I know there's much to be gained from using a custom rom but I'm just wondering what I will lose if go for an AOSP based rom like CyanogenMod?
I'm presuming things like the Samsung Camera app (is image quality affected?), Smart stay etc. What about Multi-Window, can I get that back?
No multiwindow, no camera (not last time I saw anyway), GPS issues I think, no smart stay, scroll, air view, air gesture, ultra power saving, smart pause, ripple lockscreen, finger print, toolbox and pretty much everything non hardware that makes your s5 an s5 and not a nexus.
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Thanks for the info. Hopefully they'll get CM11 fully working soon. I was under the impression that you could sideload some apps like Multi-Window, is this not true?
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really like the screen on note 2 especially on reading text, watching movies and hd pics. But the ui on the touchwiz looks bad. Especially the homescreens.
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Install Nova launcher. And change the icon set to stock jelly bean from Nova launcher settings.
But can we use S Pen with other launchers?
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Yes. As long as you are on a stock TW Samsung rom...u can use the spen features with any launcher as these features require only the TW framework.
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Yes. As long as you are on a stock TW Samsung rom...u can use the spen features with any launcher as these features require only the TW framework.
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Actually you can use the S Pen on any rom that works on a Note 2. Jelly Bean supports stylus or finger entry. The stock rom is necessary to enable all the features. Once you move away from a stock rom you lose features like Page Buddy, pop up S note when you pull the pen out, beep when you walk away and do not put the pen back, the hover features, the handwriting to text keypad feature and the ability to to select and save a part of whatever with the stylus. You can use Freenote or similar software to do things like add handwritten whatever to any saved item such as a map, screenshot and photos or create handwritten memos, notes etc-all of which can be shared. I use a non stock rom, use the stylus and do not miss the Samsung add ons.
I'm sure some people have figured this out and there might even be a post about it, but I just wanted discuss what I've done to get some S-pen functionality back and to hear about what you've done. I just flashed ParanoidAndroid 3.1 and it's absolutely awesome. I didn't think I'd like not having the Samsung apps but I'm easily getting over that. I'm an avid pen user so naturally I'm doing everything I can to continue using. (Yeah it's like a drug to me.)
So, here's what I have going on:
I use GMD Spen control (found on the market for $$) to retain some gestures and add a few of my own. Unfortunately the frequently used screenshot tap is Samsung only so I'm at a loss there. It works excellent tho.
I use Catch Sketch to replace S-note. So far this app works great. The pen selector seems has a bug on the last pen and looks a lil goofy but it's basically the same as S-note. It seems to lack the color copy feature but it might show up when your coloring on a photo or something.
I use Swype that I downloaded from their actual website to retain the write to text feature.
So that's what I'm working with. If anyone has suggestions or things you've found work better please let me know!
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zjs23 said:
I'm sure some people have figured this out and there might even be a post about it, but I just wanted discuss what I've done to get some S-pen functionality back and to hear about what you've done. I just flashed ParanoidAndroid 3.1 and it's absolutely awesome. I didn't think I'd like not having the Samsung apps but I'm easily getting over that. I'm an avid pen user so naturally I'm doing everything I can to continue using. (Yeah it's like a drug to me.)
So, here's what I have going on:
I use GMD Spen control (found on the market for $$) to retain some gestures and add a few of my own. Unfortunately the frequently used screenshot tap is Samsung only so I'm at a loss there. It works excellent tho.
I use Catch Sketch to replace S-note. So far this app works great. The pen selector seems has a bug on the last pen and looks a lil goofy but it's basically the same as S-note. It seems to lack the color copy feature but it might show up when your coloring on a photo or something.
I use Swype that I downloaded from their actual website to retain the write to text feature.
So that's what I'm working with. If anyone has suggestions or things you've found work better please let me know!
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The only thing missing for me is the ability to take snap shots of certain parts of the screen. With the Samsung stock rom I like to be able to circle parts of the screen and cut them out. I have not found any AOSP alternative to this yet. So for now I just take a full screen shot and then crop out the bits I need. Only an extra step but hey ho.
Yeah I completely forgot about that feature. Hopefully someone will be able to make similar applications soon. But they'll probably end up replaced and obsolete soon anyways lol
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Hey guys I have an question to you.
Does it happen to you when you write on the screen with the S-Pen and you put it away, that for one to two seconds your screen doesn't react to fingerinput? No matter what app I use this happens but not in Samsung roms.
I don't generally use the s-pen, except to show off the bigger Note's flagship features to awestruck noobs. I moved to 4.2.2 but came back to a Sammy firmware based ROM yesterday, due to some issues. I used to play with the S-pen a lot when I bought the phone. There's one great s-pen app that I like, though - Scribble Racer.
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I use these apps and I'm comfortable using them
1. My story for sending letters with style (lots of options)
2. Handrite pro (like s-note) buttl batter
3. PaperArtist (paint)
4.picsArt (paint)
Some photos so u can have some idea
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dirtydeangelo said:
I use these apps and I'm comfortable using them
1. My story for sending letters with style (lots of options)
2. Handrite pro (like s-note) buttl batter
3. PaperArtist (paint)
4.picsArt (paint)
Some photos so u can have some idea
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ROM : cm10.1 nightly
kernel : WizDom13 1.01
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Yep. S-Note isn't the best for anything really. I was a fan of Lecture Notes for quite a time, now I'm using Papyrus which isn't quite as customisable but makes up by being lighter and faster. It's quite adequate for my humble needs.
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I just dont have the safe feeling without my samsung apps eventhough I used apex but the feeling of samsung is gone.And im sure you would want a rom build out of a samsung note 2 source rather than a aokp or cm10.1 or even aosp or aospa sources as to me I feel it lacks of a samsung felling.battery life definitely sucks too.and to relate back to the spen well I wouldnt want to remove the spen feature even seldom use it.cuz snote sometimes comes in handy too.
You can use a gesture to take a screenshot with the S-Pen with this app, and edit the screnshots.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...2Vjb2xkYXBwcy5zY3JlZW5zaG90dWx0aW1hdGVwcm8iXQ..
But yeah can't do the selection thing.
I wish one of the note apps had floating windows.
This app is interesting, but no way to save or anything (yet).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flyingbusstudio.snappadfree
What about handwriting recognition w/ keyboard? And airview? Handrite looks fine, will have to check it out, but I keep going back to S Notes - funny
because I don't really love it either :/
Awesome Note is great, and doesn't work as seamlessly on AOSP as it does with TW, but the size is too tiny for my liking anyways, on Note II since it's optimized for Note 8.
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You can use a gesture to take a screenshot with the S-Pen with this app, and edit the screnshots.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...2Vjb2xkYXBwcy5zY3JlZW5zaG90dWx0aW1hdGVwcm8iXQ..
But yeah can't do the selection thing.
I wish one of the note apps had floating windows.
This app is interesting, but no way to save or anything (yet).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flyingbusstudio.snappadfree
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I can not make it work with the s-pen screenshot ultimate pro
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Gmd spen control is the best app for rooted note2 for both aosp and tw
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I found this screenshot app called screenshot ER ... perfect to use with GMD spen controller
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Gdm spen controller
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Not sure if this is mentioned before but sketchbook mobile works amazingly well on note 2. Also s pen sensitivity on android 4.2 is much better than android 4.1.2
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i care less about s note and stuff, however the thing that i will miss if i switch to an aosp rom would be Multi windows and Air view!
can anyone provide apk for photo editor which can be found in samsung app store ??
or provide me samsung app store for note 2 so that i can download it by my own ?
You guys should have a look at this nice S Memo clone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798117
TarikVaineTree said:
You guys should have a look at this nice S Memo clone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798117
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Great app. Maybye this link should be posted in the Theme's and Apps section.
I use Papyrus, very nice S-pen app
(never used touchwiz before)
Maybe S-Pen menu won't appear?
What about multiple windows on a single screen?
etc.
How deeply touchwiz was integrated in Note 3 case?
If you change your launcher - all TW funcionality: multiwindow, s-pen will work too I recommend google now launcher. Simple and fast
darkkain said:
If you change your launcher - all TW funcionality: multiwindow, s-pen will work too I recommend google now launcher. Simple and fast
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I use Nova now and I'm happy. But my phone is Nexus and I don't loose any phone's functionality with Nova, because Nexus phone doesn't have any.
Thanks for answer.
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I use Nova now and I'm happy. But my phone is Nexus and I don't loose any phone's functionality with Nova, because Nexus phone doesn't have any.
Thanks for answer.
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I have a nexus 5 and note 3. Touchwiz is necessary for all major advertised features such as the multiwindow, spen window, ultra power saving mode etc. So yes without touchwiz you are losing a fundamental part of the phone. however, in my instance I run touchwiz and aosp roms on my note 3. I have duplicated many features that is touchwiz based on a stock android rom. It takes multiple apps and doesn't work exactly the same but does overall the same things. With the note 4 there are many more features in the Spen so you will be taking a bigger hit switching from touchwiz to stock android.
Edit: Also, the stock touchwiz camera is lost and A LOT of its features such as 4k video recording. and it seems the quality on the touchwiz cam is better than google or aosp camera. There are some close alternatives for the camera however.
Well... that pretty much answers my question.
Thanks.
Touchwiz for me then.
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You will loose the lag also.
Lose.
Hi,
I used TW for a few days and now switched to Nova.
Really can't find anything that doesn't work compared to TW.
Both sidebars (nav keys and app shortcuts) work, stylus menu works.
Anybody noticed any Note (3 or 4) features that doesn't work with a non stock launcher?
Thanks!!
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I have a nexus 5 and note 3. Touchwiz is necessary for all major advertised features such as the multiwindow, spen window, ultra power saving mode etc. So yes without touchwiz you are losing a fundamental part of the phone. however, in my instance I run touchwiz and aosp roms on my note 3. I have duplicated many features that is touchwiz based on a stock android rom. It takes multiple apps and doesn't work exactly the same but does overall the same things. With the note 4 there are many more features in the Spen so you will be taking a bigger hit switching from touchwiz to stock android.
Edit: Also, the stock touchwiz camera is lost and A LOT of its features such as 4k video recording. and it seems the quality on the touchwiz cam is better than google or aosp camera. There are some close alternatives for the camera however.
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I would have to disagree with almost all that is said here.
Verizon N4 : Thank me if I helped ya
xtrandrix said:
I would have to disagree with almost all that is said here.
Verizon N4 : Thank me if I helped ya
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care to elaborate
The topic is about using a custom launcher on the stock Note 4 ROM.
So all the features you mentioned (mukti window, spen, ultrapower saving etc) works perfectly fine with Nova launcher.
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bat0nas said:
(never used touchwiz before)
Maybe S-Pen menu won't appear?
What about multiple windows on a single screen?
etc.
How deeply touchwiz was integrated in Note 3 case?
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bat0nas said:
The topic is about using a custom launcher on the stock Note 4 ROM.
So all the features you mentioned (mukti window, spen, ultrapower saving etc) works perfectly fine with Nova launcher.
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Gotcha. I misunderstood your first post. When you referred to the "touchwiz ui" and how deeply touchwiz was integrated, I assumed you meant if you were to flash an aosp rom instead of a custom launcher :good:
I am thinking to switch to CM. My main concern is if I will have all of my Note's features working. To be more specific;
-S pen. I mean air command menu, s memo, screen off memo.
-Fingerprint scanner
-Full camera quality
I can't remember any other special Note 4 features. So, will I miss anything if I go CM?
maybe you will get everything but forget about camera... no way to use stock camera on non touchwiz rom... fcking samsung
Edit: the special thing about stock camera is post processing of the picture which CM or any other non-touchwiz ROM don't have..
Does anyone knowa good cm camera for note4??
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Does CM make full use of N4?
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Abso-freaking-lutely NOT.
What functionally do you lose if not running touch wiz?
OR.. is there even any other option at this stage?
no...only TW at the moment!!!
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Most of the sensors.
Drivers are not normally included in CM.
So things like: Stay Awake (Smart Stay) etc will no longer work.
(An example was on the Note series, if you used a CM build, you lost the whole Note/Pen feature)
dave7802 said:
Most of the sensors.
Drivers are not normally included in CM.
So things like: Stay Awake (Smart Stay) etc will no longer work.
(An example was on the Note series, if you used a CM build, you lost the whole Note/Pen feature)
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Indeed, biggest loss are camera drivers. Say goodbye to those nice photos on AOSP, unfortunately
Well, having had a few hours on TouchWiz after avoiding Samsung devices for the past couple years, I must say that 6.0 is pretty polished. Coupled with the debloat rom, I am not missing aosp or cm..
I am however missing one touch cast in quick settings. My only complaint as now...