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Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, my main concern is - How are the black levels gonna be? I absolutely LOVE SuperAMOLED - Mainly, the blacks - I LOVE THEM and I'm sure many other users do. I don't know if the LG's black levels are gonna be as good or better? Does anything know that?
I have a choice to jump from the Gnex to the Nex4 but if the screen's black levels aren't as good - I probably won't.
What's your opinion about the screen?
Go look at a One X, it'll be similar to that (which is SO much better than the GNex screen - IPS ftw!!)
Yeah but the black levels
It definitely won't be as good. The question is, will it be good enough.
The apparent high end screen on my laptop has a rubbish black level. So I'm also hoping the Nexus 10 has good blacks, so I can use that for media instead.
But did you look at the Htc One X screen, or atleast youtube it?
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Yeah I've used the One X a lot of times and I'm not impressed at all. The color reproduction is good but the black levels don't amaze me, at all. I feel that my nexus' screen is much better than the OneX (Just my opinion, don't pounce on me)
With AMOLED, the blacks are black because the led's are switched off, it doesn't try make the colour "Black".
LCD screens do not do this. So blacks will be grey, but colours and viewing angles WILL be better. Another thing, AMOLED is a battery drain with anything other than the colour black.
OLED screens will always have darker blacks than LCDs. That's just due to the nature of how each type of screen technology works.
I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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But your question meant that you don't. If you know this, then you should know about LCD too...
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I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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They will probably be as good as any IPS LCD on the market. LG makes very good smartphone displays, including iPhone 4/4S/5 displays.
Just look at the present ips screen on the LG top model phones, i'm sure the nexus 4 will be similar.
The blacks will not be the same as others mentioned but it's a tradeoff. Super amoleds have good contrast and blacks but the ips lcd's I've seen had better color accuracy and sharper images. I like amoleds but the whites and other colors aren't that good and the brightness isn't high enough for my taste. I look forward to seeing the n4 up close
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I have mixed feelings as well regarding the screen of the new Nexus 4. I also own a Galaxy Nexus, and aside from the black levels, there is another area where the AMOLED screens shine: motion handling. LCDs tend to blur images in fast motion, motion resolution isn't usually very good. This is very noticeable when watching action films or sports, for example.
However, AMOLED screens are very fast thus their motion handling is on par (or even better than) with plasmas, which gives you crisp and clear images even when moving (blur ocurring depending on the shooting conditions but that's a whole different story).
So, to summarize the differences between the screens:
- The screen of the Nexus 4 will be slightly clearer, the pentile matrix used in the AMOLED screen makes it slightly more "blurry", although due to its high pixel density that's usually hard to see.
- The screen of the Galaxy Nexus has perfect blacks, the screen of the Nexus 4 doesn't. The point is, will its blacks be "black enough" even for multimedia? "Black enough" is very subjective...
- The screen of the Nexus 4 will probably handle motion worse than the Galaxy Nexus one. The point again will be if it handles motion well enough.
It seems that the screen of the Nexus 4 is slightly better for reading and web browsing but slightly worse for multimedia. I only have a Galaxy Nexus (no access to HTC One X, etc) so anyway I can't really compare.
Well it all depend on taste. I think the IPS screen for me will be better for contents consumption. Text clarity is a very important factor for phones and RGB array IPS excel here. Better color accuracy is the most important factor for me, without the banding, retention and dark spots that I deal with on AMOLED. I only fear of the chance of backlight leakage that can happen with regular LCD.
I know the response time of the OLED screen have very fast, but I don't do heavy gaming on small mobile devices. It also have ultra wide angle view and wider color gamut (poorly tuned however). I also like its performance outdoor and contrast. But it can be s battery eater.
Also I missed the curved glass of the AMOLED screen, before anyone say the Nexus 4 screen is curved, by what I see from the verge video it isn't, only the external glass seems to be and just a little by the edge, not the same effect.
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eksasol said:
Well it all depend on taste. I think the IPS screen for me will be better for contents consumption. Text clarity is a very important factor for phones and RGB array IPS excel here. Better color accuracy is the most important factor for me, without the banding, retention and dark spots that I deal with on AMOLED. I only fear of the chance of backlight leakage that can happen with regular LCD.
I know the response time of the OLED screen have very fast, but I don't do heavy gaming on small mobile devices. It also have ultra wide angle view and wider color gamut (poorly tuned however). I also like its performance outdoor and contrast. But it can be s battery eater.
Also I missed the curved glass of the AMOLED screen, before anyone say the Nexus 4 screen is curved, by what I see from the verge video it isn't, only the external glass seems to be and just a little by the edge, not the same effect.
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The Nexus 4 will have better viewing angles than the AMOLED.
Sunlight will probably be better too. Colours will be more realistic, and battery life will be lower apart from on a black screen.
I don't like the oversaturated colors of amoled screens, and true colors are important in my work, so I much prefer a good IPS screen. Too bad about the blacks though.
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I hope the Nexus 4 display will be better. On my Gnex whenever I watch videos with dark scenes or blackground, I get this noise/artifact thing in the background. Do you guys get that? Also, black is technically not completely black on the Gnex because the pixels do light up a little for faster switching. There are a few threads in the Gnex forum that talk about that. It is only noticeable when there is very little or no ambient light. You can test it by going to a dark room and open an image that is completely black. You will see some dim light coming out from the AMOLED.
I would have to say my biggest concern is how the screen will perform in the direct sunlight. Of the phones I've had the gnex does best in direct sunlight. Very easily readable and use able in direct sunlight. All my other phones have been washed out in the sun. They where some form of lcd's, but not any of the newer generation super performing lcd's that are out now. The HTC Rezound I had was the best LCD screen I've owned. Amazing picture but suffered in the sun.
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I hope the Nexus 4 display will be better. On my Gnex whenever I watch videos with dark scenes or blackground, I get this noise/artifact thing in the background. Do you guys get that? Also, black is technically not completely black on the Gnex because the pixels do light up a little for faster switching. There are a few threads in the Gnex forum that talk about that. It is only noticeable when there is very little or no ambient light. You can test it by going to a dark room and open an image that is completely black. You will see some dim light coming out from the AMOLED.
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I think that's either black crush like the original note had or the black spots which nearly all amoled screens get because of the way they are produced.
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I was playing around with the GS4 yesterday and the screen probably impressed me the most. I held it next to the GS3 and it was quite a bit better: sharper and brighter.
I haven't had the opportunity to look at the One yet, but I have to think the GS4 is a strong contender for the best phone screen. Of course it depends on your preference for AMOLED versus LCD; I probably prefer the former.
So to those who have been using the phone: how would you rate the screen? Do you consider it a big jump over the GS3 and how would you compare it to other phone screens, especially the One?
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I was playing around with the GS4 yesterday and the screen probably impressed me the most. I held it next to the GS3 and it was quite a bit better: sharper and brighter.
I haven't had the opportunity to look at the One yet, but I have to think the GS4 is a strong contender for the best phone screen. Of course it depends on your preference for AMOLED versus LCD; I probably prefer the former.
So to those who have been using the phone: how would you rate the screen? Do you consider it a big jump over the GS3 and how would you compare it to other phone screens, especially the One?
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WAY better than GS3 but trades shots with the One.
I prefer a larger screen with true blacks so I prefer the GS4's screen. If you prefer a smaller screen and colour accuracy then the One's screen would be better.
"The best" is highly subjective. For instance, if you prefer outdoor visibility, it's still nowhere near iPhone or the One. That said, I prefer (properly calibrated) AMOLEDs for the contrast ratios and superior blacks despite all the drawbacks
Personal preference, really.
I have a One, and I have had a look at the S4 display. I have to say both displays look great.
You like Amoled then this is the best, if you like LCD real colors then One is the best. Personally prefer the One display.
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It really depends on your preference. I have owned all the Galaxys, and some sony/HTC`s and i will say it is not.
There is no doubt the S4 screen is amazing, but only when it comes to colours. After using the S4 for a period of time, my eyes is starting to get tired. And thats because of the deep, saturated colours.
In the end it comes up to your personal preference. For me the Xperia Z/One is the best one. Nothing beats watching a movie on an LCD-panel.
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While I love the screen on my GS4, I must humbly admit the SLCD3 screen in the HTC One is superior. While the blacks aren't completely black because it can't shut off pixels like AMOLED does, it's blacks are however very very impressive, color accuracy and sharpness are also more superior on the HTC One as well (the S4's Adobe RGB mode, aka (Professional photo) looks off a bit, especially on reds, so don't be fooled into thinking this option will make up for the inferior color accuracy). The only downside to the HTC One's screen, is it's only 4.7" which is a knock in my opinion as I prefer a larger screen.
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It really depends on your preference. I have owned all the Galaxys, and some sony/HTC`s and i will say it is not.
There is no doubt the S4 screen is amazing, but only when it comes to colours. After using the S4 for a period of time, my eyes is starting to get tired. And thats because of the deep, saturated colours.
In the end it comes up to your personal preference. For me the Xperia Z/One is the best one. Nothing beats watching a movie on an LCD-panel.
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So use Adobe RGB mode...
No it has really bad ghosting.
One of the best. I've recently switched to "movie mode" as various professional display reviewers have noted this mode as having the most accurate colors and I've been loving it. Feels more like an LCD which I used to prefer. I was also surprised at the amount of additional detail I'm seeing in movie mode that were not present in standard (for instance, the tapatalk app icon)
You will need a day to adjust from standard mode, but once you do I'm betting the standard will be hard to look at for you.
The resolution and PPI speak for themselves, obviously.
Edit: great info here http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm
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Note 2 screen looks great. No pen tile.
my gnote2 is bigger than your puny iPhone.
The s4 screen has a wow factor since the colors pop and the blacks are inky. The One's screen is great too much IMHO, the I prefer the S4 since it is bigger and more vibrant. The One's screen is like looking at the Iphone's screen but bigger since even on the Iphone you can't see pixels so it didn't wow me as much.
Guys i just compared my s3 to also mine s4 and must say the s3 display is sharper and I see more details on it. I just run few same clips on both. Can someone confirm it.
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Samsung displays are horrible when it's outside in bright sunlight.
If you want vibrant colours they are the best. If you want realistic I'd say the One and iPhone 5 are the best. The movie mode is very good on the S4 but it's not as well calibrated as the iPhone 5s screen. Looking in the forum the S4 has ghosting/smearing and some weird pink tint issues. AMOLED screens also are poor in daylight and can get burn in.
Now that it has an option to show accurate colors. Displaymate rate it on par with iPhone 5 which is rated as the best LCD screen they tested in a mobile phone. For me SGS4 is the best out there simply because it offers best of both worlds. There is a mode to show vibrant colors which I personally like especially when watching movies. LCD will pale in comparison next to AMOLED which can show pitch black . It is still Pentile arrangement however I tried hard looking closely as I can and men I can't see any pixels or cross hatch pattern that I can detect on SGS3. I even think that it's icons are much sharper compared to iPhone 5. Now that the Pentile weakness has been totally eliminated by ridiculous 441 pixels per inch. Is there another phone out there that can beat this in terms of display?
From Displayemate which is world renowned for display diagnostics
Comparing the Galaxy S4 with the LCD Display on the iPhone 5:
The iPhone 5 is now more than half way through its product cycle, which is important to keep in mind for our comparison. However, high-end LCDs like the iPhone 5 are a very mature and refined display technology, so other than screen size, resolution, and the Pixels Per Inch not much is likely to change in the next generation, no matter what Apple decides to do. The iPhone 5 is significantly brighter than the Galaxy S4, particularly for screens with mostly peak white backgrounds. Its color calibration is a bit better, although the Galaxy S4 has a more accurate White. The Galaxy S4 has a much bigger screen, higher resolution, higher PPI, much darker blacks, and better screen uniformity than the iPhone 5. They each have their own particular strengths and weaknesses, but if you scan our color coordinated Comparison Table below, both displays are quite good and comparable overall – so it’s currently a tie – we’ll see how they both evolve and improve in the next generation…
http://www.displaymate.com/
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm#Table
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Note 2 screen looks great. No pen tile.
my gnote2 is bigger than your puny iPhone.
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With the current pentile matrix they are using and as high density as the 1080P display is, it doesn't affect the quality of the display.
Pentile really is no longer a useable arguement.
Seriously guys, calibration is not an issue. As long as you can get rid of that blue tint, I'm sure you'll get Perseus kernel with top calibration. I do on my Note II and it's absolutely perfect, if not better. Properly calibrated, AMOLEDs have an advantage when it comes to the contrast ratios.
Brightness still sucks though.
I've alway thought Samsung screens always looked too blueish and not so true to life. HTC always seems to get it right when it comes to screens. Just my opinion.
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The ones slcd is superior to the sgs4... Yes the colors are more vibrant and black is real black... But there are too much downsides in my opinion:
- White just doenst look white - ok and full brightness, but not below that
- Loss of detail in dark areas
- Low brightness on automode (even on +5)
- Low brightness on maximum brightness (the ones slcd is superior in sunlight)
- Burn-In
- Pentile - still visible for me
- Smearing / ghosting
- power consumption on browsing
- red black (fixed?!)
Any information on the screen technology used on the S5?
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Any information on the screen technology used on the S5?
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I think its still pentile.
I was just on Google searching for this without answer. I didn't watch the live event but I'm going to assume it's pentile, I've seen no reference of a "plus" following the display type sadly
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if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.
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if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.
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You can't know what samsung have done inside 5.1 AMOLED FHD screen. I thing color will more accurate and brighter.
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I meant in terms of pixel count and total subpixel count.
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I saw errica,s mini review. She said it is still pentile.
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That's got to suck...
Samsung has been stuck on the 1080p pentile since S4.
I bet the Note 4 will also be pentile.
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Does it really matter? I see this PenTile thing as pure whining, you'll never notice it in a 1080p screen unless you put your device under a microscope to use it.
Yes it does matter. And I am not whining because the screen technology has not improved after three devices.
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Yes it does matter. And I am not whining because the screen technology has not improved after three devices.
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So apply for a job at Samsung and teach them how to do it.
Seriously, S3 -> S4 was 720p to 1080p jump.
S4 -> S5 was the "screen now is brighter and can be very dim" jump.
I think you are complaining just because you were fool enough to believe the rumours.
Interesting article comparing the two technologies here
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-has-a-pentile-display-what-is-it-and-why-should-you-care/
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if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.
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Of course it will have technological improvements. The Note 3 was also "just" 1080p pentile and DisplayMate called it one of the best screens ever they tested, 600nits of brightness in auto mode under sunlight, improved color accuracy and more efficient operation. You bet the S5 screen is further improved, as well as SW modes to choose the most colorful or most accurate for your liking... this phone is only a disappointment if you judge by the looks, so far it's very promising all around.
If you guys missed it during the launch, s5 has brightest led screen ever made by Samsung @500 nits. Pentile vs rgb argument is a total bull**** for phones with full hd screens
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If you guys missed it during the launch, s5 has brightest led screen ever made by Samsung @500 nits. Pentile vs rgb argument is a total bull**** for phones with full hd screens
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It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.
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It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.
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The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
pihx said:
It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.
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from what i have heard from Francisco z2 is the best screen sony has come up with so far... if im not wrong its the lcd screens that loses color at max brighntess
BoneXDA said:
The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
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then we have to wait for actual results to know what samsung bragged about the screen during the launch
Its not pentile. Geex. I can't believe anybody has pointed out it is still diamond array RGBG. BIG improvement over pentile. Not going to lie though. Even though the RGBG looks fine and comparable to a standard RGB screen I wish it was at least like the galaxy note 2 or moto X screen. RBG with a bigger blue pixel. Looks awesome, can't tell it's not standard RGB stripe and it is efficient. I think the gnote2 and moto x so far have had the most efficient AMOLED screens so far.
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Its not pentile. Geex. I can't believe anybody has pointed out it is still diamond array RGBG. BIG improvement over pentile. Not going to lie though. Even though the RGBG looks fine and comparable to a standard RGB screen I wish it was at least like the galaxy note 2 or moto X screen. RBG with a bigger blue pixel. Looks awesome, can't tell it's not standard RGB stripe and it is efficient. I think the gnote2 and moto x so far have had the most efficient AMOLED screens so far.
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It's PenTile.
The diamond is the arrangement, but it is still PenTile (just as LED HDTVs are still LCD with the LED simply describing the backlight). As you said, it's RGBG (another combo used by Moto was RGBW). RGB is the preferred subpixel layout. But seriously, the layout could be stripe, diamond, or it could be in the shape of a penis for all anyone cares, RGBG is PenTile.
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The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
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So are you saying that the Note 3 is significantly brighter than N2?
I can barely see my phone under the Sun
Maybe Google has taken cuts with the phone?
I hear the moto x 2014 compared to galaxy S5, the screen difference is pretty big.
One uses amoled and one uses super amoled. Hopefully the 2k resolution will help the brightness and vibrancy.
What do you guys think? I haven't held a moto x and S5 together but I absolutely love the S5 screen.
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If anything, the 2k screen will be less bright...
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Resolution has nothing to do with brightness or vibrancy
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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Huh? You don't push light through pixels with amoled screens. Per pixel brightness is certainly not affected by resolution, perhaps only with LCD screens.
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It's harder to push light through more pixels, so sure you can get a stronger backlight, but then you get more power consumption and heat.
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Amoled displays don't have backlights, the display itself is the source of light.
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My mistake, completely forgot that part about AMOLED. Been using IPS screens since I had a Galaxy Nexus, and that screen was junk.. so I've been wanting to stick to IPS. My G3 is gorgeous, so I'm kinda scared to see the N6 with AMOLED.
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Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Mura affects aren't really part of amoled. Oled screens it is like on my ps Vita
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RedBlueGreen said:
Maybe Google has taken cuts with the phone?
I hear the moto x 2014 compared to galaxy S5, the screen difference is pretty big.
One uses amoled and one uses super amoled. Hopefully the 2k resolution will help the brightness and vibrancy.
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AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
Are you sure cause the S2 with Super AMOLED was significantly better than their regular AMOLED models like the GNEX.
HTC One M8
I've not used AMOLED since my Galaxy Nexus, but it was horrendous. Banding visible all over the screen on grey or beige (light colored) screens.
Plus, it had burn in on the status bar that I could always see on full screen youtube videos etc. Was terrible.
I'm wondering have they improved the hardware technology since then or can I expect that again on the Nexus 6,
Look forward to the reviews on here after launch. :laugh:
The OCD fanboys who buy the first wave will be busy detailing the issues. I used to be one of them. I'll wait till the second wave this time. haha :good::laugh:
gtalum said:
AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
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Super AMOLED is based on AMOLED a technology, but has an integrated digitizer instead of it laid on top, making it brighter and more vibrant. It also reflects less sunlight than a standard AMOLED screen.
It is their marketing term, but does have some modifications
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gtalum said:
AMOLED is the screen technology. "Super AMOLED" is just Samsung's brand name for their own screens using AMOLED technology, not a separate technology. It remains to be seen what the Nexus 6 screen looks like when compared to Note 4.
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jmm22 said:
Super AMOLED is based on AMOLED a technology, but has an integrated digitizer instead of it laid on top, making it brighter and more vibrant. It also reflects less sunlight than a standard AMOLED screen.
It is their marketing term, but does have some modifications
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Imagine if they used non pentile
This is a quick pull from wiki explaining the difference between all amoled screens
Super AMOLED[edit]
Super AMOLED is Samsung's term for an AMOLED display with an integrated digitizer, meaning that the layer that detects touch is integrated into the screen, rather than overlaid on top of it. According to Samsung, Super AMOLED reflects one-fifth as much sunlight compared to the first generation AMOLED.[21][22] The display technology itself is not changed. Super AMOLED is part of the Pentile matrix family. It is sometimes abbreviated SAMOLED.
For the Samsung Galaxy S III, which reverted to Super AMOLED instead of the pixelation-free conventional RGB (non-PenTile) Super AMOLED Plus of its predecessor Samsung Galaxy S II, the S III's larger screen size encourages users to hold the phone further from their face to obscure the PenTile effect.[23]
Super AMOLED Advanced[edit]
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Super AMOLED Advanced is a term marketed by Motorola to describe a brighter display than Super AMOLED screens, but also a higher resolution – qHD or 960 × 540 for Super AMOLED Advanced compared to WVGA or 800 × 480 for Super AMOLED. It also is 25% more energy efficient. Super AMOLED Advanced features PenTile, which sharpens subpixels in between pixels to make a higher resolution display, but by doing this, some picture quality is lost.[24] This display equips the Motorola Droid RAZR.[25]
Super AMOLED Plus[edit]
The Samsung Galaxy S II, with a Super AMOLED Plus screen
Super AMOLED Plus, first introduced with the Samsung Galaxy S II and Samsung Droid Charge smartphones, is a branding from Samsung where the PenTile RGBG pixel matrix (2 subpixels) used in Super AMOLED displays has been replaced with a traditional RGB RGB (3 subpixels) arrangement typically used in LCD displays. This variant of AMOLED is brighter and therefore more energy efficient than Super AMOLED displays[26] and produces a sharper, less grainy image because of the increased number of subpixels. In comparison to AMOLED and Super AMOLED displays, the Super AMOLED Plus displays are even more energy efficient and brighter. However, Samsung cited screen life and costs by not using Plus on the Galaxy S II's successor, the Samsung Galaxy S III.[18]
HD Super AMOLED[edit]
Galaxy Note II subpixels representation, based on 400X image of the Note II display[27]
The Galaxy Nexus, with an HD Super AMOLED screen[28]
HD Super AMOLED is a branding from Samsung for an HD-resolution (>1280×720) Super AMOLED display. The first device to use it was the Samsung Galaxy Note. The Galaxy Nexus and the Galaxy S III both implement the HD Super AMOLED with a PenTile RGBG-matrix (2 subpixels/pixel), while the Galaxy Note II uses an RBG matrix (3 subpixels/pixel) but not in the standard 3 stripe arrangement.[27]
HD Super AMOLED Plus[edit]
A variant of the Samsung Galaxy S3 using Tizen OS 1 was benchmarked using a non-pentile HD Super AMOLED Plus screen in 2012.[29]
Full HD Super AMOLED[edit]
As featured on the Samsung Galaxy S4[30] and Samsung Galaxy Note 3. It has the broadest color gamut of any mobile display of up to 97% of the Adobe RGB color space, hence making it a wide-gamut display.[31][32]
Future[edit]
Future displays exhibited from 2011 to 2013 by Samsung have shown flexible, 3D, unbreakable, transparent Super AMOLED Plus displays using very high resolutions and in varying sizes for phones. These unreleased prototypes use a polymer as a substrate removing the need for glass cover, a metal backing, and touch matrix, combining them into one integrated layer.[33]
So far, Samsung plans on branding the newer displays as Youm.[34]
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OMFG are people here really this clueless? Samsung calls ALL their AMOLED panels Super AMOLED. That includes the ones they sell to Motorola and Nokia. They are ALL made by Samsung. The reason why the Moto X 2014 doesn't look as good as the Galaxy S5 is because Samsung ALWAYS sells the last generation to their competitors and saves the latest generation for themselves. In other words what you see on the Moto X is the same tech as the Galaxy S4, not the S5. And for those dumb people who keep on saying higher resolution means lower brightness, this is only true for LCD since they use a backlight and it has to shine through each pixel, with more pixels decreasing the brightness overall. AMOLED is completely different in that each pixel is its own light source and when you pack them together, they will be brighter not dimmer, just like how your vanity mirror in your restroom will be brighter with three small 600 lumen bulbs near each other versus just one 900 lumen bulb.
theoneofgod said:
Black ink spots kill AMOLED screens for me.
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Ah yes, now I remember those black spots too.. what exactly caused those and can we expect this on the N6?
Hopefully screen burn is a thing of the past, especially with the nav and status bars going transparent on the home screen.
If the display is PenTile, that will probably kill it for me right away. I can't stand the fuzziness that comes with that junky setup. I bought a Yoga 2 Pro and noticed it right away which is part of why I returned it. I also hate how AMOLED has a very blue/green hue to it.. guess we'll see how the N6 turns out.
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For me both suck... cause of degradation of the organic led.. colors become toned... and burn in issue.. they are simply inadequate.. expecially at that price...
From what I recall Samsung makes all AMOLED displays so you should expect it to be great. Google wouldn't put a bad display on a flagship phone.
Nitemare3219 said:
Ah yes, now I remember those black spots too.. what exactly caused those and can we expect this on the N6?
Hopefully screen burn is a thing of the past, especially with the nav and status bars going transparent on the home screen.
If the display is PenTile, that will probably kill it for me right away. I can't stand the fuzziness that comes with that junky setup. I bought a Yoga 2 Pro and noticed it right away which is part of why I returned it. I also hate how AMOLED has a very blue/green hue to it.. guess we'll see how the N6 turns out.
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screen burn isn't a thing of the past.. beacause the technology il still the same.. organic led degradate with use.. losing brightness and uncalibrating all screen colors (this with homogeneous wear) but some elements like status bar icons and navbar buttons are always in the same position!! And they will burn in inevitably
Pilz said:
From what I recall Samsung makes all AMOLED displays so you should expect it to be great. Google wouldn't put a bad display on a flagship phone.
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nexus 4 & 5
In other words what you see on the Moto X is the same tech as the Galaxy S4
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There is a slight difference between the moto X 2014 and S4 screens.
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Super AMOLED is a version of AMOLED display technology that integrates a capacitive touchscreen layer directly into the display instead of overlaying it on top of the display, as has traditionally been done. This results in a thinner design that uses less power and reflects less light, and as a result works better outdoors.
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I've been doing a bit of research about these different types of displays. After using a couple of IPS displays and comparing them side-by-side to AMOLED displays, I'm beginning to have a different perspective. IPS just looks stunning. Not to say AMOLED looks bad or anything, but in the past I was more inclined towards AMOLED. As someone who has experienced burn-ins with previous AMOLED displays, I can say that it really does suck.
IPS displays are generally better for outdoor viewing, are brighter (usually), have better viewing angles, more realistic colors and don't burn in. On the other hand, AMOLED displays have colors that "pop", have very deep blacks, and don't require a backlight.
Hell, go to your local carrier store/Target/Best Buy/whatever sells electronics and take a look at the Samsung phones like the S5 and phones with IPS displays. Every AMOLED display I saw in stores had a tremendous burn-in. I wish I could have taken pictures but I didn't have my phone with me at the time. Granted, the phones on display are turned on all day and are usually stuck on one image as long as they are display phones which leads to the rapid burn ins. But the fact still stands.
As you guys know, the Nexus 6 is going to have an AMOLED display. Now, this isn't real research or anything but there is something that I have noticed when I look over all of the hands on pictures from sites like TheVerge, TechCrunch, etc. The Nexus 6's display isn't the brightest dip=splay out there. Actually, it looks pretty dim. Of course there aren't real reviews yet but this is just speculation on my part.
What do you guys think? Are the trade-offs worth it? For those that do own phones with AMOLED displays, have you had burn in on your screen? How long do you guys think the Nexus 6 can last before it potentially burns in?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DChnGXLErrI
http://www.androidauthority.com/amoled-vs-lcd-282084/
Amoled
I personally like OLED, but mostly for the contrast. My question though is if the Nexus 6 will have a Pentile or RGB subpixel layout. I hate Pentile. Also, brightness is not the biggest factor in sinlight readability, its reflectivity that matters. Many OLED screens have low reflectivity, so the sun isnt bouning into your eyes and making the display look dim. And i have heard that higher pixel densities burn in less, but that is not something i have seen proof of.
Amoled if its same tech like on the Note 4 (same generation) IPS if it was high quality one like on the iPhone 6.
I prefer IPS LCD because I've tried my fair share of Samsung AMOLED devices and all of them have greenish-yellow tints and grainy colors. Not to even mention the pathetic brightness levels.
I would've preferred a well calibrated 1080p IPS LCD. It'd easily look as sharp as the 1440p Pentile AMOLED, while at the same time improving battery life and GPU performance.
Amoled for me. I really like the colors and viewing angles of it. Not to mention the low power emission and active display compability. No lightbleeding issues,too.
After using an IPS display for ages now with my N4 I would love to use an AMOLED display where colours did not seem so washed out and true blacks can be had (which since darker colours are easier on my eyes I prefer it).
The only worry I have is Burn In, but if I have heard correctly a lot of Burn In issues have been resolved with later devices. I really hope this is true.
I prefer Amoled as the ips tech I dealt with had issues with light bleed & other weird anomalies
Ips is way better.
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Yes, the only reason I'd pass is the fact that it's an OLED display. I always get burn in, I told myself never again but I will be buying the N6.
It depends of the display's generation and calibration.
If it's on par with the AMOLED screen of the Note 4, I prefer AMOLED screen.
But an IPS Display as good as the one used in the iPhone 6 plus is better than every older AMOLED screen.
alex989898 said:
It depends of the display's generation and calibration.
If it's on par with the AMOLED screen of the Note 4, I prefer AMOLED screen.
But an IPS Display as good as the one used in the iPhone 6 plus is better than every older AMOLED screen.
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nexus 6 is amoled and the note 4 is super amoled..huge difference
hello00 said:
nexus 6 is amoled and the note 4 is super amoled..huge difference
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I don't know if other manufacturers have the right to use the terms "Super AMOLED" or if it's patented by Samsung.
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I don't know if other manufacturers have the right to use the terms "Super AMOLED" or if it's patented by Samsung.
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i think if u compare the note 4's screen with the s5 you will see the difference
I definitely prefer IPS, but I've really been wanting that Ambient Display. Can't have both, so to me the best compromise is AMOLED, paired with an LCD wearable. I'll have that with my N6 and 360.
Great topic, especially considering the screen is what we all look at every single time we use our phone. This is definitely a "preference" thing.
I've had a few phones (both newer and older display techs) and I know for myself, a photography enthusiast, I prefer color correctness and white whites over "true blacks" ON MY PHONE. I watch my Panasonic Plasma TV for true blacks (and even those aren't 100% true).
AMOLED's (pre GS5 & Note4 and I've yet to view either) burn-in and have image retention and their whites are beyond horrible. Of course most wouldn't even notice this until they put their phone right next to a IPS LCD. You can always "get used to" or "learn to like" the screen your viewing. Until you put it next to something else. Even then a lot of us will believe the one we have is the best. All comes back to personal preference
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i think if u compare the note 4's screen with the s5 you will see the difference
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I think both are marketed as "Super AMOLED" no ? (But I know that the screen of the Note 4 is better)
But that's not my point. My point is that even if Google comes with the same screen as the Galaxy Note 4, I'm not sure that they can use the terms "Super AMOLED" (exactly like you can't use the term "Retina" if you are not Apple).
What's it look like when the screen burns in? Is that when it leaves like a shadow of something like an app you used in the background no matter what? Because my friends s3 has snap chat burned into the background.
Does this happen with all amoled screens? And if it does will warranty exchange it? Because I use my phone a lot and don't want to risk something like this. I. have lots of friends with the s4 and s5 and none have this issue. The only one who has it is with his really old s3.
I don't really care about true whites and deep black's or whatever. When I had the nexus 5 it looked yellow but with my g2 it's really nice. It doesn't matter though because I don't notice it unless I compare it to another phone. And I really like how the colors look on the Samsung Galaxy s tablet so if Motorola's amoled screen is anything like that I'll love the colors. And I like that theres no back light to cause light bleed like in the nexus 5 and nexus 10 (notorious for it).
But I'm gonna do some research on amoled now and see what I find out. I really hope the newer phones like this especially at this price don't have issues
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abdel12345 said:
What's it look like when the screen burns in? Is that when it leaves like a shadow of something like an app you used in the background no matter what? Because my friends s3 has snap chat burned into the background.
Does this happen with all amoled screens? And if it does will warranty exchange it? Because I use my phone a lot and don't want to risk something like this. I. have lots of friends with the s4 and s5 and none have this issue. The only one who has it is with his really old s3.
I don't really care about true whites and deep black's or whatever. When I had the nexus 5 it looked yellow but with my g2 it's really nice. It doesn't matter though because I don't notice it unless I compare it to another phone. And I really like how the colors look on the Samsung Galaxy s tablet so if Motorola's amoled screen is anything like that I'll love the colors. And I like that theres no back light to cause light bleed like in the nexus 5 and nexus 10 (notorious for it).
But I'm gonna do some research on amoled now and see what I find out. I really hope the newer phones like this especially at this price don't have issues
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It happen only on older phones. Both my S2 and S3 have burn-in issues (keyboard and notification bar are burn-in on both) but my GS4 GPe is fine.
But the Tab S use a recent gen of AMOLED and are very well calibrated. Motorola's smartphones never use the latest AMOLED screens (it seems that Samsung doesn't sell them)
I want black to be black and no light bleed..
Note 4 seems to be an extremly good display that can have really correct colors.
And high brightness... Hope Nexus 6 have just as good display..
my Note 2 have notification bar burn in..
Sorry for my bad english.
Amoled display is the best I ever seen, so glad that on nexus 6 I will finally have it.
True black, the highest view angles, more colors.