Looks like we wont get android 5?
they din't mention anything about system img for n10 and n4
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Looks like we wont get android 5?
they din't mention anything about system img for n10 and n4
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Because they are releasing only developer images to get the bugs out. It's not a final release
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Because they are releasing only developer images to get the bugs out. It's not a final release
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But we will get it?
I'm pretty sure they will release a build for the N10 eventually. Unlike the N4, they still actually list the N10 for sale on the play store and if it wasn't out of stock you would still be able to buy one. Also, there have been bug reports found from Android L running on the N10, so they are clearly testing it out:
http://bgr.com/2014/06/25/android-l-features-nexus-10-log/
I just hope they don't make us wait until the fall for it. I brought a Nexus device because I want the new Android version on the day of release, dammit!
The day of release IS in fall.
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The day of release IS in fall.
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I know that's when the final version comes out, I just hope they release a preview build for the N10 before then. Way before then. Like tomorrow, for instance.
Sundar did say there would be a release for "developer devices" and this is the current development platform for the 10" form factor after all!
I got a message off the Nexus Google team saying this on twitter. "@malctron Android L is currently a developer preview. We haven't announced any news of a wider release to other devices. Stay tuned!" So I don't think they've forgot about us. After all there is the development logs for our device anyway.
I don't know, on the one hand part of the reason for buying a Nexus is the updates, but on the other hand after testing out "L" on my Nexus 7 I'm not eager to update. 4.3 is just as good or better than 4.4 or 5.0.
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I don't know, on the one hand part of the reason for buying a Nexus is the updates, but on the other hand after testing out "L" on my Nexus 7 I'm not eager to update. 4.3 is just as good or better than 4.4 or 5.0.
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Speak for yourself. Loving L on my N5. Hell, after using ART for 9 months, I can't imagine using a ROM without it anymore...
I thought I WAS speaking for myself...
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...ive-aosp-includes-support-nexus-4-5-7-2013-10
The key messages here is, "...Of course, just because branches have been published for these devices, it is not absolute confirmation that this entire list of devices will receive an official L release. Nothing is certain until Google releases OTAs and/or factory images..."
I've just bought a used Nexus 10. I'd not be too unhappy if it didn't get Android L, but I'm optimistic.
Only a few months left to go...
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The key messages here is, "...Of course, just because branches have been published for these devices, it is not absolute confirmation that this entire list of devices will receive an official L release. Nothing is certain until Google releases OTAs and/or factory images..."
I've just bought a used Nexus 10. I'd not be too unhappy if it didn't get Android L, but I'm optimistic.
Only a few months left to go...
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From what I read there may still be L for Nexus 10 but not a test version. Due to insufficient size of the system partition you may likely need to flash a factory image rather than an upgrade of any kind. This is not a comment about your overall internal storage size but specifically how the partition sizes were allotted. It's the same reason that the N10 does not include both dalvik and art like for example the Nexus 5.
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From what I read there may still be L for Nexus 10 but not a test version. Due to insufficient size of the system partition you may likely need to flash a factory image rather than an upgrade of any kind. This is not a comment about your overall internal storage size but specifically how the partition sizes were allotted. It's the same reason that the N10 does not include both dalvik and art like for example the Nexus 5.
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Yeah I'd be cool with that. And the waiting too as the device is doing what I need it to do...:highfive:
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The key messages here is, "...Of course, just because branches have been published for these devices, it is not absolute confirmation that this entire list of devices will receive an official L release. Nothing is certain until Google releases OTAs and/or factory images..."
I've just bought a used Nexus 10. I'd not be too unhappy if it didn't get Android L, but I'm optimistic.
Only a few months left to go...
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I am wondering myself, that the branch has been released and there is still no testing rom whit Android L. Normaly, it is only a question of days, till someone is compiling the source and release a first testing version.
Is there an official release date for Android L, yet? I would like to put it on my Nexus 10, when it is officially release and if the Nexus 10 is fully supported.
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Is there an official release date for Android L, yet? I would like to put it on my Nexus 10, when it is officially release and if the Nexus 10 is fully supported.
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Nothing yet. But "Teh Internetz" will explode with the news when it comes official!
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Hi all,
we have just stopped to wait for the 4.1 Jelly Bean... and there are already some rumors about the 4.2 K release in November.
Do you think we will see an official 4.2 update for our Nexus S?
I'm guessing Key Lime Pie will be announced with the new Nexus phone(s) sometime before the end of this year. If you have a Nexus device then you will get the update eventually. That's the assurance of buying a Nexus phone*.
*Unless you bought a CDMA Nexus.
But really even if the Nexus S is a bit old, it would be a sad to see Google stops supporting it when the hardware is still capable.
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Hi all,
Do you think we will see an official 4.2 update for our Nexus S?
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I'm going to guess no.. Nexus S is EOL and Google has to stop wasting resources on it sooner or later and I'm going to guess 4.1.1 was just that. Android Police server logs show 4.2 running on Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, and two other non-nexus devices. Nothing showing up for Nexus S running 4.2 though.
If this is the case, we can hope the drivers from 4.1.1 will be usable in 4.2.
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The current Android version for Nexus S (4.1.1) is too much bugged to be the last release. I expect a 4.1.2 or a 4.2 version. Or a Lumia 920.
I'd still like to think that my Nexus S will get the KLP update. After all, 4.2 is not that big an update from 4.1. If however, for some reason Google chooses to drop support for the crespo for that, I won't really blame them as the Crespo has definitely seen better days, and as a veteran for the Android cause, no one can say it hasn't been utilized to its fullest.
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In my opinion Jelly Bean is, with high probability, the last update we will receive.
Anyway I don't think Google will announce another Android version since the 4.1 was release only 3 months ago!
Well,
This is just rumor
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...w-phone-and-a-new-nexus-tablet-both-motorola/
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Someone's trolling Android Police's server logs. JOO92 is an invalid build number. Build numbers don't go higher than 90. JOO92 would be JOP02. Notice in the Android Police article, they show both JOO92 AND JOP02. Hmmm...sounds like someone realized the build number wasn't right, updated it, and hit the site again. This is total troll material.
Another piece of circumstantial evidence (though it may mean nothing)..."O" is a heretofore unseen branch identifier. We know "R" (like JRO03C, GRJ22, etc) is the release branch. We've also seen T (GTJ61), F (JFN53N), W (HWI69, GWK74), C (ICL53F), M (IML74K), and maybe a few others, but I don't think "O" is one that has been used before. Again, doesn't necessarily mean Google doesn't use it for something, but whatever.
The only point here is that the troll gave himself up with JOO92. Fail. BS.
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The current Android version for Nexus S (4.1.1) is too much bugged to be the last release. I expect a 4.1.2 or a 4.2 version. Or a Lumia 920.
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I do not think it is "too much bugged", but there is still something not working properly...
As you said, it would not be so much good if JB 4.1.1 is the latest build for our Nexus S...
After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:
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After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:
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Yeah, Jelly Bean runs amazingly well on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7. It turned the Xoom into a brand new tablet. The Nexus S, not so much. You can tell the hardware has a hard time with it.
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After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:
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Realized the same and sold my nexus s and got a gnex
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Can we at least wait until the next update is announced before saying we want it? Or a least shown in some way or another.
I think the ns will get 4.2, maybe a 'light' version, but I think we will get it. But if they release something like 5.0, there's no way
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Most of the rumors I have heard are saying that 4.2 will still be jellybean. Try googling "project roadrunner"
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Most of the rumors I have heard are saying that 4.2 will still be jellybean. Try googling "project roadrunner"
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If the 4.2 is still Jelly Bean, we can still hope we will get it ...
guys, the n1 just lost support with jb, and afaik, the devs even still managed to hack the crap out of it to make it load....I think it'll be a cold day in hell before devs give up on ns since it's still under 2 years old.
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guys, the n1 just lost support with jb
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Incorrect. The Nexus One lost support with Ice Cream Sandwich. The N1's last official OTA from Google was Gingerbread, 2.3.6/GRK39F.
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I think the Nexus S is done, but I'm happy with the two major updates we got (ICS & JB). We've gotta be thankful that the Nexus S/4G got more support over it's lifetime than most manufacturers do with their whole line of phones. :good:
Just want to see folks predictions about this really. How long do you think it will be before Google will leave it behind?
Nexus One: April/May 2010 - October 2011 (No offical update to 4.0+ )
Nexus S: December 2010 - October 2012 (No 4.2)
Really the Galaxy Nexus will be the next to feel google dropping support of OTA but how long does the N7 have? July 2012 - 2014/15?
i think max 2014
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i think max 2014
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No 4.3, 4.4, etc.?
Looking for what year do you think they will stop updating it. Forget Android version numbers as Google might just go from 4.2 to 5.0 to 5.5 or whatever.
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Looking for what year do you think they will stop updating it. Forget Android version numbers as Google might just go from 4.2 to 5.0 to 5.5 or whatever.
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My bet is that N7 will be dropped somewhere in Q1 2014
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My bet is that N7 will be dropped somewhere in Q1 2014
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Just as an add on: There will more than likely be unofficial roms past that too, hopefully
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Just as an add on: There will more than likely be unofficial roms past that too, hopefully
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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends
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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends
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Yeah, that's better than nothing
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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends
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Exactly! Its a very capable device and its a Nexus.. We wont leave it behind!
I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect
I honestly wouldn't worry about it. Nothing lasts forever, so enjoy it while it's there.
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Mid to late 2014, is my guess but who knows maybe it will be for as long the hardware will support it
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I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect
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What about the Nexus One, S, and Galaxy Nexus? All pure android with no bloatware.
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I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect
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Samsung makes the nexus 10 not Asus...
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I feel the Nexus7 will continue to be supported as long as it can handle the new OS and until Google releases another 7in tablet
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Looking at android versions, the Galaxy nexus could even be dropped at the next android release; it seems they're speeding up their android releases.
Which means maybe the next version of android might be the N7's last, unless both JB's only counted as one...
I think they might turn the Nexus line into an iPad type thing - with N7 second generation coming out some time around July. All just guessing though...
No idea. Personally I'm not too bothered about big updates to Android coming sooner - it would be better if Google worked more on bug-fixing - I'm sick of the media server bug, the less than advertised battery life etc on 4.2. They should also focus on getting developers to make more tablet optimised apps, unifying the Android experience (it really annoys me when an app has loading circle / progress bar from gingerbread etc).
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Looking at android versions, the Galaxy nexus could even be dropped at the next android release; it seems they're speeding up their android releases.
Which means maybe the next version of android might be the N7's last, unless both JB's only counted as one...
I think they might turn the Nexus line into an iPad type thing - with N7 second generation coming out some time around July. All just guessing though...
No idea. Personally I'm not too bothered about big updates to Android coming sooner - it would be better if Google worked more on bug-fixing - I'm sick of the media server bug, the less than advertised battery life etc on 4.2. They should also focus on getting developers to make more tablet optimised apps, unifying the Android experience (it really annoys me when an app has loading circle / progress bar from gingerbread etc).
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It will certainly not just be one more version, I expect 5.0 and at least 5.1 updates for our device. And when support stops it will be do to the lack of RAM (really wish they crammed 2GB in this thing)
As for apps, Google publishes Android guidelines. They can't hold a gun to developers heads and make them do things. Vote with your wallet on poorly designed apps, it isn't Google's job.
Anyone think we have a chance for it?
probably not officially, but from what we have xda
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We will have it for sure. But official is kind of unknown atm because only preview images for the nexus 5 and nexus 7 (I guess the 2013 model)will be avalible tomorrow. I guess wait and see what the devs can do overall we are still rocking a nexus device. Right?
I think 4.4.4 is latest officialy update but not last one, we have xda.
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I should have been more clear. I would not assume, nor do I think we will get it officially. BUT....I am not even sure if we will have it unofficially as the ROM has to function with Tegra 3 APIs due to the new graphics abilities. yes/no?
who knows.
the code has not been released yet, so nobody can tell at the moment.
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who knows.
the code has not been released yet, so nobody can tell at the moment.
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Good point. Just thought is would be fun to theorize about the possibility. It would really "renew" the 2012 models viability.
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who knows.
the code has not been released yet, so nobody can tell at the moment.
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you can say it for let's say 70% that it will come UNOFFICIAL because most custom roms have a backward compatible framework. So that e.g. drivers that are not supported by a newer android version can still be used in that version or a CPU feature is missing e.g. neon in the 2X. Google stopped the support for non neon devices I think in android 4.2.2 and guess what, the 2X is rocking Android 4.4.4
Think that Nexus 7 (2012) not have ART compilation and Android L is only ART. Not official Android L for N7.
But... the community will bring us Android L
I trust on xda for android L in my nexus :highfive:
Android L developer preview image officially live for "flo" (Nexus 7 2013) here: https://developer.android.com/preview/setup-sdk.html#top
Shall the port begins now?
I think we'll have it, the dev on Google IO session talking about Material Design said they "tested the 60fps performance on the original Nexus 7"
This at least proved they have a L build for us, the matter is will they release it to us.
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If not official I hope devs can come through. I remember honeycomb was being ported to phones so yeah devs here on theses forums are amazing
Don't worry, we'll get it. I asked the Android team during the Android Fireside Chat how L will run on low end devices and they said they began testing and development on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 (2012). So L was actually designed for our tablet and will obviously have an official build! :highfive:
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Don't worry, we'll get it. I asked the Android team during the Android Fireside Chat how L will run on low end devices and they said they began testing and development on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 (2012). So L was actually designed for our tablet and will obviously have an official build! :highfive:
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Great info!
I don't know...the nexus 4 is not even receiving any love and its really a smaller N7 2013.
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I agree that L will make it to our 2012 tablets. We are not dead yet and I'm not upgrading until the new nexus 8 is out myself. Good times! ?
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Think that Nexus 7 (2012) not have ART compilation and Android L is only ART. Not official Android L for N7.
But... the community will bring us Android L
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That's not good news I have an old app that I use every day that hasn't been updated in 3 years and doesn't worth with ART
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Think that Nexus 7 (2012) not have ART compilation and Android L is only ART. Not official Android L for N7.
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It has been proven by several custom ROMs that ART runs on the 2012 Nexus 7. So it's just a matter of Google officially enable ART on the 2012 Nexus 7.
But I actually don't think that we'll get the official L Update. Google wants us to upgrade to the newer N7 or even the rumored Nexus 8.
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Don't worry, we'll get it. I asked the Android team during the Android Fireside Chat how L will run on low end devices and they said they began testing and development on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 (2012). So L was actually designed for our tablet and will obviously have an official build! :highfive:
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This doesn't really mean anything. Google may work with older devices during development to ensure performance and quality of Material on older hardware, but doesn't necessarily mean they will create an official build for consumers.
Having just installed omnirom with it having the ota updates, once android L is officially released, will all nightlies adapt to it on current installs? Or will that be a whole new install? Just curious. Thanks
Without the code handy, it'll be hard to say for sure. I'd hazard a guess and say new Android base, new nightly branch. But that's just a guess.
I agree with you. Because it's a new code, I also think that you'll need the whole new installation after all..
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There's a good chance from a developer standpoint it'll require major rework/rebasing.
From a user standpoint, it SHOULD be feasible to do a straight upgrade without wiping. (Although in the case of features that aren't re-implemented yet when L nightlies start, they'll reset to their defaults when they make it back in.) You will NOT be able to downgrade without wiping or restoring a backup though.
As a historical reference - many of my devices that were running 4.3 Omni were upgraded straight to 4.4, even though we started from scratch with 4.4
Well it's close to nexus6 release... Any news if omnirom will adapt to Lollipop or require a new rom?
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Having just installed omnirom with it having the ota updates, once android L is officially released, will all nightlies adapt to it on current installs? Or will that be a whole new install? Just curious. Thanks
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If you mean "will moving to L require a wipe?" - Only if we screw something up. Android is designed to allow for seamless upgrades from one version to another, in fact, in the commercial world, requiring a wipe to upgrade will render you ineligible for GMS (gapps) licensing I'm fairly certain.
As to "all nightlies" - probably quite a few devices are going to get dropped with L. Almost surely the Exynos 4210 family, good chance quite a few of the Exynos 4412 family (I'd prefer to make it ALL of them tbh, and get that hell platform out of our codebase...), and probably a few other devices.
Other than Exynos4, we won't know until L gets released.
I'm on the sprint galaxy nexus which just recently got support for omnirom. Hopefully it will get L.. It will save me buying the nexus 6 as I will be happy to upgrade and keep my device. Great job/rom.
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...quite a few of the Exynos 4412 family...
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My heart...
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a few of the Exynos 4412 family (I'd prefer to make it ALL of them tbh, and get that hell platform out of our codebase...).
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oh man, I really do hope you guys manage to get L on my Note 2. There's quite a few of us out there, and it would be oh so nice not having to upgrade our hardware.
And are Omni people already working with Android 5.0 or they need to wait for official release?
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And are Omni people already working with Android 5.0 or they need to wait for official release?
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Wait for the code drop to happen. Should not take long.
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Wait for the code drop to happen. Should not take long.
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Unless Google drops source earlier than normal (read: typically not until a few days after the first OTAs go out to Nexus devices), I wouldn't expect work to even start until November. (Since it sounds like the earliest OTAs and devices shipping are going to be November 3, which means that's the earliest possible date to even think about doing work unless Google drops source earlier than they ever have in the history of Android.)
I read somewhere where the api's for 5.1 won't be supported? I hope this isn't true. I'm only seeing mention of n5,6,9 showing build numbers for android 5.1 soon
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I read somewhere where the api's for 5.1 won't be supported? I hope this isn't true. I'm only seeing mention of n5,6,9 showing build numbers for android 5.1 soon
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Note that they're the newer devices. It'll come out for the n4 soon
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You're saying our phone can handle 5.1 improvements?
I think the nexus 4 has quite a bit of life left in it Google would be stupid to cut support now maybe after lollipop they'll cut support like the gnex did with after jellybean but that was a special circumstance that the nexus 4 won't have.
ithink it handles lollipop pretty well