watch youtube videos..

Not getting that sort of SOT but this has been the best phone I've owned battery wise. Don't feel compelled to plug it in outside of bedtime.

kangta05 said:
YouTube, reading, facebooking, listening to music, checking email. Basically just general use for me to be honest
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Yeah thats great specally 100% brightness.. I can easily go for 4 and half SOT with 75% brigtness wifi gps on using taptalk and skype viber and bat is left 30% .. I think this phone is awsome i came from nexus 5 and i am reallly happy
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My battery life is terrible. After upgrading from an S3 and watching my partner's M8 and Z3 be ****ing battery tanks this is very disappointing. ~2-3 hours SOT is comparable to the S3 I came from, and meanwhile the Z3 is at 70% battery with 3 hours SOT *with* everything turned on and not debloated. Though admittedly, this phone is wonderful in every other way so it's hard to stay mad.... Just the occasional sad stab of battery anxiety/jealousy every once and a bit. I've only had the phone a week though, so that feeling should hopefully fade.
#firstwoldproblems

Usraek said:
My battery life is terrible. After upgrading from an S3 and watching my partner's M8 and Z3 be ****ing battery tanks this is very disappointing. ~2-3 hours SOT is comparable to the S3 I came from, and meanwhile the Z3 is at 70% battery with 3 hours SOT *with* everything turned on and not debloated. Though admittedly, this phone is wonderful in every other way so it's hard to stay mad.... Just the occasional sad stab of battery anxiety/jealousy every once and a bit. I've only had the phone a week though, so that feeling should hopefully fade.
#firstwoldproblems
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I'm not sure if you did factory reset after when you first bought the phone, but it def helps in my case. ( I did 2 or 3 time factory, don't do the setup yet, just keep doing factory reset once the phone boot-up). I get from 2 hour SOT, to about 4-5 hour SOT with 5% left at the end of my day with the same setup as when i first setup.
PS: don't do restore apps, just do clean install all your apps and settings.

Usraek said:
My battery life is terrible. After upgrading from an S3 and watching my partner's M8 and Z3 be ****ing battery tanks this is very disappointing. ~2-3 hours SOT is comparable to the S3 I came from, and meanwhile the Z3 is at 70% battery with 3 hours SOT *with* everything turned on and not debloated.
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Both 1080p screens
I wish LG could have stuck with that.
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dumb4ever said:
I'm not sure if you did factory reset after when you first bought the phone, but it def helps in my case. ( I did 2 or 3 time factory, don't do the setup yet, just keep doing factory reset once the phone boot-up). I get from 2 hour SOT, to about 4-5 hour SOT with 5% left at the end of my day with the same setup as when i first setup.
PS: don't do restore apps, just do clean install all your apps and settings.
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How does a factory reset double SOT for what is essentially a new phone ?

Wow quite interesting
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I Yeah, I did two factory resets when I got it because I accidentally auto-synced my Google crap, so it's all fresh.
This was just a small frustrated vent. This is my only upgrade since my S3 and it wasn't really by choice as I had to change carriers but this phone is the best option currently available (the other one on my list being the S5, cuz battery and sd card). Meanwhile my partner has hopped from a Note 2 to a HTC M8 to now a Sony Z3, and I watched the amazing all day do-whatever-the-****-you-want battery life and figured that more flagships would be like that... Instead there's this disappointing as hell battery life that isn't much better than what I had and I still need to watch what I do so I'm constrained in the same way lest it craps out midday.
So while this phone is amazing as hell, with many great features, it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I could return it and get an S5 but what a downgrade. Not really any other options with removable storage and battery. At least I can hope root with help improve some battery life, and it will certainly fix the ****ty DPI. Also hoping for a slim Zerolemon battery with higher capacity to come eventually.
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Both 1080p screens
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Yeah, I'm aware, and pretty terrible looking ones at that IMO. This LG screen is gorgeous and one of the few that don't look like complete ass next to an AMOLED. Shame about the DPI though, but that will come!
On a side note, I fell into a laptop with a 3k screen a couple weeks ago, and I'm really enjoying high-resolution information dense crisp screens.

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Shame about the DPI though, but that will come!
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I don't get this DPI thing. You want to reduce the DPI so it looks better

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I don't get this DPI thing. You want to reduce the DPI so it looks better
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Well we've got this glorious beautiful hi-res screen but the Gmail app can fit 6 lines, whereas on my S3 (with tweaked DPI) on the 720p screen I could have 10 lines and it was amazing. Not to mention I have smaller hands so I can adjust the DPI on my keyboard to have it take less screen space, making it easier to use with one hand, while at the same time being able to view more if my browser or texts or whatever. It's quite wonderful to be able to choose per-app DPI for different usage.

Lowering DPI which is what was being recommended in that DPi thread, gives you more text to view ?
The thing i dont understand is increasing resolution raises DPI. So lowering DPI reduces resolution. Things become bigger when you lower resolution. You can fit less within the screen in that case.
You can't raise the DPI because its already at its max. So other than reducing font size i don't understand how 'tweaking' DPi fits more in the window.

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Lowering DPI which is what was being recommended in that DPi thread, gives you more text to view ?
The thing i dont understand is increasing resolution raises DPI. So lowering DPI reduces resolution. Things become bigger when you lower resolution. You can fit less within the screen in that case.
You can't raise the DPI because its already at its max. So other than reducing font size i don't understand how 'tweaking' DPi fits more in the window.
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You're conflating DPI with resolution. The resolution is the overall amount of pixels the screen displays, like a canvas, and when you set it lower everything looks bigger but you have less room to fit things overall as icon sizes and text haven't changed. Setting your screen to anything but native resolution in most cases also makes things look worse off, depending on how well your screen scales and how low you go, it gets blurrier and blurrier.
Having a high resolution is like have a massive canvas to work with, you can fit many many things sized smaller on there. Now it can make everything appear too small, so that's where DPI scaling comes in. You need higher resolution icon and things programmed to scale otherwise when you zoom them they get blurry (like a 480p video on a 1080p screen). You can zoom too much though, leaving all that extra lovely canvas space you're screen is capable of filled up. That's what LG did, or you can zoom them out and the higher resolution you have the more you can zoom things out and have them still legible. LG zoomed everything in way too much wasting a lot of potential screen real estate. Sure it's crisp and nice, but I may as well have a 1080p phone. I want to zoom it out, while keeping the resolution, so it all stays crisp.
Sorry if that's a bit messy, I'm thinking of Windows desktop icons as I type this. Haha
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Android apps are set to scale to whatever the manufacturer deems correct, so we have these giant FisherPrice apps with massive buttons and icons taking up half the screen. Browsing the web though is beautiful so far on here though.
(There's also ppi/dpi like when Apple talks their Retina crap, but that's how many physical pixels your screen has crammed into what sized space. We're talking software DPI)
(And the DPI in the other thread is global scaling of everything smaller and has it's share of problems. Per-app DPI using Xposed is where it's at as you can have each setting independent in case problems like crashing arise, or you just don't need something smaller)

OP, are you sure you don't have auto brightness on and set to 100%? Either way you have amazing battery life. 3.5 to 4hr sot is usually the norm for me without gaming. Usual calls, web, txt, email, tapatalk, some youtube

I agree, I've had all HTC devices (currently also have an M9) and I can't get this phone to dye. Lol going on 12 hours of heavy usage with 14% still. Very satisfied with this.
Sent From My LG G4

My G4 is an AT&T variant and the stand by Bayer life is amazing. Off the charger yesterday at 6AM used it maybe 5 or 6 times for quick peaks at Email or a random notification and noticed at 1 pm battery was still at 100%. Art 5pm with fairly light usage I was down to 93%. It's one week old and I usually turn off unnecessary notifications like Facebook or youtube etc. The only App that was disabled was drivemode, and brightness on Auto. Even under moderate usage I'm a embedding a 12 hour work/travel day at 80%. I don't Minnie about you guys but this is fantastic to me. It seems to me with this phone it really powers down when resting on standby.
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I Yeah, I did two factory resets when I got it because I accidentally auto-synced my Google crap, so it's all fresh.
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Restoring from phone to phone or from ROM to ROM has always introduced problems for me. Setting things up as a new device produces noticeably better results. That "feature" does not work as well as intended.

Positivity For the 990

Whilst I am NOT defending Samsung and believe there is much to be improved, I do have the Mi 10 Pro with the Snapdragon 865 for a reference point. The Mi 10 Pro as you will be aware runs at 90hz and for me and my observations battery life is comparable and I'm running the ultra at 120hz.
As for performance & heat issues I decided to play an hour of PubG on the Ultra and another hour on the Mi 10 and again maybe slightly more heat on the Exynos but nothing to worry me personally. I can't say I noticed a difference in Gameplay but didn't run side by side or done a FPS count, that aspect I guess the 865 would lead, but I didn't have any issues on the Ultra in terms of playability.
I do recommend Samsung take notice and use ARM architecture on the Exynos 1000, and hope that this will resolve the complaints.
Maybe I got lucky with my chip, but honestly I can't complain as I'm not experiencing the issues that seem to plauge others.
Just showing and sharing my experience whist not defending the 990 entirely......:good:

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Whilst I am NOT defending Samsung and believe there is much to be improved, I do have the Mi 10 Pro with the Snapdragon 865 for a reference point. The Mi 10 Pro as you will be aware runs at 90hz and for me and my observations battery life is comparable and I'm running the ultra at 120hz.
As for performance & heat issues I decided to play an hour of PubG on the Ultra and another hour on the Mi 10 and again maybe slightly more heat on the Exynos but nothing to worry me personally. I can't say I noticed a difference in Gameplay but didn't run side by side or done a FPS count, that aspect I guess the 865 would lead, but I didn't have any issues on the Ultra in terms of playability.
I do recommend Samsung take notice and use ARM architecture on the Exynos 1000, and hope that this will resolve the complaints.
Maybe I got lucky with my chip, but honestly I can't complain as I'm not experiencing the issues that seem to plauge others.
Just showing and sharing my experience whist not defending the 990 entirely......:good:
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Aswell as i.Same i didn't notice any issue.
Me too i don't deffend Samsung.But it is cruical that customer don't have any issues.
Put in side fps variation in games or better score in antutu it just isn't necessery for regular customer.He will not notice it.
I played games,record 4k 60fp 8k videos absolutley everyting also played games on charger because i wanted to know it there is any issue with thermal throtling or anything else.
And for camera with every update is better as well as battery life.I'm satisfied with my S20 Ultra Exynosm Brutal camera btw and brutal zoom
This is mine opinion after almost month with my phone.
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Also i updated myself camera app from 10.0.02.7 to 10.0.03.4 and its superfast shuter and auto focus.Overall its much much better.

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Whilst I am NOT defending Samsung and believe there is much to be improved, I do have the Mi 10 Pro with the Snapdragon 865 for a reference point. The Mi 10 Pro as you will be aware runs at 90hz and for me and my observations battery life is comparable and I'm running the ultra at 120hz.
As for performance & heat issues I decided to play an hour of PubG on the Ultra and another hour on the Mi 10 and again maybe slightly more heat on the Exynos but nothing to worry me personally. I can't say I noticed a difference in Gameplay but didn't run side by side or done a FPS count, that aspect I guess the 865 would lead, but I didn't have any issues on the Ultra in terms of playability.
I do recommend Samsung take notice and use ARM architecture on the Exynos 1000, and hope that this will resolve the complaints.
Maybe I got lucky with my chip, but honestly I can't complain as I'm not experiencing the issues that seem to plauge others.
Just showing and sharing my experience whist not defending the 990 entirely......:good:
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Same here.. i didn't notice any issue except focus.... Samsung has improved something since the last update, but it's not so good as it should be...S20U exynos... [emoji106]

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Same here.. i didn't notice any issue except focus.... Samsung has improved something since the last update, but it's not so good as it should be...S20U exynos... [emoji106]
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Yeah I get the argument between performance of the 865 vs 990 and same price point. All I am saying is that I have seen threads saying the Cameras are Garbage, they really aren't, but yes should be better (Autofocus) which has improved for me.
The phone heats up, well I play long sessions of PubG and haven't noticed anything erratic.
I'm not debating the 990, I would also prefer the 865, but I'm most certainly not experiencing ALL of the aforementioned complaints in regards to this SOC.

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Yeah I get the argument between performance of the 865 vs 990 and same price point. All I am saying is that I have seen threads saying the Cameras are Garbage, they really aren't, but yes should be better (Autofocus) which has improved for me.
The phone heats up, well I play long sessions of PubG and haven't noticed anything erratic.
I'm not debating the 990, I would also prefer the 865, but I'm most certainly not experiencing ALL of the aforementioned complaints in regards to this SOC.
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I forgot something.Last year i had S10 plus exynos.Battery was garbage so i traded it for snapdragon version.It was better.But after fev weeks battery on exynos improved as well.And i notice that internet on my snap is slow.(Sim internet)And i tested it my friend he has galaxy s8 exynos and my s10 plus snap.We opened ookla test he got about 80mb/s i got about 25.we are on same carrier.I tryed couple of times again and i didn't got anytime above 30 so.for everyone that eant snap keep in mind this.Lower badwith as well as singal reception because we are in Europe which uses diffrent signal.One are on GSM another on CDMA.

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Yeah I get the argument between performance of the 865 vs 990 and same price point. All I am saying is that I have seen threads saying the Cameras are Garbage, they really aren't, but yes should be better (Autofocus) which has improved for me.
The phone heats up, well I play long sessions of PubG and haven't noticed anything erratic.
I'm not debating the 990, I would also prefer the 865, but I'm most certainly not experiencing ALL of the aforementioned complaints in regards to this SOC.
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Don't have a device with SD to compare....all those issue that are mentioned i see on Youtube or read on various pages ... those 20% better in performance that are displayed on various benchmark tests in favor of SD processors i don't even notice in everyday use ... such tests mean nothing to me .... still my device with exynos that i use is super fast in any sense, smooth, etc....

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Don't have a device with SD to compare....all those issue that are mentioned i see on Youtube or read on various pages ... those 20% better in performance that are displayed on various benchmark tests in favor of SD processors i don't even notice in everyday use ... such tests mean nothing to me .... still my device with exynos that i use is super fast in any sense, smooth, etc....
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There's a custom recovery now. Soon we'll see custom roms and kernels and both should improve performance/battery life for the exynos. Some, if not all SD will be stuck with Samsung updates forever..

Is there a way to install system apks like camera unrooted?

Personally i play pubg like 3 to 4 hours on one single time with my friends, framerates never drops and the phone is not hot like burning hot, its hot but normal.. as a référence i have thé iphone 11pro max heats more than my phone actually so i think its good..

Guys with positive feedback about exynos, where do you live? I live in Saudi and currently it's the best weather we had this year, and room temperature is 24°and my phone get warm during casual tasks and heats up really bad and drop frames while gaming (all of this while I'm on Wi-Fi), when I turn LTE it is much worse and much warmer, when I turn 5G it stay up for few minutes then heat up then fall back to 4G (I have excellent 5G and 4G signal)

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Is there a way to install system apks like camera unrooted?
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I'm so tired of people falsely claiming exynos is fine in gaming.
You can see a lot of video proofs on YouTube that exynos is trash for gaming and there's no way it can maintain 60fps in pubg mobile for extended playing sessions
If you can't tell the difference between stable 60fps and frequent drop to 40fps it's your problem, don't say it's fine.
At this point I really want someone show me a video proof of exynos running pubg mobile at 60fps for 1 hour. Then I can shut my fxxk up. But until now I see none.

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Personally i play pubg like 3 to 4 hours on one single time with my friends, framerates never drops and the phone is not hot like burning hot, its hot but normal.. as a référence i have thé iphone 11pro max heats more than my phone actually so i think its good..
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Same. The pro max also reduces brightness by 50%

Tbh, the s series is not a gaming phone. Get a gaming phone for gaming.
There is more to life than gaming. There is no perfect phones out there. Each has its unique qualities.
Gaming phones don't take photo well.
To this date samsung phones, at least s and note series is a well balanced phone. Not the best on gaming, photos, ui.. But it's well balanced and do each rather well.
Not to mention the dual messenger and excellent audio it can reproduce.. If you have a decent headset. The adaptive sound is perfect when tuned using the headset of your choice and I have several.. And a profile set for each device. When i change i change the profile.
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vash_h said:
Tbh, the s series is not a gaming phone. Get a gaming phone for gaming.
There is more to life than gaming. There is no perfect phones out there. Each has its unique qualities.
Gaming phones don't take photo well.
To this date samsung phones, at least s and note series is a well balanced phone. Not the best on gaming, photos, ui.. But it's well balanced and do each rather well.
Not to mention the dual messenger and excellent audio it can reproduce.. If you have a decent headset. The adaptive sound is perfect when tuned using the headset of your choice and I have several.. And a profile set for each device. When i change i change the profile.
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cant agree with you on audio i too have a few very good pairs of headsets and audio on this compared to other phones some that are alot cheaper is not good the dolby is well below par if you listen to devices with dolby like motorola or sony they have far superior sound just in my opinion

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Guys with positive feedback about exynos, where do you live? I live in Saudi and currently it's the best weather we had this year, and room temperature is 24°and my phone get warm during casual tasks and heats up really bad and drop frames while gaming (all of this while I'm on Wi-Fi), when I turn LTE it is much worse and much warmer, when I turn 5G it stay up for few minutes then heat up then fall back to 4G (I have excellent 5G and 4G signal)
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I am also in Saudi Arabia, the phone is not too bad on WiFi, but when I use LTE OMG , phone become like heater , I think Samsung has to do something for this heat.

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cant agree with you on audio i too have a few very good pairs of headsets and audio on this compared to other phones some that are alot cheaper is not good the dolby is well below par if you listen to devices with dolby like motorola or sony they have far superior sound just in my opinion
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True.. There is better devices for audio but its still not bad..
Just saying it's an all rounder phone.
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I am also in Saudi Arabia, the phone is not too bad on WiFi, but when I use LTE OMG , phone become like heater , I think Samsung has to do something for this heat.
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When I was in saudi, yanbu, the phone is hot as heck probably due to the constant search for better network.
Was in mobifly or mobily or something like that.
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