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[Q] Not Booting Into Philz Recov

As the title says, I am currently unable to boot into Philz recovery. I bricked somehow trying to flash sacs 4.3 by stupidly restoring the wrong part of my nandroid backup. Flashed the stock OEM 4.3 MJA and did a factory reset right after. Anyway, when I try to boot into recovery it says "Recovery not seandroid enforcing" and "see warranty bit : recovery" then just reboots into the rom. Can anybody help me out?

Once you flashed stock MJA, you have to re flash Philz and reroot.
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frostedunit said:
Once you flashed stock MJA, you have to re flash Philz and reroot.
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I did both of those. I currently have root access and flashed the recovery twice to make sure I didn't do it wrong the first time. I am beginning to wonder if the bootloader changed from MF9 to MJA when I flashed the OEM, which won't allow Philz to boot properly.

Bump.
Still stuck without a working recovery...

l0udude said:
Bump.
Still stuck without a working recovery...
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Odin the tar of philz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201860
Grab the tar and odin
Confused on how you flashed philz 2 times without a working recovery?

ParkerParker said:
Odin the tar of philz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201860
Grab the tar and odin
Confused on how you flashed philz 2 times without a working recovery?
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I did use Odin... that's what I meant. I did get it to boot once after disabling the Knox bootloader with SuperSU and installing the binaries for CWM but when I tried to reboot back into recovery it starts booting then reboots normally again. I think I'm just going to have to wait for a MJA compatible custom recovery. Gonna stock it out for now.

l0udude said:
I did use Odin... that's what I meant. I did get it to boot once after disabling the Knox bootloader with SuperSU and installing the binaries for CWM but when I tried to reboot back into recovery it starts booting then reboots normally again. I think I'm just going to have to wait for a MJA compatible custom recovery. Gonna stock it out for now.
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Im on MJA and using the latest philz with zero problems, also people are having success using twrp 6301, although I would use caution as its not 100% yet, what rom are you on? You can remove Knox with titanium backup, either way philz is rock solid on 4.3, also if making backups on 4.3 you need to go to Nandroid settings and check the selinux 4.3 box before making a backup in order to restore a 4.3 Rom. Also not sure why you are having to install binaries for cwm? Since you are staying stock cool but if you used cf auto root, which you stated you are rooted, you should be able to Odin philz, did you ota? Flash the modem from Unknownforce? @leaderbuilder you have any input man?
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ParkerParker said:
Im on MJA and using the latest philz with zero problems, also people are having success using twrp 6301, although I would use caution as its not 100% yet, what rom are you on? You can remove Knox with titanium backup, either way philz is rock solid on 4.3, also if making backups on 4.3 you need to go to Nandroid settings and check the selinux 4.3 box before making a backup in order to restore a 4.3 Rom. Also not sure why you are having to install binaries for cwm? Since you are staying stock cool but if you used cf auto root, which you stated you are rooted, you should be able to Odin philz, did you ota? Flash the modem from Unknownforce?
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On the oem 4.3 rom still because I can't flash. Can't flash because custom recovery won't boot. I think it's because of knox. Where do I go in titanium backup to disable knox? Because I can't get supersu to do it again.

l0udude said:
On the oem 4.3 rom still because I can't flash. Can't flash because custom recovery won't boot. I think it's because of knox. Where do I go in titanium backup to disable knox? Because I can't get supersu to do it again.
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I think you are possibly a little over your head. You must take some time and read through the Stickies, Howtos and original posts. Please.
You can easily root (using cf-autoroot - may have to install Superuser from playstore afterwards) and then put a custom recovery (also easily done by installing GooManager and then selecting install custom recovery CWM or TWRP etc) on stock 4.3 that has knox.
From there you can then change/install whatever recovery you want and whatever 4.3 ROM you choose.
BUT I'd highly suggest you take some time, slow down and read, read a little more then after that read some more before you turn your new phone into a shiny paper weight.

leaderbuilder said:
I think you are possibly a little over your head. You must take some time and read through the Stickies, Howtos and original posts. Please.
You can easily root (using cf-autoroot - may have to install Superuser from playstore afterwards) and then put a custom recovery (also easily done by installing GooManager and then selecting install custom recovery CWM or TWRP etc) on stock 4.3 that has knox.
From there you can then change/install whatever recovery you want and whatever 4.3 ROM you choose.
BUT I'd highly suggest you take some time, slow down and read, read a little more then after that read some more before you turn your new phone into a shiny paper weight.
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Yeah I'll check around and see if I come up with anything. I'm not particularly new to this if you can't tell. I've rooted and customized 2 different phones, as well as jailbroke, themed, and flashed stuff to my ps3 back when it was possible. I rooted and flashed sacs v4 rom and ktoonsez kernel easily almost immediately after getting the phone a few months ago. I'm currently running a rooted, stable, stock 4.3 MJA everything so I guess I'm gonna wait and see if anything new surfaces. I have a suspicion that something is writing over CWM with the stock recovery when I boot into the rom but I don't know what to do about it. GooManager won't install openrecovery for some reason either, I already tried that. Just stalls at the download page. Thanks for the help anyway guys.

If you can get into download mode there is no reason that a custom recovery shouldn't install via PC Odin.
You can try this.
Grab the recovery .tar Launch Odin (make sure to 'Run As Administrator') place the .tar in the PDA slot and make sure you un-check "Auto Reboot".
Once it installs (Pass) take phone off PC, remove battery.
Put battery back in and then boot straight to recovery - Home button, Volume Up and Power button till you see the very little blue 'entering recovery' at the top left. If you get into recovery just choose the 'restart phone option. Or you might want to step through the Philz menus then back out to the Power Options then Reboot system and then 'fix root' and let it reboot.

Oh god, help.

Someone, for the love of god, help me.
I rooted my gs4 on att (i337) (Ucuamf3) using the sd card/terminal emulator exploit. It worked just fine, and have full root access. I then proceeded to install safestrap to get some custom roms going. Safestrap installed and I booted to recovery just fine. Then I flashed a few safestrap-compatible roms, none of which worked. they all booted to a consistent black screen. Thrn, I looked for a more up-to-date safestrap version, which I did. So I installed it, and now I cant boot into safestrap at all. Like literally, it just skips over it. And it says its installed...please, please help.

The newer ss is for mk2 firmware. You need to flash the mf3 tar files in odin and start over

Could you post a download link and a tut for flashing via odin? Im relatively new to this

And couldnt I just flash the custom through odin? Or does that not work with this firmware version (or whatever)

shiner9er said:
And couldnt I just flash the custom through odin? Or does that not work with this firmware version (or whatever)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46888516

jd1639 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46888516
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So just flash that via odin?

shiner9er said:
So just flash that via odin?
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Read the thread.

[Q] Running 4.3 ROMs with Safestrap 3.72?

Hi all,
I just bought a new i337 and it came with the NB1 bootloader, NB1 stock, and I followed all the steps to downgrade, etc and have SafeStrap 4.72 running it with a rooted NB1 stock firmware. However, there are some things I like about 4.3, and I would like to run SHOSTOCK (JellyBean version), but I know that I flashed a NB1 Kernel through ODIN as part of running the rooted NB1 stock. Do I have to start over and downgrade it back to MK2? Or is it as simple as just installing the SHOSTOCK for Safestrap in SafeStrap 4.72 even though in the SHOSTOCK thread they don't mention anything about 4.72, just 4.71. I guess I'm just concerned about the kernels not matching with the locked bootloader and all.
Thanks in advance for any help!

zebra72 said:
Hi all,
I just bought a new i337 and it came with the NB1 bootloader, NB1 stock, and I followed all the steps to downgrade, etc and have SafeStrap 4.72 running it with a rooted NB1 stock firmware. However, there are some things I like about 4.3, and I would like to run SHOSTOCK (JellyBean version), but I know that I flashed a NB1 Kernel through ODIN as part of running the rooted NB1 stock. Do I have to start over and downgrade it back to MK2? Or is it as simple as just installing the SHOSTOCK for Safestrap in SafeStrap 4.72 even though in the SHOSTOCK thread they don't mention anything about 4.72, just 4.71. I guess I'm just concerned about the kernels not matching with the locked bootloader and all.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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Safestrap v3.72 will mount on both 4.4 and 4.3 kernels. No need to switch back to v3.71.

muniz_ri said:
Safestrap v3.72 will mount on both 4.4 and 4.3 kernels. No need to switch back to v3.71.
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Thanks for the quick response and answer.
Just a quick clarification, I cannot use Safestrap 3.71 anyway due to my phone having the NB1 bootloader, right? I thought v 3.71 was only for those on MK2 or below.
Thanks again for all your awesome work on finding workarounds for rooting NB1 phones and above!

zebra72 said:
Thanks for the quick response and answer.
Just a quick clarification, I cannot use Safestrap 3.71 anyway due to my phone having the NB1 bootloader, right? I thought v 3.71 was only for those on MK2 or below.
Thanks again for all your awesome work on finding workarounds for rooting NB1 phones and above!
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No the SS version has more to do with your kernel not the BL. You can theoretically flash a 4.3 ROM using SS 3.71 on your 4.4 BL. There are additional requirements like modules, etc that I won't get into.

Well, I was trying to installing SHOStock 3.0- safestrap version today, and I kept getting the "cannot mount /system" in SafeStrap while installing. After rebooting a couple of times, I think I stupidly decided to do an advanced wipe of /system (among others). Do I have to go all the way back to stock NB1 (Original NB1), and then start the whole process to MK2->Root -> Safestrap all over again?
Thanks for any help!

zebra72 said:
Well, I was trying to installing SHOStock 3.0- safestrap version today, and I kept getting the "cannot mount /system" in SafeStrap while installing. After rebooting a couple of times, I think I stupidly decided to do an advanced wipe of /system (among others). Do I have to go all the way back to stock NB1 (Original NB1), and then start the whole process to MK2->Root -> Safestrap all over again?
Thanks for any help!
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Yup. Boot into download mode and start all over.

zebra72 said:
Well, I was trying to installing SHOStock 3.0- safestrap version today, and I kept getting the "cannot mount /system" in SafeStrap while installing. After rebooting a couple of times, I think I stupidly decided to do an advanced wipe of /system (among others). Do I have to go all the way back to stock NB1 (Original NB1), and then start the whole process to MK2->Root -> Safestrap all over again?
Thanks for any help!
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Use the downgrade to MK2 file from this thread then root and install safestrap: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2692825

muniz_ri said:
Use the downgrade to MK2 file from this thread then root and install safestrap: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2692825
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Thanks for all the quick replies. Just to recap, ODIN back to Stock NB1 (no need to uninstall the remnants of SafeStrap I have now?), Downgrade to MK2, Root, Safestrap.
Also, I'm not sure what I did wrong when I went from rooted Stock NB1 to try to flash SHOStock 3.0 (which was 4.3). I honestly wasn't paying attention to the messages, so maybe I had a unable to mount /system error then, but then I went to reboot it, just was blank. That's when I decided to be stupid and go to recovery to advanced wipe including /system. I guess now if I want to run SHOStock 3.0, or whatever ROM, I can just install it once I have Safestrap rather than installing the Rooted ROM and kernel, right?
Thanks again!

zebra72 said:
Thanks for all the quick replies. Just to recap, ODIN back to Stock NB1 (no need to uninstall the remnants of SafeStrap I have now?), Downgrade to MK2, Root, Safestrap.
Also, I'm not sure what I did wrong when I went from rooted Stock NB1 to try to flash SHOStock 3.0 (which was 4.3). I honestly wasn't paying attention to the messages, so maybe I had a unable to mount /system error then, but then I went to reboot it, just was blank. That's when I decided to be stupid and go to recovery to advanced wipe including /system. I guess now if I want to run SHOStock 3.0, or whatever ROM, I can just install it once I have Safestrap rather than installing the Rooted ROM and kernel, right?
Thanks again!
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No need to odin back to stock NB1, the downgrade file will get you back to a semi-functioning(no-wifi) MK2 at which point you can root and install safestrap. From there go to the SHoStock thread for instructions on how to properly install that particular ROM.

muniz_ri said:
No need to odin back to stock NB1, the downgrade file will get you back to a semi-functioning(no-wifi) MK2 at which point you can root and install safestrap. From there go to the SHoStock thread for instructions on how to properly install that particular ROM.
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Thanks again for the quick reply.
Just to clarify, I guess I'm really confused about what kernel I would have if I flash the downgrade file? Would it overwrite the NB1 kernel I flashed after I flashed the rooted stock NB1 in Safestrap? I noticed that in going to rooted stock NB1 (or NC1), you have to ODIN flash the kernel.
Thanks again.

zebra72 said:
Thanks again for the quick reply.
Just to clarify, I guess I'm really confused about what kernel I would have if I flash the downgrade file? Would it overwrite the NB1 kernel I flashed after I flashed the rooted stock NB1 in Safestrap? I noticed that in going to rooted stock NB1 (or NC1), you have to ODIN flash the kernel.
Thanks again.
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Yes the downgrade will revert you back to mk2 kernel in order for you to be able to root.

I need help with installing the Alliance ROM PLEASE.

EDIT: I have successfully installed the Alliance ROM. Here's how i did it.
Prerequisites:
Your phone at at least 50% battery
A charge cable
MicroSD card that you can plug into your computer
Odin 3.09
SafeStrap, version 3.75 APK on your MicroSD card
Alliance ROM on your MicroSD card
NCG tar.md5 (the big file, not the kernel)
I started off on a rooted 5.0 VZW Galaxy S5. After some confusion, I downgraded to NCG (4.4.2) using Odin. After doing that, I went to Towelroot, got the APK, rooted, downloaded SuperSU from the play store (I had to sign into google at this point), installed it's binaries (NORMALLY! Don't choose the TWRP method), rebooted when it asked me to. From there, I installed BusyBox from the play store and installed it within the app. Then I installed Safestrap (version 3.75), which I had on my MicroSD card. I used the app My Files to navigate to my MicroSD and installed the APK. Then I installed it within the app, and when the "reboot to recovery" button worked, I rebooted into SafeStrap recovery mode. At this point, the Alliance ROM zip file should ALREADY BE ON YOUR MICROSD CARD, WHICH SHOULD BE IN YOUR PHONE. Now, you're going to press the INSTALL button to the top right in Safestrap recovery, and you're going to navigate to your MicroSD card. It might be already opened to that. Then you're gonna select the Alliance ROM and flash it. After it successfully flashes, reboot into download mode (if for some reason you aren't able to do it immediately, you get into download mode by holding volume down, home button, and power button at the same time). Now, using Odin, you're gonna flash the firmware that the instructions in the Alliance thread tells you to (here's the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver.../rom-alliancerom-build-3-rom-control-t2818632). If everything works, it's gonna take a couple of minutes, optimize apps, and boot.
Huge thanks to Beans and his team for creating the Alliance mod, and huge thanks to Tulsadiver for helping me get through the process during my confusion.
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Hi. I'll cut to the chase. I was an idiot and thought I could just flash the Alliance ROM from my SD card, but my phone is currently a factory restored 5.0. So, after unsuccessfully flashing Alliance ROM, I thought, well, I probably need to be on 4.4.2 to do this. So, what I'm wondering is, do I need to go back down to 4.4.2 to install Alliance ROM? And do I need Safestrap recovery to do it, or can I do it from stock recovery (home button+volUp+Power)? I did a lot of digging in the Alliance ROM post and there were no posts regarding my problem/question, probably because they're all experienced and I'm not (this is my first time trying to flash a custom ROM).
It SOUNDS like I need to flash a full stock tar using Odin, is that correct? Once I do that, I would be on stock wiped 4.4.2, I assume. From there, could I flash the Alliance ROM and continue with the instructions? Or do I need to root first and get safestrap and all that crap? I feel like Beans was really vague with his instructions on installing ROMs, but whatever. Please help though, I'm kind of stuck in the middle of this with a softbricked phone.
Thank you so much in advance, I appreciate it.
~isra
EDIT: Also, I was on ROOTED 5.0 Lollipop just before this. I just got so sick of lollipop, I was ready for something different. So here we are. To confirm, my phone is the standard retail SM-G900VZW model.
EDIT2: Apparently App Ops and SuperSU survived the wipe and, after downloading Root Checker, I can confirm that I'm still rooted... Huh.

israphial said:
Hi. I'll cut to the chase. I was an idiot and thought I could just flash the Alliance ROM from my SD card, but my phone is currently a factory restored 5.0. So, after unsuccessfully flashing Alliance ROM, I thought, well, I probably need to be on 4.4.2 to do this. So, what I'm wondering is, do I need to go back down to 4.4.2 to install Alliance ROM? And do I need Safestrap recovery to do it, or can I do it from stock recovery (home button+volUp+Power)? I did a lot of digging in the Alliance ROM post and there were no posts regarding my problem/question, probably because they're all experienced and I'm not (this is my first time trying to flash a custom ROM).
It SOUNDS like I need to flash a full stock tar using Odin, is that correct? Once I do that, I would be on stock wiped 4.4.2, I assume. From there, could I flash the Alliance ROM and continue with the instructions? Or do I need to root first and get safestrap and all that crap? I feel like Beans was really vague with his instructions on installing ROMs, but whatever. Please help though, I'm kind of stuck in the middle of this with a softbricked phone.
Thank you so much in advance, I appreciate it.
~isra
EDIT: Also, I was on ROOTED 5.0 Lollipop just before this. I just got so sick of lollipop, I was ready for something different. So here we are. To confirm, my phone is the standard retail SM-G900VZW model.
EDIT2: Apparently App Ops and SuperSU survived the wipe and, after downloading Root Checker, I can confirm that I'm still rooted... Huh.
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Download busybox from play store. Install it. Install safestrap. Once recovery is installed, go into recovery, install alliance, from within safestrap, boot into download mode and flash the full firmware Odin tar.

Tulsadiver said:
Download busybox from play store. Install it. Install safestrap. Once recovery is installed, go into recovery, install alliance, from within safestrap, boot into download mode and flash the full firmware Odin tar.
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Wait, so I don't need to downgrade my phone? Keep in mind I'm on stock rooted 5.0, which just got factory reset so I got nothing except for the root. Also, what full firmware odin tar are you referring to? NE9? This one: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23610159112652201
Or this one: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23622183712472727
I'm getting these links from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ment/stock-collection-kernels-modems-t2842069
I really appreciate you replying. Thank you.

The first one. That firmware will downgrade you to NE9.

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The first one. That firmware will downgrade you to NE9.
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Ok, so I don't need to downgrade to install the ROM. Got it. Thank you. Is there anything else I should know?

Not that I know of. ROM installations are different so always refer to their installation instructions. Some will say to flash the firmware first. The op knows best. Alliance NE9 says to do a full wipe (everything but SD card). Install the ROM, reboot to download mode ( don't hit reboot system). Once in download mode, flash the firmware tar and let your phone reboot.

Tulsadiver said:
Not that I know of. ROM installations are different so always refer to their installation instructions. Some will say to flash the firmware first. The op knows best. Alliance NE9 says to do a full wipe (everything but SD card). Install the ROM, reboot to download mode ( don't hit reboot system). Once in download mode, flash the firmware tar and let your phone reboot.
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So, I installed Safestrap and did all that, but when I press the reboot into recovery button, it just reboots the phone normally. It doesn't go into safestrap recovery. Am I supposed to hold some buttons or something?

Did safestrap ask for SuperSU permissions? Did you install busy box? You can't just download the app.

Tulsadiver said:
Did safestrap ask for SuperSU permissions? Did you install busy box? You can't just download the app.
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Yes, I've installed BusyBox and given SS root permissions. I installed the APK 3.75 Safestrap that I used to get into SS recovery when I was getting to rooted 5.0 a while back, so I know that the APK isn't corrupt or anything like that.

I forgot. You are on lollipop. You need to flash the NE9 kernel first ( via Odin). You already have safestrap but it doesn't work on lollipop. After you flash the NE9 kernel you will have the option to boot into recovery. Have alliance on your SD card ready to install.

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I forgot. You are on lollipop. You need to flash the NE9 kernel first ( via Odin). You already have safestrap but it doesn't work on lollipop. After you flash the NE9 kernel you will have the option to boot into recovery. Have alliance on your SD card ready to install.
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Found a "NE9 Stock tar.md5". Does that sound right? DL is here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567721275

Found a "NE9 Stock tar.md5". Does that sound right? DL is here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567721275

israphial said:
Found a "NE9 Stock tar.md5". Does that sound right? DL is here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567721275
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That is it.

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That is it.
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Thank you. I'm going to flash the kernel then, then I'll get back to you if anything comes up. Again, I really appreciate you helping me. Thank you.

Tulsadiver said:
That is it.
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It booted into stock recovery mode after odin successfully flashed NE9. Now do I install the ROM from stock recovery, or do I boot the phone and get to Safestrap to install the ROM from Safestrap recovery? I am currently in recovery mode.

You must not have had safestrap on your phone after all. Can you get back to download mode? You probably need to flash your lollipop kernel to get back to lollipop.

Tulsadiver said:
You must not have had safestrap on your phone after all. Can you get back to download mode? You probably need to flash your lollipop kernel to get back to lollipop.
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I definitely had safestrap. Though, here's something: Everyone talks about a menu that pops up during boot that allows you to enter either safestrap recovery, or boot, and I've never had/seen that menu, even when I was rooting 5.0. Yes, my BusyBox worked and was properly installed, and yes, I had Safestrap recovery installed.
I just tried rebooting and it after sitting at the first screen for a while, it rebooted quickly and went back into recovery mode. What if I try installing Alliance from recovery mode? Will it work?

israphial said:
I definitely had safestrap. Though, here's something: Everyone talks about a menu that pops up during boot that allows you to enter either safestrap recovery, or boot, and I've never had/seen that menu, even when I was rooting 5.0. Yes, my BusyBox worked and was properly installed, and yes, I had Safestrap recovery installed.
I just tried rebooting and it after sitting at the first screen for a while, it rebooted quickly and went back into recovery mode. What if I try installing Alliance from recovery mode? Will it work?
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I've never been on stock recovery before. I think it has to be a custom recovery. You might need to pull your battery and let it set for a bit and see if you can get into download mode.

Tulsadiver said:
I've never been on stock recovery before. I think it has to be a custom recovery. You might need to pull your battery and let it set for a bit and see if you can get into download mode.
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I can get into download mode perfectly fine. I'm going to kernel back to 5.0 then...
But what do I do now? Should I downgrade to 4.4.2 with the stock firmware once I successfully boot 5.0?
EDIT: Yup, booted 5.0 perfectly fine. Now what? Downgrade to 4.4.2 and flash the NE9 Kernel?

Proof that Safestrap is on my phone:
http://imgur.com/cGa1v1n

[SOLVED] bricked my phone using twrp app...

tried to install twrp from app.. got the "software not authorized..." message.. tried to boot from download mode as others have suggested but still recieve "software not authorized..." message..
phone was loki`ed from begining and never took at&t updates. in odin 3.09 phone shows as a com..
is there anything i can do to bring this phone back to life??

If the bootloader isn't locked, flash a stock rom from sammobile.com.

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If the bootloader isn't locked, flash a stock rom from sammobile.com.
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thanks for your response... holding the up-volume and power only results with the same "not authorized" screen.. also adb does not list it as a device but odin does add it..

Download mode is power and volume down.

audit13 said:
Download mode is power and volume down.
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sorry confused it with recovery.. the file from sammobile will leave 100% stock?? also whch of the 2 files mdl is the newest of the two
will i need to start over like in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297900 ??

Just flash the stock rom in Odin and perform a factory wipe before booting the stock rom for the first time.

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Just flash the stock rom in Odin and perform a factory wipe before booting the stock rom for the first time.
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well that worked brilliantly. what should i use to get twrp and root back?

You can use Odin to flash twrp and root with an unlocked bootloader.
Twrp: https://dl.twrp.me/jflteatt/
Flash SuperSU from twrp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703

dook13 said:
well that worked brilliantly. what should i use to get twrp and root back?
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Towel root works with the MDL bootloader for rooting. Can't tell you how to get TWRP, I use CWM on my at&t S4.

StoneyJSG said:
Towel root works with the MDL bootloader for rooting. Can't tell you how to get TWRP, I use CWM on my at&t S4.
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i just used the CASUAL app i linked earlier.. it worked to get root and installed twrp..
now i'm looking for a decent rom to install.. all the ones i used to use aren't supported any longer..

I hear Thor ROM and Golden eye ROM are nice and fast TW roms. For non touch wiz there is probably an CM or AOSP rom out there somewhere.