Hi guys!
I was with old bootloader and always used custom roms without a problem.
(I had the GOLDENEYE XXUGNG2)
I got my S4 on service due to screen replacement (i have returned to stock MGA rom, triangle away, all official etc) and with the screen replacement they also update my phone to stock XXUGNF1. :crying:
So i need a workaround for how root my phone, custom recovery, custom roms without trigger the KNOX flag.
(I have lost many episodes..)
Thanks in advance!
Not possible.. You can root it without tripping though by using towelroot
So, towelroot for root.
(If i want to un-root, i just install a stock rom with ODIN or something else?)
If try for custom recovery or rom, knox will be triggered?
alexisgt said:
So, towelroot for root.
(If i want to un-root, i just install a stock rom with ODIN or something else?)
If try for custom recovery or rom, knox will be triggered?
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Yes, yes, and yes
Thanks my friend!
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I have the 9505
previously i had the stock MH8 with Knox bootloader.
I flashed a non-knox version and it probably did something to the bootloader.
I had problems with the wifi and the sound, until i flashed the pre-rooted MH8 version i found (after many other tries with different ROMS)
of course it flagged the 0x1 in the proccess.
my question is, can I flash a pre-rooted 4.3 ROM?
or is my bootloader already f***ed up?
AND, if i flash a new 4.3 ROM, and the problem returns (wifi/sound), is there any way to solve it?
because as i understand, after flashing a 4.3, there is no downgrade.
thanks!
Flash omega and all your problems will be solved
Sent from Omega pwd GT-I9505/smart phones,dumb people.
kimitza said:
Flash omega and all your problems will be solved
Sent from Omega pwd GT-I9505/smart phones,dumb people.
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i don't like the Omega ROMs...
it would be nice if you can answer my questions though
somebody?
re: flash roms
yonye87 said:
I have the 9505
previously i had the stock MH8 with Knox bootloader.
I flashed a non-knox version and it probably did something to the bootloader.
I had problems with the wifi and the sound, until i flashed the pre-rooted MH8 version i found (after many other tries with different ROMS)
of course it flagged the 0x1 in the proccess.
my question is, can I flash a pre-rooted 4.3 ROM?
or is my bootloader already f***ed up?
AND, if i flash a new 4.3 ROM, and the problem returns (wifi/sound), is there any way to solve it?
because as i understand, after flashing a 4.3, there is no downgrade.
thanks!
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You can flash any stock based or custom roms even if you have KNOX.
KNOX has nothing to do with flashing custom roms in your phone.
Just flash any custom roms which are compatible with your phone
and it will work just fine.
If it doesn't work fine it has nothing to do with KNOX.
All Knox does is basically void the warranty so retailers do
not have to abide by the warranty if the KNOX is present.
Good luck!
Misterjunky said:
You can flash any stock based or custom roms even if you have KNOX.
KNOX has nothing to do with flashing custom roms in your phone.
Just flash any custom roms which are compatible with your phone
and it will work just fine.
If it doesn't work fine it has nothing to do with KNOX.
All Knox does is basically void the warranty so retailers do
not have to abide by the warranty if the KNOX is present.
Good luck!
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thanks for the answer.
I don't care about the Knox warranty m8
My only question is, if the wifi+sound problem can accure again? or is it safe to upgarde my odex pre-rooted 4.2.2 MH8 to odex 4.3 MK8?
AND if it happens again and i CAN'T downgrade it, how can i solve it?
please? somebody?
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please? somebody?
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I also stuck in your situation,
I'd love an answer if anyone is experiencing the problem.
Just got a new S5 and I've been out of the scene for a while.
Can someone point me in the direction of some up to date info/guide? I've been scouring xda for 30 mins now and can't figure out the best way to get Recovery and Root.
Bonus question: I've read that using a rootkit irreversibly increases a counter from 0x0 to 0x1 whereas TowelRoot does not. Is this true?
check your kernel version first. if its date is lower than 3rd June then TowelRoot will not trigger KNOX. but if its later than 3rd June any method used to root will trigger KNOX to 0x1
Custom kernel and recovery are out of the question. They will trigger KNOX no matter whatever you do as of now.
wajiman said:
check your kernel version first. if its date is lower than 3rd June then TowelRoot will not trigger KNOX. but if its later than 3rd June any method used to root will trigger KNOX to 0x1
Custom kernel and recovery are out of the question. They will trigger KNOX no matter whatever you do as of now.
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Thursday May 8th. Does this mean I should go with TowelRoot? Or are you saying it doesn't matter as I intend to enable recovery anyway?
kelevra7 said:
Thursday May 8th. Does this mean I should go with TowelRoot? Or are you saying it doesn't matter as I intend to enable recovery anyway?
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you can use towelroot, knox wont be tripped as the kernel version is less than 3rd june.
but if you flash custom recovery or kernel knox will get tripped as of now. And as you intend to enable recovery anyway, so it means you are willing to get knox tirpped hence you can use any way to root
I can confirm that towelroot will not trip knox on G900F.
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wajiman said:
you can use towelroot, knox wont be tripped as the kernel version is less than 3rd june.
but if you flash custom recovery or kernel knox will get tripped as of now. And as you intend to enable recovery anyway, so it means you are willing to get knox tirpped hence you can use any way to root
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Thanks for the clarification. So I'm now going to install TowelRoot, and then install TWRP from the play store. You're saying that it is only after I install TWRP that KNOX will get tripped? Even though TWRP is now official (in the play store)?
Have I got the order right?
kelevra7 said:
Thanks for the clarification. So I'm now going to install TowelRoot, and then install TWRP from the play store. You're saying that it is only after I install TWRP that KNOX will get tripped? Even though TWRP is now official (in the play store)?
Have I got the order right?
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Yup, all non stock stuff like custom recovery`s and kernels will trip KNOX to 0x1 permanantly if flashed with (Mobile) Odin.
kelevra7 said:
Thanks for the clarification. So I'm now going to install TowelRoot, and then install TWRP from the play store. You're saying that it is only after I install TWRP that KNOX will get tripped? Even though TWRP is now official (in the play store)?
Have I got the order right?
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AFAIK yes
gee2012 said:
Yup, all non stock stuff like custom recovery`s and kernels will trip KNOX to 0x1 permanantly if flashed with (Mobile) Odin.
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Aaaah. That makes sense. I've just seen that in SuperSU I can disable KNOX. If I do that, install CM11 and reenable KNOX will it still show 0x1?
Would you also mind confirming that I've got the right idea about what comes next:
1. Install towelroot.
2. Install SuperSU.
3. Update SU binaries (disabling KNOX in the process).
4. Install TWRP from Playstore
5. Flash CM11
Do I need to back up my EFS partition first or will this be covered by restoring to Stock ROM (should I need to do so)?
Also this process means I don't even need Odin. Is this correct?!
kelevra7 said:
Aaaah. That makes sense. I've just seen that in SuperSU I can disable KNOX. If I do that, install CM11 and reenable KNOX will it still show 0x1?
Would you also mind confirming that I've got the right idea about what comes next:
1. Install towelroot.
2. Install SuperSU.
3. Update SU binaries (disabling KNOX in the process).
4. Install TWRP from Playstore
5. Flash CM11
Do I need to back up my EFS partition first or will this be covered by restoring to Stock ROM (should I need to do so)?
Also this process means I don't even need Odin. Is this correct?!
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Step 4 will always trip KNOX unfortunately. If you only root like with steps 1 to 3 on roms with kernels build before june 3rd KNOX will remain 0x0. You simply cannot flash custom recovery`s without tripping KNOX (it will remain active and detect security breaches).
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Step 4 will always trip KNOX unfortunately. If you only root like steps 1 to 3 on roms with kernels build before june 3rd KNOX will remain 0x0. You simply cannot flash custom recovery`s without tripping KNOX (it will remain active and detect security breaches).
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I see. So there is no way to maintain my warranty if I want to install a custom ROM? Shall I go ahead and disable KNOX through SuperSU?
kelevra7 said:
I see. So there is no way to maintain my warranty if I want to install a custom ROM? Shall I go ahead and disable KNOX through SuperSU?
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Look here for a KNOX explanation (different levels) http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/. You can root your decice with TR and disable KNOX notifications showing up and still keep warranty. Flashing custom recovery`s will trip KNOX.
Warranty is also region dependent, for instance rooting a device in the EU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801 doesn`t void warranty by law. Look how rooting is handled in your region.
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Look here for a KNOX explanation (different levels) http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/. You can root your decice with TR and disable KNOX notifications showing up and still keep warranty. Flashing custom recovery`s will trip KNOX.
Warranty is also region dependent, for instance rooting a device in the EU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801 doesn`t void warranty by law. Look how rooting is handled in your region.
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Thanks this is a great link. Very helpful. I have subsequently 'disabled' KNOX through SuperSU even though I'm doubtful this will really do anything with regard to my warranty. I'm already set on flashing a custom ROM so flashing TWRP is a must for me.
P.S. I've only just realised CM11 isn't available for the S5. Can you recommend any custom ROMS other than Omega and Alliance? What do you use?
I need to service my device due to GPS problems.
Warranty would be most probably void if they find any traces of custom ROM installations.
I've install stock original stock ROM using ODIN.
As far as I know No Knox was ever installed on my device.
Would the lab be able to discover any traces of custom ROM installations?
How can I check that?
Thanks!
amir77a said:
I need to service my device due to GPS problems.
Warranty would be most probably void if they find any traces of custom ROM installations.
I've install stock original stock ROM using ODIN.
As far as I know No Knox was ever installed on my device.
Would the lab be able to discover any traces of custom ROM installations?
How can I check that?
Thanks!
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Hi mate,
go to download mode if there is no mention at all of knox , then you are knox free ...your warranty is ok , if there is any mention of knox there check if the knox bit is set to 0x1 if so your warranty bit is set., if not then you are ok
I have always careful to install only Knox free ROMS, so no Knox mention at all.
The stock ROM is Android 4.2.2 prior to Knox.
Will they be able to find somehow any other traces of those ROM's ?
amir77a said:
I have always careful to install only Knox free ROMS, so no Knox mention at all.
The stock ROM is Android 4.2.2 prior to Knox.
Will they be able to find somehow any other traces of those ROM's ?
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hi,
If you flashed rom with Odin , and you kept your bootloader at all times in 4.2.2 and there are no traces at download mode.....they will not find out
I did flashed with Odin, but I don't know if I kept the bootloader in 4.2.2 at all times.
In the past the custom ROM's were 4.4.3, but after the Odin stock ROM flashing, I never installed in ROM/bootloader/root etc. Is that suffice?
amir77a said:
I did flashed with Odin, but I don't know if I kept the bootloader in 4.2.2 at all times.
In the past the custom ROM's were 4.4.3, but after the Odin stock ROM flashing, I never installed in ROM/bootloader/root etc. Is that suffice?
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If you flashed a 4.2.2 stock rom with odin and had no errors at all and settings /about device shows a 4.2.2 rom then you have a 4.2.2 bootloader...there is no way to flash a older bootloader on top of a newer one....
I did flash stock ROM with Odin, and had no errors at all, and the about device shows a 4.2.2, BUT I had several ROMs with 4.4.3, such as Omega, and also Philz touch CWM.
So it seems that I was able to flash older bootloader over newer one. Am I wrong?
Sorry if I'm asking to much questions.. just trying to understand that.
Thanks again!
amir77a said:
I did flash stock ROM with Odin, and had no errors at all, and the about device shows a 4.2.2, BUT I had several ROMs with 4.4.3, such as Omega, and also Philz touch CWM.
So it seems that I was able to flash older bootloader over newer one. Am I wrong?
Sorry if I'm asking to much questions.. just trying to understand that.
Thanks again!
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no problem
Custom roms do not have bootloaders only stock roms , there is no way ( yet) to flash a 4.22 bootloader on top of a 4.3 bootloader...so if you have right now a stock 4.2.2 firmware you never flashed a 4.3 bootloader
Omega never have bootloaders in their rom
OK got it!
I never flash stock 4.3.x ROM, hence bootloader remains 4.2.2.
Thanks so much!
Hi. I've asked similar question before but wasn't given a clear answer.
I've done quite a bit searching and I am not a noob to rooting and custom roms.
I want to keep my knox and I am aware that there is a method using towelroot to root without knox tripping, however installing CWM or any other custom recoveries will trip knox.
My question is, once I've rooted using towelroot method and then install clockwork's rom manager off play store then install recovery through it, will they still trip knox?
Also what if I just use rom manager to install custom roms without instslling the recovery? Is that possible? I so badly want custom roms but I cannot risk knox. Please advice....
langsalang said:
Hi. I've asked similar question before but wasn't given a clear answer.
I've done quite a bit searching and I am not a noob to rooting and custom roms.
I want to keep my knox and I am aware that there is a method using towelroot to root without knox tripping, however installing CWM or any other custom recoveries will trip knox.
My question is, once I've rooted using towelroot method and then install clockwork's rom manager off play store then install recovery through it, will they still trip knox?
Also what if I just use rom manager to install custom roms without instslling the recovery? Is that possible? I so badly want custom roms but I cannot risk knox. Please advice....
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Q: My question is, once I've rooted using towelroot method and then install clockwork's rom manager off play store then install recovery through it, will they still trip knox?
A: You will trip KNOX this way as well.
Q: What if I just use rom manager to install custom roms without installing the recovery? Is that possible?
A: Use Mobile Odin Pro instead. ROM Manager uses an existing recovery to install ROMs, without a recovery it is not possible. Check this link out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583199
Thank for your detailed reply!
I got the mobile odin pro now.
I want miui rom but wonikas miui has custom kernel. It will trigger knox right?
Any other miui rom without custom rom? Or is there way to install miui rom with stock kernel?
Or does miui require custom kernel to work?
All Miui Roms require a custom kernel so you will definitely trip knox.
Go for it
If you decide to go for it do youself a favor: Flash TWRP recovery.
Take a look at [TOOL/UTILITY][TWRP][ 2.7][RECOVERY] TWRP 2.7.2.x TeamWin Recovery Project 7/5
You will not regret it.
I know this might be a stupid question to some of you, but actually I can't find out if installing a custom rom require root? I have mine S7edge installed TWRP recovery, but I wonder if you need root access to install custom rom?
I think I found out that you don't need root access to flash a custom rom, was hoping that I didn't trip my Knox when installing (Recovery TWRP). TIL recovery flashing will also trip your Knox!
lovetv said:
I think I found out that you don't need root access to flash a custom rom, was hoping that I didn't trip my Knox when installing (Recovery TWRP). TIL recovery flashing will also trip your Knox!
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Root is not needed to flash a custom ROM. Flashing TWRP tripped knox though.
Rehvix said:
Root is not needed to flash a custom ROM. Flashing TWRP tripped knox though.
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hello mate. what if i flashed sm-g935u unlock on my s7 edge g935a? my original firmware is g935a then converted to g935u how can i root it? i dont know if i can root it..since it is now flashed to g935u 7.0 any tutorial? thanks advance