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[Q] Looking for advice on S4 ROM

Hi all,
I once more turn to XDA gurus for some advice and also questions. Let me start with saying that I have very basic experience with android phones: my main phone is an iPhone but I love to play with Android devices to fill in the iOS blanks. I own a Samsung Infuse (with a custom ROM but very unstable) and briefly had an HTC One but returned it.
Anyway, I bought an AT&T S4; it's unlocked and works great. However I'm in Canada on Rogers and couldn't care less about the bloatware installed on it. Here come the questions:
- Does anyone know of a way to install the stock Rogers ROM on this phone (more like where to get it)?
- Alternately, would you recommend to install another ROM?
Here's the thing: a week after I bought mine, Google announced the Google editions; would have known I would have waited to get that.
- Would it be recommendable to flash the Google ROM on my phone?
- Would there be a way to install some of the Samsung SPKs on such a ROM (I could never seem to do it on my Infuse)?
I know how to flash a ROM, and it's well documented in the Forums. I'm more after opinions; my experience with flashing ROMs on my Infuse has been spotty at best. Seems like no matter what I did, the phone would become unusably unstable after a while. This scares me because it seems like the Infuse is one of the most modded phones out there... The S4 is very impressive and I don't want to hinder it's performance in any way.
If none of this is doable/recommendable, then I might sell this one and pay the extra $100 and get the Google edition.
I appreciate any input!
Thanks

Well, I know it's not polite to bump your own post, but I would really appreciate some feedback.
And actually I'll add a bit more to it: let's say I either try the Google ROM or decide to buy a Google Edition, there are some pretty cool apps included with the Samsung version (such as multi window and air gestures). Is it possible to have those available on the Google Edition/ROM?
Thanks and sorry again for my lack of knowledge in the area...

technosinner said:
Well, I know it's not polite to bump your own post, but I would really appreciate some feedback.
And actually I'll add a bit more to it: let's say I either try the Google ROM or decide to buy a Google Edition, there are some pretty cool apps included with the Samsung version (such as multi window and air gestures). Is it possible to have those available on the Google Edition/ROM?
Thanks and sorry again for my lack of knowledge in the area...
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Consensus with the GE ROMs for the S4 are that they're WAY too stripped down in comparison to other AOSP options (of which GE is NOT, it's actually TW disguised as AOSP). I, personally, would avoid using GE and instead opt for something like AOKP if you want that same feel. I just flashed FoxHound and really like the hybrid aspect of it in the fact that you keep all the gimmicky TW features (the hover and voice stuff as well as multi-window), the menu structures are similar, but it brings all the bonuses that having an AOSP ROM does. There are some extra steps involved which @Axman has taken his time to explain (you have to manually input your APN), but the end result is worth it.
Good luck and read around.
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well spoken my friend. Thanks

Thank you very much for the clarification. I was actually in the process of reading Axman's posts. To be honest I'm totally overwhelmed. I didn't imagine it to be so complicated; I'm really torn between ROM and keeping stock because of the TW cool stuff... I will keep reading around as all good n00b should.
Thanks!

technosinner said:
Thank you very much for the clarification. I was actually in the process of reading Axman's posts. To be honest I'm totally overwhelmed. I didn't imagine it to be so complicated; I'm really torn between ROM and keeping stock because of the TW cool stuff... I will keep reading around as all good n00b should.
Thanks!
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It's much less complicated than it seems, but you do need to follow the steps as outlined or you could end up with anything from a borked flash to a bricked phone depending on what you're trying to do. I recommend playing with a i337m ROM that is TW-based for your first, just to get the hang of things as it'll provide the least steep learning curve. Go for these steps at first:
1. Enable Developer Options (go to Settings/About/tap on build until it says they're enabled)
2. Run one click root/recovery from Adam Outler
3. Transfer and flash ROM of your choice
Just know that people flash for different reasons ranging from wanting less bloat to more battery life to a morbid case of flashaholism (such as myself and @TheAxman). There's nothing saying you have to go balls to the wall here and you may find yourself completely happy with the stock ROM and a better kernel. Just read up and it'll make perfect sense.
Last word of advice: have Odin and the stock ROM on hand so you can flash back to stock if necessary. Some ROMs don't play well when flashed on top of others, even if you do a full wipe.
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I was actually in the exact same situation as you.
However, I decided to flash a TW based ROM to keep all the cool Samsung features.
I'd recommend any of the Stock Based ones here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
Just do your research and look for the features you need.

Thanks a lot guys! I'll be doing some reading but at least I know where to look.
One last thing: I keep seeing this loki thing around. Since I'm on an att version I got that I need it, but what exactly is it and where can I get it? I see a lot of references to it, but I can't seem to find a download link or a tutorial on it...
Thanks again!
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Don' t take the loki thing and run with it..if you are rooted and have recovery installed, flash the rom of choice and use a att kernel that already has been loki'ed.
Simple. That way you will never go wrong.
The Ax says this is my method of choice. Could care less about loki.

I recommend cm10.1 . It is aosp based, tins of features, fast, and just nice to use. I use it on my att sgs4 right now. It is nightly release but it is VERY STABLE. Ge is just tw with an aosp fanboy shirt on .lol.
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Poll upgrading 4.4.2 or sticking with whatcha got

Here is my simple poll... I am not giving reasons to why I am sticking with 4.2.2, as many will argue against my points. This is a poll so if anything it is all about your reason not mine, and how many are going one way or the other.

Upgrading, just so I Could get rid of that ugly green battery icon
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Change is inevitable. .. resistance is futile
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pakure said:
Change is inevitable. .. resistance is futile
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Outside of some small issues with stock firmware, once ironed out, 4.4.2 is more hype than what Google is offering. Change is good, as long as there is a reason to. So far I have no reason to change unless Samsung releases Tizan to the Note 8.0, which will never come.

Already updated using the UK update. Glad to be able to save Google Play All Access music to my SD card now. No down side that I can see.

Polaris Office 5 "usable" (without the long stripe, not root)... not sure if I deleted that app before or installed with 4.4.2 but for taking notes on clasess is a big plus for me. :good:

been using civs rom and kernel and don't feel a real need to update. a new rom won't speed up my ebook reading and comic reading. so it's gotta be preety feature packed for me to update. I haven't even taken 4.4 update on my gn10.1 2013 yet either.
just notice civ updated... so I most likely be upgrading soon, lol.

No good reason to upgrade other than having all 3 notes running KK. Goodness, not a good reason. Frankly, nothing outstanding was gained.
Via my Note 3

BclingergFJ said:
No good reason to upgrade other than having all 3 notes running KK. Goodness, not a good reason. Frankly, nothing outstanding was gained.
Via my Note 3
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Ive found KK on the Note 8 to be smoother and a little snappier

I upgraded and I cant really tell if anythings different
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You can now upgrade without the need for flashing the Kitkat Knox bootloader.
Install a custom Kitkat rom of your choosing and then install this kernel and you will have wifi and all things working + some extra's.
for now only for the 5110

civato said:
You can now upgrade without the need for flashing the Kitkat Knox bootloader.
Install a custom Kitkat rom of your choosing and then install this kernel and you will have wifi and all things working + some extra's.
for now only for the 5110
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I have used your kernel on your 4.2.2 Flexbeam. I had issues with Miracast and Fat32 on SD card. Stock is the only way for me to have my cake and eat it.
There is no real benefit, unless you want a few features that you won't use. A properly setup 4.2.2 will work just as good as 4.4.2 without all the headaches. By the time I will need a feature that I don't have now, I'll be upgrading my hardware. Since my poll has been created, we have a definite split. Yet nobody can give good reasons to upgrade, outside of being newer is better.
Civato, since you are pushing your custom ROM, I have the right to say what I think about it since this is my post. I have tried your ROM before, and found good work with your efforts, but the features you provide are not worth having issues associated with customization of the kernel. If anything nobody not even google can not fix their media subsystem. So, having 4.4.2 for me would be undoing what I have fixed on my device, an I do not care to do anymore troubleshooting as I have done since November with my Note 8.0.

gooberdude said:
I have used your kernel on your 4.2.2 Flexbeam. I had issues with Miracast and Fat32 on SD card. Stock is the only way for me to have my cake and eat it.
There is no real benefit, unless you want a few features that you won't use. A properly setup 4.2.2 will work just as good as 4.4.2 without all the headaches. By the time I will need a feature that I don't have now, I'll be upgrading my hardware. Since my poll has been created, we have a definite split. Yet nobody can give good reasons to upgrade, outside of being newer is better.
Civato, since you are pushing your custom ROM, I have the right to say what I think about it since this is my post. I have tried your ROM before, and found good work with your efforts, but the features you provide are not worth having issues associated with customization of the kernel. If anything nobody not even google can not fix their media subsystem. So, having 4.4.2 for me would be undoing what I have fixed on my device, an I do not care to do anymore troubleshooting as I have done since November with my Note 8.0.
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First things first, some fish slapping???????????????
I think you missed the whole point of my post.
Now as it is my right to answer you in YOUR THREAD. Here it is , THE WHY?
Sir,
I posted this info so any user Not wanting to upgrade to the kitkat bootloader that comes with the Knox counter and not possible to revert back to JellyBean Knox free bootloader, can now install a custom Kitkat rom and kernel and check it out. If they don't like it they can go back to JellyBean stock state with the Knox Free JellyBean bootloader.
clear enough.
Now my turn.
Watch my words, in the end 99% will be on kitkat as more regions are supported. I don't understand people. They b*tch about the late Kitkat update and when it finally arives they b*tch about nothing much has changed in UI.
Now mirrorcast is crap for me as it is samsung closed source. Im not supporting any propitairy thing as Android should be 100% open. If not I should by me a Apple.
your exfat problem? Not having it on kitkat as on kitkat they made it open source. On JellyBean it was also samsung propitairy crap so not ablle to really build it good into the kernel , for some cards then.
I have OTG with ntfs RW support , so easy to read out my big hdd. I have cifs, so easy to connect to the pc and read out a whole hdd of my pc.
I have dongle support what you may not find important but a lot others do.
I have supurb batterlife onthe new kitkat kernel and supurb speed that you will never get on stock kernel.
I can control any setting I want of my kernel.
If all people have the same attitude as you , root, custom roms , kernels, triangle away,..... would not exist. Buy a Apple is my advice to you then.
My 2 kids got both a Ipad mini and for them it is the best. Easy in use and really closed so they can't mess with a thing.
Oh and I'm not pushing my rom, I clearly say "a" custom rom.
Is this even my time worth ?

civato said:
First things first, some fish slapping������������������������������
I think you missed the whole point of my post.
Now as it is my right to answer you in YOUR THREAD. Here it is , THE WHY?
Sir,
I posted this info so any user Not wanting to upgrade to the kitkat bootloader that comes with the Knox counter and not possible to revert back to JellyBean Knox free bootloader, can now install a custom Kitkat rom and kernel and check it out. If they don't like it they can go back to JellyBean stock state with the Knox Free JellyBean bootloader.
clear enough.
Now my turn.
Watch my words, in the end 99% will be on kitkat as more regions are supported. I don't understand people. They b*tch about the late Kitkat update and when it finally arives they b*tch about nothing much has changed in UI.
Now mirrorcast is crap for me as it is samsung closed source. Im not supporting any propitairy thing as Android should be 100% open. If not I should by me a Apple.
your exfat problem? Not having it on kitkat as on kitkat they made it open source. On JellyBean it was also samsung propitairy crap so not ablle to really build it good into the kernel , for some cards then.
I have OTG with ntfs RW support , so easy to read out my big hdd. I have cifs, so easy to connect to the pc and read out a whole hdd of my pc.
I have dongle support what you may not find important but a lot others do.
I have supurb batterlife onthe new kitkat kernel and supurb speed that you will never get on stock kernel.
I can control any setting I want of my kernel.
If all people have the same attitude as you , root, custom roms , kernels, triangle away,..... would not exist. Buy a Apple is my advice to you then.
My 2 kids got both a Ipad mini and for them it is the best. Easy in use and really closed so they can't mess with a thing.
Oh and I'm not pushing my rom, I clearly say "a" custom rom.
Is this even my time worth ?
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I tried to be polite, but you took some of my explanation to using my poll as a solicitation, a bit personal.
I did praise your work and efforts. I am not knocking in any way your ROM, just making a point for those who are tempted to understand there is a price to pay for using a modded ROM. Maybe I am being a bit protective, but about 50% upgrading to KitKat are finding issues they do not want to deal with. About 33% just jump right in without knowing when there is a lot of info available here to read up on.
Sure, I did not read up on your ROM and Kernel, but I was not interested and did not want to point one thing over another.
I admit your ROM adds some speed improvement, added customization and what not. I consider myself a novice in the Android world, and have managed to figure simple tweaks to make my stock ROM perform better than most custom de-bloated ROMs. Yet the pros seem to have to push 4.4.2 every way possible, for whatever reasoning, personal or not.
The Note 8.0 is not a gaming device, yet peeps think benchmarks are more important than usability. I am just calling it as I see it, 4.4.2 tweaked or not, is not much better than 4.2.2 when properly setup.
Not to point my finger to your ROM customizations, but all non-Samsung stock ROMs in general... Miracast, SD card, and S-pen are the big reasons why I chose Samsung, so they also happen to be propitiatory, many don' t see them as an issue, until they need one or the other to work.

gooberdude said:
I tried to be polite, but you took some of my explanation to using my poll as a solicitation, a bit personal.
I did praise your work and efforts. I am not knocking in any way your ROM, just making a point for those who are tempted to understand there is a price to pay for using a modded ROM. Maybe I am being a bit protective, but about 50% upgrading to KitKat are finding issues they do not want to deal with. About 33% just jump right in without knowing when there is a lot of info available here to read up on.
Sure, I did not read up on your ROM and Kernel, but I was not interested and did not want to point one thing over another.
I admit your ROM adds some speed improvement, added customization and what not. I consider myself a novice in the Android world, and have managed to figure simple tweaks to make my stock ROM perform better than most custom de-bloated ROMs. Yet the pros seem to have to push 4.4.2 every way possible, for whatever reasoning, personal or not.
The Note 8.0 is not a gaming device, yet peeps think benchmarks are more important than usability. I am just calling it as I see it, 4.4.2 tweaked or not, is not much better than 4.2.2 when properly setup.
Not to point my finger to your ROM customizations, but all non-Samsung stock ROMs in general... Miracast, SD card, and S-pen are the big reasons why I chose Samsung, so they also happen to be propitiatory, many don' t see them as an issue, until they need one or the other to work.
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I don't want to fuel a debate with this post cause that is not my purpose and is not helpful to anyone. However, just want to say that after reading the last few posts I feel that you are being a bit harsh on civato for posting some useful info. The post specifically states "any kitkat rom" and never mentioned a specific custom rom. This info is obviously aimed to anyone thinking about upgrading which is what this thread is about.
Personally I appreciate any additional info provided, especially from a highly regarded dev/contributor, that could sway my decision either way and/or make things easier. Glad civato took the time to post for the benefit of others. :good:

gooberdude said:
Not to point my finger to your ROM customizations, but all non-Samsung stock ROMs in general... Miracast, SD card, and S-penare the big reasons why I chose Samsung, so they also happen to be propitiatory, many don' t see them as an issue, until they need one or the other to work.
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S-pen = Crap on stock kernel, as it is way off. A pen needs to be 100% accurate and not so and so.
Did you take the time to look at text pen cursor, of by 5mm, that is a lot. and that is rom problem. JellyBean and kitkat
Pointer is 3mm to the left (Kernel problem, JellyBean and kitkat) , again that is a lot for me and people that use the pen for what it is made. Else I would bought me a Tablet without the pen support.
The only thing you post that I can agree with is lossing Miracast if you use a custom kernel. I don't have any SDCard problems.
And yes the pen is why I buy samsung Note devices.
It seems that my info is still not clear,
You can TRY kitkat now without the feared KNOX kitkat bootloader. Revert back to JB without any problems.
Sorry for my to offer this to the users.
I think what you are trying to do is make believe that KitKat is crap, or you are trying to convince yourself.
It is well known that most people are afraid of changes.

Why start this poll if you are happy with what you have and not interested in updating. ...the truth is you want to see what the rest are doing and then be deluded that you are doing the correct thing. ..
There can be different uses for different guys and needs are different. .. so don't compare. .. do a back up of your current set up, try different roms and stuff,.... decide for yourself. ... you can always go back to your backup if you don't like anything you tried, ... but frankly, 4.2.2 was buggy and Google quickly updated it to 4.3 for fixing those bugs
Frankly you cannot sit on the beach and wonder how it is to be at sea.... you have to take a boat and sail the sea to know for yourself...
So unless you try the update, how can you come to a conclusion what's best for you?
Chill out and enjoy your way
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me, i already update my note, and super regret it, now, i have stupid knox, inaccuracy spen, nothing new.. so better wait..

oland681 said:
me, i already update my note, and super regret it, now, i have stupid knox, inaccuracy spen, nothing new.. so better wait..
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Try civs rom. .. it's great and fixes all the issues. ..
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kitkat 4.4.2 on note 8.0 has bugs?
After updating to 4.4.2 my note 8.o is acting strange. Some time my home button isn't working. Some time my capacitive buttons aren't touch activated. (Though interestingly its always working with the included stylus!) When the screen is locked the home button doesnt bring the lock screen back. i.e. it remains black even I press the home button!
Any one facing this problem here after kitkat update?

Why no love for the shield tablet?

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Elaborate? I love mine!

If by love you mean acceptance by the unwashed masses then no.
If by love you mean custom roms up the wazoo then no.
If by love you mean some people here actually caress it to sleep, I'm sure there are some who do.

No roms!!!!! This is a great device, how come???
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Gotta remember the device is only a few months old.
I think a lot of rom developers may have been waiting for Lollipop. We may see an upswing in new roms being released now that the cat is out of the bag.
Whatever happens I hope we can get a rom with working wi-fi and all other functionality, and working Nvidia apps!

Ultimist said:
Gotta remember the device is only a few months old.
I think a lot of rom developers may have been waiting for Lollipop. We may see an upswing in new roms being released now that the cat is out of the bag.
Whatever happens I hope we can get a rom with working wi-fi and all other functionality, and working Nvidia apps!
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We will probably get some aosp goodness pretty soon but I highly doubt we will ever get dabbler and other proprietary Nvidia apps. Those apps are original creations from Nvidia and it wouldn't make much sense for them to release that code for anyone to download and modify. As much as I would like to have those apps on custom roms, it just won't happen.

markymark567 said:
We will probably get some aosp goodness pretty soon but I highly doubt we will ever get dabbler and other proprietary Nvidia apps. Those apps are original creations from Nvidia and it wouldn't make much sense for them to release that code for anyone to download and modify. As much as I would like to have those apps on custom roms, it just won't happen.
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Further on that, a lot of rom makers probably aren't bothering because most people with the Shield want access to the proprietary apps, I would not install a custom rom on this tablet because of GRID and what not.

whoamanwtf said:
Further on that, a lot of rom makers probably aren't bothering because most people with the Shield want access to the proprietary apps, I would not install a custom rom on this tablet because of GRID and what not.
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Yeah I agree this is probably part of it. The few Roms that have come out have tons of people posting asking for Nvidia apps. I could be biased here but generally people didn't seem very interested/great full for the work some developers have done for this tablet. Personally, I don't use dabbler, and I don't use an Nvidia controller I just use a nyko, so I very much appreciate the customs Roms available for the shield. Also I'm pretty sure they got grid working, FYI. The shield tablet simply does not appeal to the crack flashing and hacking consumer base, as such very few developers will purchase the tablet. Really the only thing this tablet has going for it it terms of android development is that it is nearly aosp. If we really want to see some movement we should find a developer who is willing and able and start a donation fund to buy said developer a shield tablet. If we could get a solid build of CM12 I think many other roms could be built from it.

For me its not really a custom ROM that I would prefer was in development, it would be more of a custom kernal, over clock, undervolt, processor profiles, different schedulers, I/O hacks, graphics settings, hotplugs etc Think synapse for shield tablet. But suppose we would probably need kernal source to make a great custom kernal. I do use kernal tweaker. Although, scheduler changes min processor clock doesn't stick (gets over ridden by settings)

Totally agree
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Further on that, a lot of rom makers probably aren't bothering because most people with the Shield want access to the proprietary apps, I would not install a custom rom on this tablet because of GRID and what not.
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I agree with you and previous comments on nvidia original apps and features, seriously no bloatware on this device. I wouldn't want to change rom but would love to customise. I was rooted via towel root but not after the update, I don't have issues with unlocking the bootloader but since I won't be flashing rom's don't see why I should. Plus have not seen a way to completely return to stock if anything happens no warranty. I would love to getting exposed installer up and running and have gravity box working (even though that was for kiktkat). But guess I will have to wait.
To bad it's being parked since I might have to unlock the bootloader if nothing comes up and wipe this bad boy clean.
(don't really know of how to do a back up without custom recovery)

On the Nvidia apps issue, couldn't they be backed up to external SD before installing a custom rom, and then restored afterwards? Don't know enough about how Android works to know if such a thing is possible.
I do use the Shield controller and so I would at least like that to be functional. The only reason I'd want a custom rom is all the additional features, optimizations, and tweaks that come along with a good custom rom.

A pre-rooted stock based ROM with tweaks, perhaps an aroma installer with a menu of choices, also an optimized kernel would be great. This tablet is nearly perfect as it is, but some small fixes would make it really perfect. Sadly, I'm no developer...

Ultimist said:
On the Nvidia apps issue, couldn't they be backed up to external SD before installing a custom rom, and then restored afterwards? Don't know enough about how Android works to know if such a thing is possible.
I do use the Shield controller and so I would at least like that to be functional. The only reason I'd want a custom rom is all the additional features, optimizations, and tweaks that come along with a good custom rom.
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Xposed Installer, you can basically tweak anything if your rooted, gives you all the options in most custom rom's like Liquid Smooth, Mahdi Rom, Viper Rom and way more options than CM11, but you have to download certain types of files so a custom rom would be more efficient and a one stop for everything. But its a great solution to keep all of what nvidia has to offer.
I just want to re-root without unlocking bootloader. Or if there is a way to s-off so I can "Lock" the bootloader and not "relock" then I can take the normal way to root.
And regarding your suggestion I dont think that is possible since they are not apps that you can download all the files if you extract them they wont work. You can try to save them from your nvidia and download to your phone, see if that works. But I dont think it will.

I use xposed on some of my other devices but unfortunately xposed doesn't work with ART so if you upgrade to lollipop you're SOL on those awesome tweaks for the time being.
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That's uncool [emoji33] [emoji17]
But yea guess will have to wait and see what I can do because I really Dont want to change ROM's at the moment, guess I will have to stay stock for a while.

What is the best (latest/ updated) custom rom for note 3 SM-N9005?

I just rooted my phone and installed cwm recovery, now I want to flash custom rom, I also want to keep the S Note, Action Memo app. Any suggestions? Sorry I am new to all of these. Thank you in advance for your help.
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As per some rule you can't ask for best ROM/ Kernel suggestion, but I like stock based ROMs, so I use the Deodex version of OF3 ROM, Deodex because I need Xposed. If you don't need that you can use Odex version.
This is the one I use, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-qs-n9005-lp-t3037655
OF3 however is not latest, OGX (X=something) is, but I don't care really. The above ROM doesn't come with a lot of options, just very few features added, but that's what I like, as close as possible to stock ROM. If you don't need Xposed and need a ROM with lots of features then look for AryaMod.

devilsdouble said:
As per some rule you can't ask for best ROM/ Kernel suggestion.
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Not true anymore, mods changed it
They even made a front page discussion about people favourite

To advise someone what is the best, Is based on there own experience and opinion.
My own experience may be mainly gaming.....
Or it may be with Business models, Each depends on the type of feedback, result in complete different ROMS....
Can you see where am going with this?
I can answer you question, but only Vague:
S note and Action Memo - Why????
The reason i ask, if you want to keep them, Then you can only go with a TW based ROM. This is the TouchWiz (Samsung ROM)
If you dnot have a valid reason, other than you use them.
The a CM or any AOSP Based ROM, Does not have ANY TouchWiz Feature, For example, the Spen, The Menu, The functions.
But there are additional Apps that are matched in results or in some cases better (As they have been developed on the feedback of the note users)
S-Pen command is an example.
Then you can get addition application like: Fiinote that are just as good as Action Memo, Or EverNote or OneNote.
The LIST Goes one.
My one advise to you, Is to enjoy flashing and try them all, See what grabs your attention, Every person on XDA is different, and this is possibly why one of the rules come in about BEST ROMS.
Its too much optionion based, and everyone has there own option.
I hope this is not a complete pointless post, and helps a little.
But there is no harm in trying, and you will have alot of Fun seeing each developers take on it

Thank you so much @dave7802 for your help. I really appreciate it and it all makes sense. Everybody has own different preference. That is what I am going to do, I will try different roms and see where to stick. Glad I have this XDA app on my phone and receiving info and answers from you guys. Thanks again sir. Cheers!
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Hi,
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DSA said:
Not true anymore, mods changed it
They even made a front page discussion about people favourite
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Okay, that's excellent! I never did like that decision anyway. Thanks for informing mate.

My advice is Audax L. Stock based, reliable, always up the date, all mods which are neccessary and useful, easy flashable with aroma installer and has own costum kernel which is always up the date and really good for performance and battery consuming. Just try it.

Alliance...

Morningstar said:
Alliance...
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+1 (not biased at all)

Do the non-tw Roms support pressure sensitivity through ie; sketchbook? It's been a long time since an official lollipop update. .

I'm usin' the DarkLord s6 port V2.0 from several weeks as daily driver, it's good and reliable, no problems exept a minor bug with fast notes.
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How do you guys stay on TW?
I love it, the features dont get me wrong, Some of them are very nice.
But the speed is notability different coming from using CM for more than 12 months.
Small things like, Notification Status Pull Down, the delay from swiping down, to it appearing is noticeable slow.
App Drawer, open close applications, Accessing menus, All have a delayed response. Multi Tasking loading.
I have tried the following ROMs,
Dark Lord S6 and Note variants.
AryaMod V7.2
Norma Rom
Alliance
The BEST in regards to speed, But still noticeable is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-qs-n9005-lp-t3037655
As another user advised (Thanks)
This is no slander, As i do enjoy touchwiz, But i will admit, i am a speed freak, When i want someone i want it yesterday.

dave7802 said:
How do you guys stay on TW?
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To me CM/AOSP has too many missing UI/UX features, requiring more swipes and clicks for activities I perform. Also, once one has actually grown accustomed to TW, it requires time to learn. If you're busy in your life, you don't want to be non-performing and slow for 2 weeks when learning the ins-and-outs of a new ROM/UI/UX variant.
That's why I have not switched.
I accept the slowness of TW, but it's not too slow for me (and I multi-task a lot).
I'd be willing to try out CM builds, but it seems impossible to find realisting non-fanboy reviews of CM builds on Note3, that detail:
- what real bugs there are (sometimes the small annoying bits in Wifi/BT/sleep/battery can drive one inside, even if 90% of casual users don't notice them)
- what Pen/TW/camera module features does one has to give up when switching to non-Samsung ROM? CM/AOSP ROMs will always be missing Samsung libs, apps and as such many hardware supported features due to their generic nature. I have not seen an honest list that just lists all the missing features from Note3 CM/AOSP roms, without resorting to "nobody uses that feature anyway, so I didn't list it" type of comments.
Just backing up, cleaning up, flashing, re-installing, re-merging apps and data is so much work (full work day for me) that I just don't have time for that, unless I know what kind of deep doo-doo I'm going to end up with.
This, imho, is one of the reasons preventing some users from switching over, but yes, Samsung's "we are too lazy to update Note 3" policy is really pushing me towards CM builds
BTW, to not be totally off-topic I'm using DarkLord 5.0.2 build and it is so-so. Sometimes it lags badly. Sometimes it closes background apps by itself (way too fast, even with no huge multitasking). I'd like to get it patched and update to 5.1.1. but until Samsung releases the 5.1.1 ROM for Note 3, no such luck.

How do I stay on TW?
The simple answer is, I bought a Note 3, there are quite a lot of micro/ small things which make it a Note, and as long as I want to use a Note phone like a Note phone, I would use TouchWiz, end of story.
I am a professional. I need quite a lot of things. If I were a kid with no life other than to show off to friends hey look I have the latest version of Android, do you have it?, and take pride in that, probably I would go the AOSP route. Thank me that I can't be one of those low IQ people! :laugh: If you don't have the brain to process what's good/ complete and what's pathetic/ half baked nonsense, then anything which comes with a decent enough packing will look good to you.

devilsdouble said:
How do I stay on TW?
I am a professional. I need quite a lot of things. If I were a kid with no life other than to show off to friends hey look I have the latest version of Android, do you have it?, and take pride in that, probably I would go the AOSP route. Thank me that I can't be one of those low IQ people! :laugh: If you don't have the brain to process what's good/ complete and what's pathetic/ half baked nonsense, then anything which comes with a decent enough packing will look good to you.
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I've never seen someone start a sentence saying "I'm a professional" and then write such a stupid post.

smeddy said:
I've never seen someone start a sentence saying "I'm a professional" and then write such a stupid post.
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Yeah, like I give a lot of damn.

devilsdouble said:
Yeah, like I give a lot of damn.
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I know you dont. Thankyou for being part of this community.

I have tried 90% of the note 3 rom on XDA, here's my result:
Best Rom
TW ROM: Audax
AOSP/CM: Temasak

devilsdouble said:
How do I stay on TW?
The simple answer is, I bought a Note 3, there are quite a lot of micro/ small things which make it a Note, and as long as I want to use a Note phone like a Note phone, I would use TouchWiz, end of story.
I am a professional. I need quite a lot of things. If I were a kid with no life other than to show off to friends hey look I have the latest version of Android, do you have it?, and take pride in that, probably I would go the AOSP route. Thank me that I can't be one of those low IQ people! :laugh: If you don't have the brain to process what's good/ complete and what's pathetic/ half baked nonsense, then anything which comes with a decent enough packing will look good to you.
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Spot on couldn't agree more, with all points.

Verizon Note 7 Port ROM - Project turned over to the community!

I'm back on Verizon after switching to Sprint back in 2008. So I recently picked up a mint condition Verizon Note 4 so I could have a little fun building a new Note 7 port ROM. Many of you may know me as the creator of the Ultimate Note 7 ROM for the Sprint Note 4. I'm here to tell all of you that I've been working on a new Ultimate Note 7 ROM for the Verizon Note 4. It is nearly ready for public beta release! With the experience I have porting Samsung Touchwiz ROM's. I figured it is long overdue for the Verizon Note 4 users. My port ROM has official and original Verizon Note 7 framework, apps, etc. So instead of trying to make international port ROM's work, which is no simple task unless you know what you're doing, get ready for a true Verizon compatible Note 7 ROM. Those of you who still have your Verizon Note 4 and want to get more life and use from it with a fresh look and feel, look for a new ROM thread soon.
I need a few reliable and knowledgeable testers. If you can help troubleshoot and test the rom, please install Telegram app on your PC and your phone and join my Hybrid Port ROM's group so you can have access to the the test ROM and join the rest of us who are ready to get this thing going. See you there!

Why not a Note 8 ROM or Oreo ROM? Just curious. Forgive me, I wouldn't know of any technical constraints.

i cant wait thanks man

JOSHSKORN said:
Why not a Note 8 ROM or Oreo ROM? Just curious. Forgive me, I wouldn't know of any technical constraints.
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The S8 and N8 ROM's are Nougat 7.0. The N4 has been cut off at Android 6.0 and doesn't have official Samsung Nougat 7.0 kernel source, therefore the Snapdragon N4 can't run Android 7.0. ROM's. If this was possible we would have a lot of excited dev's continuing to build 7.0 TouchWiz ROM's for the N4. Unfortunately Marshmallow 6.0 is all we have for the N4 so the N7 Marshmallow software and perhaps some ported S8/N8 apps is as good as it gets for the N4. What i'm doing is building a solid N7 base ROM for the Verizon N4. Once it's ready I will upload it as a stock base rom. Other dev's can use my base to build out custom ROM's with mods, ROM control, Xposed, etc, etc. This will eliminate the need to fix any network related features. It will all work as it should. International N7 port ROM's are not compatible with the U.S. CDMA carrier's features. This is why we need a true Verizon N7 base rom. I know it's a little late and many people have upgraded to newer phones but if there's still users here wanting to run a proper Verizon N7 ROM, this will be it.
With this said, I welcome any and all testers and dev's to pitch in and help test and troubleshoot minor bugs. PM me if you're interested in helping with this. The ROM is 100% complete and operational but I'm working on minor bugs with a few system apps.

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The S8 and N8 ROM's are Nougat 7.0. The N4 has been cut off at Android 6.0 and doesn't have official Samsung Nougat 7.0 kernel source, therefore the Snapdragon N4 can't run Android 7.0. ROM's. If this was possible we would have a lot of excited dev's continuing to build 7.0 TouchWiz ROM's for the N4. Unfortunately Marshmallow 6.0 is all we have for the N4 so the N7 Marshmallow software and perhaps some ported S8/N8 apps is as good as it gets for the N4. What i'm doing is building a solid N7 base ROM for the Verizon N4. Once it's ready I will upload it as a stock base rom. Other dev's can use my base to build out custom ROM's with mods, ROM control, Xposed, etc, etc. This will eliminate the need to fix any network related features. It will all work as it should. International N7 port ROM's are not compatible with the U.S. CDMA carrier's features. This is why we need a true Verizon N7 base rom. I know it's a little late and many people have upgraded to newer phones but if there's still users here wanting to run a proper Verizon N7 ROM, this will be it.
With this said, I welcome any and all testers and dev's to pitch in and help test and troubleshoot minor bugs. PM me if you're interested in helping with this. The ROM is 100% complete and operational but I'm working on minor bugs with a few system apps.
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I realize the Note 4 has been cut off at Android 6.0, but how are devs able to come up with a 7.1.2 ROM for it? User hsbadr has three: LineageOS, ResurrectionRemix. and EmotionOS (this one seems to be discontinued). I haven't used any of his ROMs for quite some time, because they seem a bit buggy, to me, but that's beside the point I'm getting at. How is he able to make a 7.0 ROM and others can't seem to? That said, why wouldn't an 8.0 ROM be possible?

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I realize the Note 4 has been cut off at Android 6.0, but how are devs able to come up with a 7.1.2 ROM for it? User hsbadr has three: LineageOS, ResurrectionRemix. and EmotionOS (this one seems to be discontinued). I haven't used any of his ROMs for quite some time, because they seem a bit buggy, to me, but that's beside the point I'm getting at. How is he able to make a 7.0 ROM and others can't seem to? That said, why wouldn't an 8.0 ROM be possible?
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You're talking about AOSP ROM's. Those ROM's are open source from Google, not Samsung Touchwiz ROM's. Big difference. The kernels they build are not compatible with Samsung Touchwiz ROM's

bmhbmh715 said:
i cant wait thanks man
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+1

Thanks for this!

Would there be anyway you could make it to use normal bootanimation.zip?

tx_dbs_tx said:
Those of you who still have your Verizon Note 4 and want to get more life and use from it with a fresh look and feel, look for a new ROM thread soon.
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Hello, I am still rocking the note 4 Verizon. And I will be keeping it as long as devoted members such as yourself put out great roms! That being said I would like to be a beta tester if you so need one. I have a little knowledge in troubleshooting and the like, mostly my expertise is in repairing and building phones. I have a whole closet that's devoted to phone parts repair, and computer systems repair. My last few phones I have held on to until the dev section went quiet, note 2, Moto atrix, moto bionic... they were awesome with deodexed/rooted roms... I am addicted to flashing new roms to find the right balance between performance and battery...
By the way, one slight request, when all said and done fixing most of the bugs, don't forget to make sure the rom has a kernel that is compatible with extended batterys. Most of us holding out with our outdated note 4, usually have those huge batteries hanging off the back...lol

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By the way, one slight request, when all said and done fixing most of the bugs, don't forget to make sure the rom has a kernel that is compatible with extended batterys. Most of us holding out with our outdated note 4, usually have those huge batteries hanging off the back...lol
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No worries. I'm using the Flashpoint kernel and there's also an extended battery version. It's based on Verizon N4 QI2 so it's good to go.

OH MY GLOB!
I still have my Verizon Note 4, can't wait for this rom ???

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No worries. I'm using the Flashpoint kernel and there's also an extended battery version. It's based on Verizon N4 QI2 so it's good to go.
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I just figured you would build your own kernel. Yes, flashpoint is the best in my opinion, as of right now.

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I just figured you would build your own kernel. Yes, flashpoint is the best in my opinion, as of right now.
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I really don't mess with kernels. That's not really my forte. If needed, I would just ask someone to build one. But since there's already one available and it happens to be from Verizon source I will use it and give credit. But I may request a new kernel from the latest source once I get the rom ready.

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I really don't mess with kernels. That's not really my forte. If needed, I would just ask someone to build one. But since there's already one available and it happens to be from Verizon source I will use it and give credit. But I may request a new kernel from the latest source once I get the rom ready.
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I think I may have the CQL1 source kernel ready. I've been running it since Tues and was thinking of posting it soon. If you, or anyone else, wants to try it out you can download it here.
The source code is here for those interested.
The changes are the same as the ones for the 910F beta kernel that was posted the other day.
Change Log:
Backported the 3.18 Linux version of Interactive Governor
Add patch for USB fast charge
Add Sound Controls- so far this hasn't negatively impacted anything but it's definitely the change I'm most concerned about and will probably make a separate version without this in the future. Be careful with this. Had my earbuds in and it gets very loud.
LED fade control
Completely reworked the thermal temperature control. So far the temperature has been throttling down pretty good when it goes above the set temp. I've been setting mine on the lowest setting.
Added zswap control
Extended Battery patch is included
On a personal note, I'm very excited to see a port rom that's not built with an international firmware. If there's anything I can help with let me know. My skills are somewhat limited but every now and again I can get lucky.

Thanks Kevin. What I want to do is get the stockish base N7 ROM done then see if there's somebody who wants to take it to the next level and add mods, rom control etc, etc. I know a lot of people like the custom mods, xposed, etc but these days I really don't care for that stuff as long as everything works as it should i'm happy. So if you know of someone who could take on that task once I get the base ROM finished, then that would be great for everyone who wants the custom stuff. And I can take a break. I'll pm some of you once the test build is ready. We'll need to test the basic functions like bluetooth NFC, wifi, etc. It should all work because i've ported these roms before so I know what all i have to do. I'll get the test rom ready as soon as i can as time permits. I'm going over framework getting it debugged and making sure it's a smooth and zippy as i can make it.

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Thanks Kevin. What I want to do is get the stockish base N7 ROM done then see if there's somebody who wants to take it to the next level and add mods, rom control etc, etc. I know a lot of people like the custom mods, xposed, etc but these days I really don't care for that stuff as long as everything works as it should i'm happy. So if you know of someone who could take on that task once I get the base ROM finished, then that would be great for everyone who wants the custom stuff. And I can take a break. I'll pm some of you once the test build is ready. We'll need to test the basic functions like bluetooth NFC, wifi, etc. It should all work because i've ported these roms before so I know what all i have to do. I'll get the test rom ready as soon as i can as time permits. I'm going over framework getting it debugged and making sure it's a smooth and zippy as i can make it.
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I don't use xposed anymore... too much of a hassle to get through some apps that look for it and are diabled from xposed...
Couple brainstorming requests, or something... lol
the people Edge should work properly... I've had so many TW roms that are half done and people Edge is boinked..
Something with note 7 roms and task manager is buggy on note 4...
There is a fingerprint work around for ported roms, if we could get a good, understandable write up to make that work, that would be appreciated.
TW launcher should be themeable... some ports I've tried have that boinked as well.
The brightness on some ports has an issue with not dimming, or high brightness when in sunlight and darkness...
Mostly stock feel and look is quite nice though.

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I don't use xposed anymore... too much of a hassle to get through some apps that look for it and are diabled from xposed...
Couple brainstorming requests, or something... lol
the people Edge should work properly... I've had so many TW roms that are half done and people Edge is boinked..
Something with note 7 roms and task manager is buggy on note 4...
There is a fingerprint work around for ported roms, if we could get a good, understandable write up to make that work, that would be appreciated.
TW launcher should be themeable... some ports I've tried have that boinked as well.
The brightness on some ports has an issue with not dimming, or high brightness when in sunlight and darkness...
Mostly stock feel and look is quite nice though.
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All of the things you mentioned will be working, except fingerprint scanner. That is a lot harder to pull off and will be the very last thing on the to-do list. If it could be made to work other dev's would have figured it out by now without the N4 settings apk swap trick. But i will definitely try my best to get the fingerprint scanner working with my verizon N7 ROM. With Kevin's custom kernel this will be an amazing ROM for the Verizon N4! It's coming along great. It's raining all day today so i'm inside hammering away on the ROM.

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All of the things you mentioned will be working, except fingerprint scanner. That is a lot harder to pull off and will be the very last thing on the to-do list. If it could be made to work other dev's would have figured it out by now without the N4 settings apk swap trick. But i will definitely try my best to get the fingerprint scanner working with my verizon N7 ROM. With Kevin's custom kernel this will be an amazing ROM for the Verizon N4! It's coming along great. It's raining all day today so i'm inside hammering away on the ROM.
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I kniw it's tricky with the fingerprint, I was just suggesting an easy unified post of HOW to do it on this new rom you're making

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I kniw it's tricky with the fingerprint, I was just suggesting an easy unified post of HOW to do it on this new rom you're making
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Well it's never been accomplished by anyone as far as I know. I started working on the fingerprint scanner fix for my sprint UN7 ROM but I abandoned it due to the complexity and the time it takes to do it. It wasn't worth the amount of time and work. This is why it hasn't already been done. We'll see how it goes but I seriously doubt fingerprint scanner will be working on initial release. it's probably my biggest negative on running the N7 port ROM. I use fingerprint lockscreen even though it's the swipe method.