Hi,guys!
I can't figure out why the Android System is using more battery than others. I feel like it is awful.2 hours and17 minutes of off the charger time and I'm at 86% with wifi-on and leave my phone on airplane . I have been spending most of my time trying to find ways to save battery and it is barely working, or at best working inconsistently. I might need to try a replacement. What do you guys think?
Does anybody knows how to fix it? I'm out of ideas.
I had the same problem on my moto x. I had to uninstall all the updates to anything google related.
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It is your Google account. Probably Google + or photos since you have WiFi enanled.
its the same with my s5, after all day when i check my battery stats android system uses the most battery. i'm trying all things to sort it out
Yes, sync troubles… I think that too…
Hermosa said:
Hi,guys!
I can't figure out why the Android System is using more battery than others. I feel like it is awful.2 hours and17 minutes of off the charger time and I'm at 86% with wifi-on and leave my phone on airplane . I have been spending most of my time trying to find ways to save battery and it is barely working, or at best working inconsistently. I might need to try a replacement. What do you guys think?
Does anybody knows how to fix it? I'm out of ideas.
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I don't have it quite as bad but removing carrier IQ has helped a bit, Go get system tuner and go into app mgr and find android system press details then open and go through activities, receivers and services and make sure everything you see that says IQAgent gets unchecked. This will help you stay out of ServiceIQ's eyes and also help your battery as your entire phone is debugged through those apps.(Another words I can't find the darn post that I used to help me)
Even with my friends verizon s5 lasting 9 days on a battery >.> He gets around 15 percent android system usage
Check with wakelock detector
Highpowers23 said:
I had the same problem on my moto x. I had to uninstall all the updates to anything google related.
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Did it work?I got np background updates other than Gmail.Can't wait for a fix!:angel:
JuanCarlos60 said:
Check with wakelock detector
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Sorry where do i find wake lock detector and what does it do?
Alan Shore said:
I don't have it quite as bad but removing carrier IQ has helped a bit, Go get system tuner and go into app mgr and find android system press details then open and go through activities, receivers and services and make sure everything you see that says IQAgent gets unchecked. This will help you stay out of ServiceIQ's eyes and also help your battery as your entire phone is debugged through those apps.(Another words I can't find the darn post that I used to help me)
Even with my friends verizon s5 lasting 9 days on a battery >.> He gets around 15 percent android system usage
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Thank you for your hwlp.I would have a try for that.Hope it could work.Thanks in advance.
Hermosa said:
Sorry where do i find wake lock detector and what does it do?
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Play store
Alan Shore said:
I don't have it quite as bad but removing carrier IQ has helped a bit, Go get system tuner and go into app mgr and find android system press details then open and go through activities, receivers and services and make sure everything you see that says IQAgent gets unchecked. This will help you stay out of ServiceIQ's eyes and also help your battery as your entire phone is debugged through those apps.(Another words I can't find the darn post that I used to help me)
Even with my friends verizon s5 lasting 9 days on a battery >.> He gets around 15 percent android system usage
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Hermosa said:
Thank you for your hwlp.I would have a try for that.Hope it could work.Thanks in advance.
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I have prepared a short guide to do that if it would help you... Here is the link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2799642
How exactly is this bad? The guy has close to 30 minutes for 10% of battery life, so proportionally close to 5 hours total screen on time for a full charge and this is supposed to be abnormal? Screen on time is purely on what you should base yourself first because you have no idea on what the phone reports as "Android system". As far as I know, if you had 5 minutes of screen on time instead of 30, that would be a problem worth investigating....but 30 minutes for 10%? You should not try to find issue where there are none.
Let me show you why you can't rely on phone stats. Here is my screenshot for today. Just from looking at it, you can already see i have some kind of huge wakelock problem, severe battery drain, especially if you consider I only have about 1h15 minutes of screen on time. Anybody looking at this could see that there is a problem with my phone. The fact is, there isn't. I had a 4h16 hour conversation today, but, my phone only reports voice calls taking up 12% of my battery life. Thats because other features are not included in the voice calls tab, like how the sensors have to always check if i'm close or not to the screen to turn it on or off, or the fact that it has to manage my wifi connection while using my mobile connection that is about 1 bar in my room. There are too many unknown factors to solely rely on what you see here, or on OPs screenshot. If you have 30 mins of screen time, and have 10% battery drain, thats fantastic. Don't forget, only 1 gen ago, having 3 hours of screen time with a full charge was awesome.
Now, I am doing what I read from a guide. I just plug it in every night and only use Ultra Power Saving in the day.From the guide,I would have full internet, phone and message capabilities with maximum battery life each day.Then I can leave off UPS on weekends and holidays to enjoy all the other apps.
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Play store
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Thank you,mate.I find it.But it seems no help.Is there anything else I should do?
Hermosa said:
Thank you,mate.I find it.But it seems no help.Is there anything else I should do?
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Maybe a Factory reset and then install your applications one by one to see which is drained your battery... anyway, take a good look to @polish_pat post
jgonzales74 said:
It is your Google account. Probably Google + or photos since you have WiFi enanled.
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I don't have a Samsung account linked and Android System is still a battery hog.
Hermosa said:
I don't have a Samsung account linked and Android System is still a battery hog.
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Play store - betterbatterystats
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I'm using Razr M but the battery drain so fast even though I use it just casually.. Indicated that "wakelock" contribute up to 15 percent and Android System also a lot. The screenshot is above as you can see my phone was just 19 minute on screen. >"<.. No idea why.. I was really concern about bloatware comes with the device keep running background and drain the battery. Because the Phone Idle take most battery as well
The Three thing in Wakelock are
Orientation Notifier
ModemStatService
Modem Fastdormancy Mornitor Service.
Screenshot included.
Does anyone knows what are those belong to and how to stop it?
Thanks
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I'm using Razr M but the battery drain so fast even though I use it just casually.. Indicated that "wakelock" contribute up to 15 percent and Android System also a lot. The screenshot is above as you can see my phone was just 19 minute on screen. >"<.. No idea why.. I was really concern about bloatware comes with the device keep running background and drain the battery. Because the Phone Idle take most battery as well
The Three thing in Wakelock are
Orientation Notifier
ModemStatService
Modem Fastdormancy Mornitor Service.
Screenshot included.
Does anyone knows what are those belong to and how to stop it?
Thanks
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Much more info is needed, to test if your phone has a problem remove all installed apps, charge to 100% and then check your batt stats. More likely than not something you installed is causing this.
simpledave said:
I'm using Razr M but the battery drain so fast even though I use it just casually.. Indicated that "wakelock" contribute up to 15 percent and Android System also a lot. The screenshot is above as you can see my phone was just 19 minute on screen. >"<.. No idea why.. I was really concern about bloatware comes with the device keep running background and drain the battery. Because the Phone Idle take most battery as well
The Three thing in Wakelock are
Orientation Notifier
ModemStatService
Modem Fastdormancy Mornitor Service.
Screenshot included.
Does anyone knows what are those belong to and how to stop it?
Thanks
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Something is definitely wrong there. Wake lock should not even be showing up unless you are using some app to purposefully keep the phone awake or something. You must have a rogue app.
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I agree
phositadc said:
Something is definitely wrong there. Wake lock should not even be showing up unless you are using some app to purposefully keep the phone awake or something. You must have a rogue app.
-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
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Yeah, I'm really suspicious about maybe some rogue apps run behind but no way to find out. maybe it's Viber or Whatsapp since it's always require internet connection to receive message. ... I would love to find a way to remove the bloat-software :crying: .. they ate half memory of the 8Gb Razr M, only 4.1 Gb Usable
simpledave said:
Yeah, I'm really suspicious about maybe some rogue apps run behind but no way to find out. maybe it's Viber or Whatsapp since it's always require internet connection to receive message. ... I would love to find a way to remove the bloat-software :crying: .. they ate half memory of the 8Gb Razr M, only 4.1 Gb Usable
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does betterbatterystats work on this phone? I use this on my S3 to find out what's keeping phone from deepsleep. Then you can find out which apps are keeping it up.
It's not whatsapp - I use that as well and I get 1-2 full days on a charge.
You've got a lot of apps running in your notification tray (top left) - I'd pull them all out... or better yet, FDR and don't opt to restore your Google config then start over.
Unless you want to list every app you have installed those are my recommendations.
Non Verizon SIM?
simpledave said:
I'm using Razr M but the battery drain so fast even though I use it just casually.. Indicated that "wakelock" contribute up to 15 percent and Android System also a lot. The screenshot is above as you can see my phone was just 19 minute on screen. >"<.. No idea why.. I was really concern about bloatware comes with the device keep running background and drain the battery. Because the Phone Idle take most battery as well
The Three thing in Wakelock are
Orientation Notifier
ModemStatService
Modem Fastdormancy Mornitor Service.
Screenshot included.
Does anyone knows what are those belong to and how to stop it?
Thanks
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I have the very same issues, but only on GSM as soon as I am on Wifi battery life is excellent. I am using a German SIM card (in Germany) which works well (except of mobile hot spot). So I am suspecting some internal service looking for a Verizon service, which it obviously cannot find. Any thoughts?
MasterServant said:
I have the very same issues, but only on GSM as soon as I am on Wifi battery life is excellent. I am using a German SIM card (in Germany) which works well (except of mobile hot spot). So I am suspecting some internal service looking for a Verizon service, which it obviously cannot find. Any thoughts?
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Go into your dialer and type *#*#4636#*#* then hit the "phone information button" then scroll down to something that says "network types"or something along those lines and choose the "wdcma preferred" option. That might stop it from looking for vzw networks.
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Go into your dialer and type *#*#4636#*#* then hit the "phone information button" then scroll down to something that says "network types"or something along those lines and choose the "wdcma preferred" option. That might stop it from looking for vzw networks.
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Thanks for the hint. But that does not solve the problem. I have installed juicedefender, which in its default setting seems to solve the problem. The battery life with juicedefender seems eternal . However, the phone is less "reactive" to email pushes etc.
I am getting the pro version of juicedefender, perhaps I can get down to the root.
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I'm using Razr M but the battery drain so fast even though I use it just casually.. Indicated that "wakelock" contribute up to 15 percent and Android System also a lot. The screenshot is above as you can see my phone was just 19 minute on screen. >"<.. No idea why.. I was really concern about bloatware comes with the device keep running background and drain the battery. Because the Phone Idle take most battery as well
The Three thing in Wakelock are
Orientation Notifier
ModemStatService
Modem Fastdormancy Mornitor Service.
Screenshot included.
Does anyone knows what are those belong to and how to stop it?
Thanks
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My gf is having the same problem with her M. GSam said GMaps was wakelocked-looped...woke the thing 1,271 times in the 8 hours she had it unplugged. Auto-location reporting was turned on (wtf), switched it off but it kept dropping. ~10 hours off the cord with maybe 30 minutes use and it was at 6%. We'll see what happens tomorrow, but any ideas are much appreciated. I know more info is needed but it's kind of hard to pry into unrooted phones...we'll see.
I had the same problem two days ago. Two words for you... FAST DORMANCY (google it). Thats the culprit and is very telling with the first picture showing the phone is awake constantly when wifi is off and mobile data is on... you can test it yourself, compare battery drop rate with mobile data on and with wifi on.
Solution
1. Root phone, unfortunately you have to.
2. Download titanium backup
3. Freeze modemstatservice
4. Freeze fastdormancy.
Let me know if this helps you.
Thanks.. i just did freezing those 2 service.. lets see what will happen then...
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sombody said:
I had the same problem two days ago. Two words for you... FAST DORMANCY (google it). Thats the culprit and is very telling with the first picture showing the phone is awake constantly when wifi is off and mobile data is on... you can test it yourself, compare battery drop rate with mobile data on and with wifi on.
Solution
1. Root phone, unfortunately you have to.
2. Download titanium backup
3. Freeze modemstatservice
4. Freeze fastdormancy.
Let me know if this helps you.
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Can you explain why titanium backup is needed?
I stopped the modemstatservice and fastdormancy services. Hope that works. I actually did a factory reset and thought for a short moment that it has improved, but that's not the case. I can stay a whole day with quiet a lot of browsing on Wifi and us up 20%. On 3G I drain 25% in 4h
So I bought titanium backup, freezed modemstatservice and fastdormancy.
No change in battery drain. I would like to know if all the other who have the same problem are running on a verizon SIM.
Until now nothing has worked. Under normal usage, I get a flat battery in about 16h. Normal means 2calls (<3min) and perhaps 5min of browsing.
I am having the same issue - coming from a Thunderbolt I am still happy with the battery as it is but if the wake lock could be resolved the battery would be awesome...
Not sure what is causing the gtalk spike as I removed that app...
ETA: running Jelly Bean leak & rooted... I also reflashed the leak wiping data, etc... with no change
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Can you explain why titanium backup is needed?
I stopped the modemstatservice and fastdormancy services. Hope that works. I actually did a factory reset and thought for a short moment that it has improved, but that's not the case. I can stay a whole day with quiet a lot of browsing on Wifi and us up 20%. On 3G I drain 25% in 4h
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Sorry to hear that this fix didnt work for you. Could you provide more info regarding your network and if possible some screenshot of betterbatterystats or something similar. Maybe *#*#4360#*#* > battery information might give me more information with regards to your problem.
Also, if you want to do really help eliminate more variables, try using ur phone on 3G without installing any apps.
I'll try to help you the best i could. :cyclops:
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Notrega said:
I am having the same issue - coming from a Thunderbolt I am still happy with the battery as it is but if the wake lock could be resolved the battery would be awesome...
Not sure what is causing the gtalk spike as I removed that app...
ETA: running Jelly Bean leak & rooted... I also reflashed the leak wiping data, etc... with no change
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Maybe uninstalling gtalk and leaving an apk is causing the spike since it is trying to sync. Why not leave it on, also try reducing email refresh time to 1hr as oppose to the default (15 mins). Your battery life seems reasonable.
Wake Lock Questions:
Anyone know what the bam.dmux.wakekock is for? It says it's for a power management system but I don't know what that's supposed to do.
Also the Ssmdcnt10 wake lock?
Those are the two that are running on my phone and both are running like 36 minutes since I unplugged my phone this morning. Is this bad or is it something that I could allow to continue happening? Thx!
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MasterServant said:
So I bought titanium backup, freezed modemstatservice and fastdormancy.
No change in battery drain. I would like to know if all the other who have the same problem are running on a verizon SIM.
Until now nothing has worked. Under normal usage, I get a flat battery in about 16h. Normal means 2calls (<3min) and perhaps 5min of browsing.
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I froze mine and so far it has improved and I'm running the jellybean leak with root; HOWEVER my battery still drains fast and when I was on ICS my battery life was amazing so I'm actually probably going to revert back to that tomorrow. I fed the jellybean leak since it came out early last week and tried everything that I know to increase battery life but nothing works.
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I reverted back to ICS yesterday and let me tell you there is no lag or battery drain issue at all. It's so much better.
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I reverted back to ICS yesterday and let me tell you there is no lag or battery drain issue at all. It's so much better.
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Thinking of days in this...
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I know that there are several threads about battery life in the General forum, but I decided to create a new one, cause I want this thread to take a different direction, and actually help the owners, which are having problems with kernel wakelocks as me.
So... here it goes. I decided to make a test by using my phone mainly as a PHONE ! From the screenshots you will be able top see exactly what I did with the phone for the last 60 hours. Just to mention that my phone ISN`T ROOTED. Wifi sleep policy set to ALWAYS ; auto brightness ; power saver on except 30 minutes when I wanted a brighter display at direct sunlight ; Auto Sync on BUT - almost everything set to sync off or manual, except weather, gmail (mail and contacts) and one more mail sync using the mail app. Used some internet, made some photos, listened to some music, checked mail after notifications, refreshed blinkfeed couple of times just to go through the smartphone headlines, checked battery usage and software update like 100 times lol - and there are the 2+h of screen on. I don`t use facebook, twitter etc.
And now comes the most important part and the reason I started this thread in the first place. I got like 4 hours of held awake time. In the screenshots provided you can see where these hours exactly came from. I`m absolutely sure that HTC One can manage to achieve like 3 full days of normal phone usage if it wasn`t for those sick wakelocks I`m getting (and I`m sure most of you are getting too). I know all of you have read that "7 hours screen on time" and saw the screens from some guys with 7+ hours screen on. If you pay close attention you will see that their devices worked for more than 10 hours and they got less than 10 minutes of Held Awake time. What I`m trying to figure out is how they achieved such thing.
One more thing I would like to point out if someone decides that 4 hours of held awake time are something normal for a 60h usage. Keep in mind that phone lost 1% per hour while I was asleep, which I don`t think is something normal, cause I read alot that people are loosing like 3-4% for 10 hours during the night (someone even mentioned 1%).
So basically please use this thread to discuss any wakelocks (mainly kernel related) you have and ways to get rid of them. There are alot of threads going on in xda about almost every single wakelock I`m experiencing, but I think the info is different for every phone out there. I tried almost every suggestion, but without any good result.
Here are some screenshots from Gsam Battery Monitor, BetterBatteryStats, and Battery in Setting.If you like to see a detailed info please use the dropbox link. I won`t discuss every single screenshot I made, but just want to point out two interesting things I noticed. Although facebook app is TOTALLY disabled in my phone, I still have it as a working process that is causing wakelock as you can see in screenshot 13 in dropbox folder. And also I have turned every single option in Maps to off, except first option (Google`s location service) in Settings>Location.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k7reupon5dcy42p/a4VNWyJLGJ
P.S. I`ve heard that with 4.2.2 some things are fixed, or at least not causing so many wakelocks, but we`ll have to wait and see.
good post, i would like to know the same. I want to know some extra info:location and provider
godutch said:
good post, i would like to know the same. I want to know some extra info:location and provider
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Location : Bulgaria ; Provider : Mtel
to OP your result seems normal to me
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One more thing I would like to point out if someone decides that 4 hours of held awake time are something normal for a 60h usage. Keep in mind that phone lost 1% per hour while I was asleep, which I don`t think is something normal, cause I read alot that people are loosing like 3-4% for 10 hours during the night (someone even mentioned 1%).
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Mmm ... don`t think that`s something normal, I`m afraid
I would like to see other advanced users pay attension to this post. I
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there have been recent problems with maps and play store,
Magpir said:
there have been recent problems with maps and play store,
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Haven`t got any problems with play store tbh, but maps is a huge pain in the a**, as you can see in the shots provided. As I said... turned almost everything off and still can`t disable the wakelocks it is causing (as even I haven`t done anything)
man thats great.
I have seen that this phone gets good battery. Maybe it will be close to the old green screen and non smart phone battery life lol.
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Haven`t got any problems with play store tbh, but maps is a huge pain in the a**, as you can see in the shots provided. As I said... turned almost everything off and still can`t disable the wakelocks it is causing (as even I haven`t done anything)
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once you sign in to google now is when this all starts, the maps eat more battery than anything else, at least for me anyway.
I have been saying this pretty often, but that's because it works
Try greenify!
I have almost no wakelocks mainly thanks to this app
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thom109 said:
I have been saying this pretty often, but that's because it works
Try greenify!
I have almost no wakelocks mainly thanks to this app
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disable auto sync on those apps you greenified ...thats all greenify does , (when u put it in deep sleep u cant sync or disable sync on thos apps, apps are auto killed and put to deep sleep) there will be no need to even install it then. there is nothing magical happening. just a another way to fool users.
I've been trying to nail down the maps wakelock which appears to be NetworklocationLocator. It's been driving me mad! I disabled everything in maps but no better. Then I found another setting and I've had a huge improvement since.
Try this:
Settings > Accounts and Sync > Google > Location Settings > Location Access. Now turn off Google's location Service.
This will give you loads more battery and use less data. The downside? The weather location doesn't show current location. I just fix the weather manually to my home town. That's all I need. If I'm passing through Slough on the train I don't need the weather forecast for it! Also in maps it doesn't give you an approx fix, instead just turn on GPS like you would anyway and get the fix.
i really don't see much,if anything, wrong here. You have 5 hours and 50 minutes of awake time, less 2 hours and 10 minutes where the screen was on and another 1 hour and 5 minutes that the phone was active. So in reality you only have about 2.5 hours of time out of 60 where the phone could have been in deep sleep but wasn't.
Out of that 2.5 hours, 1 hour was google talk/hangouts, which you can simply sign out of, and 20 minutes is htc weather updates. That's leaving you with just over an hour out of 60, or about 1.5%, which is excellent.
You could probably do even a bit better by greenifying facebook and maps.
The kernel wakelocks are normal, the phone needs to spend some time keeping the OS running and communicating with the cell towers, i bet everyone will see similar msm_hsic_host usage as long as they have the cell radio running.
Aldo101t said:
once you sign in to google now is when this all starts, the maps eat more battery than anything else, at least for me anyway.
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I keep mine logged into Google Now; I have the widget on my desktop. I have not seen any battery impact.
To OP:
I see that you are having 2 days of No Data Connection in BatteryStats, as shown below. Is it because you are connected to Wifi all the while instead of connected to the 3G mobile network? And your wifi has been turned on for more than a day. Basically, is 3G that kills battery. Perhaps you can try not to be connected to Wifi and see if the phone can last more than a day?
Thanks!
Every Android user should try Greenify:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en
It's an amazing app! With great smoothness and battery life.:good:
u can go to settings ' apps , all disable google maps . u will then see google maps not running in the backgrounfd
use a 3rd paty app for navigation if u need it
chris3g said:
The kernel wakelocks are normal, the phone needs to spend some time keeping the OS running and communicating with the cell towers, i bet everyone will see similar msm_hsic_host usage as long as they have the cell radio running.
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I sometimes see hours of that wakelock during a day, even overnight almost 15 minutes
stevedebi said:
I keep mine logged into Google Now; I have the widget on my desktop. I have not seen any battery impact.
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Turn Google Now off and see the improvement!
So, I've been having some battery issues lately and I can't really tell why. I haven't been doing anything too extreme, but my battery is almost dead within 12 hours of a charge, and the highest usage is mostly the Kernel and/or OS. I know next to nothing about that side of things, so I exported reports from GSam, and I'm hoping someone will be able to translate them for me if there's an obvious problem. Thanks in advance!
(I've also uninstalled Boxer, I only had it because Pro was free yesterday.)
greycobalt said:
So, I've been having some battery issues lately and I can't really tell why. I haven't been doing anything too extreme, but my battery is almost dead within 12 hours of a charge, and the highest usage is mostly the Kernel and/or OS. I know next to nothing about that side of things, so I exported reports from GSam, and I'm hoping someone will be able to translate them for me if there's an obvious problem. Thanks in advance!
(I've also uninstalled Boxer, I only had it because Pro was free yesterday.)
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Keep the location enabled.
Are you using any of the smart stay/air view etc. controls?
If not turn them ALL off.
mirror3d said:
Keep the location enabled.
Are you using any of the smart stay/air view etc. controls?
If not turn them ALL off.
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As far as I know, location is always turned on (meaning I never turn it off myself). One of the first things I did was turn off all the smart crap, and turn off every piece of bloatware I could in the settings (I'm not rooted).
When was the last time that your phone was restarted?
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When was the last time that your phone was restarted?
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I usually restart it every other day, give or take. It's gone a couple days without it before. I don't usually have it off for more than a couple minutes at a time though.
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I usually restart it every other day, give or take. It's gone a couple days without it before. I don't usually have it off for more than a couple minutes at a time though.
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This is beginning to sound much more complicated.
Did you install any apps recently?
How old is the phone?
Also do you have data/wifi on all the time?
mirror3d said:
This is beginning to sound much more complicated.
Did you install any apps recently?
How old is the phone?
Also do you have data/wifi on all the time?
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That's not good. :-/
I install apps often, but I just as often uninstall them...I guess that's not much help. If it was one of them though, wouldn't it show up under the battery log?
It's approaching a year old, I got it last November I believe.
Yes, I keep my Wifi and data on all the time.
Bad network will drain your battery. Check how the signal is.
Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)
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Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)
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Stated in reply post that the phone is not rooted.
My advice will be to uninstall apps one at time to find the one causing the drain.
ddogishere said:
Stated in reply post that the phone is not rooted.
My advice will be to uninstall apps one at time to find the one causing the drain.
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And neither is mine. Wakelock detector still works in the tab that shows Deep Sleep vs Awake. As I said by 'Everything else requires root, but that still works'.
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Bad network will drain your battery. Check how the signal is.
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That varies. At home, I have great signal (full-signal 4G, router is never more than 20 feet away). Some places in town, I can drop to 3G, especially my grandparents (although my grandma does have a router I'm connected to). There's a weird (unrelated?) bug where if I drop to 3G, I either have to turn airplane mode on or wait several hours until it reverts back to 4G, even though I'll be back in a verified 4G area.
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Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)
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I will definitely check that out and use it tonight. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll get back to you on what it says. What generally causes the wakelocks, specific apps? Or just poorly set-up preferences?
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I will definitely check that out and use it tonight. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll get back to you on what it says. What generally causes the wakelocks, specific apps? Or just poorly set-up preferences?
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Usually apps. Facebook, Skype, some games. Although Mediascanner(Android process) is also known to be responsible for it quite often.
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Usually apps. Facebook, Skype, some games. Although Mediascanner(Android process) is also known to be responsible for it quite often.
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It looks like PayPal was one of the culprits? For some reason?
I did find out I could root extremely easily, so did so and downloaded Greenify, so I'm hoping I can tweak enough to get my battery life back.
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It looks like PayPal was one of the culprits? For some reason?
I did find out I could root extremely easily, so did so and downloaded Greenify, so I'm hoping I can tweak enough to get my battery life back.
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That does seem to be the case... Either uninstall paypal or drop it in the Greenify list.
Google Search is probably either the widget or you're using Google Now.
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That does seem to be the case... Either uninstall paypal or drop it in the Greenify list.
Google Search is probably either the widget or you're using Google Now.
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By widget, do you mean the search bar? I use Nova, and I've removed that, so it must be Google Now. I don't use it often, but it does leave me weather cards and shipping info, so would that be it?
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By widget, do you mean the search bar? I use Nova, and I've removed that, so it must be Google Now. I don't use it often, but it does leave me weather cards and shipping info, so would that be it?
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I don't think they're related, but I can't be a hundred percent sure. You can try disabling both Google Search ones under apps -> all, see what that does to the info updates. If it scrambles them, just turn them back on.
(There's two Google Search, one is the search bar, the other is the app related to it.)
With that and Paypal dealt with, battery life should improve significantly.
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I don't think they're related, but I can't be a hundred percent sure. You can try disabling both Google Search ones under apps -> all, see what that does to the info updates. If it scrambles them, just turn them back on.
(There's two Google Search, one is the search bar, the other is the app related to it.)
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Awesome! I'll try it out today, and then get back to you again. Thanks for all your help, it's much appreciated!
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Awesome! I'll try it out today, and then get back to you again. Thanks for all your help, it's much appreciated!
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Happy to help Let's hope that solves it! Also don't forget to greenify Paypal (Or uninstall it if you don't need it), as that seems to be the main culprit.
I've noticed this phone has hit or miss battery life depending on what you have installed, greenified and frozen. I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread where everyone could share their battery life tips and tricks on this phone.
Below I posted what I have done to maximize battery life. I have not rooted my phone yet, so none of the below tips require root.
I disabled all bloatware apps that came with the phone. I did not disable any of the Asus applications.
I utilize the Asus autostart manger and denied auto start to all my applications except music applications, messenger applications, and google photo sync.
battery sucks. drain to much.
Just use until you have 5% free battery, this should make at least your day
With Android OS taking so much thanks to lollipop, there is not a lot to hope.
We wont see a good battery improvement until we get 5.1
Luckily, that is in the future for this device acc. to Asus.
Since the issue seems to primarily be Android os draining the battery I don't think most battery saving measures will make a difference. We will just have to wait for an update
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
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When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
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I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
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I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
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I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
facelessloser said:
I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
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Glad you solved, but don't know why, maybe they are working hard on the firmware and there are lot of changes that can cause problem, maybe we have to wipe after every update, Intel processor and Lollipop are so unstable right now!
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Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
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It helps..i turned andriod device manager too
Ok so this is my battery with a normal day of use... Tomorrow ill show the results with your sugestions. My normal days have gsm calls(normal phone calls) whasapp (chat) youtube, twich, game like plant vs zombies 2, look at gmail, surfing internet, taking pics like 25 today.
I notice that battery drains a lot more while photo app open.
I use doble sim as you can see
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
Sammaul said:
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
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Really interesting app ill download tomorrow im tring to lock some functionalities from google like sending data for app security and after that will download this and tell you what i got
Thank u sir thats a good one
Everyone is always wondering about Android using the most battery. Without doing some in depth debugging and tracing I would guess Houdini falls under Android. Because the ZenFone 2 uses the Intel processor a binary conversion for ARM instructions takes place with Houdini. More than likely you have a lot of apps native for ARM.
Force closing asus support app and zenui services app from apps setting gives me good amount of battery boost. Apart I have also disabled google books, movies, plus etc. I don't know if its placebo effect but someone can try and confirm. These app tend to restart at times so if you feel the battery decreasing at high rates again, make sure you force close them again.
Roughly speaking, I tend to get 3-5 min per percentage of screen on time with this which totals to 5 to 6 hrs on SOT on continous usage. Without the apps being force closed, I barely get 2min/%. The usage scenarios are normal web browsing, chats etc. This is using mobile data. It gets even better with wifi.
Try and let me know if this helps.
Maybe I don't use my phone as much as other people. I posted this last night on another forum. My phone was unplugged at 07:00, It's now 21:00. I have 80% battery left and the battery monitor shows 3 days left
I have received email, 3 phone calls and text messages. I checked Twitter a couple of times with the browser. I have read Google News a couple of times and played GSN Casino for about 20 minutes.
In Auto Start Manager I turned off Docs, Sheets, Skype, Slides, Translate, Amazon Kindle, Data Transfer and Web Storage. Everything else is Allow, but I have no social networking applications installed.
Its looks like battery life is a right mixed bag. At the start of the week I was suffering wake lock issue, my phone wouldn't go into deep sleep and was constantly awake. I wiped and restored from backup which seams to fix the issue.
Got up this morning and it looks like the wake lock issue is back. I don't know what to do to fix it.
Feel like giving up on the phone and sending it back if I can
Got my mate 7 A few weeks ago. Love it. Getting awesome sot (8.5) the last charge mainly using mobile data..
But today google contact sync is draining so much battery. I've exported and deleted all contacts from google. Disabled back up my phone in settings and even disabled the app in settings and it still opens... I don't really want to have to root it. Any ideas I may not have tried?
Also wonder,my phone is rooted though, well, didn't want to freeze any Google services but some features like backup system is stubbornly running even after disable in settings. Don't know any good medicine from this issue.
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brack11 said:
Also wonder,my phone is rooted though, well, didn't want to freeze any Google services but some features like backup system is stubbornly running even after disable in settings. Don't know any good medicine from this issue.
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man u NEED g services to run .. jeezz
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man u NEED g services to run .. jeezz
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Yes I know that. The thing that drives me crazy is that I have no control over running background apps, like backup, that were disabled via Google provided interface. This is type of cheating to have an interface that doesn't do much.
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Yes I know that. The thing that drives me crazy is that I have no control over running background apps, like backup, that were disabled via Google provided interface. This is type of cheating to have an interface that doesn't do much.
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u do not need to gave control over g play services .. you need to leave g services bee otherwise u won't get notifications or gmail syncs etc..
I am having the same problem. Contact sync is draining my battery!
Itsme93 said:
I am having the same problem. Contact sync is draining my battery!
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well why u leaving unnecessary apps running ?? that is only your fault
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well why u leaving unnecessary apps running ?? that is only your fault
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Closing or deactivating Google contact sync doesen't change anything.
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Closing or deactivating Google contact sync doesn't change anything.
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don't u see power consumption..? just close them all and in protected apps untick them all and leave just gservices and gmail..
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don't u see power consumption..? just close them all and in protected apps untick them all and leave just gservices and gmail..
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I already tried that. After closing Google contact sync it disappers from the list but a couple Minuten later it is back.
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I already tried that. After closing Google contact sync it disappers from the list but a couple Minuten later it is back.
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that is fine .. it runs only when u using phone.. that process doesn't drain a lot..
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that is fine .. it runs only when u using phone.. that process doesn't drain a lot..
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It drains more than chrome which I have been using all day.
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It drains more than chrome which I have been using all day.
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I've got same ... even more 40mAh
you know what you can do go to setings -> google account -> tap account where numbers are synced from -> disable sync contacts
see if that helps
I froze with TB google app, then defrozed it and converted to user app, also didnt enable google now service, after all I have drain 10% per 6 hours at night, while phone is on extreme battery mode and just laying on the night stand without anyone touching it. Screen on time is impressive but battery drains while screen is off.
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I froze with TB google app, then defrozed it and converted to user app, also didnt enable google now service, after all I have drain 10% per 6 hours at night, while phone is on extreme battery mode and just laying on the night stand without anyone touching it. Screen on time is impressive but battery drains while screen is off.
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Mine is also draining too much energy while screen is off. Like 100% to 55%!! All in a matter of 10 hours and a half.
Have you fixed this particular issue yet?
Please see my case here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62870579&postcount=12
Thank you!
It's happening exactly the same to me I've installed OS monitor app and everything seems to be perfect but it's happening to me the same.
I've been the hole day looking for a solution but nothing, new phone I got Motorola 360, I do t k of if maybe because of that...
Sw33t_Lov3r said:
Mine is also draining too much energy while screen is off. Like 100% to 55%!! All in a matter of 10 hours and a half.
Have you fixed this particular issue yet?
Please see my case here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62870579&postcount=12
Thank you!
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It did solve the problem temporary, however my phone died (not related reason) warranty replaced the phone and new one, uprooted, doesn't have that issue any more.
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One million question
brack11 said:
It did solve the problem temporary, however my phone died (not related reason) warranty replaced the phone and new one, uprooted, doesn't have that issue any more.
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How did you fixed it temporarily?
But the one million dollar question is: How much battery is lost while idle overnight?
This is the real question I think, because in all my tests, no matter the build version, I have got l least 5 hours of SOT (17 hours of use in total), which is not bad,
but most people get at least 7 hours SOT (in some 30+ hours) I guess I use it too frequently.
So, that would be the main question.
Please, do try to answer and tell us. Thank you!
- Leonardo.
Sw33t_Lov3r said:
How did you fixed it temporarily?
But the one million dollar question is: How much battery is lost while idle overnight?
This is the real question I think, because in all my tests, no matter the build version, I have got l least 5 hours of SOT (17 hours of use in total), which is not bad,
but most people get at least 7 hours SOT (in some 30+ hours) I guess I use it too frequently.
So, that would be the main question.
Please, do try to answer and tell us. Thank you!
- Leonardo.
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I have already told it in this discussion, I have frost (later removed actually) google app system application, and fresh installed it from the market as user app.
As I said earlier though, now I use unrooted phone with locked bootloader, in completely original state (except I use tsf shell and disabled all unused system apps) and no longer have any problem with battery.
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Guys I noticed that now phone drains battery faster when just browsing internet..
Had 20% and after 10 mins got 15%
Why it is so draining .. it is just browsing pages.. no video no audio at all..