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My First impressions with XXKPA

As I always say noobs like me read this, who are interested to how is Samsung progressing towards ICS, anyone thinks himself beyond noob or attracted to non TW ROM's please save your time.
Some points I am skipping atm, because they are same as KP8, read that aside it if you wanna,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421269&highlight=my+first+impressions
• Last time I said regarding KP8 that it was hell of a lot better, now I've to say it again, much better than previous KP8, and more stable of course.
• Phone calls were great, loud enough earpiece volume. Noise reduction is present usually.
• Vibration intesity is same as GB, which is great, and believe me or not RT volumes seems louder than before , by before I mean GB!
• Incoming call UI is same as before, answer/reject sliding animations still don't work!
• Phone signal is solid, stable. 3G working fine, same goes for WiFi and BT.
• Stock browser is just getting better and better, smooth, some guys will definitely hate the new elastic type scrolling, I kinda like it, sites went well with flash, pinch to zoom smooth as hell, no lag in any place. Brilliant all over. No Exit button still.
If I am not wrong then download support for all types of files is now present, tried with some different files, all was well. Need more feedbacks on this though.
• All the TW widgets are same as before, so not wasting time saying here again.
• 480x800 wallpapers are working fine, finally, which is a big relief for me. LWP works fine too, but not smooth as GB, some lags here and there.
• Market and downloading works fine. Download GO launcher and used it as default, no problem.
• Camera and Video recorder works all fine.
• Lockscreen ICS lock is still looks weird. Just swiping the screen unlocks the device!, don't know what's the point of ICS lock icon then.
• Swype is here Version 3.2.92 and it works great as usual.
• GPS lock is fine.
• YouTube videos plated well, but some lags are there.
• 1080P MKV files ran with audio, lag is prominent, so if someone watches HD videos regularly then it will be a PITA.
Tried MX- Little better than Stock, still not watchable
• Unread SMS icon is same as before (KP8). Missed call icon is finally here in LS. See attachments.
• Connection with PC worked at first time.
• Believe me or not phone Shut down time was damn fast, less than 5 seconds.
• Used it for 90+ minutes and there was no FC! Some lags are here and there, but not a single FC with any app.
• Mobile Odin worked before flashing and after rooting with CF it worked again. SU and CWM is there as usual.
• Allover UI smoothness was great IMO.
• Developer Options are present there as usual.
• FM radio works fine.
• Copy/Paste pop up UI has been changed in whole system, it is there at the top for both landscape and portrait.
• Bookmarks menu changed in Stock browser.
• Touch keys don't light up.
• There is no more additional/permanent Vibrate icon in taskbar anymore, doesn't matter of Vibration is enabled in your device or not. Many people would like this old feature I guess
• Face Unlock doesn't work.
••• All I can say I am way impressed with this ROM, almost all the needed features are present and working fine, which is always the most important part other than giving some great stuffs and taking away some common features and those nuisance, if this has been released by some other developers then XDA would have populate them like hell. TW bashers will still bash this I am sure, but doesn't matter because it looks pretty cool with ICS, so bad news for TW trollers.
You can definitely use this ROM as daily use, that I can say.
I am going back to my Nandroid as I always stay on finished/official stuffs, but it was a great experience for sure.
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Well i have to say that i had the phone connected with USB and after 1 hour i tried to open it by pressing the hard key and nothing happened so i did hard reboot and when i booted the battery was from 50% to 10%
Not to mention that my soft keys don't light up when i press them but they work.
Also the TWLacunher is way too laggy!

Thanks for the impressions! Judging by the progress Samsung is making they will most likely make their Q1 deadline
Props to Samsung, and kudos to Sammobile for getting us this firmware.
Haters gonna hate.

Thank you for testing for me.
Have just downloaded the cwm packaged rom. Will flash now.

to exit the browser go into the windows/bookmarks menu and click X on all opened windows , then the browser closes itself.
this feature isn't available in gingerbread firmwares

Does FM Radio work on this leak?

To be honest, I'm started to think that Sammy will leave that TW theme to official ICS release, I mean that crappy green bar at RAM Status(and also in other menus), that notification bar, also, why they just can't do same lock screen as on Nexus with other icons, are they wanna keep old lock screen without any functionality ;/
Damn, they should completely redesign that TouchWiz to a new look, without that cartoonish icons and overall look. ICS is not only a new version of OS, it's totally new design too.
Great overview by the way.

regarding the 1080p playback
what's the point of watching a 1920x1080 resolution movie on a 800x480 resolution screen ?
Even though it's a bit laggy now it doesn't quite matter to me. Who transfers 8 gb movies on his phone ?

Did you get chance to try the FM radio, does it work?

Trying Wanam's XXKPA build right now! I'll report back!

myshu said:
regarding the 1080p playback
what's the point of watching a 1920x1080 resolution movie on a 800x480 resolution screen ?
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The phone's MHL port lets you output the movie to an external display

Thorough overview, many thanks.
Looks promising but I'm going to wait. My current setup (krinyo's SlimROM,) is bug-free and perfect for my needs. Plus I'll need a monochrome theme, a dealbreaker for me.
Will probably try it one week before I buy the SGS3...

diggedy said:
Did you get chance to try the FM radio, does it work?
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FM working perfectly fine.
myshu said:
regarding the 1080p playback
what's the point of watching a 1920x1080 resolution movie on a 800x480 resolution screen ?
Even though it's a bit laggy now it doesn't quite matter to me. Who transfers 8 gb movies on his phone ?
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I agree with you. But 1080p played fine before, so it should work as before, will definitely be fixed in final release I am sure.
I am still on this ROM, really nice experience.

ithehappy said:
FM working perfectly fine.
I agree with you. But 1080p played fine before, so it should work as before, will definitely be fixed in final release I am sure.
I am still on this ROM, really nice experience.
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hmm, then this might be the first ICS rom for me

Weird - still cannot resize the widgets. T__T

a1exander said:
Trying Wanam's XXKPA build right now! I'll report back!
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Atleast one x10'er here
I will also try this ICS after testing a new recovery by a dev(its a secret)

I found the xxkp8 any better. I find that have deteriorated too much to the small details

At first, the phone signal is green at my phone, it has never been green before!
Next thing is, contacts crashed also the browser and Maps does!
I hope the alarm is working properly, else i will oversleep tomorrow.

Thnx for your test and coloured pros and cons

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CyanogenMod 10.2.1.x - GT-I9195 - Stable/Nightlies - Bug Reports & Discussion

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*UPDATE: Both the Galaxy S4 Mini LTE and international 3G variants now have official STABLE releases on CM10.2.1.x! Get them at http://get.cm/?device=serranoltexx and http://get.cm/?device=serrano3gxx respectively.​
This thread is to discuss any issues you may have or bug reports to raise regarding the CM10.2.1 nightlies AND stable versions for the Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini LTE variant (GT-I9195) only.
Opened this thread so that newbies can also post their issues here, as well as to keep the release thread clean for development-related discussions only.
** DO NOT USE THE JIRA BUG TRACKER TO REPORT BUGS FOR NIGHTLIES!
Nightlies changelog
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Links
Release thread / Development discussion | CyanogenMod 10.2
How to install CM10.2
Root and install using ONLY CWM recovery (available here: [RECOVERY][ROOT] Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini LTE (GT-I9195))
Copy all the files you downloaded for CM10.2 (From http://get.cm/?device=serranoltexx) into your SD card along with the Google Applications (Optional, recommended - get the latest one for CM10.2.x)
Boot into CWM (Vol Up + Home just as the phone is booting up, navigate using Vol btns, HOME to select, POWER to back)
Make a backup of your NANDroid (Optional - Do this if you wish to return to your previous ROM)
Select "wipe data/factory reset" and press Yes
Select wipe cache partition" and press Yes
Flash cm-10.2-2013xxxx-XXX-serranoltexx.zip file FIRST (or RC or stable)
Then flash gapps (Optional, recommended)
Notes
When upgrading between CM versions, you still need to flash the gapps module after upgrading as /system is wiped.
Notes about updating to latest stock FW before flashing custom ROMs
Screenshot is Vol-Down + Home in CM
The ROM comes with a Superuser app. You don't need to install another one.
When installing themes which appear to be improperly compiled, apply the default system theme and reboot and try again.
CM doesn't come with a IR Remote app.
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It would help greatly to be detailed in your bug reports and to provide logs (in [code][/code] blocks), in an organised manner.
LIST OF ISSUES
Unverified
Camera doesn't work / HDR crashes camera [1] [2] [3]
Screen Mirroring not fully working [1]
Unable to turn volume down in call [1] [2]
Charger: screen does not turn off when power button short-pressed [1]
Verified & Reproduced / Work-in-Progress
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Fixed / In coming build
Unable to use WiFi Tethering [1] [2] - Fixed 20131015
OpenGL ES 3 does not work - New Adreno drivers cause graphical glitches, using CM10.1 drivers in the meantime - [Added 9 Oct]
Text and Background colours are both white in date picker for birthday in People [1] - [Fixed]
User-fixable
none yet
Unable to reproduce / Unique to certain users / Unable to fix / Kernel issue
Missing 4.3 feature: "App Ops" [1] - CM merged it with Privacy Guard
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FEATURE REQUESTS
Requests
Display Calibration
Button Lights Notification (BLN) kernel support
USB-OTG, MHL kernel support [1]
Accepted (being/will be worked on in the future)
BLN (Back-Light Notification) Kernel (may have changes.)
FM Radio - Included in nightly 20131009
Rejected
Quick Toggles to be equally spaced to fill entire width of screen - Cannot be done
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Last updated: 31 Oct 2013, 1821hrs (+8GMT)

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4.3 should have this new feature called app ops? Can't find it in the settings. Also reporting that both back amd front camera work, but theres some issue with the hdr option. Enabling hdr caused camera to not connect, worked after reboot.

leripe said:
4.3 should have this new feature called app ops? Can't find it in the settings. Also reporting that both back amd front camera work, but theres some issue with the hdr option. Enabling hdr caused camera to not connect, worked after reboot.
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app ops: settings -> security -> privacy guard
same location it was in cm 10.1
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labbe- said:
app ops: settings -> security -> privacy guard
same location it was in cm 10.1
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App ops is different than privacy guard.
Edit: I mean these settings:
www.androidpolice.com/2013/07/25/ap...ager-control-permissions-for-individual-apps/
Had them on my zte blade 3 4.3rom, it was nice to be able to disable certain app behaviors.

leripe said:
App ops is different than privacy guard.
Edit: I mean these settings:
www.androidpolice.com/2013/07/25/ap...ager-control-permissions-for-individual-apps/
Had them on my zte blade 3 4.3rom, it was nice to be able to disable certain app behaviors.
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did you check the privacy guard? if you did, that is excactly what you would have found there. just saying. CM merged the google app ops to their privacy guard

labbe- said:
did you check the privacy guard? if you did, that is excactly what you would have found there. just saying. CM merged the google app ops to their privacy guard
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Oh, didn't try long pressing

Hi. I think cm10.2 should have the display settings from cm10.1.3 such as screen temperature and mode etc that 2 really nice. And please add a hot - plugging feature to the kernel, saves loads of battery!
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iKlutz said:
Hi. I think cm10.2 should have the display settings from cm10.1.3 such as screen temperature and mode etc that 2 really nice. And please add a hot - plugging feature to the kernel, saves loads of battery!
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Hi,
yeah i agree, the only thing missing for me is the screen calibration feature! would be awesome if you could include that arco!
Thanks
// just an addition. i am half way through the day and i had to observe some massive battery drain issues. usually by this time i would have 75% battery left, but since cm10.2 its already down to 52%. better battery stats doesnt give me much, seems like the rom is just.. consuming a lot more energy.
i'll monitor the stats further but i wanted to ask, does anybody else face this problem?

Nimdastas said:
Hi,
yeah i agree, the only thing missing for me is the screen calibration feature! would be awesome if you could include that arco!
Thanks
// just an addition. i am half way through the day and i had to observe some massive battery drain issues. usually by this time i would have 75% battery left, but since cm10.2 its already down to 52%. better battery stats doesnt give me much, seems like the rom is just.. consuming a lot more energy.
i'll monitor the stats further but i wanted to ask, does anybody else face this problem?
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No battery drain and no other problems with cm10.2
The IR also works very well.
So far, so good..
Well done Sir Arco!! THX

Reporting that FM radio also works with Spirit FM
Headphones must be plugged in as it functions as an antenna.
Settings in Spirit FM:
BAND - World 200khz (This might not be the same for you)
AUDIO - METHOD MODE (DigitalXL/ONE/S)
UI - RDS: (ON)
AF - AF MODE: RDS+Region
DEBUG - FM CHIP: (QC V4L HTC) & Motorola FW Load: (HCI)
The rest is default.

Not sure whether it's supposed to be so but tiles/toggles in notification drawer are not perfectly aligned as it used be in CM 10.1.X, so if you decide to have 6 toggles/tiles you end up seeing 5 full toggles/tiles and one half of the sixth one
Attached please find examples of 6 and 5 toggles - in both situation it does not look good.

jemeljsh said:
Not sure whether it's supposed to be so but tiles/toggles in notification drawer are not perfectly aligned as it used be in CM 10.1.X, so if you decide to have 6 toggles/tiles you end up seeing 5 full toggles/tiles and one half of the sixth one
Attached please find examples of 6 and 5 toggles - in both situation it does not look good.
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I find this very annoying too, but I think it's a general cm10.2 "problem". I would want it to scale up or down to fit either 5 or 6 toggles, not 5.5.

jemeljsh said:
Not sure whether it's supposed to be so but tiles/toggles in notification drawer are not perfectly aligned as it used be in CM 10.1.X, so if you decide to have 6 toggles/tiles you end up seeing 5 full toggles/tiles and one half of the sixth one
Attached please find examples of 6 and 5 toggles - in both situation it does not look good.
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I think you're supposed to swype on it, like you do on Samsung stock rom.

Hi,
Concerning battery drain, a reboot and optimizing the apps seems to have fixed the problem!
Back to awesome battery life
Just the screen calibration missing now.
Thanks

arco68 said:
I think you're supposed to swype on it, like you do on Samsung stock rom.
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Yes of course but in cm10.1 with the older icons they align perfectly as 6 toggles showing fully, but in cm10.2 with the new icons they don't align right, as shown in the screenshots.
With older icons:

- So if you set it to 5, you see 5...
- Set it to 6+, it shows 5.5 which also indicates to the user that they can swype to find more toggles?
- If you set it to 6+ and it only showed 5, you wouldn't know you could swype to find the extra toggles so therefore, the user may think that it just doesn't work.
- Scaling would look horrible imo, imagine if you had 10? all scaled to fit across the screen?
I think it's fine the way it is?

shayne77 said:
- So if you set it to 5, you see 5...
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Wrong. You see 5 and an empty space for the 0,5 toggle which is not there (see print screen), since you have chosen to have 5 toggles. Your arguments do not hold ground since the user knows how many toggles he/she has enabled and leaving half toggle at the end of 5 toggles just looks incomplete no matter what follows .
Lets say that if someone with your reasoning would apply this same toggle layout to how photo gallery layout looks, it would mean that when viewing a picture in full screen we would see one full picture and half of the next picture :laugh:.
The point I am making is that notification toggles should have option to have certain amount of toggles whose layout is perfect with no stretching, no half-ass toggles and so on. I don't need 10 toggles to be squeezed into one line, I am fine with 5, but please let it be aligned :fingers-crossed:.

Error on change user info.
When I try to change and click on picture to change, it open and close.

jemeljsh said:
Wrong. You see 5 and an empty space for the 0,5 toggle which is not there (see print screen), since you have chosen to have 5 toggles. Your arguments do not hold ground since the user knows how many toggles he/she has enabled and leaving half toggle at the end of 5 toggles just looks incomplete no matter what follows .
Lets say that if someone with your reasoning would apply this same toggle layout to how photo gallery layout looks, it would mean that when viewing a picture in full screen we would see one full picture and half of the next picture :laugh:.
The point I am making is that notification toggles should have option to have certain amount of toggles whose layout is perfect with no stretching, no half-ass toggles and so on. I don't need 10 toggles to be squeezed into one line, I am fine with 5, but please let it be aligned :fingers-crossed:.
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So you removed some tiles for your screenshots? By default, I get the attached standard tile layout.
Fair enough though.... Hope they sort it out for you...
I like it left aligned as it shows there is more toggles to the right. Whether 5, 5.5 or 6, you still have to swype to get to the 6th+ tile.
Anyway, good luck!
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Experience after using more then a year

I have been using my grand for more then a year now, it is the only cellphone I used during this period or you can say primary phone or daily driver and here is my experience-
(Rooted,Stock Rom 4.2.2)
Hardware side-
The side bezel is still holding that silver coating except from the part where the charging cable is plugged and some places near the back cover.
I would say that it fine.(Have never dropped the phone and hope to keep it that way)
Screen -
The screen is well protected by this scratch less screen guard (using it for more then 4 months) which gives a little sparkling effect which I find little annoying but is ok as I have used my cell without flipcover for like more then 1 month and still scratches can't be seen on the screen (Unless one looks closely for them).
The screen is quite big for my hands and after using this phone I feel that a 4.7 inch would be more suitable to me, also I feel that they have increased the screen size by expanding the breadth more then it should have been which make it a little uncomfortable to hold and gives it a cheap look(just my view).
Sim-
I have had 2 sims on my phone but never really used the second one except for a month or so, in my experience the phone becomes quite laggy when both sims are kept active and more so when you use your second sim for data and first for calls.
Switching between the sims gave lag of like 2 seconds and sometimes even more.
Hang-
When the remaining internal memory gets lower then 1gb the phone becomes real slow and near 700 mb or less left it hangs for like once or twice a day(in which case i had to reboot the phone by long pressing the power button)
I have to delete all useless apps(mostly games) as I do not like link2sd, gives mount script error on reboot and have got my nexus 7 for gaming and stuff and have put all my music(20 gb plus) amd titanium backup on my 64gb external card.
When the free internal memory is like 1.2gb or more the phone works fine.
Battery-
I use Greenify to stop apps that are less important from running in the background and consuming the battery.
I have ran this phone from 100% to 1% for 42 hours during which I made like 30min of phone calls and near to no use of internet(whenever used it was on my wifi) and rest of the time it was idle, the network was WCDMA ONLY on my BSNL sim, that was the highest I analyzed, maybe it can do better but I don't bother putting it to test.
Issues-
(Other then those mentioned above)
When continuously using the Samsung Keyboard for more then 5 minutes I experienced massive delay in keyboard, almost to the extent where I had to exit the app and restart, this was not one time thing as it went on to happen consecutively 3 more times.
(I was using Google Keep)
In also lags a little bit in general usage.
While using any app if I long press the home button most of the time the app I was last using is not present in the recent apps list,this is quite prominent and is noticed on a daily basis.
Now when I go to the home screen then go back to the recent apps the last app is still not in the recent apps section.

4.2.2 update kinda destroyed some stuff which was pretty fine in 4.1.2 like the switching from dual sim thing and also the internal memory bug. I'd recommended switching to one of these KitKat ROMs out there.
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I won't mind switching to a KitKat ROM if they implement dual Sim functionality with considerable perfection, most probably by then I might as well have switched to some other cellphone.
I agree 4.1.2 felt more stable, they also removed the option to share music directly from the default player, I miss that one some times.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

pls tell diffrence between 4.1.2 and 4.2.2
can i revert back from 4.2.2 to 4.1.2 if u say that it was bug free....what all features i would loose....pls tell...my gallery app is very laggy....and everything else ....pls explain.....

datasai7755 said:
pls tell diffrence between 4.1.2 and 4.2.2
can i revert back from 4.2.2 to 4.1.2 if u say that it was bug free....what all features i would loose....pls tell...my gallery app is very laggy....and everything else ....pls explain.....
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oh yes..u can always revert back to 4.1.2..just download the latest 4.1.2 country specific firmware ( in this case india i guess ) from sammobile and flash via odin....:good::good:
visit here for the details.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43717119&postcount=2

what features i will not get in 4.1.2....or is it same as 4.2.2......does 4.1.1 is lag free

datasai7755 said:
pls tell diffrence between 4.1.2 and 4.2.2
can i revert back from 4.2.2 to 4.1.2 if u say that it was bug free....what all features i would loose....pls tell...my gallery app is very laggy....and everything else ....pls explain.....
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4.2.2 gave more functionality, like the lock screen widgets on left and app drawer or whatever you say on right, transparent notification bar, stock gallery saw a little change in the interface and many more things, like the light effect to unlock and so on.
Though most usefull one I feel was the vibration effect i.e. the phone vibrates when a call is picked up on the other side, saves a few seconds of distraction or a little less radiation to your head if you want to talk scientifically, earlier I achieved this feature by using an xposed module.
Regarding problems in 4.2.2 I have written all of them in the OP, most noticeable is the recent apps not showing up and that keyboard lag.
If you want to revert back to 4.1.1 then have a look at -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364293
Personally I think that if single Sim is not a problem for you then you can try cyanogen mod builds, I haven't tried it myself as I think that it ruins the whole point of having a dual Sim phone but it is definitely smoother and faster then stock.
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i dont want to root.....i want to use stock firmware but want to be lag free...
can u suggest me to remove gallery lag....

datasai7755 said:
i dont want to root.....i want to use stock firmware but want to be lag free...
can u suggest me to remove gallery lag....
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Just stop using the stock gallery app, I use quick pic, it is fast and perfect, though if you still wanna use the stock gallery then from time to time you have to go to
Application manager - All - Choose Gallery and then choose clear data.
It shows 95gb or more data, known bug.
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under warranty......i also used quick pic and disabled gallery app....if i snap a pic from camera and click on pic to enlarge from camera app it shows your gallery app is disabled ...cant i choose quick pic as my default image viewer

datasai7755 said:
under warranty......i also used quick pic and disabled gallery app....if i snap a pic from camera and click on pic to enlarge from camera app it shows your gallery app is disabled ...cant i choose quick pic as my default image viewer
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That's an inbuilt thing, I don't think you can change that, regarding warranty I don't think anyone uses it, maybe 1 in a thousand have to, you are upgrading firmwares yourself what is the need of warranty.
Only check for a week or so that there is no manufacturing defect and then just root and experience the power of android.
Also you can unroot your cell.
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CM does have dual sim.
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Do not install Lollipop if...

I was quite disappointed by the update and I am thinking about rolling back on Kitkat. Those are my main concerns with Lollipop, feel free to share yours or your solutions/workarounds. So do not install Lollipop if:
You care about homescreen widgets, indeed in Lollipop you can have notifications on the homescreen but it is all or nothing. You can't just have whatsapp or email for example. If you select no notifications, there is not even an icon in the status bar.
You want to use Xposed or Xprivacy. Indeed xposed is buggy and xprivacy does not work well (if you can install it without bootloops, which I couldn't)
You would like an efficient app switcher, this kind of drawer in Lollipop just complicate things, do not provide a good overview but that's my point of view. In addition it does not come with the close all button on every customizations
You don't want a blue notification bar which looks too bright in apps
You care about battery life. Indeed it seems that Lollipop is buggy and has some memory leaks which slow down the system and make it use more CPU I was wrong about this one, while there are memory leaks they do not seem to affect battery life significantly
If you want to be able to switch on silent/airplane mode from the power off menu
if you want to keep ‘hi-res audio via usb’ ... as its gone in Lollipop. | reported by Scoobidu
if you liked the ability to go to relevant settings (wifi for example) by a long tap (on the wifi icon) in the control centerstill possible if you tap the name and not the icon, my bad

difto said:
I was quite disappointed by the update and I am thinking about rolling back on Kitkat. Those are my main concerns with Lollipop, feel free to share yours or your solutions/workarounds. So do not install Lollipop if:
You care about homescreen widgets, indeed in Lollipop you can have notifications on the homescreen but it is all or nothing. You can't just have whatsapp or email for example.
You want to use Xposed or Xprivacy. Indeed xposed is buggy and xprivacy does not work well (if you can install it without bootloops, which I couldn't)
You would like an efficient app switcher, this kind of drawer in Lollipop just complicate things, do not provide a good overview but that's my point of view. In addition it does not come with the close all button on every customizations
You don't want a blue notification bar which looks too bright in apps
You care about battery life. Indeed it seems that Lollipop is buggy and has some memory leaks which slow down the system and make it use more CPU
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I approve everything that you said, my suggestion for everybody is to update to lollipop only when they'll make a 5.1 update that solves the cpu and memory problem.

difto said:
I was quite disappointed by the update and I am thinking about rolling back on Kitkat. Those are my main concerns with Lollipop, feel free to share yours or your solutions/workarounds. So do not install Lollipop if:
You care about homescreen widgets, indeed in Lollipop you can have notifications on the homescreen but it is all or nothing. You can't just have whatsapp or email for example.
You want to use Xposed or Xprivacy. Indeed xposed is buggy and xprivacy does not work well (if you can install it without bootloops, which I couldn't)
You would like an efficient app switcher, this kind of drawer in Lollipop just complicate things, do not provide a good overview but that's my point of view. In addition it does not come with the close all button on every customizations
You don't want a blue notification bar which looks too bright in apps
You care about battery life. Indeed it seems that Lollipop is buggy and has some memory leaks which slow down the system and make it use more CPU
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Battery is the same. Performance is better. Especially on 726. Even benchmarks prove it.
You can change the theme to change the colour of the bar.
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Sadman Khan said:
Battery is the same. Performance is better. Especially on 726. Even benchmarks prove it.
You can change the theme to change the colour of the bar.
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Yeap, battery for me is quite the same, I am regreting because of xposed. But haopy because finally I can change from landscape to portrait easily and faster. Animations rock and the old statusbar sucked. New lockscreen is way better than the old one. And double tap to sleep works faster too. All while battery being a bit better than before.
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Aside from the small Xposed thing, I don't have a lot to complain about actually. Kinda like Lollipop.

Gonna try 23.1.A.0.726 if u say so..

E66666666 said:
Aside from the small Xposed thing, I don't have a lot to complain about actually. Kinda like Lollipop.
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Maan, I need a way to modify the NAV bar... Having the back key so far away when using constantly, irritates me. ALSO a way to set flashlight to a keypress...(xposed whyyy)
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fenchai said:
Maan, I need a way to modify the NAV bar... Having the back key so far away when using constantly, irritates me. ALSO a way to set flashlight to a keypress...(xposed whyyy)
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Yes Xposed is the biggest loss, you can install the alpha version of Xposed, maybe it will work I am not sure why it caused a bootloop for me (might also be older modules) the only catch is that you might have to reflash /system through the recovery (step 40 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343) in case of bootloop but you don't loose your data/apps.

difto said:
You would like an efficient app switcher, this kind of drawer in Lollipop just complicate things, do not provide a good overview but that's my point of view. In addition it does not come with the close all button on every customizations
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For who needs the "close all" button, I've just uploaded the russian firmware HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60044680&postcount=903
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difto said:
I was quite disappointed by the update and I am thinking about rolling back on Kitkat. Those are my main concerns with Lollipop, feel free to share yours or your solutions/workarounds. So do not install Lollipop if:
You don't want a blue notification bar which looks too bright in apps
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+1

I have already rolled back to kitkat.. I prefer the UI and everything i need is compatible and working how it should ..
I have to say I didnt enjoy my experience with lollipop and can't see myself attempting the update again..
There were just no benefits for me other than it felt a tiny bit more snappier.
Poor/rushed effort from Sony in my eyes, they could of done alot better.
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Even I've rolled back to KitKat.. I love the lollipop animation and the fact that is quicker, but not having the possibility to have more quicksetting (using Serajr Xposed App) and using many GB setting is a a enormous loss for me (and I hate the new silent mode on lollipop!) .. If CM didn't have the photo problem because of the loss of the algorithm, I would installed immediately . For now I'll stay on KitKat, waiting for having back the xposed modules at full potential. Just my thoughts and experience anyway!

Matteo Mazzu said:
Even I've rolled back to KitKat.. I love the lollipop animation and the fact that is quicker, but not having the possibility to have more quicksetting (using Serajr Xposed App) and using many GB setting is a a enormous loss for me (and I hate the new silent mode on lollipop!) .. If CM didn't have the photo problem because of the loss of the algorithm, I would installed immediately . For now I'll stay on KitKat, waiting for having back the xposed modules at full potential. Just my thoughts and experience anyway!
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Notifications are a mess on Lollipop, either you have your lock screen full of notifications or nothing. You can just have icons in the status bar as on KitKat. As for the the silent mode of Lollipop, regular modes are also available if you put it on "normal ringer" and you click the speaker it will go on vibration instead. That said the power off menu is crappy too, no possiblity to put on silent, no possbility to put on flight mode.

sumon511 said:
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I dont get this. Just change to another theme, and the bar isn't blue anymore.

SylverPT said:
I dont get this. Just change to another theme, and the bar isn't blue anymore.
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There are some colour choices.they are all bright.you can not choose black like kitkat.bright colour distract me from app.

Matteo Mazzu said:
Even I've rolled back to KitKat.. I love the lollipop animation and the fact that is quicker, but not having the possibility to have more quicksetting (using Serajr Xposed App) and using many GB setting is a a enormous loss for me (and I hate the new silent mode on lollipop!) .. If CM didn't have the photo problem because of the loss of the algorithm, I would installed immediately . For now I'll stay on KitKat, waiting for having back the xposed modules at full potential. Just my thoughts and experience anyway!
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how many quick toggle can be on the notification bar?

I llike LP but it has some problem about xposed or some module
get bootloop 5 times on day hahaha
i back to KK temporary

sumon511 said:
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Change the theme man
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difto said:
I was quite disappointed by the update and I am thinking about rolling back on Kitkat. Those are my main concerns with Lollipop, feel free to share yours or your solutions/workarounds. So do not install Lollipop if:
You would like an efficient app switcher, this kind of drawer in Lollipop just complicate things, do not provide a good overview but that's my point of view. In addition it does not come with the close all button on every customizations
You don't want a blue notification bar which looks too bright in apps
If you want to be able to switch on silent/airplane mode from the power off menu
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You can still silent mode by pressing the volume button.
The themer a lil useless for me now, not sure if its the same for you guys but i theming changes nothing much other than minor colors, the nav bar seems to be unable to theme.
Agreed that the app switcher is not as efficient.
Anyways if you feel the animations a lil not your taste what i did was to set it to 0.5 in developer option. =)

Yes, you can change using the volume button but then you have to unlock the phone, press volume, press silent. Before you just pressed power, silent. Much better in a meeting were you forgot to silence it.
I was wrong, you can silence it while locked.

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Hi All,
A Beta Version of EMUI8.0 has been pushed via OTA for those who applied through Google form and FUT tool.
Please kindly post all your feedback and suggestions here in this thread. :fingers-crossed:
You can also share your feedback by joining project through Beta app.
Here is the beta tool instruction: https://club.hihonor.com/in/announcements.205/beta-tool-instruction.133939
Thank you all for your support and your patience as always. Please make sure to know that the beta software is sometimes not as stable as our official one is. If you install the update, you accept the potential risks and rules.
We may not be able to respond to you every moment, but please keep in mind that we hear your problems and take note for your future needs seriously.
Feel free to discuss the EMUI 8.0 with other 7x users in our discord channel here.

The Beta is great! I haven't faced any significant issue yet, the system is smooth and the new theme is nice too. I also appreciated the fact that the system now takes 4gbs less space. The only issue I'm facing is a slight decrease in battery performance, but I'm pretty certain it can be solved with a full wipe.

I have had this beta for a week now and I have had zero issues.
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It won't change anything, but I really am tired of reading this statement phrased this way:
--> A Beta Version of EMUI8.0 has been pushed via OTA for those who applied through Google form and FUT tool.
I applied through the Google form, as did others, who are NOT GETTING IT, so to state it this way is just flat out misrepresenting what they are actually doing. I tried reaching out, can not get added in, they say they had limited spots, and yet they keep touting it publicly as though they let in anyone who applied. I don't like it when facts are so badly misrepresented.

The beta seems good but there are some bugs :
Widget meteo on nova caused system crash
Notification media button is some time bugged on lock screen

Possible to get a toggle to sync notifications like gmail etc?

Review after using EMUI 8.0 beta for 9 days
No major issues or force closes till now .
It's a more stable build than the face unlock update which totally messed up my device .That update is one of the reason for me to enroll for beta.Now I'm really happy that I did it
Only thing I felt is that battery performance got reduced a lot compared to the EMUI 5.1.( Some say a hard reset will fix that but I don't wanna do that till a stable build )
Another feature I feel lacking is option to allow apps to run even after screen lock .I need apps like PushBullet to work in background after the Screenlock but I couldn't do that in EMUI 8.0.I can't find the Volte for idea which was introduced along with face lock update.
The features of EMUI 8.0 I like most are
App Shortcuts
New Launcher
Google feed instead of Hiboard
Immersivemode ( Option to hide navigation bar)
Autofill,
New Messages Apps
New LinkedIn Sync In Contacts App
Settings,
New Lock Screen Theme Engine ,
Ride Mode
New Navigation Dock looks really Cool
.
Stock Oreo Vs EMUI 8.0 Oreo
EMUI 8.0 doesn't change much from EMUI 5.1 in terms of UI.It's almost same except for the settings app but I'm okay with that as the system smoothness and performance increased in a great deal.A few differences between stock and emui Oreo are
Unlike the stock Android the quick settings background didn't change( though we have the freedom to change it whatever color we like in EMUI)
Number of quick settings in single coloumn didn't reduce ( I actually like that they didn't change)
No new Dailer App( I expected one and disappointed about this )
Bugs I encountered :
I only had a soft reset once,when I tried to play a x265 1080p video of size 11GB in Plex App which I assumed a bit heavy for decoding and reported it .Otherthan that no issues
Overall If you ask me, EMUI 8.0 is awesome there is no reason to still call it a beta build.Even stable builds will have small bugs like this beta build

I don't think I have some of the features Trixter has listed.
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I really liked when the battery icon at the top in the notification bar turned green when charging like in previous Android versions. I also really like the lightning icon that shows up inside the battery icon when charging when the percentage is next to the battery. I suggest combining the two. Have the battery icon turn green like before and have the lightning icon when charging.
In the short amount of time I've had emui 8, this is all all I could find for now.

Phone is running really smooth. I would like to see the location option for smart unlock. Currently only Bluetooth but that is not a beta thing.
Overall, no issues on my end and phone is running much better.

Just switched themes which changed the font, can't seem to get font to change now since getting the beta.
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Nevermind, I'm an idiot.

Phone seems smoother, better performance navigating around. The swipe left and right problem seems to be solved.
In the Files app, Safe will not accept my fingerprint, password, or password reset answers to secret questions. So I can't access my Safe. Any suggestions?

Bug caught in an hour.
Its been running great actually after a full wipe. Faster than before, the face recognition is better, the voice recognition is faster.
One bug that I found with the pre-installed Swiftkey was when you're glide-typing(or swipe writing, idk), these trails which should appear on the keyboard, don't show up there if the navigation bar is hidden. They show up way above the keyboard in the writing area.
Since this is my first post, I was not allowed to attach a link or an image.
This is the only bug I was able to find as it was today that I received the beta. Otherwise, everything else is great on this update.

Bluetooth in the car is only displaying the name of my phone...not the artist, song, and album. Skip track buttons on car's steering wheel won't skip songs. This happens both in Pocket Casts and Emby Android apps. Before the beta, Bluetooth audio displayed and controlled fine.

The1JoshuaB said:
Bluetooth in the car is only displaying the name of my phone...not the artist, song, and album. Skip track buttons on car's steering wheel won't skip songs. This happens both in Pocket Casts and Emby Android apps. Before the beta, Bluetooth audio displayed and controlled fine.
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And today it's back to normal.

Files > Safe still doesn't work even after a wipe and fresh install. Can't even set up Safe. Keeps asking to create a password and choose new secret questions/answers. Upon entering, just continues this loop. Does anyone's Safe work after the beta?

Still Haven't Received The Beta Update
I still have not received the update. I signed up on the Google Form and got an email saying that the update was to be rolled out soon (this was around March 15th). I have contacted the Honor USA Twitter and Facebook pages (and got no helpful reply). I also emailed Honor Support and I'm awaiting another reply, but they initially told me to just wait. What is going on with this??

Beta Is Great, With Some Minor Faults
This is going to sound like I really hate the update but it is good and very very stable even for a Beta.
Good:
1. I had an issue with 5.1 were my Accessibility settings would randomly disable themselves for no explicable reason making my password manager useless, It's fixed which is nice!
2. ROM size has shrunk making for space for other stuff
3. The new default blue/teal is IMO better than the old blue
4. Floating dock is nice(not sure if it was available in 5.1 but a nice feature non the less)
Now for the bad which is a little longer of a list
Bad:
1. YouTube casting now randomly disconnects from my chromecast even after I allowed youtube full access to run in the background
2. The "Simplified" settings menu is a lie and things feel more jumbled now than ever, like mobile data and mobile network still being different menus
3. Not sure why but my banking app took forever(5+ minutes) to load the first time after the update
4. Only one app crashed and that was IFunny twice
5. My VPN randomly disconnected multiple times
6. Only battery saver option in QS is ultra mode
7. The battery icon still cannot be completely remove(to use apps like Energy Bar)
8. Floating dock doesn't always go home the first long press
9. Some games I play have rendering issues
10. Notification UI and QS UI don't merge nicely(they just kind of cut off into each other)
11. Bluetooth would randomly disconnect when the screen powered off and require a reconnect of the device to work
12. This is a general UI complaint, why the hell are some options only available the phone manager app. It took me 20 minutes to find where the blacklist for phone numbers was. It honestly makes no sense why "Blocked" is in phone manager. Why not in the mobile data or mobile network settings tab or even in the dialer app. IMO all of the UI improvements of Oreo are lost in this update, most of EMUI is exactly the same. This feels more like Android 8 with EMUI 5.2 over it.
Like I said I really enjoyed using the update and some things were genuinely better but it's a made lackluster by the EMUI on top of it.
I have to hand it to Huawei/Honor for getting Treble working, I'm jumping ship to RR-OS right after I'm finished this post!:good:

I live i Italy and have the BND-L21, received Oreo, AR Lenses but not Face Unlock.

I know this is not place for Honor 8 lite
But want to say that in oreo
My internal storage bacomes full with nothing
I have also did factory reset but not working
I think this is because of oreo