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Positive experience of Z1

So many negative threads about how the screen sucks, the camera sucks etc etc. Would be nice to hear from the people who actually like the Z1. Write down your experience with the phone. It doesn't have to be all rosy but hopefully it will give a little bit more nuance.

Sure.
Last Saturday I got my Z1, I've had a Gnex for a long time and my first impressions are very good. The device is amazingly fast, everything works as it should, multitasking is very good, all performance related things are nothing to complain about.
The screen 'dead-on' is also nice the viewing angles people are talking about is something I don't really see as a problem. I just held the phone in an angle and when the colours start to wash out it's an angle I would never use my phone at. Other than that the camera does have noise issues, although it's not too bad IMHO. (do bear in mind I come from the Gnex so pretty much every new device is a big upgrade) I don't think the noise issues aren't too bad though, as Sony can easily fix the noise issues with a software update. Speaking of updates, the Z1 already had 3 updates. Whether this is a good or a bad thing is up to you, but to me it sounds like it's well supported by Sony.
Battery... I feel mixed about it. It's better than my Gnex, but again, pretty much every device is. I did expect a lot more from a 3000 mAh battery though. I had about 23 hours of standby and roughly 4 hours of screen on time. That is with 3G on all the time, wifi on most of the time and applications like Twitter, Whatsapp and Facebook running in the background. It's a weird thing though, the xperia ZR gets 11:30 (11 hours and 30 minutes) of browsing in the GSMarena test. While the Z1 gets about half of that. I have the feeling Sony has to do some software optimization, since they can pull it off. (note: the ZR battery is 2300 mAh) How long this will take, and if Sony will even do it, I have no idea. If the problem is related to Qualcomm it may take a long time though since they're not very keen on doing things in a different way. (look at the Nexus 7 2013 and binaries)
Overall I personally think the Xperia Z1 is an amazing device. It's super fast, the build quality is amazing and it feels really good.(get a case though!) There are things to improve on such as battery life and it depends on whether you trust Sony to fix these issues or not.

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Got mine yesterday.
S/W: problems yet
Performance: Extremely quick 9/10
Screen Quality: 8/10 but too early to say if I'm just being jaded by all the moaning.
Camera seems pretty good to me, what a blessing a proper camera button makes.
Shame I can't upload samples of photos / videos etc. I will find a way if request. Anyone wanna buy a Galaxy 3? ho ho..
Oh one thing I don't like, is having to uncover the charger port to charge it up (i know its re waterproofing).
My options are :-
Cut the cover flap off or buy a magnetic charger unit £30.00 !!!!! (I probably will.)
So far pretty dam good phone.
Paul

I've had my XZ1 since Saturday 21st sept, and so far I love it, the camera is good but has issues like the grain and noise which prevent it from being a great one.
Love the sharpness and colours of the screen and it's resolution makes browsing the Web or forums so easy.
I've gotten used to the waterproof tabs after having my Xtz before I got the z1 but at least if you don't like having to keep opening the flap you can use a magnetic charger cable or dock.
That's all I can think of at lol
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screen is best... best contrast and color you can get... no yellow tint or extra blue. no issue at all..
screen performance not so good from an angle... but who use it like that... 98% i use head on... 2 % ready to sacrifice. for head on awesomeness..
battery is a ****. (Wifi and bluetooth on, may be due to this)
Auto mode of camera is a ****..
play around with ISO in manual mode to get best shot for each scenario...
sound from speaker is not so good... even headphone sound (wired) is not good...
performance... nothing can beat it... samsung s4 struggles before this beast..
i am still on 518 firmware and no software issue so far.. using wireless headphones...

jos_031 said:
screen is best... best contrast and color you can get... no yellow tint or extra blue. no issue at all..
screen performance not so good from an angle... but who use it like that... 98% i use head on... 2 % ready to sacrifice. for head on awesomeness..
battery is a ****. (Wifi and bluetooth on, may be due to this)
Auto mode of camera is a ****..
play around with ISO in manual mode to get best shot for each scenario...
sound from speaker is not so good... even headphone sound (wired) is not good...
performance... nothing can beat it... samsung s4 struggles before this beast..
i am still on 518 firmware and no software issue so far.. using wireless headphones...
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For me it's this above plus
Weird touch screen issues where it goes a bit bonkers when doing the pattern unlock.

Wow a positive thread about the Z1, do my eyes deceive me?
Seriously it's nice to see positive in all the threads of doom and gloom.
Nice
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So I got mine yesterday.
Hardware: I can't tell you how gorgeous this phone is if you haven't seen it yet, the blend of pure vanilla white with the aluminium frame is a spot on direct hit in my eyes. Under the hood HW is even better. The S800 chip seriously flies and it's been a long time but Android is now becoming just as fluid as iOS and WP and it's great to see that.
Software: I am a big fan of the Sony UI simply because it's easy and it looks pretty vanilla, I haven't installed a Homescreen in 2 years now ever since I got a Xperia S and I am not changing that now. There is some minor SW bugs where some dialouges just doesn't show up but I can still press them(if I know their real position)
Camera: The camera is a serious SW mess because I know and I see that Sony has a good camera HW-wise BUT their SW and esspecially Auto mode is seriously one complete mess. Other than the major problems with the noise the camera app is fluid and it's quite promosing to have some nice options like AR and the Livestream mode.
Sound: THe loudspeaker is decent and nothing you would cheer about but it's better than my old XS of course. The headphone jack for me is perfect and I hear absolutely no difference when playing the same song on my XS or my Z1
Screen: THe screen for me is supersharp, I can only see a little difference in sharpness between my XS and Z1 but that is expected but still it's a nice feature. The colours are almost accurate(I had to increase my blue level by +3 to +4), viewing angles aren't the best but they are clearly better than my XS besides head on is the way to go in my world.
Battery: Battery is a mixed bag; Standby is EXCELLENT hours can go and the phone is still on the same percentage. However and this is a big one the battery during Web browsing or other minor things is seriously underperforming. Clearly this is also something wrong with the SW because other Sony phones does not have the same problem.
I hope this gives a good view on the phone, clearly Sony needs to fix the battery and the Camera and for some swap out faulty screens. Other than that my money was well put!

I got my XZ1 on monday and I love it so far! Yeah the viewing angles aren't the best but who is gonna use their phone from those angles? The camera is good, yes it needs some improvements but it isn't unusable.
The waterproof tabs take some getting used to after coming from a Nexus 4 but my battery lasts me about a day and a half almost 2; so I don't have to undo the tab to often.
I like the speaker, it isn't as loud as the one on the Note 2 I had but it is WAY better than the Nexus 4. I really like the notification LED also, its in a really discrete location and its pretty visible; and paired with light manager it is really useful for me.
Wifi has also been good for me, at least compared to my old N4. The overall speed of the phone is awesome! This thing rips!
Coming from the Nexus 4 this was a SOLID upgrade for me. SD card slot, better camera, Snapdragon 800, better speakers (ear piece also), and its waterproof? I can't really complain on my end!
I think people are just being a little too picky. I mean come on the phone has only been out for almost a week now. What else can you expect? Sony has been releasing updates pretty frequently so hopefully everything will get better soon.

So i will do that short: Sony Xperia Z1 is just good. Not perfect. but good and defently better as my old Xperia S. (Whiches i aso not so bad if i compare to to other cellphone from this timewindow)

Mine is good so far, only got it for 2days will test camera etc some more
One thing I can say about the screen:
I went to local store and compared to ZU screen, both on full brightness and my Z1 screen definitely has better colors and details then Z1. I tried the Sony sample pics and compared those.
Better details is due to 5" vs 6.4" I guess. But colors are really better on Z1, also in video I noticed the same result
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Love the z1
Got the Z1 on pre-order, arrived the 17th.
- First thing i notice, phone is not bulky (in oposition to what reviewers say). Second thing, sony actually provides screen protect (Awsome)
- Phone turns on great and continues to perform great, Loving 4g and the speed and smoothness of the whole system.
- Screen contrast is not superb, lost in comparison to the s4, but during video streaming/playback, it performed amazingly as being hit directly by sunlight it was still very clear.
- Overall The phone is amazing, everyone says constantly i can't stop playing around with it (so true).
The only negative i have is battery life. Due to my constant use it drains very very quickly. But i think i'll be able to fix that.

B1nny said:
Sure.
Last Saturday I got my Z1, I've had a Gnex for a long time and my first impressions are very good. The device is amazingly fast, everything works as it should, multitasking is very good, all performance related things are nothing to complain about.
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Overall I personally think the Xperia Z1 is an amazing device. It's super fast, the build quality is amazing and it feels really good.(get a case though!) There are things to improve on such as battery life and it depends on whether you trust Sony to fix these issues or not.
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I see you're from the Netherlands. Could you confirm we are still on 14.1.G.1.518 firmware? It seems everyone who has been able to upgrade to 534 firmware has far better camera results, yet I cannot update to this new firmware, still stuck on the old one. I'd love to update the firmware to get better camera results but I do not want to root this phone. I'm on Vodafone RED 4G btw, dunno if it mathers.. Thanks.

bramgg said:
I see you're from the Netherlands. Could you confirm we are still on 14.1.G.1.518 firmware? It seems everyone who has been able to upgrade to 534 firmware has far better camera results, yet I cannot update to this new firmware, still stuck on the old one. I'd love to update the firmware to get better camera results but I do not want to root this phone. I'm on Vodafone RED 4G btw, dunno if it mathers.. Thanks.
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I am. I can confirm I didn't get any updates on my unlocked Z1. I updated to 534 manually via flashtool though. (doesn't void warranty) I have no idea why we don't get the updates pushed to our phones.

thought i'd give my 2 cents here as i have been seeing a lot of negative comments, especially from people who judge way too quickly. Back when the Z came out i followed it madly and already had it on pre-order but i ended up getting a htc one. Ive had this phone for 2 days now and compared to my htc one it is a definite improvement. The only thing im getting used to is the size of the phone, i have small hands so you can imagine its not a 1 handed affair, but you cant fault the build quality, i love the fact that sony puts its own screen and back panel protector on (remember the x10). Call quality is amazing i have to say, loud and clear. performance is amazing, i can see the improvements in the chipset s800 has over s600 (was in my htc one), in real life you wont notice it too much but its defo there, games run amazing no lags and hits a very good fps (wild blood, real racing 3 in particular looks and plays amazingly). I've not really played with the camera much but its better than my htc one, that was the only thing i was disappointed with that phone. Now i have been constantly messing about with the phone so cant really give an accurate example of battery life, but what are you supposed to expect from a phone specc'd like this, yes it has a bigger capacity battery, it also has a big screen and a powerful cpu too, if i get a full days use out of it il be happy.

The Z1 is easily the best phone ever built. Its so nice to hold and use. Definitely my favourite phone to date and I have owned nearly all the previous flagship phones from most companies.

Absolutely blown away by this phone it's just amazing for me.
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Hi,
I'm totally new to android and the Z1 is my first personal android phone. My expectations where so high coming from many years of All iPhones.
I don't want to start a flame but yes I think android is a little behind (in some aspects) to ios7 BUT this device is actually freaking awesome and looks to me the only one that can beat the iPhone quality.
- High quality. When you touch it you feel that your money are well spent.
- The camera (if we consider is a phone) Is just super good.
- The Sony rom doesn't make me sad as and in a hurry to grab a random 3th party rom
- Display is super good colors looks real and rich. Yes view angles are not awesome but only crazy people use the phone in that way. One thing that NO ONE MENTION is that any phone is close to the iPhone under the sun. Surprise surprise according to phone arena the Z1 is in 2 place. That's for me means A LOT more than insane view angles. The only difect so far is the black. The display show (only in some circumstances) one of the lightest black on the market. You'll may notice it watching a movie (a dark one) in a dark room.
- screen protector: isn't so fragile as many said but yes isn't olephobic
Am I satisfied? A lot!!!!
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m8 or z2?

Guys cant decide between the 2 and i am getting one of them tomorrow not sure which
Basically i care more about the camera i know sony has more megapixels but what is htc 4 ultra megapixel?

wrong thread man ask in q and a thread -. -
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I had an HTC one m7 before I switched to the z1. At first I loved it, very good build quality, water proof and of course the camera is amazing. But I found it to be very slow when taking pictures and the software is full of bloatware most people will never use. The Rom support isn't nearly that of the one (m7 or m8) and I dont really notice that big of a difference between the pictures taken on the z1 and the m8. (I now use the m8) unless your going to be blowing the pictures up the difference is negligible. And the speed in which the m8 takes pictures is probably 3 times faster and I found better low light results. The z2 uses the exact same camera setup as the z1 except for the 4k video. Which is only beneficial if your doing a lot of slow mo shots. Sony has the right idea, their on the right track but their not quite there yet. Maybe on the z3 or even z4 they might get it right. Sony's cybershot division is laughing at what the mobile division is doing with their sensors.. ie not even close to what the potential is. Long story short it's a great piece of hardware but the software has a long way to go. Htc on the other hand has a perfect balance of the two and in my opinion a far superior mobile device. But this is all subjective, my experience may greatly differ from someone else's. If your going into a store, play with them both and find which one caters to your needs the best. All the luck!
On a side note... Not all the z1 or z2 phones are able to have their boot loader unlocked. Some models are impossible to unlocked. If this is important to you, do the research and see which models are sold in your region. And again good luck on your decision.
Edit: I see your in Vancouver, if you get your Sony from a carrier the boot loader will never be able to be unlocked.
And your right wrong section.

I have the Z2 and the M8 right now. Just got the Z2 and its already about to get listed. Had my phone show no signal for the first time in years with the Z2 and tonight I had a conversation with the gf and she said it sounded horrible. She kept asking me to repeat myself and kept saying I cant hear you. I know we talk less and less on our phones but my phone still has to function well as a phone first. Looks like the M8 is going back into my pocket after a fling with the Z2 that has not gone well. My .02

k.s.deviate said:
I had an HTC one m7 before I switched to the z1. At first I loved it, very good build quality, water proof and of course the camera is amazing. But I found it to be very slow when taking pictures and the software is full of bloatware most people will never use. The Rom support isn't nearly that of the one (m7 or m8) and I dont really notice that big of a difference between the pictures taken on the z1 and the m8. (I now use the m8) unless your going to be blowing the pictures up the difference is negligible. And the speed in which the m8 takes pictures is probably 3 times faster and I found better low light results. The z2 uses the exact same camera setup as the z1 except for the 4k video. Which is only beneficial if your doing a lot of slow mo shots. Sony has the right idea, their on the right track but their not quite there yet. Maybe on the z3 or even z4 they might get it right. Sony's cybershot division is laughing at what the mobile division is doing with their sensors.. ie not even close to what the potential is. Long story short it's a great piece of hardware but the software has a long way to go. Htc on the other hand has a perfect balance of the two and in my opinion a far superior mobile device. But this is all subjective, my experience may greatly differ from someone else's. If your going into a store, play with them both and find which one caters to your needs the best. All the luck!
On a side note... Not all the z1 or z2 phones are able to have their boot loader unlocked. Some models are impossible to unlocked. If this is important to you, do the research and see which models are sold in your region. And again good luck on your decision.
Edit: I see your in Vancouver, if you get your Sony from a carrier the boot loader will never be able to be unlocked.
And your right wrong section.
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i have buyer for both phone right now and no i wont be blowing it up just mainly use the camera on instagram thats it. So if bootloader cant be unlocked means no custom rom? right?

Kmac_thp said:
I have the Z2 and the M8 right now. Just got the Z2 and its already about to get listed. Had my phone show no signal for the first time in years with the Z2 and tonight I had a conversation with the gf and she said it sounded horrible. She kept asking me to repeat myself and kept saying I cant hear you. I know we talk less and less on our phones but my phone still has to function well as a phone first. Looks like the M8 is going back into my pocket after a fling with the Z2 that has not gone well. My .02
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wow that sucks i just sold my s5 today. Reason i never had a htc in past 3 or 4 years cause of the battery life? hows the battery on m8? like screentime?

sofia-captivate said:
wow that sucks i just sold my s5 today. Reason i never had a htc in past 3 or 4 years cause of the battery life? hows the battery on m8? like screentime?
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The M8 actually has pretty decent battery life considering its size. Its not as good as the Z2 but thats to be expected, the Z2 has a huge battery. Mine was getting goofy which led me to doing a factory reset and that seemed to help. Im not sure about my screentime right now as Im using the Z2, for now.

To be honest if you ask my opinion here's my life story. My first android phone was an Xperia x10 only had issues with this piece of *beep* than went to HTC with the Incredible S never any problem only started to out date and had to replace a speaker once (easy to do) than bought a Xperia z1 crappy build quality spontaneously screen cracked out of the blue... Sound problems decided to get it fixed... Screen got fixed and speakers as well... One week later scratches were all over the screen (yes I don't use a protection for it, but never did on my HTC Inc S and that hasn't a single scratch on it.) And again speakers start to create noise...
Now I got a HTC m8 and I got to tell you never was happier with a phone. Good build quality and still no scratch without glass protection do have prot for the back though. I went to my carrier store earlier in this week and held the x2 in my hand just to see it... I smiled and was happy I didn't took that one. Pretty sure same problems will accure with the screen. Don't like the build quality at all from it
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So I had a z3 for a week z2 vs z3 differences. Almost none! Except for design

Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinner than the z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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ajftl said:
Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinker than three z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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Agree! Small update over Z2. With 4.4.4 Z2's battery performace will be as good as Z3.

And if Z2 gets good update to 4.4.4 (at it definitely will), differences will be even harder to see
But, as we said few times already - Z3 isn't here for Z2 users.
It's aiming to Z and Z1 users...

The fact that both devices are mirror images of themselves was known the day the specs of the z3 got confirmed.
Most of the differences are software based and that will narrow significantly once the z2 gets updated.
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Good thing I went with the Z2 three weeks ago, I saved 150 euro ?
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Jiyeon90 said:
Good thing I went with the Z2 three weeks ago, I saved 150 euro ?
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I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!

stanley08 said:
I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!
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What he was trying to say is that he prefers the z2 at €150 less. Makes perfect sense to me. Who wouldn't?
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zodiac100 said:
What he was trying to say is that he prefers the z2 at €150 less. Makes perfect sense to me. Who wouldn't?
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Yh. Is quite a margin i must confess. Tempting really. But here in West Africa, when a newer device comes the older one gets a HUGE price drop and resale value is almost nothing. Well. Speaking from my own point of view. I resell my devices. But anyways, i was never gonna upgrade to the Z3 anyways.. Even Z4 not sure, i want to see what M9 looks like. I think i prefer my devices stay a flagship for a whole year
P.S: You said 'He' but i think it's a lady. Lol.

stanley08 said:
Yh. Is quite a margin i must confess. Tempting really. But here in West Africa, when a newer device comes the older one gets a HUGE price drop and resale value is almost nothing. Well. Speaking from my own point of view. I resell my devices. But anyways, i was never gonna upgrade to the Z3 anyways.. Even Z4 not sure, i want to see what M9 looks like. I think i prefer my devices stay a flagship for a whole year
P.S: You said 'He' but i think it's a lady. Lol.
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I'll second that. I'm no fan of Sony's 6 month nonsense either. It's got me thinking of trying the s6 next year. Don't trust htc on the camera front. Their phones have never had good cameras and that's even before ultrapixels bull****
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zodiac100 said:
I'll second that. I'm no fan of Sony's 6 month nonsense either. It's got me thinking of trying the s6 next year. Don't trust htc on the camera front. Their phones have never had good cameras and that's even before ultrapixels bull****
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Lol. Exactly why I want to see what they have to offer really... But Z4 might be good tho. Oh well... Only time will tell

stanley08 said:
I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!
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Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
Quick Edit - I see by your signature that you have unlocked your bootloader. Have you seen any difference in the Camera or other DRM protected apps since you did it? Also, I take it you backed up your TA? Was it easy to do?

ianrobbie said:
Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
Quick Edit - I see by your signature that you have unlocked your bootloader. Have you seen any difference in the Camera or other DRM protected apps since you did it? Also, I take it you backed up your TA? Was it easy to do?
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Unlcoked bootloader, didn't backup TA. Camera is better than HTC M8, I'm not a photographer. So I'm living Happily ever after.

hehehe saved my pocket too! Will stay on Z2 until Z5 which most probably will be a copy of Z4

ianrobbie said:
Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
Quick Edit - I see by your signature that you have unlocked your bootloader. Have you seen any difference in the Camera or other DRM protected apps since you did it? Also, I take it you backed up your TA? Was it easy to do?
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There is definitely a difference in picture quality, especially in low light pictures. Backing up the Ta partition is easy though. You just need to root first. Can restore at any time.

I was scared to get the z2 in July not knowing what the z3/next version would be like. I'm glad to hear I didn't make a totally horrible decision.

Does it really give you 2 days battery life?

ajftl said:
Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinner than the z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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Hmm, i disagree. The differences are noticeable, but not enough to get envious of Z3 owners. Source: Wife has one and I set it up for her.
4.4.4 will address the differences in the software. Flashlight on quick settings, many more headphones listed in audio, etc
The screen is brighter and whiter, with precisely the same Nova settings on wife's z3 and my z2, hers is noticeably quicker and responsive - I'd say 10% quicker.
I have to say, I am jealous of the build quality - the covers on the side are recessed a little, so removing the phone from a pouch doesn't dislodge them occasionally.
Once 4.4.4 comes along, I'll be very happy. I bought some STH30 earphones and was disappointed that my z2 doesn't list them. Wife's z3 audio is much clearer than mine with the same headphones. Software no doubt, but she has the STH30 phones listed and it makes the difference somewhere.
The phones are different. In a lot of ways.

MichaelWT said:
Hmm, i disagree. The differences are noticeable, but not enough to get envious of Z3 owners. Source: Wife has one and I set it up for her.
4.4.4 will address the differences in the software. Flashlight on quick settings, many more headphones listed in audio, etc
The screen is brighter and whiter, with precisely the same Nova settings on wife's z3 and my z2, hers is noticeably quicker and responsive - I'd say 10% quicker.
I have to say, I am jealous of the build quality - the covers on the side are recessed a little, so removing the phone from a pouch doesn't dislodge them occasionally.
Once 4.4.4 comes along, I'll be very happy. I bought some STH30 earphones and was disappointed that my z2 doesn't list them. Wife's z3 audio is much clearer than mine with the same headphones. Software no doubt, but she has the STH30 phones listed and it makes the difference somewhere.
The phones are different. In a lot of ways.
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how about the battery performance? is it noticeably better on the z3?

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how about the battery performance? is it noticeably better on the z3?
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Z2 and Z3 battery is different too. We both always get 7hrs screen on time, but wife plays *a lot* of games.
Last time we both compared, I was impressed with my 8hrs screen on time (6% batt left) and she was 10% battery up and at 8hrs46 screen on time. Not sure what she did with it those 2 days uptime though, but gaming in there no doubt.
Hope we get the z3 battery algorithms in 4.4.4!

I can't get 8 hours screen on time because if my screen is on, I'm transmitting data. I use my phone only for phone calls or chatting (sending pictures, videos, taking pictures and sharing them, etc). I get about 5-6 hours of screen on time which is just FANTASTIC in my opinion! I'm on the Z2 by the way.

OnePlus one or Samsung Galaxy S5 or another phone?

Hello,
I want to buy a new phone for my self,the thing are importent to me is : camera and powerfull device (games,apps,all will run smooth and without any problems in the future),the last thing is a good quality,i mean:the phone i used so far was an iphone 5 which is a good quality phone made from Metalic thingy,oh and the last thing is the battery,i need a good battery also.
*if isn"t the right fourm please replace it*

Do some research and make the decision for yourself. These kinds of threads are pointless, all you're going to get is a bunch of conflicting opinions and then you'll be left to have the decision for yourself anyway.
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@ozal5 timmaaa is right!Read,read,read!And then make your decision!

ozal5 said:
Hello,
I want to buy a new phone for my self,the thing are importent to me is : camera and powerfull device (games,apps,all will run smooth and without any problems in the future),the last thing is a good quality,i mean:the phone i used so far was an iphone 5 which is a good quality phone made from Metalic thingy,oh and the last thing is the battery,i need a good battery also.
*if isn"t the right fourm please replace it*
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From reading reviews and feedback from users it would seem that the Oneplus One would meet your needs. I previously had the S4, moved to the HTC One M8 last month and have been considering the OPO. The M8 is a great phone with arguably the best design/build quality out there at the moment. Things which tempt me are the price, great value for money, the 64GB storage space. My M8 is 16GB which isnt great when you only have access to around 9GB, I have an sd card but you cant install apps directly to it. The fact it runs stock/custom stock android and is so easy to root/unlock/flash etc. The extra RAM and bigger battery are also advantages.
Check the below threads for further relevant discussions and have a search for anything more specific:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/buy-oneplus-one-t2912073
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/to-t2905794
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/buy-oneplus-one-t2912073

Thanks i'll check this out.
But the One is powerfull more then G3 or S5?

ozal5 said:
Thanks i'll check this out.
But the One is powerfull more then G3 or S5?
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In terms of processors they all run the Snapdragon 801 with the Adreno 330 GPU, so on paper are evenly matched, with the One also have 3GB of RAM along with the G3 (depending on model) whereas the S5 has 2GB. In the real life scenario you could say that the One has more resources to play with as its running a much leaner version of android (ie not skinned/minus bloat). The power of each device would probably be based on your own usage and expectations of 'power'. Theres plenty of videos on youtube showing side by side comparisons/benchmarks etc that are also worth a look.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/OnePlus-One,Samsung-Galaxy-S5,LG-G3/phones/8603,8202,8347
All run SD801, CPU wise not an issue. OPO has 3GB ram vs 2GB on the others (G3 depending what model you get) OPO & S5 run 1080p screens with the G3 housing a 2K screen etc etc. They are all evenly matched, name your price choose your device.

After using OPO for 2 months, the only 2 phones I see as it's replacement now are:
1) Samsung Galaxy Note 4. Better processor, better screen, better camera. Almost the same size. Forget about Galaxy S5 But Touchwiz.... Yuk! Hate it.
2) Sony Xperia Z3. Best camera on Android (only iPhone 6 camera is better), very good battery life. And good user inteface, better than Touchwiz.

So far i can see clearly that the OPO is better,is had the same proccesor and better battery it's look like i'll choose the OPO,because if the OPO better then the S5 isn't reason to pay more (only the IPS67 is a good reason but not enough).
Thanks alot ,
i asked in another fourm im my country and people told me to buy S5 but i trust this fourm more.

gsmyth said:
From reading reviews and feedback from users it would seem that the Oneplus One would meet your needs. I previously had the S4, moved to the HTC One M8 last month and have been considering the OPO. The M8 is a great phone with arguably the best design/build quality out there at the moment. Things which tempt me are the price, great value for money, the 64GB storage space. My M8 is 16GB which isnt great when you only have access to around 9GB, I have an sd card but you cant install apps directly to it. The fact it runs stock/custom stock android and is so easy to root/unlock/flash etc. The extra RAM and bigger battery are also advantages.
Check the below threads for further relevant discussions and have a search for anything more specific:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/buy-oneplus-one-t2912073
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/to-t2905794
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/buy-oneplus-one-t2912073
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The build quality on the M8 isn't that good, speaker grills loose and not aligned, volume button loose, htc letters falling off and it marks really easy although mine was unmarked but all my phones are the same.
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After using OPO for 2 months, the only 2 phones I see as it's replacement now are:
1) Samsung Galaxy Note 4. Better processor, better screen, better camera. Almost the same size. Forget about Galaxy S5 But Touchwiz.... Yuk! Hate it.
2) Sony Xperia Z3. Best camera on Android (only iPhone 6 camera is better), very good battery life. And good user inteface, better than Touchwiz.
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Iphone 6 camera better than Xperia Z2/3 lol

GTCC said:
Iphone 6 camera better than Xperia Z2/3 lol
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http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...peria-Z3-LG-G3-Galaxy-S5-Galaxy-Note-3_id3822
You have something to say? I haven't read ANY review where Xperia Z3 camera was concluded to be better than iPhone's camera. Or you're just Apple hater?

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http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...peria-Z3-LG-G3-Galaxy-S5-Galaxy-Note-3_id3822
You have something to say? I haven't read ANY review where Xperia Z3 camera was concluded to be better than iPhone's camera. Or you're just Apple hater?
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Funny, you say that the Z3 is the best android phone camera and then you link a video that shows that it's anything but the best android camera, so which is it?
The reason for my post quoting you was because you said that the iPhone 6 camera was better than the Z3 camera but that is like saying that a Mercedes F1 car is better than a McLaren F1 car, yes it is but it is not like it had a lot to be better than.
I wonder why they didn't have a Nokia in that comparison in that test.
Anyway thanks for the laugh.

GTCC said:
Funny, you say that the Z3 is the best android phone camera and then you link a video that shows that it's anything but the best android camera, so which is it?
The reason for my post quoting you was because you said that the iPhone 6 camera was better than the Z3 camera but that is like saying that a Mercedes F1 car is better than a McLaren F1 car, yes it is but it is not like it had a lot to be better than.
I wonder why they didn't have a Nokia in that comparison in that test.
Anyway thanks for the laugh.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Z2/Z3 camera. I owned Z2 for 2 months, and it's camera was superb! What I mean is - OPO's camera produces VERY mediocre photos. For example - this shot was taken on Z2 without any editing.
http://s010.radikal.ru/i312/1410/42/a43d189886f7.jpg
OPO's camera doesn't produce such good colours (at least on CM ROM, I haven't tried ColorOS). So it's kinda stupid to recommend someone OPO, if he needs good camera. Xperia Z2/Z3 suit his needs much better, and Z2 is quite cheap now, because it's not flagship anymore.

I'd probably get the note 4 if not for AT&T locking it down. Same with Verizon.
One plus is excellent though I'm quite happy with it.

I had the galaxy s5. I was hoping to put a gpe rom on it, but it never came out. I got really frustrated by touchwiz and the lag it caused. I really liked the camera and screen of the s5, but decided to give it to my sister and ordered the opo. I am still very happy with my choice. The only thing that I miss is the lte. Good luck making a decision.

ozal5 said:
So far i can see clearly that the OPO is better,is had the same proccesor and better battery it's look like i'll choose the OPO,because if the OPO better then the S5 isn't reason to pay more (only the IPS67 is a good reason but not enough).
Thanks alot ,
i asked in another fourm im my country and people told me to buy S5 but i trust this fourm more.
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The OPO is cheaper and has more RAM, thats it. Oh and tons of bugs and a yellow band at the bottom of the display and no customer service.
If you have the money, get anything else.

One M9+ Supreme Camera

Hi All,
I decided to take the plunge and buy the Supreme Camera edition of the handset, just to see if there is any dramatic improvement in camera quality, from the original M9, which I eventually returned for build quality issues!
Took delivery about an hour ago and first thing I noticed is that the build quality on this handset is considerably better than the original M9 that I had on launch. Tight gaps and flush screen, so very pleased. Over the weekend I will give the camera a proper test, to really see if they have made any dramatic improvements.
First up though, and an embarrassing question to ask, but UK English is not an option for the language pack on this handset. How do I download extensions for this, so that I can select UK English for the phone language? I thought it would be obvious, but I cannot find a way to do it?!
Thanks

please let us knowabout your findings!

So the weekend is over. ...can you or would you post your review or opinions about the camera ?
I really want to upgrade from my M7 ....has it since May 15 .....still kicking .
Please do answer . Thank you .

Still waiting !

I wonder if we can s-off this one and get roms from M9+ to work on it, the problem with non-flagship HTC phones is that they have nearly zero custom roms

Your language pack issue?
I have the M9+ and isn't it quite easy to change language? Lol
Settings->Language & Keyboard->Language
And voila, you can change the language of your phone. At least that's what I did. Tell me if it works for you.

Hi I've done it on mine bought it from Hong kong.
You can s-off with sunshine tool.

phone cases for the M9+ and M9+ supreme camera the same?

Glen L said:
phone cases for the M9+ and M9+ supreme camera the same?
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for sure.exactly the same one.

can someone confirm if it comes with Google Play store?

Glen L said:
can someone confirm if it comes with Google Play store?
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Yes, it has got the play store.

Can i install this camera on any phone.

I will buy the M9+ SC only if it gets custom roms. This phone is a perfected M9 but htc is not promoting it at all
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Dont waste your money on it
"One M9+ Supreme Camera Edition allows you to capture your best photos in all situation with built-in 2nd generation OIS and industry-leading focusing technology (Laser AF & PDAF)"
This how HTC describes the M9+ Supreme Camera on their website, and I was stupid enough to believe it, so I went ahead yesterday and made the worst decision ever, trade a Note 5 for this piece of [email protected] Focusing on this thing is almost impossible, colors are always off, the camera app becomes so sluggish with the slightest shake. I lost hope in catching a good shot of my 3 years old daughter.
Add to that a below than average battery life that takes more than 2 hours to fully charge. Then comes the processor, that cant even handle the slightest games like Yahtzee Online and Domino!. I had to go into Developers mode, then turn on the High Performance Mode, which made things a bit better yet affected the already bad battery life. And dont try to watch a YouTube clip at 720p+ reslution, it will empty the battery and shut down before you are done from the phone.
Now I have to live with atleast $150 loss or else I would end up banging both my head and the phone till they crack open.

Oh !
Is it so !
So sad.... I thought it is the perfected version of M9 .
This has started a new thought ...should I now invest a fortune in coming HTC One M10 or go for SGS or Note series phones....
Thanks for your sharing.

Well... it depends on the point of view... I was using HTC phones since Kaiser (TyTN II) and now I have M9+ (not the Supreme Cam model)... I can do good pictures with it, good enough for a phone cause otherwise I'd use Nicon 5300 cam
And I do not really understand people swearing on the battery life... I am using the phone as handy office, calling, sending SMSs and Emails, even playing Fallout Shelter from time to time when I am bored, GPS, Internet... WiFi and Bluetooth connected almost all the time... All I need... Yet I normaly end up with 60-70% at the evennig and I do not bother to recharge during the weekend when I do not use the phone too much...
I even tried Asphalt 4 and it was running with no hiccup...
Damn... what's wrong with you people?
P.S.: I think I would never go for something else, not Samsung in particular, because I am totally happy with M9+...

That's very perplexing .
I have HTC One M7 Dev Ed...with a new camera .... and it captures great photos. Outperforms many of today's so called big shots in terms of looks,sound clarity,screen res , software support ...it can go on and on.
I am also a loyal HTC customer....have owned xda II, xdaIIi, Universal ,HD,HD2....
I am also not comfortable with other Samsung like phones...have used Note2 ....hated it....but...
Let's see what HTC delivers ...fingers crossed.

Sold
I wish I was exaggerating, because I loved the screen, speakers, and mkst importantly the fantastic design and build quality.
The battery got better on the 3rd day, I guess it was calibrating, maybe?
But the bad performance stucked with it, and every time I wanted to play these basic games, I had to switch on the max performance mode, which affected the battery life greatly.
After losing my temper and faith in this phone, I ended up trading it for the A9 32gb, and I am loving it. It might not be better than my old Note 5 or S6 Edge, at least on paper, but I definitely feel like it is the best phone I ve ever had, although I wish HTC gave us a louder speaker sincs this one is so freaken weak.
Battery life is brilliant, averaging more than 5 hrs of sot, and using Samsung's fast charger gets it from 0 to 100% in around 80 minutes max. Performance is amazing, and the camera while not the best, is still very reliable.

Maher.k22 said:
I wish I was exaggerating, because I loved the screen, speakers, and mkst importantly the fantastic design and build quality.
The battery got better on the 3rd day, I guess it was calibrating, maybe?
But the bad performance stucked with it, and every time I wanted to play these basic games, I had to switch on the max performance mode, which affected the battery life greatly.
After losing my temper and faith in this phone, I ended up trading it for the A9 32gb, and I am loving it. It might not be better than my old Note 5 or S6 Edge, at least on paper, but I definitely feel like it is the best phone I ve ever had, although I wish HTC gave us a louder speaker sincs this one is so freaken weak.
Battery life is brilliant, averaging more than 5 hrs of sot, and using Samsung's fast charger gets it from 0 to 100% in around 80 minutes max. Performance is amazing, and the camera while not the best, is still very reliable.
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You must have known before purchasing man, M9+ have low-mid cpu-gpu, that's not its highlight. You can find those components on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2/Meizu MX5 and this is saying all.

SIRKRA said:
You must have known before purchasing man, M9+ have low-mid cpu-gpu, that's not its highlight. You can find those components on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2/Meizu MX5 and this is saying all.
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I am not a heavy gamer, that's why I took the risk. But I never knew it won't handle basic games. All in all, I am glad it all went this way and ended up with the A9, because I am loving it.