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Hi, I'm about to root my n910f 4.4.4 btu but I just need to know what the root "breaks".
I already know S Health is one of the things which stop working but what else (if anything)
Next question, how do you "fix" the apps so they work again while the phone is rooted?
Thank you.
Chiller.
Chillerhippie said:
Hi, I'm about to root my n910f 4.4.4 btu but I just need to know what the root "breaks".
I already know S Health is one of the things which stop working but what else (if anything)
Next question, how do you "fix" the apps so they work again while the phone is rooted?
Thank you.
Chiller.
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S Health works perfectly fine after rooting. The only thing that it breaks is Knox (you won't ever be able to use knox anymore).
Shealth works of cours it breaks 2 things warranty XD and OTA ...well Knox works for me I rooted via towel root ....u can still get updates by disabling root temporary by using app on play store like root triangle away or something like that...and when u go to download mod ur Knox will trip and u can't fix that ...it won't affect u by any mean ...
sent from my GT I9505 5.0.1
navi dl said:
Shealth works of cours it breaks 2 things warranty XD and OTA ...well Knox works for me I rooted via towel root ....u can still get updates by disabling root temporary by using app on play store like root triangle away or something like that...and when u go to download mod ur Knox will trip and u can't fix that ...it won't affect u by any mean ...
sent from my GT I9505 5.0.1
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How on earth did you root via towelroot on a note4?
Eh!I did to my s4 d s5..for note 4 u got to wait anyway I gave answer according to ur question press thanks if it helped may be u can try mobogenie one click root...I m not sure about triping Knox....did u try towelroot on note 4 is it supported ? Get the app and check it out..
sent from my GT I9505 5.0.1
Everything works except knox wich for the vast majority is not a problem. Warranty is a question of luck, some repair centers doesn't care about knox triped but others refuse to repair in that condition.
navi dl said:
Eh!I did to my s4 d s5..for note 4 u got to wait anyway I gave answer according to ur question press thanks if it helped may be u can try mobogenie one click root...I m not sure about triping Knox....did u try towelroot on note 4 is it supported ? Get the app and check it out..
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Why would you even suggest towelroot on the note 4 forum? This is not S4 and it may cause bricks.
Dont u get what I m saying....I answered the question then he askd for the method ...so i told him what was the way I did...man read properly before coming to an conclusion
sent from my GT I9505 5.0.1
I rooted my first Note 4 and indeed after it was rooted S Health stopped working. Because the Note 4 had more issues I returned it to the shop and they exchanged it with a new one. My new Note 4 isn't rooted because of the S Health issue.
Dude, Root doesn't break S Health. I have it rooted since the fist day I owned it and tracks my fitness perfectly. Xposed is known to break S Health and Private mode but a Module fixes it. Right now I'm running the lastest Lollipop build and everything works perfectly fine.
The only thing that breaks is Knox. So if Samsung Pay comes to our device (right now is on S6) you couldnt use it as it requires a non triggered Knox. But, In my country, i doubt Samsung/Apple/Android pay will come to my near market.
S Health working fine on my rooted Note 4 too.
Root does NOT break S-Health. Something else did that, 100% sure. Most prolly Xposed or system bug. S-Health & Private Mode should work rooted for 99.99% of the time. the other times it's just individual phones thats the cause
Chillerhippie said:
Hi, I'm about to root my n910f 4.4.4 btu but I just need to know what the root "breaks".
Chiller.
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Toss3 said:
S Health works perfectly fine after rooting. The only thing that it breaks is Knox (you won't ever be able to use knox anymore).
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You loose Knox which is a very handy feature if you like to have multiple identities / accounts (facebook, instagram etc) Or if you have multiple relations with girlfriends (no spying woman) and you also loose payments with fingerprint verification (FIDO) Actually you loose anything that uses the FIDO API This is not fixable anymore when rooted
Hello,
I was wondering if the application "kingroot" is a good and trustable option to trust my device?
I also saw a site "oneclickroot.com" that looked intresting but after research I saw it's not trustable that they are out of your money.
Or what would you guys advice me?
It's not for intalling roms and so on. Just for other options that I want to root my device.
Greetings
CF-Auto-Root. It's the only way to go. And you can't without a PC.
ah owkey, and "kingroot" is unsafe then?
Oh and what about unrooting the device is that also possible with cf auto root?
And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/
Avanox said:
And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/
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Towelroot will simply not work on 5.0 (will reboot the phone after a while from clicking "make it ra1n" but no root access delivered)
For 4.4 you need GNF1 or older kernel for it to work - see HERE if you have newer version but still KK.
Ah ok and kingroot is also no option?
I m searching for the easyest way.
And is your way also possible to unroot?
The easiest way is CF-Autoroot, period. Flash it with the Odin software, let it deliver its payload, and you're done. If you want to unroot afterward, simply uninstall SuperSU.
Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.
If I use your method and I must remove it with time the root.
Is this the application that I will need to reset the trig knox flag to 0x0 ???
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
Greetings
I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.
Avanox said:
Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.
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Knox is some kind of security crap from Samsung. You can find more about it in the s4 general section or by googling it.
Knox default status is 0x0.
Tripping knox to 0x1 will voind your warranty.
1. rooting the the device is to have acces to the root of the phone so you can do more with your phone.
2. I want to root it because I want to have following options enabled at my phone.
* Moving programs to my sd card (not possible anymore without rooting)
* More control over 3G/4G/Wifi/Gps (from my computer) when phone is lost
* Set a security code on the phone factory reset (with avast root edition)
* Using less battery to let greenpower auto disable the 3G or wifi and so on.
At the moment this are the most important things for me.
Flashing roms and so on doesn't intrest me now , because everything is working fine.
Greetings Avanox
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.
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Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Ah owkey np.
Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox
So apparently you're still on Android 4.4.2, since Android 5.x removed the MicroSD card restriction. Is that correct?
As long as you are NOT on Android 5.x, you can root without tripping Knox, by downgrading the bootloader and modem to an earlier version, then running Towelroot. The drawback is that you won't be able to upgrade to Android 5.x. OTA updates won't function, and using Odin to upgrade wipes the /system partition, which will cost you root.
Regardless of the warranty, I personally would trip Knox and not lose any sleep over it.
Hey
Sorry for my double post.
Euh no, android 5.0.1 was already pre installed on this phone.
It is galaxy s4 black edition gt-i9515
Hmm maybe I must wait for a moment maybe there will come new safer methods
Greetings
The fact you have a value edition S4 changes things. You might as well flash CF-Autoroot now, because there are no safe methods for you. There are no custom ROMs either, but I digress.
@darrendude1: Rule number 1 of this site is to search before you post. The entire reason the rule is present is to avoid having people ask the same questions over and over again, simply because the question has likely been already answered. It applies regardless of whether you are a noob, senior member, recognized developer, or any other title the site may bestow.
In the case of the OP, you clearly didn't read the thread, because I explained to the OP exactly why I asked the questions. He understood why I asked them, and from there we have continued the conversation. To a noob, I would hope they would take rule 1 to heart, and actually did some research into what root is so they could actually explain why they think they need it.
Hi i rooted my samsung s8 (sm-g950fd) and after i wile i didnt need root any more so i falshed it with his stok rom and i get this eroor on s health & secure folder & ...
cant opened on a rotted device !!!
i want know how can i fix this ?? (samsung knox is not runnig too)
Cocoadownload said:
Hi i rooted my samsung s8 (sm-g950fd) and after i wile i didnt need root any more so i falshed it with his stok rom and i get this eroor on s health & secure folder & ...
cant opened on a rotted device !!!
i want know how can i fix this ?? (samsung knox is not runnig too)
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Once you root you trip Knox. Afaik you can't reset it so certain apps like Samsung pay and s health will stop working. In the future there may or may not be a way to reset it.
You have to root it again and install build prop from playstore, search of a line like this ro. Config tima=1 and turn the 1 to 0 and save reboot your device and it will work
bouyhy01 said:
You have to root it again and install build prop from playstore, search of a line like this ro. Config tima=1 and turn the 1 to 0 and save reboot your device and it will work
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i cant root agian becuse i done unroot becase some apps i have (business app) they dont work at rooted device and also there is a chance i give the phone to my brother and he is anti root persion and he heat root !!!!
if i root device then do it then unroot and after that do a factory rest this will be ok ??? app still work??? or not?
Cocoadownload said:
i cant root agian becuse i done unroot becase some apps i have (business app) they dont work at rooted device and also there is a chance i give the phone to my brother and he is anti root persion and he heat root !!!!
if i root device then do it then unroot and after that do a factory rest this will be ok ??? app still work??? or not?
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Nope, it won't.
Even if you factory reset your phone, the Samsung Knox trip will still be there, so you'll unable to use it.
Another option would be installing custom ROM that "tricks" apps into thinking that the knox is still on, but again, some apps might not work. In my case, when I still use a S7, my samsung gift app doesn't work anymore.
Well, if you really need to get S Health, I think this is the only option.
You should have done your learning before rooting. On ALL Samsung devices for the past 3-4 years, rooting was a one-way trip to trip Knox, and the only solution around that is patching the system so it thinks you still have Knox at 0x0.
Since Knox is a single eFuse that can only be written ONCE, you can NOT undo it. And you probably just lost your warranty.
I have downgraded my S Health version to 4.8 and now it works again - with knox tripped.
I used that version: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsun...ase/s-health-4-8-0-0085-android-apk-download/
Good luck
fonix232 said:
You should have done your learning before rooting. On ALL Samsung devices for the past 3-4 years, rooting was a one-way trip to trip Knox, and the only solution around that is patching the system so it thinks you still have Knox at 0x0.
Since Knox is a single eFuse that can only be written ONCE, you can NOT undo it. And you probably just lost your warranty.
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i know a lot of thing about rooting and i always rooted all of my devices for example my last devise was samsung s7 edge (fd series) i rooted and when i want to sell it i can do unroot and enable knox agian after that every thing was working but that way dont work on my samsung s8 and my problem is after last week update my phone will restart time to time and i search about that and the solution is enable knox agian and i dont know how to do it
fonix232 said:
You should have done your learning before rooting. On ALL Samsung devices for the past 3-4 years, rooting was a one-way trip to trip Knox, and the only solution around that is patching the system so it thinks you still have Knox at 0x0.
Since Knox is a single eFuse that can only be written ONCE, you can NOT undo it. And you probably just lost your warranty.
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i know a lot of thing about rooting and i always rooted all of my devices for example my last devise was samsung s7 edge (fd series) i rooted and when i want to sell it i can do unroot and enable knox agian after that every thing was working but that way dont work on my samsung s8 and my problem is after last week update my phone will restart time to time and i search about that and the solution is enable knox agian and i dont know how to do it
Cocoadownload said:
i know a lot of thing about rooting and i always rooted all of my devices for example my last devise was samsung s7 edge (fd series) i rooted and when i want to sell it i can do unroot and enable knox agian after that every thing was working but that way dont work on my samsung s8 and my problem is after last week update my phone will restart time to time and i search about that and the solution is enable knox agian and i dont know how to do it
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any body know how we must do it??
Great solution
Fusseldieb said:
I have downgraded my S Health version to 4.8 and now it works again - with knox tripped.
I used that version:
Good luck
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great solution my friend. you saved my day. thanks a lot. i installed that version started it up and even then got my update to 5.xx and still it is working great. i just bought s3 frontier and want it to work with gear. so thank you really much :good::good::good::good::good:
So the fix is to set ro.config.tima to 0. And install older version of shealth
KoalaKinG said:
great solution my friend. you saved my day. thanks a lot. i installed that version started it up and even then got my update to 5.xx and still it is working great. i just bought s3 frontier and want it to work with gear. so thank you really much :good::good::good::good::good:
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I am not able to install 4.8 on android 7 on a note 5.
Package is damaged error message!
Help please.
Thanks!!!
G.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-how-to-s-health-devices-knox-t3543306
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i used the guide installing the old apk activating it and then updating it... it's working 100%
Octoplus for samsung repair
for now, i would rather choose octoplus to repair the corresponding fault, another octoplus is a nice dealing way for samsung fault. thanks for the vipfixphone team.
fix S-Health and Apps Knox After Knox 1 trip
How To Fix S-Health And Apps Konx After Root OR Knox 1
Root Device
Install root Exloper Or any file exloper file system
Go To system
serach Buli.prob
open with editor or notpad++
serach for
ro.config.tima=1/2
change to
ro.config.tima=0
and save and repalce bulid
reboot device
I updated with odin to Oreo UK Fw .
All works well except S-Healt which claims that the phone is rooted (but I did not root and knox is 0/0) and does not start.
I tried to update S-Health but it does not work, and I can not install version 4.8 because I have this message: not installed
Unfortunately it is installed as a system app and I can only disable it and delete updates, but even so it works.
Tips?
I am having S8 G950F, my device is rooted with Magisk .. curently my phone is running renovate ice , i am using almost every day S health application without hiding the app from magisk, might because the rom is custom because on stock roms i think i couldnt open the app . But as the other guy said you can install a past version of S health
StonebridgeGr said:
.... But as the other guy said you can install a past version of S health...
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I can't install an older S-healt version, if I try the result is: "app not installed".
I can only install a newer version.
I try Knox status checker also, and it shows 0x0.
Is very frustrating this thing.
blekmacigno said:
I can't install an older S-healt version, if I try the result is: "app not installed".
I can only install a newer version.
I try Knox status checker also, and it shows 0x0.
Is very frustrating this thing.
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then try this guide .
http://www.**********.com/use-s-health-app-on-rooted-samsung-devices-with-tripped-knox/
Hi just got my s8 plus and I'm just wondering I want to root and been searching around about what tripping knox brakes but keep getting mixed views
I will be rooting and flashing a custom Rom and kernel would someone be kind enough to list every app that get broken and is not fixed even by a custom Rom or kernel (like iris scanner,s Health, ect)
As I really want to root but don't want to damage too many apps in the process
Many thanks also my model is the SM-G955F
brockyneo said:
Hi just got my s8 plus and I'm just wondering I want to root and been searching around about what tripping knox brakes but keep getting mixed views
I will be rooting and flashing a custom Rom and kernel would someone be kind enough to list every app that get broken and is not fixed even by a custom Rom or kernel (like iris scanner,s Health, ect)
As I really want to root but don't want to damage too many apps in the process
Many thanks also my model is the SM-G955F
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Samsung pay - permanently broken
Secure folder - permanently broken
That's it really
callumbr1 said:
Samsung pay - permanently broken
Secure folder - permanently broken
That's it really
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Cant they work with faked 0x0 knox kernel ?
Well if that's it then I'll go ahead and root as I don't use them 2 apps anyways
Thanks
nikexv2 said:
Cant they work with faked 0x0 knox kernel ?
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No unfortunately not, Knox is a fuse on the motherboard. Once tripped it burns. So far only way to get Knox back would be to change the motherboard
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No unfortunately not, Knox is a fuse on the motherboard. Once tripped it burns. So far only way to get Knox back would be to change the motherboard
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Yes but the apps and system dont read the statuts directly from the bootloader but from the kernel, this is why there is a kernel that has faked 0x0 knox, but the fuse is still blown yes.
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Yes but the apps and system dont read the statuts directly from the bootloader but from the kernel, this is why there is a kernel that has faked 0x0 knox, but the fuse is still blown yes.
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You can use terminal to change Knox to 0x0 but still. S health will work and some apps, but not secure folder or Samsung pay
so, knox tripped and rooted on stock unmodified rom :
safety net fail : (no apps like samsung pay, Pokemon go, Mario run, snapchat login ,etc)
no system updates
samsung apps won't work : samsung pass, samsung pay, Shealth, secure folder, issue with private mode on samsung internet,
if you use a custom rom most of stuff CAN be fixed like
safety net pass with magisk hide (root)
s health work
private mode on internet
BUT some are permanent and can't be fixed even with custom rom so once rooted , no way back except buy new phone
samsung pass, samsung pay, secure folder
Remember that once you are rooted and knox counter is tripped (0x1), its irreversible and can't be "unrooted" or be official and reset knox counter even by flashing stock firmware though odin because since galaxy s7 the knox counter is not software related but its hardware. its an electronic fuse and if you root or install custom recovery etc the electronic fuse will broke and broken fuse mean tripped knox counter. this is because even flashing stock firmware is useless, as most of Samsung apps knox related don't only check root but also the knox counter, so unroot won't help. so think twice before rooting your device
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You can use terminal to change Knox to 0x0 but still. S health will work and some apps, but not secure folder or Samsung pay
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Didn't know that, what's the command to do so ? I couldn't find anything on google
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Didn't know that, what's the command to do so ? I couldn't find anything on google
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su
resetprop -v ro.config.tima 0
Type that in terminal. It will make Knox show 0x0 on device ONLY. Download mode will still show as 0x1.
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Didn't know that, what's the command to do so ? I couldn't find anything on google
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its useless, Samsung knox apps dont check if they see 0x0 but it just put some electricity though the knox fuse and if it get though it its ok but if the electricity dont success to get through the fuse it mean its broken so I mean knox is 0x1 and rooted.
fake knox counter is useless as every knox eligibility checks are hardware and not software. fake 0x0 is only for you ^^to reset the counter only way is the replace the motherboard, even Samsung can't reset it
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its useless, Samsung knox apps dont check if they see 0x0 but it just put some electricity though the knox fuse and if it get though it its ok but if the electricity dont success to get through the fuse it mean its broken so I mean knox is 0x1 and rooted.
fake knox counter is useless as every knox eligibility checks are hardware and not software. fake 0x0 is only for you ^^to reset the counter only way is the replace the motherboard, even Samsung can't reset it
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There has to be some hardware abstraction layer, you can't just test the fuse each time, that would mean that the apps have really low level rights/api to do so wich is risky. The bootloader tests the fuse and writes the value to the kernel, wich can be faked to make some apps work.
If the value is checked by apps then there is a software value other than the hardware status.
But dont quote me on that.
For apps that dont work i think there is some selinux policies issues or root gets detected.
Why would devs include the fake 0x0 counter if it was useless ?
darn making me think twice about rooting now i mainly want it for debloating,apps ad blocking,viper4android,and a few mods like stereo speaker and camera mod
also the youtube mod which allows us to stream 4k (i know we only have 2k display) but i still like to stream in 4k
brockyneo said:
darn making me think twice about rooting now i mainly want it for debloating,apps ad blocking,viper4android,and a few mods like stereo speaker and camera mod
also the youtube mod which allows us to stream 4k (i know we only have 2k display) but i still like to stream in 4k
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I have rooted for the exact reasons you stated above. Wouldn't go back even if I could. Using the terminal code I posted allows you to use some apps that rely on 0x0. Samsung health is one of them as I use it every day.
callumbr1 said:
I have rooted for the exact reasons you stated above. Wouldn't go back even if I could. Using the terminal code I posted allows you to use some apps that rely on 0x0. Samsung health is one of them as I use it every day.
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to be honest ive rooted every device ive had dating back to the htc hd2 lol
that's why i sent the xperia xz premium back was due to locked bootloader which looks near impossible to root
ill properly root i just didn't want to destroy any apps which made any hardware not work properly but if everything works (apart from samsung pay and secure folder) which i don't use both then should be worth the trip lol :silly:
brockyneo said:
to be honest ive rooted every device ive had dating back to the htc hd2 lol
that's why i sent the xperia xz premium back was due to locked bootloader which looks near impossible to root
ill properly root i just didn't want to destroy any apps which made any hardware not work properly but if everything works (apart from samsung pay and secure folder) which i don't use both then should be worth the trip lol :silly:
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And also I can confirm Samsung pass doesn't work also. However I never use it so that doesn't bother me. To be honest I would root just for viper4android. And I use android pay instead of Samsung pay which also works perfect
Still haven't rooted yet darn cart make my mind up I've rooted every phone I've had and it's the first thing I normally do :silly:
Does anyone think there will be more knox apps coming out which if knox is tripped we will be missing out on
Or what if Samsung make a few more apps go through knox like s health or iris scanner then we would be stuck then lol
I don't know miss the good old days where you could just go back to stock no worrys
brockyneo said:
Still haven't rooted yet darn cart make my mind up I've rooted every phone I've had and it's the first thing I normally do :silly:
Does anyone think there will be more knox apps coming out which if knox is tripped we will be missing out on
Or what if Samsung make a few more apps go through knox like s health or iris scanner then we would be stuck then lol
I don't know miss the good old days where you could just go back to stock no worrys
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I don't think they will release anything else knox related. At least not for the s8 anyway
S health and iris scanner work perfect now after root, they won't implement them into knox status don't worry.
callumbr1 said:
I don't think they will release anything else knox related. At least not for the s8 anyway
S health and iris scanner work perfect now after root, they won't implement them into knox status don't worry.
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Thanks I'm going to have to root I miss it too much I've given it 3 weeks and I've never used secure folder or Samsung pass so I won't miss them and Samsung pay although i haven't used I will miss lol
Isn't android pay ment to be better anyway?
Thanks again
brockyneo said:
Thanks I'm going to have to root I miss it too much I've given it 3 weeks and I've never used secure folder or Samsung pass so I won't miss them and Samsung pay although i haven't used I will miss lol
Isn't android pay ment to be better anyway?
Thanks again
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I had to root for viper4android amd I'm not running renovate ROM and it so much better than stock.
In my opinion android pay is better and it's supported in many places. But that's my opinion.
If you root I recommend rooting with magisk. So you can use magisk hide and modules. Good luck and post here if you need any help :good:
i have previously rooted my S7 Edge, but I am now looking to sell it, so I already put it back to factory settings and stock rom, Now when I try to open Samsung pay it says unauthorized modifications have been made to my device so it cant use Samsung pay. Is there a way to fix this and keep the phone on a stock rom?
No currently known method. You have irreversibly tripped your Knox e fuse by rooting it. Rendering Samsung pay permanently disabled.
Maybe you can sell it as rooted? Not sure how the second hand market for phones work, but maybe more desirable to some?
I won't ever use Samsung Pay. But Samsung's ridiculous insistence of permanently marking a phone that has had any form of customisation (remember, more than just rooting trips Knox) and then disabling a service they offer as a result, even if you take that phone completely back to stock, is precisely why my S7E is the last from them I'll buy.
F**k them, in short.
i thought if you just reflash it with the original firmware through odin, you'll be able to use it back. I did it with my rooted verizon s7edge, then reflash it with u firmware and i can just use samsung pay normally.
You're mistaken. If you rooted your phone, you tripped Knox, which on this architecture is an efuse that you can't rectify. This will stop Samsung Pay working indefinitely no matter what ROM you run, stock or otherwise.
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You're mistaken. If you rooted your phone, you tripped Knox, which on this architecture is an efuse that you can't rectify. This will stop Samsung Pay working indefinitely no matter what ROM you run, stock or otherwise.
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then my phone, however unlikely it seemed, must have not understood it correctly that it must function that way. Because between august and now, I rooted my G935V, then I reflash G935U firmware through ODIN and rooted the phone again, and I ended up going back to using it without root. I still can use samsung pay in the device. Swearsies realsies. Although I dont have that level of faith and certainty to break knox in my G955U.
As far as I know, there are root methods that does not trip Knox eFuse, what, for sure, will trip Knox eFuse is installing unofficial ROMs.
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then my phone, however unlikely it seemed, must have not understood it correctly that it must function that way. Because between august and now, I rooted my G935V, then I reflash G935U firmware through ODIN and rooted the phone again, and I ended up going back to using it without root. I still can use samsung pay in the device. Swearsies realsies. Although I dont have that level of faith and certainty to break knox in my G955U.
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True. I did the same.The first thing i did was root my S7 edge. But i didnt like it (too much lag) and went back to stock(odin).After that,everything is working Including Samsung Pay.I dont know why people are saying that you cant use Samsung Pay after odin the stock firmware.
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True. I did the same.The first thing i did was root my S7 edge. But i didnt like it (too much lag) and went back to stock(odin).After that,everything is working Including Samsung Pay.I dont know why people are saying that you cant use Samsung Pay after odin the stock firmware.
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If I have to guess, this may have something to do with SD vs Exynos, because my snapdragon Verizon s7edge able to use spay after reflashing it to U firmware via ODIN. However, when I re-flash my s8 exynos with odin to some unlocked firmware, it recognize that I have tripped knox and voided my warranty. Although this one had TWRP and unlocked bootloader.
I just rooted my s7 Edge SM-G935F to load the Oreo Rom posted this week. After getting the poor Wifi I re-flashed it back to stock and was surprised (yes I know - I should have read first) that S-Health and Samsung Pay refused to work.
Bit of a pain as I have a Gear S3 also, which has lost functionality.
But, I have reflashed several times since, trying to get everything back to stock, including restoring from a Samsung Switch backup.
I have no idea what I did, but after one of the flash processes, Samsung Pay started working fine - I added my cards etc. no problem. As S-Health wasnt working, I tried to edit the system files to fix that...
And ended up doing another flash and Samsung Pay is broken again.
So there is something that allows Samsung Pay to work after Knox has been tripped. Unfortunately, I cannot replicate it again, so it may just be a random bug.
Samsung Pay and S Health not working after rooting.
Once you modify your S7 Edge and trigger knox you cannot use Samsung Pay again, even if you re-flash stock firmware. But S Health you can but you have to flash Marshmallow 6.0 firmware and set your phone up from start and update all your apps and then open S Health and set it all up. Then just go to software update settings OTA ( Over the Air ) and update your phone to the latest firmware Nougat 7.0 and when your phone restarts after updating automatically go to S Health and it'll work. There may be a simpler way of doing it but thats how I did it after stupidly rooting my S7 Edge SM-G935F Exynos European unlocked BTU firmware.
You can use shealth by just editing a line in build.prop but not samsung pay.
i try any way for worked s-health but heartrate sensor dont work any more after rooting...how can fix this sensor worked again ?
But does not work at all? I would like to root my Exynos S8 but I like the loyalty card feature because the ability to use it even in old barcode scanners, I can't find any other app that can use the IR blaster for doing that.
It's the only feature that I wouldn't want to lose... As I pay with my bank app that can work with Magisk Hide.
Enviado desde mi SM-G950F mediante Tapatalk
S-pay Workng on a rooted phone
I don´t know how but suddenly i get spay working on a knox tripped and rooted phone,.... So it´s possible!
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You're mistaken. If you rooted your phone, you tripped Knox, which on this architecture is an efuse that you can't rectify. This will stop Samsung Pay working indefinitely no matter what ROM you run, stock or otherwise.
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this is incorrect. i have a galaxy A8 (2018) and i tripped knox on it about 5 months ago and have not been able to use samsung health, but have used samsung pay just fine. I got tired of the inability to use sammy health and decided to flash twrp and magisk to block ads (since i wasnt getting the benefit of not being rooted) and lost use of samsung pay. I am going to do the process mentioned below and see what it yields.
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then my phone, however unlikely it seemed, must have not understood it correctly that it must function that way. Because between august and now, I rooted my G935V, then I reflash G935U firmware through ODIN and rooted the phone again, and I ended up going back to using it without root. I still can use samsung pay in the device. Swearsies realsies. Although I dont have that level of faith and certainty to break knox in my G955U.
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i hope this is the fly in the ointment. Knox isnt the issue, its something else that has yet to be discovered. As stated above, my knox has been tripped for quite some time and sammy pay worked without issue. My issue only surfaced after flashing twrp and magisk
following up on the issue of tripping knox causing samsung pay to not work. Ive been back on stock firmware, unrooted with knox DEFINITELY tripped for the last few weeks, and i can happily report that it works fine both on the phone and my Gear S3 Frontier. Knox is NOT the culprit
youdoofus said:
following up on the issue of tripping knox causing samsung pay to not work. Ive been back on stock firmware, unrooted with knox DEFINITELY tripped for the last few weeks, and i can happily report that it works fine both on the phone and my Gear S3 Frontier. Knox is NOT the culprit
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Pay doesn't work on my S8+ G955F Pie beta 4 with tripped knox. It says that the service is unavailable and I must reboot my phone...
XerKy said:
Pay doesn't work on my S8+ G955F Pie beta 4 with tripped knox. It says that the service is unavailable and I must reboot my phone...
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pie beta 4. hmmmm. how did you get this ROM on your phone? if youre rooted, then no SPay for you. You can restore the functionality of SPay by downloading the stock firmware from sammobile.com and flashing it via Odin
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pie beta 4. hmmmm. how did you get this ROM on your phone? if youre rooted, then no SPay for you. You can restore the functionality of SPay by downloading the stock firmware from sammobile.com and flashing it via Odin
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I downloaded the Pie rom from the XDA forum and flashed it with SD Card. I'm not rooted but have a tripped knox, so I think no SPay for me. I already downloaded the stock firmware from sammobile, but I had the same issue.