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Anyone try this app on the Inc? It does make the SD card read/write much faster. I was wondering if it was bad for the phone or the card to do this. Seems ok so far and the app was free.
Yes, I've tried it on my Inc. I'm running CM7 with Chad's incredikernel and the app didn't make any difference for me, regardless of what I set it to. I also tried manually adjusting the read_ahead files, in the off-chance that the app itself just wasn't working. I still haven't been able to achieve any performance increase.
According to Chad, however, my lack of a result is normal given my setup:
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Adjusting the cache doesn't help much on .37 like it did on previous kernels.
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From what I've read, the effectiveness of this method also depends on the card you're using.
Works great for me on Redemption Rom. No waiting to load thumbnails and phone feels a bit smoother
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Yeah, been using it for a few days now and its a lot better. I would recommend this app to anyone with a larger SD card especially if you have a lot of stuff on it. its FREE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683123
How to use Swap space on SD to increase ram on our devices so we can run more demanding apps.
swap is possible only with custom kernel, so it will not work for us
I believe that doixanh proved more than enough that custom kernel is not needed for any kernel modifications Still, we would need a module.
but i don't think that he should make swap module it will be better if he will finish this
Well, it's up to him what he wishes to develop
IMO swap is useless for Android. It has its own memory management already.
And it would certainly take a high class sd card, AND it would be harmful for it So next time we should just buy a phone with bigger RAM memory
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IMO swap is useless for Android. It has its own memory management already.
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So, how can we increase the memory through SD, my finding isn't good ? If not, how to do it the right way?XD
Graveir said:
And it would certainly take a high class sd card, AND it would be harmful for it So next time we should just buy a phone with bigger RAM memory
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I don't really care about my SD card's health XD i just want more ram XD
But what do you need slow RAM for? RAM is very dynamic and since we already use app2sd it could even slow your device down instead of enhancing performance...
EDIT: Well, maybe it would be faster if you have a class 10 card...
Yeah SD is slow and putting swap there will be incredibly slow.
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Yeah SD is slow and putting swap there will be incredibly slow.
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Yes, but i want this because you know that there are some applications that won't run on X8 because of it's low ram...so, i dont care about about speed, also, i don't use app2sd, so no slowdown, I am using Class 4 card
Yeah I know. Just my opinion
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Yeah I know. Just my opinion
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So, is there a way of using ram just for the ram consuming apps, to make X8 able to at least run them? (You already released an SD card speed fix, so it should go a bit faster...Can you help me, cuz i really like running RAM hungry apps and i don't have enough ram :|
No I don't know about that. Haven't tried swap thingies yet
for example, there are games, like dungeon defenders that requires 256 MB of RAM at the runtime (it's the requirement of unreal enginge 3 i belive). some guys have managed to run the game on LG swift, which is pretty much the same device as x8 when it comes to hardware. maybe it's not running too fast (although i saw some video where it was even faster than on some more powerful devices), and it's not quite playable, but some people might still enjoy it. and without SWAP, it's impossible; and it's just a one example.
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for example, there are games, like dungeon defenders that requires 256 MB of RAM at the runtime (it's the requirement of unreal enginge 3 i belive). some guys have managed to run the game on LG swift, which is pretty much the same device as x8 when it comes to hardware. maybe it's not running too fast (although i saw some video where it was even faster than on some more powerful devices), and it's not quite playable, but some people might still enjoy it. and without SWAP, it's impossible; and it's just a one example.
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Thanks for supporting my ideea XD We really need Swap for Ram Hungry apps
Yes. great. ideA. but... is posible?
The app that does this on market requires custom kernel so might not be possible atm
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Most Say that a swap file doesn't make Much of a Difference, From personal experience I would have to disagree
Running free in the terminal on a normal nor swap enabled day I would have 22 - 200 free, this is running no programs, and 3 email accounts
Recently I created and enabled a 512MB swap on my SD, against my better judgment of swapping on solid state..
This has had Drastic improvement in performance let alone free not showing 3916 free in mem and 14424 used on the swap, My shift is alot more fluid and responsive,
Your results may vary but i figured i would share my results
Im running scarystable comp cache 18%, vm heap 48m on CM7 nightly 238
again I don't claim to know anything more then the next guy Just sharing my results
Give me about 15 minutes and you can have these types of stats when you type free in terminal. It does help, regardless of what others have said. And scary kernel will work.
http://db.tt/6NzMLnpl
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I love it, Now my only worry it the wear on my SDcard, but I figure aslong as I delete and create the Swap file once in a while it will ware evenly, I just never expected this kind of gain from it.
I will admit 512 may be overkill but it sounded nice
Thanks for your results!
The problem with swap files/partitions is they're slower then ram so you need to buy the highest class sdcard your device can handle to have anything resembling a positive effect and they'll destroy your sdcard. Plus unless you have a script or app to manage swap its a pain to have to disable and re-enable swap when attaching to your pc through usb.
With our devices having 512 ram and something like V6Supercharger with compcache disabled I've found I always have more then enough free ram for pretty much anything.
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Move thread to here: New thread with instruction and patch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18921074#post18921074
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Ron Overdrive said:
The problem with swap files/partitions is they're slower then ram so you need to buy the highest class sdcard your device can handle to have anything resembling a positive effect and they'll destroy your sdcard. Plus unless you have a script or app to manage swap its a pain to have to disable and re-enable swap when attaching to your pc through usb.
With our devices having 512 ram and something like V6Supercharger with compcache disabled I've found I always have more then enough free ram for pretty much anything.
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No, swap file is slow, swap partition is not
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No, swap file is slow, swap partition is not
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The data rate of a class 10 sdcard is 10MB/s. DDR-200 which is the oldest and slowest DDR ram is 1600MB/s. Swap is slow regardless whether its a file or a partition.
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The data rate of a class 10 sdcard is 10MB/s. DDR-200 which is the oldest and slowest DDR ram is 1600MB/s. Swap is slow regardless whether its a file or a partition.
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There is a difference between swap file and swap partition
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There is a difference between swap file and swap partition
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Yes, but a swap partition can -not- increase the physical read/write speed of the sdcard which is the point I'm making. Is swap file slower then a partition? Yes I never argued that. My argument is swap in general is slow.
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Yes, but a swap partition can -not- increase the physical read/write speed of the sdcard which is the point I'm making. Is swap file slower then a partition? Yes I never argued that. My argument is swap in general is slow.
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If your here to use, test swap, provide your results ect fine. If your here to bash swap, then please stfu and go away. We don't need negativity in these forums. do you even know what swappiness is or how to set it?
Swap
Swap is not meant nor does it truly need to be fast, From my understanding it takes whats not being used from ram and "swaps" it to disk to free up ram for programs that require the speed, It is not a replacement for direct ram.
None the less I thank sparksco for his Post and will be trying it out later in much anticipation
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Swap is not meant nor does it truly need to be fast, From my understanding it takes whats not being used from ram and "swaps" it to disk to free up ram for programs that require the speed, It is not a replacement for direct ram.
None the less I thank sparksco for his Post and will be trying it out later in much anticipation
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Your trolling skills amaze me...
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JaceAlvejetti said:
Swap is not meant nor does it truly need to be fast, From my understanding it takes whats not being used from ram and "swaps" it to disk to free up ram for programs that require the speed, It is not a replacement for direct ram.
None the less I thank sparksco for his Post and will be trying it out later in much anticipation
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Nice
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JaceAlvejetti said:
Most Say that a swap file doesn't make Much of a Difference, From personal experience I would have to disagree
Running free in the terminal on a normal nor swap enabled day I would have 22 - 200 free, this is running no programs, and 3 email accounts
Recently I created and enabled a 512MB swap on my SD, against my better judgment of swapping on solid state..
This has had Drastic improvement in performance let alone free not showing 3916 free in mem and 14424 used on the swap, My shift is alot more fluid and responsive,
Your results may vary but i figured i would share my results
Im running scarystable comp cache 18%, vm heap 48m on CM7 nightly 238
again I don't claim to know anything more then the next guy Just sharing my results
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Swap file is useless and slows your phone down. Just like a pagefile on windows.
"disk" is ALWAYS slower than "RAM"
Post your linpack and antutu scores.
So I recently changed over to the nexus 4, and I say, it is AMAZING. I just got to the point where the SGS just didnt cut it anymore. It has hung in there for a long time, but its starting to become under-powered for new versions of Android.
So in this guide, I am going to show you how to speed up your Galaxy S, and push it to its max performance.
You will need a custom kernel like Semaphore. I made this guide with no regard to battery life, but i did avoid using un-necessary power.
1. Live OC
- This increases the Bus, Ram and GPU speeds.
- This is very good because information can only be transferred as fast as the bus can transfer it. So if your CPU is fast, but your bus is to slow, it creates a bottle neck. So upping bus speed as well as CPU/GPU/Ram speeds can drastically increase performance.
- Find settings that are stable for your phone. For me this was 123%.
- Note that this will change the CPU clock speed choices that you have. Normal.
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2. CPU Clock Speed / Governor
- Increasing Clock Speeds allow your processor to calculate more per second, therefore increasing performance.
- Start by finding the maximum frequency that your device is capable of handling, while still keeping stability. For me, this is 1400MHZ.
- Set lowest clock speed to 200 or 400. 200 is the best all-round, and actually uses less power than 100MHZ due to faster race to idle. I use 400 for performance.
- Use a snappy governor. Min/max is great, it is what i use.
- For more battery. lulzactive, ondemand, and smartass are all good.
- Enable smooth UI tweak.
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3. RAM settings / management.
A. MOAR RAM.
- The Galaxy S has very limited ram, so we must make the best of it.
- It has 500mb, but some is allocated for the camera and GPU, so we only get ~400 in the end.
- Use the Bigmem option. Around 400mb, but breaks 720p recording. Its a good sacrifice.
- Also, Un-install any apps that you are not using! This can free up cache space and leave it for important processes. Go to settings/running/caches for more info.
- Go to settings/developer options/background process limit, and set this to keep more ram free. I use 3.
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B. Enabling Swap
- Enabling swap allows the kernel to use specially allocated memory (on your SD card) to store cached pages that aren't currently being used, instead of storing them in RAM.
- Frees RAM for foreground or heavy processes.
- Make sure you use a fast SD card, and do not set the swappiness to high, both of these can slow your phone down.
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4. CM Performance Settings.
- Setting these properly can also increase performance on your device. It will not create any instabilities.
- I/O schedulers are all very similar. I personally prefer SIO, CFQ, or VR
- Under Memory management, Allow purging of assets and enable Kernel same page merging. Both use more clock cycles, but free needed RAM.
- Avoid ZRAM. Performance gain is not enough for the number of clock cycles needed to compress and decompress the RAM.
- Enable 16 bit transparency. Lighter load on the system when drawing graphics, and has never causes visual artifacts for me.
- Disable surface dithering. One less thing for your device to do, equals more performance.
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5. Animation Scales (not necessary)
- This simply makes your device LOOK faster buy increasing the speed of the animations.
- Go to developer options and find Window Animations scale, Transition Animation Scale, and Animator Duration Scale.
- Turn them all to 0.5 for a faster UI.
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Questions? Feel free.
But OC my phone will make my phone die faster yea?
Because I afraid to destroyed my phone
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It does reduce life for sure. As does live OC.
I over clocked my phone for a long time, and it has had no bad effects. It works great to this day. It reduces, but not significantly that you should worry about.
Most CPUS are designed to last for 10+ years, and you may take a year or two off. Nothing major!
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It does reduce life for sure. As does live OC.
I over clocked my phone for a long time, and it has had no bad effects. It works great to this day. It reduces, but not significantly that you should worry about.
Most CPUS are designed to last for 10+ years, and you may take a year or two off. Nothing major!
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I think even less, Ive never heard of anyone suffering at anything from oc anything.
This is an amazing guide and it has everything explained in one place thank you!
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Where/how do you enable swap?
good guide but currently not necassary to do,more and more roms are made with enough to tweak the perfomance already done,ive not found anything that has pushed my phone while on a decent custom rom
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Where/how do you enable swap?
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Try this. I never used this guide myself, i just searched it up. Maybe ill add it to the OP if you have success with the guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610835
friartuckme said:
good guide but currently not necassary to do,more and more roms are made with enough to tweak the perfomance already done,ive not found anything that has pushed my phone while on a decent custom rom
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it is not necessary at all, but there is nothing wrong with getting as much bang for your buck as you can!
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Try this. I never used this guide myself, i just searched it up. Maybe ill add it to the OP if you have success with the guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610835
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This thread isn't really a guide then, it doesn't look like you can use swap with semaphore.
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This thread isn't really a guide then, it doesn't look like you can use swap with semaphore.
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I'm abit out of the loop. I used devil kernel and it had it. I know cyancore kernel has it!
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it is not necessary at all, but there is nothing wrong with getting as much bang for your buck as you can!
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very true,i agree
Does this work as good as it says?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLnN3YXBpdC5leHBhbmRlci5kZSJd
its good for gaming and multitask
and good for xperia play with 512 mb ram you try it good
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and good for xperia play with 512 mb ram you try it good
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have you tried it?
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have you tried it?
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There are some benefits to SWAP yes, however using your MicroSD as RAM is far far slower than using actual RAM - so some things can play a little badly with it.
It also isn't a healthy thing to use when it comes to prolonging the lifespan of your MicroSD card as its using all those writes at an almost constant rate.
That being said though, enabling a SWAP partition on your MicroSD card is a somewhat easy thing to do and there are loads of other apps that will do this for free for you. I would not pay for this.
me tried in all roms me use my memory class 10 and good swap for me
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There are some benefits to SWAP yes, however using your MicroSD as RAM is far far slower than using actual RAM - so some things can play a little badly with it.
It also isn't a healthy thing to use when it comes to prolonging the lifespan of your MicroSD card as its using all those writes at an almost constant rate.
That being said though, enabling a SWAP partition on your MicroSD card is a somewhat easy thing to do and there are loads of other apps that will do this for free for you. I would not pay for this.
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So what your saying is it would let me have more multitasking but at the same time it would be slower.
First here is how to do that for free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32729884
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And yes I use that method, for me my Neo2Play gained some speed, less lags. But there is but, best is when used with fast card. I have 32GB class 10, on my old class 2 it wasn't so impressive.
Works great for me with 1105 MB swap RAM on Atomic GB 7.0.(2.3.7) Especially when using it with RAM Manager Pro on Hard Multitasking setting.
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This sounds cool
amazing
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Works great for me with 1105 MB swap RAM on Atomic GB 7.0.(2.3.7) Especially when using it with RAM Manager Pro on Hard Multitasking setting.
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amazing :laugh:
working
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amazing :laugh:
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I found a free version as well v2.0.2 and use it on my I337 S4 from ATT and works with not one force close