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[Q] Market apps backed up by google.

Hey, just had a quick question. I am a crack flasher, I flash many ROMs..and I saw someone recommend a complete flash, not use titanium, and let google backup/restore their apps/data. How do I get thsi to work properly? I have done multiple full wipes, and it has only done it for me ONCE, where I logged into GMAIL and it downladed all my apps back automatically...I tried the "market doctor" feature in Titanium, that didn't help. Anyone?

It has to be a fresh install, and as far as I know, AOSP-based, such as CM. The first time you run the Market, it will download and install anything on your userid's list of installed (or, depending on your sync config, downloaded and later deleted). In the case of CM7 with gapps, which is where I've used it, the Market runs during first boot sequence, but you can cancel it to set up WiFi and/or restore apps from TB and run it later.

jggimi said:
It has to be a fresh install, and as far as I know, AOSP-based, such as CM. The first time you run the Market, it will download and install anything on your userid's list of installed (or, depending on your sync config, downloaded and later deleted). In the case of CM7 with gapps, which is where I've used it, the Market runs during first boot sequence, but you can cancel it to set up WiFi and/or restore apps from TB and run it later.
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Run what later? Market, or a some setup app? If its like a run on first boot, setup app, how do I run it later? And also, when you say clean you just mean, factory/data reset, wipe cache, wipe davlik, flash new rom? I saw something about reformatting in clockwork or something...?

Market. If you install CM7 and gapps, you will be prompted at the startup of Market to Cancel or run. If you cancel, just start Market later...
And by clean, I mean a "factory wipe/reset" -- and in some cases, reformatting /system. Yes.

jggimi said:
Market. If you install CM7 and gapps, you will be prompted at the startup of Market to Cancel or run. If you cancel, just start Market later...
And by clean, I mean a "factory wipe/reset" -- and in some cases, reformatting /system. Yes.
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Thanks... So I went into mounts and storage, should I also format cache and other things in there, or just format system?.. And should I do the format before or after I do a factory wipe?
Also... There isn't a way to turn this back up off so that it won't restore my apps?

You can damage your phone with indiscriminate formatting. It's best if you do some reading and research on your own so that you gain a basic understanding of how your device operates under the hood.
A factory reset formats /data and /cache, it does not do anything else.
YOU should take the time to find out for yourself what information is stored in each partition. Knowledge is safer than blindly following some instructions you find online somewhere, eh?
HTC Glacier running CM7 #31

Yea... I don't get it. I just fully wiped, reformatted system, and reflashed cm7 and gapps, and market doesn't restore nearly all my applications that I had previously installed...? Is there an option somewhere that isn't allowing some apps to be backed up, or restored or what?

This has worked for me with certain phones, but only that the apps were restored. The data for the apps were never restored for me, and I don't think it ever intended to.

To be clear, Google keeps a list of the Market apps you acquire. They don't actually back up any application data. That's yours, and is private. They may know you've aquired a Pr0n video player, but not your particular category favorites. Well, they will know from your Google search terms. But not from your application list, unless there are specific apps dedicated to your peccadilloes.
The FIRST time Market is run with an existing account, the list will be used to download those applications once more. That's all.

jggimi said:
To be clear, Google keeps a list of the Market apps you acquire. They don't actually back up any application data. That's yours, and is private. They may know you've aquired a Pr0n video player, but not your particular category favorites. Well, they will know from your Google search terms. But not from your application list, unless there are specific apps dedicated to your peccadilloes.
The FIRST time Market is run with an existing account, the list will be used to download those applications once more. That's all.
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google should make something like the itune, where you can backup apps, contacts, data and stuff in your computer in one place. this is the only thing i like about an iphone.

[Q] App Backup- Not a stupid question

I was wondering how to backup an app WITHOUT backing up the data along with it. I have been having permission problems with my restores after flashing new roms. I believe it has something to do with the user data that comes with the apps.
Basically, how do I backup apps alone, without any of my personal data coming along with it?
Is there such a function on Titanium Backup? I have been using this.

huynh727 said:
I was wondering how to backup an app WITHOUT backing up the data along with it. I have been having permission problems with my restores after flashing new roms. I believe it has something to do with the user data that comes with the apps.
Basically, how do I backup apps alone, without any of my personal data coming along with it?
Is there such a function on Titanium Backup? I have been using this.
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With Titanium Backup you can restore Apps one by one. or as a batch option. You do not have to back up personal data with the app data.
This is what i do when i switch ROMs. I just skip the sign in, then log in via the accounts and sync option, then use the market to download T/Backup and batch restore and allow Google to re-sync my phone and use tit/bac for my apps.

This is what i do when i switch ROMs. I just skip the sign in, then log in via the accounts and sync option, then use the market to download T/Backup and batch restore and allow Google to re-sync my phone and use tit/bac for my apps.
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Right, that is what I meant. When you just backup apps alone, the app data comes along with it. For example, when I restore angry birds alone, I still have all of my accolades. I was wondering how I could restore apps similar to freshly installing it onto my phone.

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Right, that is what I meant. When you just backup apps alone, the app data comes along with it. For example, when I restore angry birds alone, I still have all of my accolades.
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Yes. If you do a batch restore you can have it do "restore apps with data" and it will act like you never left the game.

I forgot to mention a part, please look at my above post again. Thanks

huynh727 said:
I forgot to mention a part, please look at my above post again. Thanks
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Yes you can also restore apps w/o user data.
you can also unlink apps from the market. So like with the recent flash update you can unlink the app from the market so you do not get market updates. so i can keep 10.1 and not worry about 10.2.

So how would I do that?

huynh727 said:
So how would I do that?
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do what?
we've covered several different things.

neidlinger said:
do what?
we've covered several different things.
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Backup an app, then restore it as a fresh app without any data from before.

huynh727 said:
Backup an app, then restore it as a fresh app without any data from before.
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after you've rooted
after you've made sure s=off
you need to install the TB from the market and the Pro Key
once you you do that open the app up, download BusyBox via the "problems" button.
Then go to the "backup/restore" button and pick what you want to freeze/backup/restore
if you want to do a batch option from the main screen press the menu > BATCH > then select what you want to .

huynh727 said:
I was wondering how to backup an app WITHOUT backing up the data along with it. I have been having permission problems with my restores after flashing new roms. I believe it has something to do with the user data that comes with the apps.
Basically, how do I backup apps alone, without any of my personal data coming along with it?
Is there such a function on Titanium Backup? I have been using this.
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You can also try MyBackup Root. Its free and a little easier to use than Titanium. Seems to work great for me.

As well as ES file explorer or AntTek app manager.
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[Q] what will happen to the paid app after flashing new rom

Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the homescreen settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?

Your apps are attached to your gmail account, as long as you sign in on your device with the same account after flashing/wiping, you can redownload the paid apps.
Titanium backup by default will not backup homescreen settings, but if you manually backup the launcher and its data then it can restore the settings.
Sent from Sheogorath with cheese.

Yeap once you buy your apps, they're yours for good. You can sign in a whole different device and your apps in the play store still belong to you, you just open the playstore and click on the lil arrow thing up at the top for the "My Apps" page. It will open to your installed apps and if you swipe to view the page to the right it shows all apps, which includes any app you previously downloaded but isn't installed.
And also when you wipe data and install a new rom, It will have you sign into your google account in the setup process right after the wifi connection screen. Once setup is complete and you're all booted up, if you just leave the tablet alone and let it settle a few minutes, it's going to automatically install all the apps you had installed on your last rom from the play store, unless you've changed the default backup/restore settings.
Make sure with titanium backup, you NEVER install system apps, which are the red ones. You can set the filter to User apps only before backing up your apps. Then you'll load the rom and complete the setup and let it settle while it installs all the apps it's going to from the play store. Then you can just batch restore any missing apps. I would batch restore the apps only, and then go back and restore only the app data that you actually need. For instance you may want to restore a game with a thousand levels of progress, but don't restore app data just to keep from typing a username and password into an app one time which takes about four seconds.
I help a lot of new guys get started wiping, installing roms, and setting up and try to teach them along the way. I let them learn instead of doing it for them. Here's what I've found to be the best way to learn.
Make a nandroid backup of current setup. Then wipe data, cache, dalvic cache, and system, install the rom and gapps, and reboot and setup. Once it's setup let it settle in and sync and all that good stuff. You want the boxes asking if you want to back up the tablet and restore to the tablet in the setup process both checked.
After you've booted, set up, and let all the apps install that it's going to install, then reboot into recovery and make another nandroid backup, if using TWRP you can name it like "ExampleRom_B4Titanium." Now you've got a clean nandroid backup of the rom setup, and you can start playing with titanium backup and if you accidentally do something that causes problems, you can just wipe everything and restore that clean nandroid backup you made prior to Titanium.

[Q] Restore apps

Why isn't the play store restoring my apps? I've signed into gmail on the intial set up. When I open up the play store, there are no apps listed. It takes a min or 2 before only 6 or so apps show up under the install tab. When I move over to the all tab, I can see the apps that I've installed previously. I've used 4.3 ROMs on my Rezound, and all my apps download without any intervention on my part.
Anyone have any suggestions? I've installed Carbom, AICP, and Validus all with the same results with this phone.

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Why isn't the play store restoring my apps? I've signed into gmail on the intial set up. When I open up the play store, there are no apps listed. It takes a min or 2 before only 6 or so apps show up under the install tab. When I move over to the all tab, I can see the apps that I've installed previously. I've used 4.3 ROMs on my Rezound, and all my apps download without any intervention on my part.
Anyone have any suggestions? I've installed Carbom, AICP, and Validus all with the same results with this phone.
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Isn't there a checkbox when you first boot a new ROM that asks if you want the phone to automatically backup and restore your apps? Maybe this sin't being checked somehow. In any case, and I'm guessing here, go to Settings> Backup and reset> see if the Automatic Restore button is checked. If not, then maybe checking it and rebooting would get everything re-installed.
And there is always Titanium Backup (Restore) as well.
Good luck!

Also LG's built in back up/restore is very good. Almost like titanium back up. Restores app data and is completely automated.

rfarrah said:
Isn't there a checkbox when you first boot a new ROM that asks if you want the phone to automatically backup and restore your apps? Maybe this sin't being checked somehow. In any case, and I'm guessing here, go to Settings> Backup and reset> see if the Automatic Restore button is checked. If not, then maybe checking it and rebooting would get everything re-installed.
And there is always Titanium Backup (Restore) as well.
Good luck!
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I know the setting box you're talking. I've noticed before that there were two boxes to check, but on the g2 I've only seen one to back up my account.
I followed your instructions and that option wasn't enabled. But since I've already installed my apps, nothing is installing. I'll have to see if that fixed the issue, but I don't think it will since I do a clean wipe when switching ROMs.

Anyone know of any working NON-ROOT data backup apps for S8?

Hey guys,
I'm running into a couple issues with my phone so I want to factory reset. However, I'm stuck in this tricky situation where I was able to import my data from the S7, but I cannot re-back it up under the S8.
I'd been using Helium ever since I got my S7, since it uses the built-in backup methods without requiring root. However, under Nougat it doesn't seem to work as well. You cannot restore backups that include the .apk anymore, you have to install the apps first then restore their data.
Now I'm getting a bunch of apps where I restored the data from an older version where it was still possible, updated the apps from the Play store, and now I can't back them up again! I was testing this out with the actual adb desktop backup commands... those apps just give me a blank backup file. Examples are Gboard (formerly Google Keyboard) - you always used to be able to back that up with adb, and it still shows up in the list (e.g. they didn't do allow backups=false), but it doesn't work. Helium gives an error, adb just gives me a 1KB file with nothing in it. There's clearly data there...
What gets me is that Helium uses the *official* built-in Android desktop backup protocol. It's like Google started killing that off without telling anyone, and without even having the phone return a message saying the app can't be backed up. It appears to work, but you get a blank file.
I used to be able to just use a custom recovery to make a nandroid backup, so I could easily factory reset and recover if that didn't fix the problem. But since there's no root method for the Snapdragon S8, and AFAIK the stock bootloader can't do backups like that, I'm out of options.
Does anyone use any other methods? I know Google/Android *supposedly* backup your appdata for you, but it never works - every time I try that it reinstalls the app with empty data and I have to set everything up all over again.

I would suggest using Samsung's own Cloud to back up your data. Works surprisingly well, it backs up pretty much everything, even home screen layout. It even backs up apps like OGYoutube or anything 3rd party. Looks like it backs up the entire apk and restores them with your data and logins. Worked well for me when I flashed G950U1 firmware
EDIT: Also if you go this route and factory reset your device for whatever reason, upon initial set up skip restoring apps from Google since Samsung's cloud will restore those apps back. I noticed that if you use both restore methods they will clash and your Samsung apps will be overwritten and your data will be wiped. Don't know if anyone else noticed this, just from my experience.

moises93 said:
I would suggest using Samsung's own Cloud to back up your data. Works surprisingly well, it backs up pretty much everything, even home screen layout. It even backs up apps like OGYoutube or anything 3rd party. Looks like it backs up the entire apk and restores them with your data and logins. Worked well for me when I flashed G950U1 firmware
EDIT: Also if you go this route and factory reset your device for whatever reason, upon initial set up skip restoring apps from Google since Samsung's cloud will restore those apps back. I noticed that if you use both restore methods they will clash and your Samsung apps will be overwritten and your data will be wiped. Don't know if anyone else noticed this, just from my experience.
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Wait, what? How do I do that? I tried the Smart Switch Windows software (not the one that lets you transfer between phones, there's a PC version too), and it only backed up the .apk, not the data.

drfsupercenter said:
Wait, what? How do I do that? I tried the Smart Switch Windows software (not the one that lets you transfer between phones, there's a PC version too), and it only backed up the .apk, not the data.
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Just go under Settings>Cloud and Accounts>Samsung Cloud and enable backup, check it out in there. It pretty much gives you details of what it'll back up for you.

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EDIT: Also if you go this route and factory reset your device for whatever reason, upon initial set up skip restoring apps from Google since Samsung's cloud will restore those apps back. I noticed that if you use both restore methods they will clash and your Samsung apps will be overwritten and your data will be wiped. Don't know if anyone else noticed this, just from my experience.
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Did you have to turn off any settings on Google backup before resetting phone ?

moises93 said:
I would suggest using Samsung's own Cloud to back up your data. Works surprisingly well, it backs up pretty much everything, even home screen layout. It even backs up apps like OGYoutube or anything 3rd party. Looks like it backs up the entire apk and restores them with your data and logins. Worked well for me when I flashed G950U1 firmware
EDIT: Also if you go this route and factory reset your device for whatever reason, upon initial set up skip restoring apps from Google since Samsung's cloud will restore those apps back. I noticed that if you use both restore methods they will clash and your Samsung apps will be overwritten and your data will be wiped. Don't know if anyone else noticed this, just from my experience.
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Looks like Samsung will terminate data back up after 11 Jan 2018 - must be a capacity issue.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/comments/7k2ihz/samsung_will_remove_app_data_backups_in_samsung/