Yesterday I updated to 4.4.4 (root still works, SuperSU survival enabled)
The problem is that Xposed Mod doesn't work anymore. It looks like write protection reenabled after update (checked it via PC and adb shell command)
Is there a way to fix that?
mapki said:
Yesterday I updated to 4.4.4 (root still works, SuperSU survival enabled)
The problem is that Xposed Mod doesn't work anymore. It looks like write protection reenabled after update (checked it via PC and adb shell command)
Is there a way to fix that?
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The write protection? Not at this time, unless you have an unlocked bootloader. Perhaps someone will come up with an exploit that will turn write protection off on 4.4.4, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I have an unlocked Developer Edition on 4.4.4 with root and WP off, but on my day-to-day Maxx, I'm still at 4.4 with root and WP off and I've frozen MotorolaOTA and Updater to prevent any OTA's from sneaking in.
mapki said:
Yesterday I updated to 4.4.4 (root still works, SuperSU survival enabled)
The problem is that Xposed Mod doesn't work anymore. It looks like write protection reenabled after update (checked it via PC and adb shell command)
Is there a way to fix that?
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I'm in the same situation. If you install/update xposed, then cancel the reboot and choose soft reboot, xposed will work. It took several attempts the first time for it to take, but eventually did. The down side is every time your phone shuts off or reboots, you have to reinstall and soft boot. Also, and this may be only me, but about one a day every app crashes at once and forces me to reboot and reinstall xposed. I'm assuming it's because of the framework not being properly written to the system. It's a pain in the butt, but xposed is worth it to me, so I've been dealing with it. Good luck
Wow we really needed a new thread about this. It had been discussed at length already. Did you not read any other posts in this forum.
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mapki said:
Yesterday I updated to 4.4.4 (root still works, SuperSU survival enabled)
The problem is that Xposed Mod doesn't work anymore. It looks like write protection reenabled after update (checked it via PC and adb shell command)
Is there a way to fix that?
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Search is your friend - discussed over and over in every other thread about 4.4.4.
I keep getting an error when doing the official update.. Anyone had the same issue?
bigv5150 said:
Wow we really needed a new thread about this. It had been discussed at length already. Did you not read any other posts in this forum.
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Words cannot expresses my frustration
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I keep getting an error when doing the official update.. Anyone had the same issue?
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while im rooted and wp off, i was going to take a leap and go to 4.4.4 it gave me an error on update too. update downloaded but failed on install.
i havent tried again. think SU may be blocking it? or safestrap is interfering? i have no idea. not really concerned about it.
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obeygiant said:
I'm in the same situation. If you install/update xposed, then cancel the reboot and choose soft reboot, xposed will work. It took several attempts the first time for it to take, but eventually did. The down side is every time your phone shuts off or reboots, you have to reinstall and soft boot. Also, and this may be only me, but about one a day every app crashes at once and forces me to reboot and reinstall xposed. I'm assuming it's because of the framework not being properly written to the system. It's a pain in the butt, but xposed is worth it to me, so I've been dealing with it. Good luck
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Thank you so much! That really helped
teerout said:
while im rooted and wp off, i was going to take a leap and go to 4.4.4 it gave me an error on update too. update downloaded but failed on install.
i havent tried again. think SU may be blocking it? or safestrap is interfering? i have no idea. not really concerned about it.
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Had similar problem. I reflashed 'boot' or 'recovery' (don't remember) via fastboot and it helped.
You can check update log in order to determine exact reason
Can we close this thread? This is like the 10th one on this topic
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Can we close this thread? This is like the 10th one on this topic
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Or just ignore it? It's not like this is a highly active device forum that these are getting in the way of something important.
Not you but the general attitude in this device's forums lately are sad. Yes people ask the same questions a lot, yes it's annoying for those of us that read everything, however you can't assume that everyone reads every post in every thread. It's very easy to just chuckle at the repeat offenders and move along. Beating people down because they asked a question that was already answered on page 45 of 79 in another thread is just as lazy as them not looking for the answer to begin with.
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Or just ignore it? It's not like this is a highly active device forum that these are getting in the way of something important.
Not you but the general attitude in this device's forums lately are sad. Yes people ask the same questions a lot, yes it's annoying for those of us that read everything, however you can't assume that everyone reads every post in every thread. It's very easy to just chuckle at the repeat offenders and move along. Beating people down because they asked a question that was already answered on page 45 of 79 in another thread is just as lazy as them not looking for the answer to begin with.
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No it is not and if you don't like the attitude of the devs in this forum then feel free to step up and make your own exploits.
Rule number 1 of the forum rules sticky is "search before posting". It is very appropriate to call someone out when they blatantly disregard those rules.
Don't get butthurt on someone for knowing the rules and trying to cut clutter.
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No it is not and if you don't like the attitude of the devs in this forum then feel free to step up and make your own exploits.
Rule number 1 of the forum rules sticky is "search before posting". It is very appropriate to call someone out when they blatantly disregard those rules.
Don't get butthurt on someone for knowing the rules and trying to cut clutter.
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Could not have proven my point better, thank you.
If anyone is "butthurt" it appears to be you. What exploits have you made by the way? Everyone has their place in the forums whether they be noob end-users or developers who create great things from virtually nothing. Remember the Golden Rule and things will be much better off.
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Could not have proven my point better, thank you.
If anyone is "butthurt" it appears to be you. What exploits have you made by the way? Everyone has their place in the forums whether they be noob end-users or developers who create great things from virtually nothing. Remember the Golden Rule and things will be much better off.
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Take a look around this community and then ask me what I've done for it again. It is users like you that have blatant disregard for rules and feel entitled that have made most of us apprehensive about helping anyone anymore.
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Take a look around this community and then ask me what I've done for it again. It is users like you that have blatant disregard for rules and feel entitled that have made most of us apprehensive about helping anyone anymore.
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If you want to flex your dev muscles please look around for what I've done as well. This isn't a contest. Please tell me where I've been entitled and/or shown a "blatant disregard for rules". You sir have some serious anger issues.
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If you want to flex your dev muscles please look around for what I've done as well. This isn't a contest. Please tell me where I've been entitled and/or shown a "blatant disregard for rules". You sir have some serious anger issues.
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Anger? No I'm not angry, i'm simply defending someone that you attacked for pointing out the rules. Just like @NWKENT @Caseyk621 @bigv5150 @Jaocagomez would
Furthermore i don't care what you have done for the galaxy community or the roms you made for their devices. We are talking here.
Anyway your argument is invalid and without basis. Attempting to show this to you is likened to speaking with a brick wall.
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Or just ignore it? It's not like this is a highly active device forum that these are getting in the way of something important.
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What does forum readership numbers have to do with posting integrity? Your crassness we do not need here.
aviwdoowks said:
What does forum readership numbers have to do with posting integrity? Your crassness we do not need here.
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Hey if you would rather have "devs" bashing people for asking questions than people simply answering questions or ignoring duplicate questions, so be it.
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what does it mean whn it jus shows a phone, a triangle in the middle, and a computer...it doesnt even boot to clockwork or the samsung screen? can this b fixed? this started after odin failed on me
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what does it mean whn it jus shows a phone, a triangle in the middle, and a computer...it doesnt even boot to clockwork or the samsung screen? can this b fixed? this started after odin failed on me
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Sounds like you were trying to revert back to stock. I assume the stuff you are talking about is yellow. If so try to use odin again.
The obvious question to me is, did you try Odin again after it failed? Logic would suggest that if Odin failed I'd have to do it again.
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The obvious question to me is, did you try Odin again after it failed? Logic would suggest that if Odin failed I'd have to do it again.
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This as well as learning to use Google instead of posting a thread on a forum.
It is because of your tar file on odin.it was two small.try re odin ing it with a tar file of 255 mb or something like that.happened to me before too when I was a super noob but fear not you'll eventually become less of a noob too as time passes
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at first it wouldnt go in to download mode. then tried like 5-6 times and it finally started again...i almost cried lol...seriously tho
thank you so very much guys
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This as well as learning to use Google instead of posting a thread on a forum.
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Stuff like this is why this forum is so bad. Why not just help the person out instead of posting search google.
im jus ignore the google guy...the ones that did help, i do appreciate it alot!
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Stuff like this is why this forum is so bad. Why not just help the person out instead of posting search google.
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So we are supposed to write out a detailed explanation to each one of these duplicate threads? I think not. This forum is out of control with this kind of ****. Oh, and talking about being helpful, it's reassuring to see that out of your 321 posts you have been thanked exactly zero times.
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Stuff like this is why this forum is so bad. Why not just help the person out instead of posting search google.
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im jus ignore the google guy...the ones that did help, i do appreciate it alot!
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Using google first saves you time because its an immediate response, it saves everyone else time having to an a simple question, and it saves our forums from being cluttered. I said nothing rude and I would have answered his question had it not already been answered (which I highlighted with my quote and saying "this"). If you want to respond to my adult advice and response by acting childish, that is your prerogative but I will continue to post help to those who made an effort to get it.
thats i guess meh cool but a simple reply/explaination would have been "flash odin again" instead of repeating the long rant over and over again too. maybe its jus best to leave this place altogether
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thats i guess meh cool but a simple reply/explaination would have been "flash odin again" instead of repeating the long rant over and over again too. maybe its jus best to leave this place altogether
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Maybe before voiding your warranty and messing with your $500 phone you should do some research and be prepared for the plethora of things that can go wrong.
ive been flashing roms since i got it in oct thank u and i havent been so dumb to hit this problem before. i think ive dont fine considering i dont ask for much from this forum but your the pro genius
nom303 said:
ive been flashing roms since i got it in oct thank u and i havent been so dumb to hit this problem before. i think ive dont fine considering i dont ask for much from this forum but your the pro genius
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I believe his point was, however, that before one starts an endeavor that can break a piece of $500 hardware one should generally make sure they understand all of the possible outcomes and how to deal with them which he pointed out that you didn't. He could have said it in a more polite manner but he was correct.
I have ben to this screen when my odin got interupted. Pull the battery for a couple minutes. Hold down the one key on the keyboard and then power on while holding it. This puts you in download mode. Odin back to stock.
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So we are supposed to write out a detailed explanation to each one of these duplicate threads? I think not. This forum is out of control with this kind of ****. Oh, and talking about being helpful, it's reassuring to see that out of your 321 posts you have been thanked exactly zero times.
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It appears I have one thanks or maybe I cant count. More than likely since I dont cry about wanting thanks that could be it. The purpose of a forum is to get help. Regardless if the answer could be found on google the forum would not need to exist. I am on one forum and it is the most mature forum there is. I see question repeated over and over again. Even in this case people still answer it like it was asked the first time. If all forums were like that, forums would be a much better place.
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It appears I have one thanks or maybe I cant count. More than likely since I dont cry about wanting thanks that could be it. The purpose of a forum is to get help. Regardless if the answer could be found on google the forum would not need to exist. I am on one forum and it is the most mature forum there is. I see question repeated over and over again. Even in this case people still answer it like it was asked the first time. If all forums were like that, forums would be a much better place.
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LOL what'd you do, pm someone and ask them to thank you? You def had zero when I posted that. You're right, forums are here for help. It is however a two way street. It seems clear that you think it's one way though. You are clearly here to be helped and not TO help.
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It appears I have one thanks or maybe I cant count. More than likely since I dont cry about wanting thanks that could be it. The purpose of a forum is to get help. Regardless if the answer could be found on google the forum would not need to exist. I am on one forum and it is the most mature forum there is. I see question repeated over and over again. Even in this case people still answer it like it was asked the first time. If all forums were like that, forums would be a much better place.
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I do not understand why it is difficult to simply search for an answer. If you cannot find the answer, then post and people will help. As I've stated I do very often provide detailed explanations to people even to those who had not searched for the answer however I always add that in the future they should seek out the answer on their own first. His question had been answered and as such I stated that he should try and figure things out on his own. I have never begged for a "Thanks" and I could care less about them but I have spent hours of my time helping others fix issues and there are many people who can attest to that. Leatherneck has done the same, in fact he has even helped me a few times that I can think of in recent history. On the other hand, the only posts I've seen from you are complaints about other users or asking other users for help. The point of these forums is to allow a place for developers to gather and together fix and hack away at new phones and such, not to aid in every little personal disaster. That is why it is a FORUM RULE to search. A rule for which violators can receive infringements or even bans. By telling people to search, I am not telling them to shut up I am showing people how to be an active member of this community and if you cannot grasp that then your place here is very limited.
Nom glad to help.why you ask you said thank you
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Kinda hard to tell, since you gave zero information. But I'd call bs since there's nothing about it in the bounty thread and it would be there immediately.
rpitera said:
Kinda hard to tell, since you gave zero information. But I'd call bs since there's nothing about it in the bounty thread and it would be there immediately.
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Click on the smiley, it's a link to a YouTube video.
I don't believe it and I'm not going to risk my phone trying.
rpitera said:
Kinda hard to tell, since you gave zero information. But I'd call bs since there's nothing about it in the bounty thread and it would be there immediately.
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Click on the emotocon.
HOFFABALBOA said:
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Lol, if you followed the root bounty/discussion threads you would have seen that video pop up several times... And that it doesnt work
an21281 said:
Lol, if you followed the root thread you would have seen that video pop up several times... And that it doesnt work
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Correct. It does not work. Just tried it. I really got excited when I found this. :crying:
This video was debunked a long time ago in the bounty thread.
Mods please close and delete this thread. I almost had a myocardial infarction....
jfriend33 said:
Mods please close and delete this thread. I almost had a myocardial infarction....
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Phfftttt. I was crying the river.
I have it temporarily rooted, it loses root upon reboot, please wait until I can get a script working. I have been granted temporary root via camera. It grants temporary root via USB Debugging turned on with MTP and all that turned off. I have been able to remove VZW Bloatware... no luck on bootloader yet though.
endafy said:
I have it temporarily rooted, it loses root upon reboot, please wait until I can get a script working. I have been granted temporary root via camera. It grants temporary root via USB Debugging turned on with MTP and all that turned off. I have been able to remove VZW Bloatware... no luck on bootloader yet though.
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If what you claim is true you should contact jdevs and take his help... I am sure, he can work his magic even with temp root... I doubt it though... Cuz u can't remove bloatware with temp root... So either u don't have it or u have permanent root! But again doubt that! No offence though..
endafy said:
I have it temporarily rooted, it loses root upon reboot, please wait until I can get a script working. I have been granted temporary root via camera. It grants temporary root via USB Debugging turned on with MTP and all that turned off. I have been able to remove VZW Bloatware... no luck on bootloader yet though.
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kidding right??
danger2u said:
kidding right??
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Considering the thread it's posted in....
danger2u said:
kidding right??
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Considering the thread it's posted in....
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And that he has 4 posts and 3 thanks, no images, no videos, no other information other than "I rooted it temporarily".
Hey guess what, I rooted this phone a month ago. I work for VZW as a system / software security expert and have access to their methods and scripts for bypassing their software security measures. See, anyone can post up anything for attention.
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And that he has 4 posts and 3 thanks, no images, no videos, no other information other than "I rooted it temporarily".
Hey guess what, I rooted this phone a month ago. I work for VZW as a system / software security expert and have access to their methods and scripts for bypassing their software security measures. See, anyone can post up anything for attention.
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Just because someone has 4 posts, and not known DOES NOT mean they are not capable of rooting a device. You are so quick to shoot someone down, if it is a fake, let it be, we don't need to here this comment every time someone claims to have found something... This forum is a discussion for who those who are interested in experimenting with their devices, no need for trolling just because someone has 4 posts and hasn't posted screenshots. If I were to discover a potential rooting vulnerability, I would not be posting screenshots, and I definitely wouldn't have the posts.
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Just because someone has 4 posts, and not known DOES NOT mean they are not capable of rooting a device. You are so quick to shoot someone down, if it is a fake, let it be, we don't need to here this comment every time someone claims to have found something... This forum is a discussion for who those who are interested in experimenting with their devices, no need for trolling just because someone has 4 posts and hasn't posted screenshots. If I were to discover a potential rooting vulnerability, I would not be posting screenshots, and I definitely wouldn't have the posts.
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Blah blah blah. Keep living in fantasy land.
LifeAsADroid said:
Blah blah blah. Keep living in fantasy land.
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So a few things:
1. You have no way knowing if its true or not yet.
2. Didn't you drop the Turbo? Why are you even here if you don't have the Turbo anymore other than to make such trollish comments?
3. This won't be the first time someone who doesn't live on a forum accomplishes something like this.
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So a few things:
1. You have no way knowing if its true or not yet.
2. Didn't you drop the Turbo? Why are you even here if you don't have the Turbo anymore other than to make such trollish comments?
3. This won't be the first time someone who doesn't live on a forum accomplishes something like this.
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So a few replies:
1. Deep down, yes we do. Whether you want to admit to the truth is another story.
2. Maybe get your facts straight on my business - let me enlighten you: Never had the Turbo. I'm smart enough to not buy a phone that is so locked down when I want a phone with root and/or an unlocked bootloader. If (not when) that ever happens I'll consider getting it, but chances are the '15 models are going to be out by then and the Turbo will be considered "an older phone". Right now I'm just following along on the (lack of) progress with rooting and keeping everyone in check with reality (or "trolling", if that's how you want to put it).
3. Unrelated since it isn't happening with this guy. I'd bet money he goes away just like the "VZW security rep" did in the bounty thread. I'd give you the link to his area in that thread if you don't remember him, but I'm not sifting through all the bs posted over there to find the exact location.
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So a few replies:
1. Deep down, yes we do. Whether you want to admit to the truth is another story.
2. Maybe get your facts straight on my business - let me enlighten you: Never had the Turbo. I'm smart enough to not buy a phone that is so locked down when I want a phone with root and/or an unlocked bootloader. If (not when) that ever happens I'll consider getting it, but chances are the '15 models are going to be out by then and the Turbo will be considered "an older phone". Right now I'm just following along on the (lack of) progress with rooting and keeping everyone in check with reality (or "trolling", if that's how you want to put it).
3. Unrelated since it isn't happening with this guy. I'd bet money he goes away just like the "VZW security rep" did in the bounty thread. I'd give you the link to his area in that thread if you don't remember him, but I'm not sifting through all the bs posted over there to find the exact location.
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Regarding number 2, I posed it as a question so no need to get my "facts" straight.
Blah blah blah. Keep living in fantasy land.
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That is nothing more than trolling and you know it.
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Regarding number 2, I posed it as a question so no need to get my "facts" straight.
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Now you know the truth, in case it comes up again why I'm still floating through these (ridiculous) root / bounty threads.
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That is nothing more than trolling and you know it.
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Lol, maybe, but seems an appropriate response for someone going on a rant, wanting really hard to believe that this guy ACTUALLY temp rooted this phone after I called the "rooter" out on his bs. Screenshots, images, pics of the whole phone, something would be better than just "Hey guess what, I rooted it."
Don't get me wrong, I'm not voting against the phone being rooted eventually. I'm just less inclined to creme all over my keyboard without some sort of believable hard evidence.
Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
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Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
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It's a yes or no question. The answer is no. You are asking for a maybe, when it's a no. If all the threads say it's unrootable, what makes you think making another thread will change that fact? Read the following if you want to know why:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62378933&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62380538&postcount=23
inetquestion said:
Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
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Root mostly comes from sources off of XDA. Very few attempt solutions in threads on XDA because of the constant "are we there yet?" posts. Most developers work in private chats.
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It's a yes or no question. The answer is no. You are asking for a maybe, when it's a no. If all the threads say it's unrootable, what makes you think making another thread will change that fact? Read the following if you want to know why:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...3&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...8&postcount=23
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Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
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Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62378933&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62380538&postcount=23
Your thread adds no value. You said yourself, that you have searched, and found your answer, yet still seek another because you simply don't like it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62378933&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62380538&postcount=23
Your thread adds no value. You said yourself, that you have searched, and found your answer, yet still seek another because you simply don't like it.
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If its no value for you, why not stop reading it? If you just want to be an ass, please proceed.
Do you believe something you read on the internet today remains true for all eternity?
Contrary to the evidence you've provided, I believe you are not that dumb... (am i wrong?)
Forums exist for a reason, and things change over time... its like magic.
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If its no value for you, why not stop reading it? If you just want to be an ass, please proceed.
Do you believe something you read on the internet today remains true for all eternity?
Contrary to the evidence you've provided, I believe you are not that dumb... (am i wrong?)
Forums exist for a reason, and things change over time... its like magic.
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Dude, get over yourself. OE1 isn't rootable and probably never will be. He gave you the answer. Too bad for you that it's not the answer you're looking for. Stop asking and accept that. All you can do is watch the thread and hope someone decides to work on it (good luck with that). You're asking for an update on something that doesn't exist. There is nowhere to follow development on it, like the MOD said, it's in private chats. Private means you're not invited, mostly because they don't want amateurs asking questions every minute. Just let it go and stop getting unnecessarily defensive when you get info you don't like!:good:
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If its no value for you, why not stop reading it? If you just want to be an ass, please proceed.
Do you believe something you read on the internet today remains true for all eternity?
Contrary to the evidence you've provided, I believe you are not that dumb... (am i wrong?)
Forums exist for a reason, and things change over time... its like magic.
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I respond because I like helping people and providing useful contributions as one should try to do when participating in a forum.
You say my post has no value, yet when I say your thread has no value, suddenly I'm an ass? Such hypocrisy. Not only does my post it address all of your questions, your theoretical maybe and your question of remaining the same for all eternity, it does more.
Even if this thread is "useful" to you in terms of information, not only have I provided you with sufficient theorycrafting which makes perfect logical sense (feel free to correct me if I am wrong), but you are looking for updates to a yes or no question, therefore, you are not providing any usefulness to those developers who may (yet very unlikely, see my links) still be working on root. Rather, you are bugging them. Your thread is useless, you only see my post as useless because the permalinks weren't working, which I fixed. Yet you still reply, and obviously didn't read the post because that post answers your question that you asked me after.
Also, you posted in the wrong section, in which, your thread was answered multiple times. Not only did I respond to you with valuable information, I originally said nothing about your faults. The moderator has moved your thread and has given you the same TL;DR answer I gave you. So you are still asking for a maybe to a yes or no question, which is currently no. So explain to me again, who is the one being rude here?
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I respond because I like helping people and providing useful contributions as one should try to do when participating in a forum.
You say my post has no value, yet when I say your thread has no value, suddenly I'm an ass? Such hypocrisy. Not only does my post it address all of your questions, your theoretical maybe and your question of remaining the same for all eternity, it does more.
Even if this thread is "useful" to you in terms of information, not only have I provided you with sufficient theorycrafting which makes perfect logical sense (feel free to correct me if I am wrong), but you are looking for updates to a yes or no question, therefore, you are not providing any usefulness to those developers who may (yet very unlikely, see my links) still be working on root. Rather, you are bugging them. Your thread is useless, you only see my post as useless because the permalinks weren't working, which I fixed. Yet you still reply, and obviously didn't read the post because that post answers your question that you asked me after.
Also, you posted in the wrong section, in which, your thread was answered multiple times. Not only did I respond to you with valuable information, I originally said nothing about your faults. The moderator has moved your thread and has given you the same TL;DR answer I gave you. So you are still asking for a maybe to a yes or no question, which is currently no. So explain to me again, who is the one being rude here?
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Your last reply is the only one which is slightly helpful... Odd you make snarky comments then get offended when others do the same. I didn't ask if it is rootable ( which would be a yes/no question), I asked something else. Your premise the post required a yes/no answer is a misunderstanding of the question. Clearly you don't know the answer, and that's OK. Why piss and moan about me not liking your snarky comments. If you're going to dish it, be ready to take it.
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Dude, get over yourself. OE1 isn't rootable and probably never will be. He gave you the answer. Too bad for you that it's not the answer you're looking for. Stop asking and accept that. All you can do is watch the thread and hope someone decides to work on it (good luck with that). You're asking for an update on something that doesn't exist. There is nowhere to follow development on it, like the MOD said, it's in private chats. Private means you're not invited, mostly because they don't want amateurs asking questions every minute. Just let it go and stop getting unnecessarily defensive when you get info you don't like!:good:
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You also seem to be of the opinion something which doesn't exist today cannot possibly exist in the future. Nice logic...
get over yourself indeed.
inetquestion said:
Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
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Your last reply is the only one which is slightly helpful... Odd you make snarky comments then get offended when others do the same. I didn't ask if it is rootable ( which would be a yes/no question), I asked something else. Your premise the post required a yes/no answer is a misunderstanding of the question. Clearly you don't know the answer, and that's OK. Why piss and moan about me not liking your snarky comments. If you're going to dish it, be ready to take it.
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Snarky comments? Are you talking about yourself? Look at your first response. I've even underlined it for you. Now look at the second underline. That's what you asked. And I answered your question in detail, in those links, which I'm sure you haven't read, because you wouldn't be continuing your redundant discussion. Even the moderator answered your question, and you still are insistent on pursuing a different answer just because you don't like it.
inetquestion said:
Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
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inetquestion said:
Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
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You need to read what the moderator wrote in post #3. I've quoted it below in case you missed it or just have reading comprehension problems. There is nowhere for you to read about the progress of developers working on root for this phone because if it is being worked on, the work is being done in private chat rooms which you won't be able to access. That is because they don't want to be bothered with the exact kind of "Are we there yet?" questions you are asking in this thread. And I will reiterate what has already been written in this thread. It is highly likely no one is working on root for this phone now, and it is highly unlikely anyone will be working on root for this phone anytime in the near future. You may not like the answer you are getting, but it is the only answer to your question at the present time.
This thread is as close as you are going to get to what you are asking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...lausible-to-jtag-to-rewrite-unlocked-t3184952
And the OP in that thread is technically not working on root for the phone, just an experimental and risky thought on a way to bypass the locked bootloader.
KennyG123 said:
Root mostly comes from sources off of XDA. Very few attempt solutions in threads on XDA because of the constant "are we there yet?" posts. Most developers work in private chats.
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You need to read what the moderator wrote in post #3. I've quoted it below in case you missed it or just have reading comprehension problems. There is nowhere for you to read about the progress of developers working on root for this phone because if it is being worked on, the work is being done in private chat rooms which you won't be able to access. That is because they don't want to be bothered with the exact kind of "Are we there yet?" questions you are asking in this thread. And I will reiterate what has already been written in this thread. It is highly likely no one is working on root for this phone now, and it is highly unlikely anyone will be working on root for this phone anytime in the near future. You may not like the answer you are getting, but it is the only answer to your question at the present time.
This thread is as close as you are going to get to what you are asking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...lausible-to-jtag-to-rewrite-unlocked-t3184952
And the OP in that thread is technically not working on root for the phone, just an experimental and risky thought on a way to bypass the locked bootloader.
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And that thread has 2 people having a discussion better left to dm, yet they continue. They're getting nowhere fast over there.
@landshark68
ldeveraux said:
And that thread has 2 people having a discussion better left to dm, yet they continue. They're getting nowhere fast over there.
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He likes ignoring facts too, but I answered this in his other thread about petitioning for the FCC to unlock the bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62406501&postcount=4
or as quoted here:
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...a failed bootloader exploit bricks the phone so that not even a JTAG will revive it.
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Which would nullify his entire thread of him trying to brick to unlock the bootloader.
Considering he's having "issues" bricking the phone... he doesn't have enough knowledge, just free time on his hands. He's probably going to just waste time soft bricking his phone.
But there's a simple logical explanation. If you have to unlock the bootloader to write unsigned code, i.e. a bootloader/custom rom, how would writing an unlocked bootloader work? That's like asking, how do you get the key to unlock a safe (if the key is inside the safe) so you can get your money? Replace a safe with an unlocked one? What happened to the money? Edit: on second thought, this is a slightly bad analogy, replacing the safe would be like getting the unlocked dev edition, but it still should get the point across.
He may as well just try flashing all the developer edition roms to his non dev phone (Note to new people: DO NOT do this), because those are all "unlocked firmware", exactly what he's trying to do.
He seems bent on arguing semantics, which is why I went back and forth with him but eventually stopped in his petition thread. But he's not rude like this guy, he just has a mindset that says, this is what I feel the answer should be, so it should work no matter what.
First off I'd like to thank everyone here that is quick and helpful
That being said
Here are some noob questions that answer I get might help others
I update to July tmobile patch
Here is what I need to know
Can I root pg1 and will I be able to revert back
And how Stable is root on pg1
Also all I really want on my root is volume booster
Thanks in advance guys
Sent from my SM-G935T using XDA-Developers mobile app
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First off I'd like to thank everyone here that is quick and helpful
That being said
Here are some noob questions that answer I get might help others
I update to July tmobile patch
Here is what I need to know
Can I root pg1 and will I be able to revert back
And how Stable is root on pg1
Also all I really want on my root is volume booster
Thanks in advance guys
Sent from my SM-G935T using XDA-Developers mobile app
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STOP POSTING START READING!
I've answered your questions already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/help/update-t3417357/post67796645#post67796645
AND
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67798689&postcount=313
Do NOT start a thread when your questions have already been answered!
As a matter of fact, read this too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=5278 (Specifically #1)
I'll be reporting this thread to be locked now. Good luck.
PS
I'm going to give you some advice. Do NOT root. You have NOTHING to gain from it (besides perhaps your volume mod.)
But your phone will run hot, slow and might even lock up. You might not even be able to restore it.
I will NOT help you any further because you fail to read.
Just leave it alone. It works and that's all you need. Don't even try to continue because you will mess something up sooner or later because you cannot find information for yourself. All it'll take is one member to give you wrong information or for you to miss a step or misread/misunderstand something and your phone is done. Garbage. You don't want that. So I say again, leave it alone. Please and thank you.
Relax buddy I made this so that us noobs can get help without messing up others post relax all I'm looking for is little and no aditude I get that from my wife lol
Thanks for answer those questions
I have rooted with no issue before pg1 had no issues fixed everything by reading here and asking few questions I went back to stock because I couldn't get my private photos and videos to work and I got update and came here for help that's all and only reason I quote you is because you seem smart and fast to respond.
Thanks
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Someone needs to get to first base real soon.
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Makave71 said:
Relax buddy I made this so that us noobs can get help without messing up others post relax all I'm looking for is little and no aditude I get that from my wife lol
Thanks for answer those questions
I have rooted with no issue before pg1 had no issues fixed everything by reading here and asking few questions I went back to stock because I couldn't get my private photos and videos to work and I got update and came here for help that's all and only reason I quote you is because you seem smart and fast to respond.
Thanks
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I am very relaxed. You did not make this for "noobs" because there are already threads and guides in place to help. I have never spoonfed another member with the same answers to the same questions more than you before. It's redundant and really not necessary to post your question more than once. Which you do. Then instead of reading the answers, you post a new thread with the same questions that I have already answered. You're simply wasting my time. Then you tell me to relax. What? I'm not giving you any kind of attitude, I'm giving you aggravation because you're constantly breaking forum rules, exhausting resources, taking the forum for granted, wasting the time of our members and then have the gulls to tell us to relax. However, if I did have any kind of attitude against you, I'm certain that anyone would blame me. I hope that I don't see another thread posting a question from you again unless it is something really original. Please search and read before posting from no one. Please and thank you.
Come on guys...
I am on PG1 and will be rooting again today. I will let you know how it is and also with Viper4Android installed.
I was on PD8 and he's right, it was overheating until I changed the CPU speeds and governor. My battery would drop so fast I could sit there and watch it go down. Lots of people are saying the new update gives them 9 hours screen time, so we'll see if its any better rooted.
The root method achieved so far is not good. It uses a ENG boot and causes way more issues for the phone than its worth. Unless you are a heavy modder and a experienced rooter its really not for the every day users. My advice is to NOT ROOT and wait for a better true root method to surface. You will just run into heat issues battery issues and a whole bunch of lost functionality.
Binary100100 said:
I've answered your questions already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/help/update-t3417357/post67796645#post67796645
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67798689&postcount=313
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Please keep the forum rules in mind when posting:
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Use one of our search functions before posting or creating a new thread. Whether you have a question or just something new to share, it's very likely that someone has already asked that question or shared that news.
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5. Create a thread or post a message only once.
As a large forum, we don't need unnecessary clutter. You're free to edit your message as you like, so if you do not receive an answer, revisit your message and see if you can describe your problem better. Not everyone is online at the same time so it might take a while before you receive an answer. (Also refer to Rule 16)
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Can anyone confirm or deny the engineering bootloader works or not on Nougat beta?
Move to QA sorry mod..
The current eng kernel does not work as it is for 6.0 (marshmallow) not 7.0 (nougat) Sorry!
d33dvb said:
Can anyone confirm or deny the engineering bootloader works or not on Nougat beta?
Move to QA sorry mod..
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I'm sorry but you've been told many times that it doesn't work so I don't understand why you had to make a new topic to get the same answer.
k1ska said:
I'm sorry but you've been told many times that it doesn't work so I don't understand why you had to make a new topic to get the same answer.
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Have you tried to flash it? I started the thread to discuss options, not just the first question. I really want to hear from someone who REALLY tried to flash the engineering bootloader.
d33dvb said:
Have you tried to flash it? I started the thread to discuss options, not just the first question. I really want to hear from someone who REALLY tried to flash the engineering bootloader.
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I tried it and it will not work as @CyanideHD already said. The phone will just bootloop because the rooted kernel is for 6.0 and not 7.
Since it is a beta, it wouldn't surprise me if there is another engineering kernel available, just not leaked yet. I wonder how the original was found.
d33dvb said:
Have you tried to flash it? I started the thread to discuss options, not just the first question. I really want to hear from someone who REALLY tried to flash the engineering bootloader.
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So, you really don't want correct answers by knowledgeable folks that know without trying sumpin stupid, that firmware needs a matching kernel,
Now can you tell us what you REALLY want to hear?
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez,
bobcaruso said:
So, you really don't want correct answers by knowledgeable folks that know without trying sumpin stupid, that firmware needs a matching kernel,
Now can you tell us what you REALLY want to hear?
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez,
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This is uncalled for. You could have just shut your mouth too. What value did YOU add?
How is me asking a legitimate question, that I could not find the answer for grounds for me not to procreate and call me a fool. Troll on douchebag.
And I mentioned the engineering bootloader, you really think I dont know about kernels? I was compiling them since redhat 2.0, all the way back before X.
I didnt ask about the kernel, but thanks. These kids need to stop wetting themselves, like we in the S7Verizon thread have so much to talk about, you couldnt stand a new thread.
Thank You MisterXTC and CyanideHD, I do value your advice.
You're quite welcome
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This is uncalled for. You could have just shut your mouth too. What value did YOU add?
How is me asking a legitimate question, that I could not find the answer for grounds for me not to procreate and call me a fool. Troll on douchebag.
And I mentioned the engineering bootloader, you really think I dont know about kernels? I was compiling them since redhat 2.0, all the way back before X.
I didnt ask about the kernel, but thanks. These kids need to stop wetting themselves, like we in the S7Verizon thread have so much to talk about, you couldnt stand a new thread.
Thank You MisterXTC and CyanideHD, I do value your advice.
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Many people told you and explained to you in the Nougat beta threads that it will not work yet you continued to ask when you didn't get the answer you wanted. You were no longer asking a legitimate question when you ignored the answers that you didn't want to hear and kept asking anyway. There might not be much to talk about on these boards but when you ask the same question over and over even after hearing the answer it really is just unnecessary. No one was trolling you, no one was lying to you and no one was hiding any information from you.
It sincerely boggles my mind that you ignored everyone who said it wouldn't work in the other threads. I wish there was a way to achieve root on Nougat but currently there is not and until someone far more capable develops a way, there will not be one. Continuing to ask about the engineering kernel will not help, neither will ignoring other people who are more knowledgeable than us on the subject.
You have been told multiple times that it will not work and that there is no root method for Nougat. Getting upset and offensive towards others will not help you by any means so please wait patiently as the rest of us are.
Also, Nougat is currently in closed beta. Until it is released there is almost 0 chance there will be a root for it. This thread would be more useful after it has released fully.
I wonder if the same vulnerability is in the nougat beta kernel, if so I wonder if that could be used for root on nougat. I doubt it is still available but worth a shot for those already on the beta.
I didn't get a response in the other thread so I started my own, quit being a baby about it.
Mod shut it down, the gods have spoken, not a place for questions. I forgot.
d33dvb said:
I didn't get a response in the other thread so I started my own, quit being a baby about it.
Mod shut it down, the gods have spoken, not a place for questions. I forgot.
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To be fair, you got several responses in the nougat thread. And if you didn't see them, its because you didn't read...
There is nothing wrong with asking questions, and its encouraged once you've attempted a brief search to make sure the question hasn't already been asked and answered. However, to ask a question several times in a thread, have that question answered by several people then start a new thread asking that SAME question, is looked down upon and for good reason. Just because you didn't get the answer you wanted to hear doesn't mean your question wasn't answered...
You've been around longer than I have, figured you'd know this.
Tell me kind sir, why would I want to hear what I want to hear? So I can get the worst possible outcome? I was asking TO hear an answer. I apologize that I didn't see the response, or maybe didn't validate someone who said 'wont work' with a post count of 5.
Thread closed as the OP has his answer and the thread has devolved into flaming.
Just a quick reminder:
5. Create a thread or post a message only once.
As a large forum, we don't need unnecessary clutter. You're free to edit your message as you like, so if you do not receive an answer, revisit your message and see if you can describe your problem better. Not everyone is online at the same time so it might take a while before you receive an answer.
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