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[Q] Hello * I might have Bricked my phone ?

I just picked up a note 3...
Now being somewhat New to roms and stuff...
I have been following * GALAXY NOTE 3 ROOT * guy on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQbTF7yTJSk <---------------------
I wanted to install a custom rom called Hyperdrive... I am very good at following instructions.
I rooted my phone correctly and now get the Unlock Icon .
I installed The hyperdrive.apk.zip to my Sdcard on the phone...
I installed Safestrap.. Backed up my stock rom
I watched the videos and did every step I was told to and it all worked perfectly.
But this is where I had the issue...after creating a Custom rom slot-1
I clicked install, selected the new Kitkat Hyperdirve zip on there site.
Installed took about 2 mins. Backed out of Safestrap correctly after it said installed complete.
reboot/system ...
Phone reboots .. Shows Samsung galaxie unlock root screen .. then just gos to a black screen of death.
cant tell if the phone is on or not.. have to pull the battery and restart in Up arrow ... middle button and power mode to get back in to stock system recovery...
Can someone please help me get this rom working on my system.. I just wanted to get rid of bloat ware and speed up my phone and customize it to my everyday needs .
my phone is a verizon note 3 Updated with 4.4.2 stock
I only want this rom installed to play it safe.. and please dont try to sell me a different rom or set up thanks guys n gals !
* love the note 3 by the way *
Jayson
Usa,Ca
Update * I was able to wipe Hydrive off the phone and reload stock rom.. back on track but What are my options to installing hyperdrive or a replica rom like it ? Useing Safestrap only

I-ron-ic-HTC said:
I just picked up a note 3...
Now being somewhat New to roms and stuff...
I have been following * GALAXY NOTE 3 ROOT * guy on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQbTF7yTJSk <---------------------
I wanted to install a custom rom called Hyperdrive... I am very good at following instructions.
I rooted my phone correctly and now get the Unlock Icon .
I installed The hyperdrive.apk.zip to my Sdcard on the phone...
I installed Safestrap.. Backed up my stock rom
I watched the videos and did every step I was told to and it all worked perfectly.
But this is where I had the issue...after creating a Custom rom slot-1
I clicked install, selected the new Kitkat Hyperdirve zip on there site.
Installed took about 2 mins. Backed out of Safestrap correctly after it said installed complete.
reboot/system ...
Phone reboots .. Shows Samsung galaxie unlock root screen .. then just gos to a black screen of death.
cant tell if the phone is on or not.. have to pull the battery and restart in Up arrow ... middle button and power mode to get back in to stock system recovery...
Can someone please help me get this rom working on my system.. I just wanted to get rid of bloat ware and speed up my phone and customize it to my everyday needs .
my phone is a verizon note 3 Updated with 4.4.2 stock
I only want this rom installed to play it safe.. and please dont try to sell me a different rom or set up thanks guys n gals !
* love the note 3 by the way *
Jayson
Usa,Ca
Update * I was able to wipe Hydrive off the phone and reload stock rom.. back on track but What are my options to installing hyperdrive or a replica rom like it ? Useing Safestrap only
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In order to run a 4.4 rom you need to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin. The files and instructions can be found here. Just substitute the Hyperdrive rom or whatever 4.4 based rom you've chosen in the corresponding steps in the instructions. Also you only need to do this once unless you reset the device via Odin, the kernel will stick so flashing a different rom won't be as complicated.
Also it is recommended to use only the Stock slot in Safestrap because of battery/data drain issues. Just make sure to wipe before installing so everything installs correctly.

kinstre11 said:
In order to run a 4.4 rom you need to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin. The files and instructions can be found here. Just substitute the Hyperdrive rom or whatever 4.4 based rom you've chosen in the corresponding steps in the instructions. Also you only need to do this once unless you reset the device via Odin, the kernel will stick so flashing a different rom won't be as complicated.
Also it is recommended to use only the Stock slot in Safestrap because of battery/data drain issues. Just make sure to wipe before installing so everything installs correctly.
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I dont understand a certain part .. this is the instructions
Coming From Stock NC4 OTA <----- whats OTA ?
Step- 1 - Root Device with TowelRoot Here ------------------------- Done.....
Step- 2 - Install Busybox from play store and install busybox itself ------------------------------Done...........
Step- 3 - Install Hashcodes Latest Safestrap Here -------------------------- Done....................
Step- 4 - Boot into Safestrap Select Stock Slot ------------------------- Done.................
Step- 5 - Wipe Data Factory Reset The Stock Slot -------------------------- Not done afraid I wont be able to get stock rom back even after i backed it up
Step- 6 - Flash nc4 deodex rom to the stock slot ------------------ this part i dont understand but assuming i use the hyperdrive rom installed to the stock slot correct.?
Step- 7 - Reboot into Download mode From Safestrap ------------------------ I can do that
Step- 8 - Flash NC2 Kernel Package Here --------------------- again dont know how to flash i have odin installed and open on my destop and i have the nc2kenal file in the pda slot on odin ... I dont know the next steps to flash.. do i leave the phone on turn it off.. ??? stepts to flash ?
Stock deodex ??? what is that i was hoping to use the hyperdrive rom ? and do i install the hyperdrive rom into the stock slot ? after all this is over with ?
Step- 9 - You will Boot into a Stock Deodex rom with Root, Busybox, Init.d, Selinux Permissive, Insecure Modules!!
please be very detailed this means allot to me.. and I can finally break free :good:

I-ron-ic-HTC said:
I dont understand a certain part .. this is the instructions
Coming From Stock NC4 OTA <----- whats OTA ?
Step- 1 - Root Device with TowelRoot Here ------------------------- Done.....
Step- 2 - Install Busybox from play store and install busybox itself ------------------------------Done...........
Step- 3 - Install Hashcodes Latest Safestrap Here -------------------------- Done....................
Step- 4 - Boot into Safestrap Select Stock Slot ------------------------- Done.................
Step- 5 - Wipe Data Factory Reset The Stock Slot -------------------------- Not done afraid I wont be able to get stock rom back even after i backed it up
Step- 6 - Flash nc4 deodex rom to the stock slot ------------------ this part i dont understand the phone is already in nc4 and how do i flash to a specific slot ?!
Step- 7 - Reboot into Download mode From Safestrap ------------------------ I can do that
Step- 8 - Flash NC2 Kernel Package Here --------------------- again dont know how to flash i have odin installed and open on my destop and i have the nc2kenal file in the pda slot on odin ... I dont know the next steps to flash.. do i leave the phone on turn it off.. ???
Stock deodex ??? what is that i was hoping to use the hyperdrive rom ? and do i install the hyperdrive rom into the stock slot ? after all this is over with ?
Step- 9 - You will Boot into a Stock Deodex rom with Root, Busybox, Init.d, Selinux Permissive, Insecure Modules!!
please be very detailed this means allot to me.. and I can finally break free :good:
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Just follow the steps I sent you in the pm. No need to use the stock deodex rom.
Most custom roms will be deodex, all this means is that an app is one part. Normal an odex rom an app will be two parts, and located in two separate locations in memory, it helps which load times under certain demands but hinders customization.
As for the stock slot it is okay to wipe, and if you made a backup you can wipe and restore it. If you didn't make a backup you can always download a stock rom. Just try to think of your original stock rom is exactly that, A Rom, nothing more nothing less.

kinstre11 said:
Just follow the steps I sent you in the pm. No need to use the stock deodex rom.
Most custom roms will be deodex, all this means is that an app is one part. Normal an odex rom an app will be two parts, and located in two separate locations in memory, it helps which load times under certain demands but hinders customization.
As for the stock slot it is okay to wipe, and if you made a backup you can wipe and restore it. If you didn't make a backup you can always download a stock rom. Just try to think of your original stock rom is exactly that, A Rom, nothing more nothing less.
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Thanks hyperdrive is amazing fast and simple +1

I-ron-ic-HTC said:
Thanks hyperdrive is amazing fast and simple +1
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My pleasure man, glad I could help out.

same issue, but got worse
kinstre11 said:
My pleasure man, glad I could help out.
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I think I missed the juice of the fix but can you help me? I had the same issue as him, but ran what I thought would fix it but I just see the boot screen continousely since doing ODIN N900v_NC2_FW_Updated.tar.md5
Since doing this, I lost my safestrap and just see those colored balls loading as it looks like a bootloop

parag2k said:
I think I missed the juice of the fix but can you help me? I had the same issue as him, but ran what I thought would fix it but I just see the boot screen continousely since doing ODIN N900v_NC2_FW_Updated.tar.md5
Since doing this, I lost my safestrap and just see those colored balls loading as it looks like a bootloop
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If you've lost Safestrap you will need to reset your device via Odin and start over. Pulling the battery will get you oit of the bootloop, then boot into download mode (volume down + home + power button).
On your computer you need to open Odin and then connect your phone to your computer. Load the stock tar file found here in the AP slot. Give Odin a couple minutes to load the process and once the Start button is available click it and let Odin run. It will restart your device when it is finished. Just a heads up, if you are currently on NC4 you must use that firmware you can not go backwards.
From this point you will need to reroot, install busybox and Safestrap again. From there follow the instructions found here to get on the NC2 kernel.
If you followed all these steps correctly you can now flash any 4.4 based rom for the retail Note 3.

it works!
kinstre11 said:
If you've lost Safestrap you will need to reset your device via Odin and start over. Pulling the battery will get you oit of the bootloop, then boot into download mode (volume down + home + power button).
On your computer you need to open Odin and then connect your phone to your computer. Load the stock tar file found here in the AP slot. Give Odin a couple minutes to load the process and once the Start button is available click it and let Odin run. It will restart your device when it is finished. Just a heads up, if you are currently on NC4 you must use that firmware you can not go backwards.
From this point you will need to reroot, install busybox and Safestrap again. From there follow the instructions found here to get on the NC2 kernel.
If you followed all these steps correctly you can now flash any 4.4 based rom for the retail Note 3.
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Thanks! Got it working w/ your tips... did have to start from scratch which wound up being a good thing in getting to the rom I wanted - Jasmine ROM. Much thanks again

parag2k said:
Thanks! Got it working w/ your tips... did have to start from scratch which wound up being a good thing in getting to the rom I wanted - Jasmine ROM. Much thanks again
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Enjoy.

Bootloop on hyperdrive rom, please help

I need help. lol. my Samsung note 3 is stuck in bootloop. I posted this in the thread for the hyperdrive rom because its what I was trying to flash.
i wiped and flashed in the stock slot. and now im stuck in the bootloop problem. it says recovery booting in the upper left of the screen and just keeps rebooting. I tried going in to odin and reloading the "n900v kk firmware" and nothing. anyone know a fix for this. is there something I can download to flash to fix this. I know I will have to use odin, just not sure what.

donelam304 said:
I need help. lol. my Samsung note 3 is stuck in bootloop. I posted this in the thread for the hyperdrive rom because its what I was trying to flash.
i wiped and flashed in the stock slot. and now im stuck in the bootloop problem. it says recovery booting in the upper left of the screen and just keeps rebooting. I tried going in to odin and reloading the "n900v kk firmware" and nothing. anyone know a fix for this. is there something I can download to flash to fix this. I know I will have to use odin, just not sure what.
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Hi I'm kinda new to the community and Android, but I'll try to help. I've been having issues trying to use safestrap to install my custom roms. I know that 3.72 had issues with the extra slots. That was supposed to be fixed in 3.75. In short I haven't reached a loop but have had to flash to stock several times with Odin. I had to remove my battery to get the phone in "power off" mode. From there, I booted to download for odin (assuming you can get it to boot to download-volume down/home/power buttons to get there).
Once I got there, I just made sure I had the firmware version I wanted to go back to, plugged it into odin and bam! Back to stock to start over.

Bryotch said:
Hi I'm kinda new to the community and Android, but I'll try to help. I've been having issues trying to use safestrap to install my custom roms. I know that 3.72 had issues with the extra slots. That was supposed to be fixed in 3.75. In short I haven't reached a loop but have had to flash to stock several times with Odin. I had to remove my battery to get the phone in "power off" mode. From there, I booted to download for odin (assuming you can get it to boot to download-volume down/home/power buttons to get there).
Once I got there, I just made sure I had the firmware version I wanted to go back to, plugged it into odin and bam! Back to stock to start over.
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I can boot in to the download mode. has no problem. even tried flashing the n900v_kk_firmware.tar.md5 tar,
ALL_N900VVRUBMJE_N900VVZWMJE_2106277_REV03_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5
and even tried the N900VVRUCNC4_N900VVZWCNC4_N900VVRUCNC4_HOME.tar.md5
and when I do the MJE one it says invalid. am I flashing the wrong file is there something else I should be using. when I get in to manual mode after it boots in to manual recovery mode it says im on NC4. it says in the upper left corner the following:
Android stem recovery <3e>
KOT49H.N900VVRUCNC
volume up/down to move highlight;
power button to select.
reboot system now
apply update from ADB
apply update from external storage
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
apply update from cache
is there a way to flash safestrap or CWM in odin.

donelam304 said:
I can boot in to the download mode. has no problem. even tried flashing the n900v_kk_firmware.tar.md5 tar,
ALL_N900VVRUBMJE_N900VVZWMJE_2106277_REV03_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5
and even tried the N900VVRUCNC4_N900VVZWCNC4_N900VVRUCNC4_HOME.tar.md5
and when I do the MJE one it says invalid. am I flashing the wrong file is there something else I should be using. when I get in to manual mode after it boots in to manual recovery mode it says im on NC4. it says in the upper left corner the following:
Android stem recovery <3e>
KOT49H.N900VVRUCNC
volume up/down to move highlight;
power button to select.
reboot system now
apply update from ADB
apply update from external storage
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
apply update from cache
is there a way to flash safestrap or CWM in odin.
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You're running the same build I have, been having similar issues. I used Odin no completely repartition and wipe the phone. I used N900VVRUCNC4_N900VVZWCNC4_N900VVRUCNC4_HOME.tar.md5 and the HLTE.pit file (for this build). In Odin You put the pit and md5 files in (.pit file in the PIT slot and md5 in the AP slot on Odin 3.09) This took me back to the KK NC4 build, granted, I lost alot of data but I didn't use a Nandroid backup either. This got me back to a functional device but i'm still having issues getting ANY custom roms to work. I did flash to NC2 kernel since then and still no luck. Let me know if that helps. I can get the files I used if you can't find them, but most everything came from xda.
PS. you can find some firmwares with recovery and other things added. I avoided these just to make sure I could get back to stock. I use Towelroot, BusyBox, SuperSU, and Safestrap 3.75 b04

Bryotch said:
You're running the same build I have, been having similar issues. I used Odin no completely repartition and wipe the phone. I used N900VVRUCNC4_N900VVZWCNC4_N900VVRUCNC4_HOME.tar.md5 and the HLTE.pit file (for this build). In Odin You put the pit and md5 files in (.pit file in the PIT slot and md5 in the AP slot on Odin 3.09) This took me back to the KK NC4 build, granted, I lost alot of data but I didn't use a Nandroid backup either. This got me back to a functional device but i'm still having issues getting ANY custom roms to work. I did flash to NC2 kernel since then and still no luck. Let me know if that helps. I can get the files I used if you can't find them, but most everything came from xda.
PS. you can find some firmwares with recovery and other things added. I avoided these just to make sure I could get back to stock. I use Towelroot, BusyBox, SuperSU, and Safestrap 3.75 b04
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i done a search on the stock firmware you mentioned and after about 2 dozen websites and and trying about 15 flashes I finally got it to work. this has been one heck of a day. I finally got it to work. I am in the process of trying to get safestrap and stuff on it now. I already used towelroot to rot it. what version of safestrap do you recommend. I was told 3.72 was for KK. and 3.75 was for the Samsung galaxy S5.

donelam304 said:
i done a search on the stock firmware you mentioned and after about 2 dozen websites and and trying about 15 flashes I finally got it to work. this has been one heck of a day. I finally got it to work. I am in the process of trying to get safestrap and stuff on it now. I already used towelroot to rot it. what version of safestrap do you recommend. I was told 3.72 was for KK. and 3.75 was for the Samsung galaxy S5.
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here is the link I found with all the carriers for the note 3
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-repair/how-to-unroot-galaxy-note-3/

donelam304 said:
here is the link I found with all the carriers for the note 3
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-repair/how-to-unroot-galaxy-note-3/
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thanks so much by the way. I greatly appreciate the assistance.

[Q] Just got a new S5... and it has OA8 preinstalled on it. And its not rooted.

Hi all,
Just got my fiance A Verizon S5... and it came with OA8. Unrooted. I've been on T-mobile since the G1 and have had pretty much every android phone with custom roms since then.
Just a quick question, what would be the fastest method to get this thing rooted? Should I downgrade, and if so to what verizon, root it, then use the keep root methods? I dont think I can find a way to Root OA8 directly, and I'm not sure WHAT version to downgrade to, to get root with, then to keep root on the Oa8.
Any Suggestions?

Kaczman said:
Hi all,
Just got my fiance A Verizon S5... and it came with OA8. Unrooted. I've been on T-mobile since the G1 and have had pretty much every android phone with custom roms since then.
Just a quick question, what would be the fastest method to get this thing rooted? Should I downgrade, and if so to what verizon, root it, then use the keep root methods? I dont think I can find a way to Root OA8 directly, and I'm not sure WHAT version to downgrade to, to get root with, then to keep root on the Oa8.
Any Suggestions?
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Flash the NK2 retail tar from here to downgrade (using Odin included in this same thread's root zip). You'll load the file in the AP slot of Odin, press Power+Home+Volume Down while starting your phone. Press Start.
Then just follow the instructions to root.

Just follow the guide linked below.....except since you are on Lollipop, Load the NK2 Stock ROM in AP slot, flash it, and boot up normal before moving onto Step #3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53447942&postcount=1

Stupifier said:
Just follow the guide linked below.....except since you are on Lollipop, Load the NK2 Stock ROM in AP slot, flash it, and boot up normal before moving onto Step #3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53447942&postcount=1
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Oh... forgot that after the NK2, you'll have to boot back into download mode on your phone and flash the NCG kernel only (included in the package), since safestrap doesn't work with NK2's kernel.

Hmm... any step by step?

Kaczman said:
Hmm... any step by step?
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Coming from Stock (UNROOTED) OA8:
Check here for downloads: [SOFTWARE GUIDE]***Odin Back To Stock***[Root Files] Retail Verizon S5 Firmware Files
1-Download ROM.zip, TowelRoot.apk and Safestrap.apk and put it on an External Storage
2-Put phone in download mode by holding volume_down + power + home_key
3-Put NK2 Full Stock TAR [G900VVRU1ANK2_G900VVZW1ANK2_G900VVRU1ANK2_HOME.tar] in AP Slot in ODIN and flash it
4-Put phone in download mode holding volume_down + power + home_key
5-Once phone boots into stock NK2, go back to download mode, put NCG Kernel [NCG Kernel Only] in AP Slot in ODIN and press Start
6-Once it boots, install and run TowelRoot.apk [Towelroot] and make it rain! Then install Busybox (I use Busybox Installer) from the play store and then install Safestrap.apk [Safestrap Recovery v3.75] and once installed open it and Install Recovery. Some have had to repeat the Busybox and SU install before it will ask to update SU and disable knox.
7-At this point you should be able to boot into SS Recovery and make a backup and do an advanced wipe of everything but your SD card
8-Flash ROM.zip of your choice to stock slot, press HOME and if you are using an Android 5 ROM REBOOT and select DOWNLOAD MODE
9-If it is a rom later than NK2, flash the appropriate Kernel for your device and Android version in AP Slot (PDA) in ODIN (AGAIN, DEODEX VERSION WILL TAKE UPWARDS OF 10-30 MINUTES ON FIRST BOOT ONLY)
For Android 5 ROMS, although Safestrap is still installed, you will have to flash NK2 kernel, do what you need to in SS and reboot to download mode, flash the Android 5 kernel and reboot the system.

i find the fasted method of rooting any device to be:
1) go to the general section
2) look at the stickies
3) click the one that says ROOT

I need help with installing the Alliance ROM PLEASE.

EDIT: I have successfully installed the Alliance ROM. Here's how i did it.
Prerequisites:
Your phone at at least 50% battery
A charge cable
MicroSD card that you can plug into your computer
Odin 3.09
SafeStrap, version 3.75 APK on your MicroSD card
Alliance ROM on your MicroSD card
NCG tar.md5 (the big file, not the kernel)
I started off on a rooted 5.0 VZW Galaxy S5. After some confusion, I downgraded to NCG (4.4.2) using Odin. After doing that, I went to Towelroot, got the APK, rooted, downloaded SuperSU from the play store (I had to sign into google at this point), installed it's binaries (NORMALLY! Don't choose the TWRP method), rebooted when it asked me to. From there, I installed BusyBox from the play store and installed it within the app. Then I installed Safestrap (version 3.75), which I had on my MicroSD card. I used the app My Files to navigate to my MicroSD and installed the APK. Then I installed it within the app, and when the "reboot to recovery" button worked, I rebooted into SafeStrap recovery mode. At this point, the Alliance ROM zip file should ALREADY BE ON YOUR MICROSD CARD, WHICH SHOULD BE IN YOUR PHONE. Now, you're going to press the INSTALL button to the top right in Safestrap recovery, and you're going to navigate to your MicroSD card. It might be already opened to that. Then you're gonna select the Alliance ROM and flash it. After it successfully flashes, reboot into download mode (if for some reason you aren't able to do it immediately, you get into download mode by holding volume down, home button, and power button at the same time). Now, using Odin, you're gonna flash the firmware that the instructions in the Alliance thread tells you to (here's the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver.../rom-alliancerom-build-3-rom-control-t2818632). If everything works, it's gonna take a couple of minutes, optimize apps, and boot.
Huge thanks to Beans and his team for creating the Alliance mod, and huge thanks to Tulsadiver for helping me get through the process during my confusion.
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Hi. I'll cut to the chase. I was an idiot and thought I could just flash the Alliance ROM from my SD card, but my phone is currently a factory restored 5.0. So, after unsuccessfully flashing Alliance ROM, I thought, well, I probably need to be on 4.4.2 to do this. So, what I'm wondering is, do I need to go back down to 4.4.2 to install Alliance ROM? And do I need Safestrap recovery to do it, or can I do it from stock recovery (home button+volUp+Power)? I did a lot of digging in the Alliance ROM post and there were no posts regarding my problem/question, probably because they're all experienced and I'm not (this is my first time trying to flash a custom ROM).
It SOUNDS like I need to flash a full stock tar using Odin, is that correct? Once I do that, I would be on stock wiped 4.4.2, I assume. From there, could I flash the Alliance ROM and continue with the instructions? Or do I need to root first and get safestrap and all that crap? I feel like Beans was really vague with his instructions on installing ROMs, but whatever. Please help though, I'm kind of stuck in the middle of this with a softbricked phone.
Thank you so much in advance, I appreciate it.
~isra
EDIT: Also, I was on ROOTED 5.0 Lollipop just before this. I just got so sick of lollipop, I was ready for something different. So here we are. To confirm, my phone is the standard retail SM-G900VZW model.
EDIT2: Apparently App Ops and SuperSU survived the wipe and, after downloading Root Checker, I can confirm that I'm still rooted... Huh.

israphial said:
Hi. I'll cut to the chase. I was an idiot and thought I could just flash the Alliance ROM from my SD card, but my phone is currently a factory restored 5.0. So, after unsuccessfully flashing Alliance ROM, I thought, well, I probably need to be on 4.4.2 to do this. So, what I'm wondering is, do I need to go back down to 4.4.2 to install Alliance ROM? And do I need Safestrap recovery to do it, or can I do it from stock recovery (home button+volUp+Power)? I did a lot of digging in the Alliance ROM post and there were no posts regarding my problem/question, probably because they're all experienced and I'm not (this is my first time trying to flash a custom ROM).
It SOUNDS like I need to flash a full stock tar using Odin, is that correct? Once I do that, I would be on stock wiped 4.4.2, I assume. From there, could I flash the Alliance ROM and continue with the instructions? Or do I need to root first and get safestrap and all that crap? I feel like Beans was really vague with his instructions on installing ROMs, but whatever. Please help though, I'm kind of stuck in the middle of this with a softbricked phone.
Thank you so much in advance, I appreciate it.
~isra
EDIT: Also, I was on ROOTED 5.0 Lollipop just before this. I just got so sick of lollipop, I was ready for something different. So here we are. To confirm, my phone is the standard retail SM-G900VZW model.
EDIT2: Apparently App Ops and SuperSU survived the wipe and, after downloading Root Checker, I can confirm that I'm still rooted... Huh.
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Download busybox from play store. Install it. Install safestrap. Once recovery is installed, go into recovery, install alliance, from within safestrap, boot into download mode and flash the full firmware Odin tar.

Tulsadiver said:
Download busybox from play store. Install it. Install safestrap. Once recovery is installed, go into recovery, install alliance, from within safestrap, boot into download mode and flash the full firmware Odin tar.
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Wait, so I don't need to downgrade my phone? Keep in mind I'm on stock rooted 5.0, which just got factory reset so I got nothing except for the root. Also, what full firmware odin tar are you referring to? NE9? This one: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23610159112652201
Or this one: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23622183712472727
I'm getting these links from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ment/stock-collection-kernels-modems-t2842069
I really appreciate you replying. Thank you.

The first one. That firmware will downgrade you to NE9.

Tulsadiver said:
The first one. That firmware will downgrade you to NE9.
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Ok, so I don't need to downgrade to install the ROM. Got it. Thank you. Is there anything else I should know?

Not that I know of. ROM installations are different so always refer to their installation instructions. Some will say to flash the firmware first. The op knows best. Alliance NE9 says to do a full wipe (everything but SD card). Install the ROM, reboot to download mode ( don't hit reboot system). Once in download mode, flash the firmware tar and let your phone reboot.

Tulsadiver said:
Not that I know of. ROM installations are different so always refer to their installation instructions. Some will say to flash the firmware first. The op knows best. Alliance NE9 says to do a full wipe (everything but SD card). Install the ROM, reboot to download mode ( don't hit reboot system). Once in download mode, flash the firmware tar and let your phone reboot.
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So, I installed Safestrap and did all that, but when I press the reboot into recovery button, it just reboots the phone normally. It doesn't go into safestrap recovery. Am I supposed to hold some buttons or something?

Did safestrap ask for SuperSU permissions? Did you install busy box? You can't just download the app.

Tulsadiver said:
Did safestrap ask for SuperSU permissions? Did you install busy box? You can't just download the app.
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Yes, I've installed BusyBox and given SS root permissions. I installed the APK 3.75 Safestrap that I used to get into SS recovery when I was getting to rooted 5.0 a while back, so I know that the APK isn't corrupt or anything like that.

I forgot. You are on lollipop. You need to flash the NE9 kernel first ( via Odin). You already have safestrap but it doesn't work on lollipop. After you flash the NE9 kernel you will have the option to boot into recovery. Have alliance on your SD card ready to install.

Tulsadiver said:
I forgot. You are on lollipop. You need to flash the NE9 kernel first ( via Odin). You already have safestrap but it doesn't work on lollipop. After you flash the NE9 kernel you will have the option to boot into recovery. Have alliance on your SD card ready to install.
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Found a "NE9 Stock tar.md5". Does that sound right? DL is here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567721275

Found a "NE9 Stock tar.md5". Does that sound right? DL is here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567721275

israphial said:
Found a "NE9 Stock tar.md5". Does that sound right? DL is here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567721275
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That is it.

Tulsadiver said:
That is it.
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Thank you. I'm going to flash the kernel then, then I'll get back to you if anything comes up. Again, I really appreciate you helping me. Thank you.

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That is it.
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It booted into stock recovery mode after odin successfully flashed NE9. Now do I install the ROM from stock recovery, or do I boot the phone and get to Safestrap to install the ROM from Safestrap recovery? I am currently in recovery mode.

You must not have had safestrap on your phone after all. Can you get back to download mode? You probably need to flash your lollipop kernel to get back to lollipop.

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You must not have had safestrap on your phone after all. Can you get back to download mode? You probably need to flash your lollipop kernel to get back to lollipop.
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I definitely had safestrap. Though, here's something: Everyone talks about a menu that pops up during boot that allows you to enter either safestrap recovery, or boot, and I've never had/seen that menu, even when I was rooting 5.0. Yes, my BusyBox worked and was properly installed, and yes, I had Safestrap recovery installed.
I just tried rebooting and it after sitting at the first screen for a while, it rebooted quickly and went back into recovery mode. What if I try installing Alliance from recovery mode? Will it work?

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I definitely had safestrap. Though, here's something: Everyone talks about a menu that pops up during boot that allows you to enter either safestrap recovery, or boot, and I've never had/seen that menu, even when I was rooting 5.0. Yes, my BusyBox worked and was properly installed, and yes, I had Safestrap recovery installed.
I just tried rebooting and it after sitting at the first screen for a while, it rebooted quickly and went back into recovery mode. What if I try installing Alliance from recovery mode? Will it work?
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I've never been on stock recovery before. I think it has to be a custom recovery. You might need to pull your battery and let it set for a bit and see if you can get into download mode.

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I've never been on stock recovery before. I think it has to be a custom recovery. You might need to pull your battery and let it set for a bit and see if you can get into download mode.
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I can get into download mode perfectly fine. I'm going to kernel back to 5.0 then...
But what do I do now? Should I downgrade to 4.4.2 with the stock firmware once I successfully boot 5.0?
EDIT: Yup, booted 5.0 perfectly fine. Now what? Downgrade to 4.4.2 and flash the NE9 Kernel?

Proof that Safestrap is on my phone:
http://imgur.com/cGa1v1n

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Rooting Tools For Lollipop​Edit: I reuploaded the Rooting_Tools_For_S5_Lollipop.zip as the md5 was not right if your md5 is not b3dc378a34c0551efe4925912bfa1a9c please redownload and delete the .1Stock_Firmware_Zip from your internal and external sd card and reflash zip
Here is every thing you need to use safestrap without odin. This zip will install the files need if you have to return to KitKat NCG to obtain root. It will also install the firmwares that can be flashed in safestrap so you will not need to use odin. This zip will also install Lollipop SafeStrap Recovery which will allow you to use safestrap without having to use odin to flash kernels and firmwares. I recommend using safestrap to flash for the simple fact if something goes wrong you can still have a chance of booting back to safestrap to reflash something as where using Flashfire if something fails there is a good chance you will have to odin back and start all over. For you who prefer Flashfire I still recommend installing safestrap just as a backup just incase flashfire fails. This zip will also install the Flashfire app
Rooting_Tools_For_S5_Lollipop.zip
Instructions for rooting Verizon S5 on Kitkat Or Lollipop Roms Or If your Already Rooted On A KitKat Rom (If you took the OE1 OTA Update there is currently no root method available)
If already running a rooted kitkat rom with safestrap proceed to step 4
1. Download Odin_3.10.6.zip and install on computer
2. Download NCG_Rescue_Tar_And_NCG_For_Root.tar.zip and extract the zip into the odin folder
3. Download lates USB drivers for computer Found HERE and install to computer
4. Download these 3 zips and extract them and copy the folders containing the zips to your sdcard. They are not flashable because you but the zips inside the folders are flashable and are needed in safestrap later on. If your already rooted skip to step 19 after you extract these zips to your sdcard
Stock_Firmware_Zip.zip
Stock_Kernel_Zip.zip
RootS5.zip
5. Copy anything you don't want to get deleted to your external sd card as this process is going to wipe internal storage
6. Reboot Phone to Download mode by holding the power button+volume down button+home button all at the same time.
7. Open Odin on your computer
8. Plug Phone into computer.
9 Press Volume up button on Phone (if you havent already done so) and let odin find your phone. The ID:COM box will turn blue when its ready
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10. Click the AP Box in odin and locate the NCG_Rescue_Tar_And_NCG_For_Root.tar.md5 file (which you should have extracted in the odin folder) click on the file and let odin load it. It may take several minutes to load
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11. Once it has passed MD5 check the AP box will populate the file
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12. Click Start and wait for it to finish will take around 5 to 10 minutes to flash
13. When phone is finally booted up just skip through the setup wizard there is no need to add any accounts as the files you will need you already added to your phone sd card
14. Use the file manager and open the RootS5 folder on your Sd card and install
tr_v3.apk
Superuser.apk
BusyBox.apk
Safestrap-G900V-3.75-KitKat.apk
15. Once all are installed open Towel Root and click Make it rain box then open SuperUser and when it ask to update binary click update normally, then it will ask to disable knox click yes. This may hang if so reboot then open SuperUser again it will again ask to disable knox click yes and then it successfully disable knox.
16. Open BusyBox and grant SuperUser root request. Then click install
17. Open safestrap grant super user root request then install safestrap. Once installed click reboot to recovery inside the safestrap app. If it fails to reboot to recovery install safestrap again and then click the reboot to recovery button it should work this time
18. Now make sure you have the Stock_Firmware_Zip folder and the Stock_Kernel_Zip folder on your sd card both folders should contain 3 flashable zips files
19. Copy Rom to sd card
20. Reboot to safestrap flash rom once rom is flashed navigated to the Stock_Firmware_Zip folder and flash the firmware that matches your rom that you flashed and click reboot
Instruction to Use SafeStrap Without odin If Already on rooted lollipop rom
1. Flash Rooting_Tools_For_S5_Lollipop.zip
2. Open Lollipop SafeStrap Recovery
3. Click Install SafeStrap. It will open Safestrap App wait for the SuperUser Request and grant permission(This may take a few seconds be patient) once you grant permission you may have to go back and reopen the app. Then install SafeStrap. wait for safestrap to install then click install safestrap again(Sometimes on BOD5 firmware it takes 2 times to stick this is why I say do it twice)
4. Open Lollipop SafeStrap Recovery
5. Click on Recovery Reboot
6. Click The Flash Button Grant SuperSu Root Access
7. Click the Reboot To SafeStrap Box
8. Phone will Reboot to SafeStrap. (If for some chance it doesnt boot to safestrap you will need to use odin and manually flash one of the lollipop kernels below. Then once rom is rebooted install safestrap again and problem should be fixed)
9. To return to rom from Safestrap you will need to flash the the stock kernel matching your rom or if your flashing Firmware then just flash that zip there is no need to flash kernel if you flashed a firmware zip. The Firmwares only need to be flashed if the rom you flashed is a different firmware otherwise just flash the kernel. The Firmwares will be located on internal and external SD cards in a file called 1Stock_Firmware_Zip folder and the Kernels will be in 1Stock_Kernel_Zip folder They should be at the top of the list of folders
10. If a problem happens when flashing a rom and you bootloop you will then need to use odin to flash the NI2 Kernel then you can get back to Safestrap
Odin Flashable Tars if you need them
NCG_Rescue_Tar_And_NCG_For_Root.tar.zip
NI2_stock_kernel.tar.md5
VZW_BOC4_RETAIL_FIRMWARE_ONLY.tar.md5
VZW_BOC4_RETAIL_KERNEL_ONLY.tar.md5
VZW_BOD5_RETAIL_FIRMWARE_ONLY.tar.md5
VZW_BOD5_RETAIL_KERNEL_ONLY.tar.md5
VZW_BOE1_RETAIL_KERNEL_ONLY.tar.md5
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@Hashcode for safestrap
@benwaffle for the Kernel flashing tool
@klabit87 for making this for verizon
@chetqwerty for the OE1 update.zip which I got the kernel and modem from
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Hello Im trying to unbrick my phone using NCG rescue zip. It wont pass cahce and will FAIL AUTH. Im using Odin I have a verizon GS5. Any ideas? Anyway I can disable secure download?
It says on my phone: (ODIN MODE)
UDC START
SYS REV CHECK FAIL (s): REFER 2 > BINARY 1
SECURE CHECK FAIL: CAHCE
THanks

j0mz said:
Hello Im trying to unbrick my phone using NCG rescue zip. It wont pass cahce and will FAIL AUTH. Im using Odin I have a verizon GS5. Any ideas? Anyway I can disable secure download?
It says on my phone: (ODIN MODE)
UDC START
SYS REV CHECK FAIL (s): REFER 2 > BINARY 1
SECURE CHECK FAIL: CAHCE
THanks
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Did you unzip and load the md5 tar in odin? Are you on BOE1 firmware if so you can not flash older firmwares.

Yes, I just did this two or three days ago from stock oc4 in order to install AllianceROM. Follow the instruction in the first spoiler and it works like a breeze. All you need is an internet connection for towelroot.
Edit: I was trying to reply to a post in discussion but it won't quote the post, and I have too few posts to reply there

long time lurker, first time poster. All boils down, nothing works, especially with locked bootloader.
I stupidly took OG5 OTA update, now I lost my root and that also locked my unlocked bootloader! I had tried everything that I could find on this form and google, NOTHING. I even ran Linux on VM and created custom ROM to work with OG5, nada. It didn't work.
I ODIN'd my phone back to the OG5 OTA update.
Until someone finds the way, I am stuck with extremely bloated stock which I hate so much.

@jrkruse, I'm a little unclear on something here. Maybe I'm just dense, just ask my wife.?
I'm currently on rooted stock NK2, with SafeStrap, and if I understand correctly I need to flash the OG5 room, and the OG5 kernel. Since I'm already rooted, I don't need to run the RootTools zip, correct? Also, what about the bootloader? Did I miss something somewhere?

Cappricorn said:
@jrkruse, I'm a little unclear on something here. Maybe I'm just dense, just ask my wife.
I'm currently on rooted stock NK2, with SafeStrap, and if I understand correctly I need to flash the OG5 room, and the OG5 kernel. Since I'm already rooted, I don't need to run the RootTools zip, correct? Also, what about the bootloader? Did I miss something somewhere?
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Flash OG5 rom then OG5 firmware zip no need to flash kernel if flashing firmware zip

Got it. Thank you! ?