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root and safestrap ?,?

I am about to buy a used verizon note 3 its running 4.5 can this version be rooted and safestrapped to run custom roms? ??

Anyone know if this phone with version 4.5 android can be rooted and use safestrap so I can run custom roms

DizzyFox said:
Anyone know if this phone with version 4.5 android can be rooted and use safestrap so I can run custom roms
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Android 4.3, yes safestrap and root will work. I think 4.5 must be a typo. Try rooting with Kingo or Vroot.

I would also double check what version of JellyBean the device is running. Also, what is the Baseband version? Is it: MI9, MJ7 or MJE?

Misterxtc said:
Android 4.3, yes safestrap and root will work. I think 4.5 must be a typo. Try rooting with Kingo or Vroot.
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I'm sorry it was 4.3 which do you think is better progam to root with

Kingo seems to be more safe but no problems have been reported with either. I have used both with no problems. So if Kingo dose not work for you use Vroot and then replace the Chinese superuser with Chainfires supersu.

tw1n5nak35 said:
I woversionalso double check what version of JellyBean the device is running. Also, what is the Baseband version? Is it: MI9, MJ7 or MJE?
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ok so it matters what baseband version its running when you root and safestrap it?

DizzyFox said:
ok so it matters what baseband version its running when you root and safestrap it?
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It's for the radio's and modem. If it's updated to MJE, then you will just have to root, install safestrap and flash roms. But if you want to run the latest and greatest of the best rom's, the devs recommend that you be on the updated baseband MJE.
As suppose to if the phone is MI9 or MJ7, you can stay on that baseband or you can ODIN and update to MJE.
Your mileage may very. I've seen users who have updated and have tethering, wifi and gps issues. Some who have updated do not have these issues on the updated baseband and users like me who are on MI9 have not experienced any of these and decided to stay on the default baseband.
If you decide to go ahead and purchase the phone, here is a link with better info on how to ODIN and update baseband, coming from either MI9 or MJ7 and updating to MJE. Best of luck, hopefully you can get the phone, root, install safestrap, flash the roms that you like and happy testing. Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528707

tw1n5nak35 said:
It's for the radio's and modem. If it's updated to MJE, then you will just have to root, install safestrap and flash roms. But if you want to run the latest and greatest of the best rom's, the devs recommend that you be on the updated baseband MJE.
As suppose to if the phone is MI9 or MJ7, you can stay on that baseband or you can ODIN and update to MJE.
Your mileage may very. I've seen users who have updated and have tethering, wifi and gps issues. Some who have updated do not have these issues on the updated baseband and users like me who are on MI9 have not experienced any of these and decided to stay on the default baseband.
If you decide to go ahead and purchase the phone, here is a link with better info on how to ODIN and update baseband, coming from either MI9 or MJ7 and updating to MJE. Best of luck, hopefully you can get the phone, root, install safestrap, flash the roms that you like and happy testing. Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528707
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Thanks this has been great information.

DizzyFox said:
Thanks this has been great information.
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Your welcome

Anyone got Stock NC4 firmware?

I want to clean up my phone and get the NC4 firmware and get the new root method and install Eclipse.
Anyone provide the fir.ware for me please.
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scoreboard said:
I want to clean up my phone and get the NC4 firmware and get the new root method and install Eclipse.
Anyone provide the fir.ware for me please.
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Eclipse is NC2 not NC4.. Just install the nc2 leak.

scoreboard said:
I want to clean up my phone and get the NC4 firmware and get the new root method and install Eclipse.
Anyone provide the fir.ware for me please.
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This should be in the Q and A/Troubleshooting section, just for future reference.

Still need that Stock NC4 firmware tar.
Tried to flash NC2 over NC4, softbricked now :/
Upon booting says to use Software Repair Assistant from Verizon, can't get into recovery, can't get into SafeStrap, only Download / Odin mode.

Because once your on the nc4 ota, you cannot go back.
Firmware
http://samsung-updates.com/latest-firmware/
《 #VerizonLovesYou 》

http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23487008491963309 don't use unless you were already on nc4. Otherwise use nc2.
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I was on the nc4 ota, rooted this morning with the new method, but have had no luck installing eclipse yet.
about to try another rom, and see if it takes but for the time being I have root, just can't install a rom

ROB281 said:
I was on the nc4 ota, rooted this morning with the new method, but have had no luck installing eclipse yet.
about to try another rom, and see if it takes but for the time being I have root, just can't install a rom
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it's a weird quirk with the firmware. nc4 firmware/bootloader can only have nc4 based roms flashed over it. I believe Jasmine rom in dev section has a beta release you might be able to use...
《 #VerizonLovesYou 》

I'm guessing there's still no way to downgrade to NC2 is there?

ROB281 said:
I'm guessing there's still no way to downgrade to NC2 is there?
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Call verizon and get a replacement with mje on it is the only way I've seen. Lol. Some note 3 have signal issues.....
TaPpEd from my XpOsEd 4.4.2 NIII

Official Stock 4.4.2 Kitkat NC4 Firmware...
Zip file (1.6 GB):
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=29319 and http://rapidgator.net/file/d6f6780043f87044b413b3e0704909c6
OR
Extracted Tar File (2.3 GB):
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23487008491963309

ROB281 said:
I was on the nc4 ota, rooted this morning with the new method, but have had no luck installing eclipse yet.
about to try another rom, and see if it takes but for the time being I have root, just can't install a rom
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Well if u have NC4 OTA then i think you can flash the leaked NC2 kernel in ODIN, install safestrap and then can flash Eclipse because Eclipse ROM will run on NC2 kernel not NC4 kernel...

[Q] rooted safestrap mf3 to kitkat

I have searched the topic and only found this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717175
Can I go from MF3 Hyperdrive rom 4.2.2. to a 4.4.4 custom rom or 4.3.X custom rom?

I really don't see any advantage still being on MF3. As far as I see, your best bet is to Odin flash the towelrootable version of NB1, root using towelroot, put selinux in permissive mode, install safestrap 3.72 and install a KitKat ROM from the big list of Roms available.
All required info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221

never mind...

jazzmoe76 said:
will this NC1 update already be rooted and have SS installed? Or is it a zip with those files included to utilize during the aforementioned update process?
Zip file containing the updated SuperSU, SELinux mode changer, SS 3.72, Towelroot, and NC1 kernel modules can be found here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53431153&postcount=1948
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When towelroot was initially released, only NC1 was rootable. We do not have the full firmware for NC1 but we do have for NB1 and that could be updated to NC1 using the update zip.
We now have a odin flashable firmware based on NB1 that is rootable with towelroot. So, there is no real need to update to NC1.
When flashing roms with safestrap, you would have to flash a zip containing the wifi modules based on the kernel you are using. If you have the NB1 firmware, you flash the NB1 kernel modules.
NB1 kernel modules can be obtained from the Deadly Venom Kitkat Magic tool thread. Download the NB1 version, extract and you should see a "AT&TNB1KernelModules.zip" file.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/swzhc0kg1x3l3mp/AT&TNB1KernelModules.zip

jmjoyas said:
When towelroot was initially released, only NC1 was rootable. We do not have the full firmware for NC1 but we do have for NB1 and that could be updated to NC1 using the update zip.
We now have a odin flashable firmware based on NB1 that is rootable with towelroot. So, there is no real need to update to NC1.
When flashing roms with safestrap, you would have to flash a zip containing the wifi modules based on the kernel you are using. If you have the NB1 firmware, you flash the NB1 kernel modules.
NB1 kernel modules can be obtained from the Deadly Venom Kitkat Magic tool thread. Download the NB1 version, extract and you should see a "AT&TNB1KernelModules.zip" file.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/swzhc0kg1x3l3mp/AT&TNB1KernelModules.zip
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I followed the instructions given in the above post. I tried to load the goldeneye rom and got a horrible att kernel error. is what you said in your post why? I'm just a bit behind. I loaded 4.2.2 hyperdrive and haven't touched my phone in about a year. I am on the
nc1 bb stock with root and recovery. I want a custom rom. Whats my next move? ty in advance.

[Q] Odin back to stock

So I've got to Odin my phone back to stock.
Currently, It's running NC2 4.4 - Jasmine ROM 2.0.
What firmware do I need to download to Odin it back to stock.
The MJE 4.3 or NC4 4.4?

ForeverZ3RO said:
So I've got to Odin my phone back to stock.
Currently, It's running NC2 4.4 - Jasmine ROM 2.0.
What firmware do I need to download to Odin it back to stock.
The MJE 4.3 or NC4 4.4?
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You could have put this in your other thread, the firmware will automatically be installed when you install MJE.

You need MJE unless you want to go to NC4?

[Q] About to dive into ROMing, have a couple questions

So I've got a Verizon Note 3 running android 4.3 rooted with supersu + busybox, decent amount of samsung bloatware disabled. I am wondering for starters if I were to install safestrap if I can just keep the way it currently is and then use a rom slot for any roms or should I factory wipe the stock slot, install 4.4.2 via odin then root via towelroot and then install safestrap and rom from that or what method should I take? Is it possible to use the ROM slots on the VZN3? I watched a few youtube videos and they were all factory resetting the stock slot and installing it there but I'd love to be able to just keep my current setup as is since it'd be a guranteed fallback. In case this doesnt make sense just respond as to what needs clarification and i'll respond in less than 5 minutes.

You can use only the jelly bean roms while on jb. Follow the instructions to use a kitkat rom in each roms op. You have to odin the kernal. You will retain root if following them. You dont need to use towelroot.

So can i just do a rom slot or do I have to upgrade to kit kat? What do you mean by odin the kernel?

Its really to much to explain… you probably really have to do some read up on odin software and kernels before you attempt to do anything on your phone cause no one is responsible but you… So please google search how to odin or how to flash a unified kernel NC2 or NC4… Nc2 is a older but more versatile kernel of 4.4.2 and Nc4 is the lastest kernel likely the one that your on now go to about phone and look under Baseband Version yours should say NC4 the last 3 character

waco2hot33 said:
Its really to much to explain… you probably really have to do some read up on odin software and kernels before you attempt to do anything on your phone cause no one is responsible but you… So please google search how to odin or how to flash a unified kernel NC2 or NC4… Nc2 is a older but more versatile kernel of 4.4.2 and Nc4 is the lastest kernel likely the one that your on now go to about phone and look under Baseband Version yours should say NC4 the last 3 character
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Seems like saying kernel is unnecessary, isn't this just flashing the .tar or whatever format it is to the phone using odin, i've already done that. I just need to upgrade to NC4? No one is answering the question of whether i can just use the rom slots and keep the stock slot active on MJE.

Xproplayer said:
Seems like saying kernel is unnecessary, isn't this just flashing the .tar or whatever format it is to the phone using odin, i've already done that. I just need to upgrade to NC4? No one is answering the question of whether i can just use the rom slots and keep the stock slot active on MJE.
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Once you upgrade to KK your MJE roms won't work so if you have a real love for a particular MJE rom stay on MJE. On KK and the updated safestrap rom slots work but with mixed results, some people have no problems and other roms in slots other than stock have seen performance issues.
You only need the NC2 kernel if you took the NC4 OTA, if you upgrade via this method you don't have to worry about it.
See here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55241731&postcount=2

waco2hot33 said:
Its really to much to explain… you probably really have to do some read up on odin software and kernels before you attempt to do anything on your phone cause no one is responsible but you… So please google search how to odin or how to flash a unified kernel NC2 or NC4… Nc2 is a older but more versatile kernel of 4.4.2 and Nc4 is the lastest kernel likely the one that your on now go to about phone and look under Baseband Version yours should say NC4 the last 3 character
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thegamerdarkseid said:
Once you upgrade to KK your MJE roms won't work so if you have a real love for a particular MJE rom stay on MJE. On KK and the updated safestrap rom slots work but with mixed results, some people have no problems and other roms in slots other than stock have seen performance issues.
You only need the NC2 kernel if you took the NC4 OTA, if you upgrade via this method you don't have to worry about it.
See here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55241731&postcount=2
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I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms

Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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No that can't happen unless there's something huge that I don't know about. They are different firmwares. But if you do the rooted upgrade you can go back if you prefer ME, if you do the OTA there's no going back to MJE.

Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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No that can't happen unless there's something huge that I don't know about. They are different firmwares. But if you do the rooted upgrade you can go back if you prefer ME, if you do the OTA there's no going back to MJE.
Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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No that can't happen unless there's something huge that I don't know about. They are different firmwares. But if you do the rooted upgrade you can go back if you prefer ME, if you do the OTA there's no going back to MJE.

Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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currently the only rom that runs with the NC4 kernel is jasmine.

the_rooter said:
currently the only rom that runs with the NC4 kernel is jasmine.
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Are you sure? I was looking at alliancerom and it says NC4 4.4.2 in the name...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553357

Xproplayer said:
Are you sure? I was looking at alliancerom and it says NC4 4.4.2 in the name...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553357
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Yes Alliance is nc2 kernel but it'll be nc4 next build..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55373385

thegamerdarkseid said:
Yes Alliance is nc2 kernel but it'll be nc4 next build..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55373385
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Do you happen to know about hyerdrive, and just to clarify i should be able to flash nc2 to my vzn3 and then install alliance over it

Both are possible; I did the latter. ROM slots do not work with SS 3.72 and above (the one you will need if you are running kit Kat). You can only flash ROMs to the stock slot, so make a nandroid first!
If you decide to stay on JB and SS 3.71, you can definitely keep a stock ROM in the stock slot and install another ROM on a custom ROM slot. Hope I could help.
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Actually since you're on note 3 you may need SS 3.75 if you're going to flash kit Kat Roms. If you have any questions feel free to email me. And yes Hyperdrive is an extremely popular TW ROM. Just make sure whatever android version you are on, flash a compatible ROM.
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Both are possible; I did the latter. ROM slots do not work with SS 3.72 and above (the one you will need if you are running kit Kat). You can only flash ROMs to the stock slot, so make a nandroid first!
If you decide to stay on JB and SS 3.71, you can definitely keep a stock ROM in the stock slot and install another ROM on a custom ROM slot. Hope I could help.
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Actually since you're on note 3 you may need SS 3.75 if you're going to flash kit Kat Roms. If you have any questions feel free to email me. And yes Hyperdrive is an extremely popular TW ROM. Just make sure whatever android version you are on, flash a compatible ROM.
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its actually ss 3.75 B04

So does anyone know about hyperdrive? I looked all over the thread and couldn't find anything..

Xproplayer said:
So does anyone know about hyperdrive? I looked all over the thread and couldn't find anything..
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What do you want to know about Hyperdrive? If you're on NC4 and you want to run Hyperdrive you'll have to flash the NC2 kernel after flashing the rom or it won't boot. Just flash the rom in safestrap and when you're done flashing use safestrap to boot into download mode and flash NC2 kernel in Odin in the AP slot. In all honesty I'd look into flashing @hsbadr unified kk firmware and then you could run any rom in this forum without worrying about flashing the NC2 kernel. I've done it and been able to bounce from rom to rom without any issues....

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What do you want to know about Hyperdrive? If you're on NC4 and you want to run Hyperdrive you'll have to flash the NC2 kernel after flashing the rom or it won't boot. Just flash the rom in safestrap and when you're done flashing use safestrap to boot into download mode and flash NC2 kernel in Odin in the AP slot. In all honesty I'd look into flashing @hsbadr unified kk firmware and then you could run any rom in this forum without worrying about flashing the NC2 kernel. I've done it and been able to bounce from rom to rom without any issues....
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I'm currently on 4.3 MJE, could you send some links on this unified, the only two roms I'm currently interested in are Hyperdrive and Alliance but I've been told each one has to be flashed onto specific roms etc etc.

Xproplayer said:
I'm currently on 4.3 MJE, could you send some links on this unified, the only two roms I'm currently interested in are Hyperdrive and Alliance but I've been told each one has to be flashed onto specific roms etc etc.
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Here's the link to the post look in Downloads. RE is for retail edition and DE is for Dev Edition. Don't flash the wrong one or you could brick your phone. The unified firmware is flashed in Odin in the AP slot and once you flash it you can jump from rom to rom without worrying about the NC2 kernel but since you're on MJE you'll need to do the KK upgrade before flashing unified firmware. See quote in red at the bottom of the Downloads section!! I don't want you to get the wrong impression as I'm not yelling at you or anything bro, I don't want anyone bricking their device....
Link to firmware : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52860439&postcount=1
Links for all other things : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55241731&postcount=2