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Hi, I just have a quick question, I have the European Unlocked i9505 which is now rooted and has Philz recovery installed, apart from that it is stock (never had cutom rom installed). I want to put it back to 100% stock, so I was going to use triangle away first of all to reset the knox counter, before un-rooting.
My question is once I have reset the counter, when using Kies to update the phone, do I have to un-root and install stock recovery prior to doing an update through Kies or will the Kies update and reset everything automatically, i.e. will it install stock recovery and remove Root on its own..?
Kies is already saying there is an update ready for the phone, but I don't want to anything until I've checked first..?
Cheers for any advice
Check for your Knox counter in download mode. If it is tripped then you wont get OTA or Kies updates.If u want to get on full stock with stock recovery then u ll hav to flash official firmware from samfirmware through Odin. And last upto my knowledge Triangle away wont reset your Knox counter.
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Mandark52 said:
Check for your Knox counter in download mode. If it is tripped then you wont get OTA or Kies updates.If u want to get on full stock with stock recovery then u ll hav to flash official firmware from samfirmware through Odin. And last upto my knowledge Triangle away wont reset your Knox counter.
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Hi,
I'm confused then, because Kies says that there is an update when the phone is connected via usb..?
In download mode the phone says:
Product Name: i9505
Current Binary: Custom
System Status: Custom
Knox Kernal Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x1
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
Write Protection: Enable
eMMC Burst Mode: Enabled
And Triangle Away reports 'Current Status' as:
Counter: 5
Binary: Custom
Device: GT-i9505
System: Modified
So, surely Keis shouldn't offer an update because KNOX Void Warranty 0×1 and System is Modified or am I missing something..??
Your missing something...
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Your missing something...
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And that is..?
Main Mic Not Working
I'm having a problem with my i9505.
I think my main mic is not working anymore because people can't hear me on regular call but when I switch it to speaker mode the second mic works fine.
I've flashed and reset my phone. And changed the microphone unit including charging port and nothing changed.
what do you suggest me to do?
have you faced such problem with S4?
It is incorrect to say that you won't get an ota with Knox tripped because I had one last week.
Use TA to reset counter then use Odin to flash the latest Stock Rom as identified by Sammoblie. You'll then be official status and the next ota will come automatically
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Painman1963 said:
It is incorrect to say that you won't get an ota with Knox tripped because I had one last week.
Use TA to reset counter then use Odin to flash the latest Stock Rom as identified by Sammoblie. You'll then be official status and the next ota will come automatically
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If u are on custom recovery you wont get OTA/ kies updates. This is what I ve read.
topcat888 said:
Hi, I just have a quick question, I have the European Unlocked i9505 which is now rooted and has Philz recovery installed, apart from that it is stock (never had cutom rom installed). I want to put it back to 100% stock, so I was going to use triangle away first of all to reset the knox counter, before un-rooting.
My question is once I have reset the counter, when using Kies to update the phone, do I have to un-root and install stock recovery prior to doing an update through Kies or will the Kies update and reset everything automatically, i.e. will it install stock recovery and remove Root on its own..?
Kies is already saying there is an update ready for the phone, but I don't want to anything until I've checked first..?
Cheers for any advice
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1. If u update ur phone via KIES it update and reset everything less your KNOX. This mean u will have KNOX 0x1 (void warranty) anyway, ur root will dissapear and ur CUSTOM RECOVERY will be replaced for the STOCK RECOVERY
2. If u have rooted ur phone u can install the updates via KIES. You can DOWNLOAD the updates via OTA too, but for install them u have to go STOCK RECOVERY
3. Steps:
- Use Triangle Away and reset ur flash counter for get Official state
- Go to Kies 3 and update ur phone
- Root it and install custom recovery again when finish the process
- Enjoy
Joku1981 said:
1. If u update ur phone via KIES it update and reset everything less your KNOX. This mean u will have KNOX 0x1 (void warranty) anyway, ur root will dissapear and ur CUSTOM RECOVERY will be replaced for the STOCK RECOVERY
2. If u have rooted ur phone u can install the updates via KIES. You can DOWNLOAD the updates via OTA too, but for install them u have to go STOCK RECOVERY
3. Steps:
- Use Triangle Away and reset ur counter for get Official state
- Go to Kies 3 and update ur phone
- Root it and install custom recovery again when finish the process
- Enjoy
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This is also an accurate way to upate your phone.
However, I have just reread the OP and you are talking about resetting the Knox Counter. This is not possible at present
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Painman1963 said:
This is also an accurate way to upate your phone.
However, I have just reread the OP and you are talking about resetting the Knox Counter. This is not possible at present
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Confused, TA supports and will reset the i9505..?
topcat888 said:
Confused, TA supports and will reset the i9505..?
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It will reset the flash counter but not the Knox counter
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Painman1963 said:
It will reset the flash counter but not the Knox counter
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Ah I see, and it's the flash counter that lets you or stops you downloading OTA updates..?
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Ah I see, and it's the flash counter that lets you or stops you downloading OTA updates..?
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It's the modified status and/or a custom recovery
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Painman1963 said:
It's the modified status and/or a custom recovery
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And it's the modified status will be reset with Triangle Away..?
Painman1963 said:
It's the modified status and/or a custom recovery
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custom recovery will stop Ota updates.
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custom recovery will stop Ota updates.
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That's what I said. Along with custom recovery
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Joku1981 said:
1. If u update ur phone via KIES it update and reset everything less your KNOX. This mean u will have KNOX 0x1 (void warranty) anyway, ur root will dissapear and ur CUSTOM RECOVERY will be replaced for the STOCK RECOVERY
2. If u have rooted ur phone u can install the updates via KIES. You can DOWNLOAD the updates via OTA too, but for install them u have to go STOCK RECOVERY
3. Steps:
- Use Triangle Away and reset ur flash counter for get Official state
- Go to Kies 3 and update ur phone
- Root it and install custom recovery again when finish the process
- Enjoy
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Sorry to keep asking questions, I have done Triangle Away now and the counter is 0 and it is official...
So, do I now have to do a 'Full Unroot' using SuperSU before using Kies to update..?
Or is that step not required, shall I just let Keis do its thing and the update will wipe everything including Root and recovery..??
Or is it better to use Odin to flash the I9505XXUEMKF firmware I have downloaded already..?
Basically, I just want the easiest way to get back to stock...
Thanks again
topcat888 said:
Sorry to keep asking questions, I have done Triangle Away now and the counter is 0 and it is official...
So, do I now have to do a 'Full Unroot' using SuperSU before using Kies to update..?
Or is that step not required, shall I just let Keis do its thing and the update will wipe everything including Root and recovery..??
Or is it better to use Odin to flash the I9505XXUEMKF firmware I have downloaded already..?
Basically, I just want the easiest way to get back to stock...
Thanks again
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Flash through Odin directly no need to unroot. As you are flashing stock it will automatically clear the root. Just follow the correct steps for flashing. All the best.
Mandark52 said:
Flash through Odin directly no need to unroot. As you are flashing stock it will automatically clear the root. Just follow the correct steps for flashing. All the best.
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All done, flashed back to stock BUT one thing I don't understand is that under Settings/More/About Device/Status it states
that the Device Status is still Custom not Official, why would that be.?? because of Knox Warranty Void being 0x1..??
Hi, I would like to ask you guys if the device can be unroot after it has been rooted with Towelroot?
I heard many people said about using SuperSU to remove the root.
However, I am not sure if the unroot process is safe and be able to give me a full warranty back.
Thank you.
minin0la said:
Hi, I would like to ask you guys if the device can be unroot after it has been rooted with Towelroot?
I heard many people said about using SuperSU to remove the root.
However, I am not sure if the unroot process is safe and be able to give me a full warranty back.
Thank you.
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I've unrooted my s5 before and it wasn't hard. Just flash an unroot pda with Odin. Saves all your data. But I think it will trip the Knox counter, so It'll void your warranty. So I'm not 100% sure if you'll be able to keep your warranty
nick.delaserda said:
I've unrooted my s5 before and it wasn't hard. Just flash an unroot pda with Odin. Saves all your data. But I think it will trip the Knox counter, so It'll void your warranty. So I'm not 100% sure if you'll be able to keep your warranty
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Dude, what advice is this? :crying: Flash an unroot PDA? What do you mean with that?. Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom and do a data factory reset. Takes about 5-7 minutes if done correctly.
gee2012 said:
Dude, what advice is this? :crying: Flash an unroot PDA? What do you mean with that?. Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom and do a data factory reset. Takes about 5-7 minutes if done correctly.
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Flash an unroot tar file. That's what I was told. I did it and it worked fine. No more root. But you can unroot with supersu?? I never knew that
gee2012 said:
Dude, what advice is this? :crying: Flash an unroot PDA? What do you mean with that?. Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom and do a data factory reset. Takes about 5-7 minutes if done correctly.
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I unroot my phone with this method:
I go to recovery wipe data and cache and after this flash the stock rom So this method is a correct one or wrong? Thank you
SAMPPLE said:
I unroot my phone with this method:
I go to recovery wipe data and cache and after this flash the stock rom So this method is a correct one or wrong? Thank you
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Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom with Odin and data factory reset afterwards. Thats how i do it.
gee2012 said:
Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom with Odin and data factory reset afterwards. Thats how i do it.
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Aha... Ok Thank you!
gee2012 said:
Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom with Odin and data factory reset afterwards. Thats how i do it.
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Factory Reset after flashing stock ROM? So, factory reset in stock recovery?
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Simone said:
Factory Reset after flashing stock ROM? So, factory reset in stock recovery?
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Or in settings/backup and restore/factory reset
gee2012 said:
Just unroot from within the superSU app, flash a stock rom with Odin and data factory reset afterwards. Thats how i do it.
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Or in settings/backup and restore/factory reset
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I have tried the method and everything works.
My device is now unrooted.
No KNOX trip after flash stock rom with odin.
The device status is official too.
Thanks!
Still a bit confused
Confused is my normal state...
In Super User the only options I have are for OTA survival and for temp unroot.
To unroot would I only need to select the temp unroot option then go into the S5's settings and do a factory reset (under the backup/restore selections) or would I temp unroot with superuser, then go into Odin (on my pc) and flash a factory rom?
With the Odin option of doing this,if it is necessary, where can I get the factory rom for Version's S5 for this process?
I just unrooted using SuperSu's full unroot option and wiped cache from the stock recovery and boom. Worked for me.
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klacenas said:
I just unrooted using SuperSu's full unroot option and wiped cache from the stock recovery and boom. Worked for me.
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Thanks klacenas, Where/how did you wipe the cache "from the stock recovery"? Also as an aside... did this cause you to lose any apps or files (photos, music, txt files type stuff) when you did the unrooting?
Sorry to be a pain.
CallMeTut said:
Thanks klacenas, Where/how did you wipe the cache "from the stock recovery"? Also as an aside... did this cause you to lose any apps or files (photos, music, txt files type stuff) when you did the unrooting?
Sorry to be a pain.
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By Unrooting only, you will not lost any of your personal data that stored on your phone. However when you do factory reset, your personal data that stored on the phone will be lost.
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minin0la said:
I have tried the method and everything works.
My device is now unrooted.
No KNOX trip after flash stock rom with odin.
The device status is official too.
Thanks!
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i unrooted with supersu and tried to use odin and i get a Fail in the top box. and on my phone it says after odin fail:
Product name: SM-G900A
Current Binary: Samsung Official
System Status: Custom
Reactivation Lock[kk]: OFF
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
qualcomm secure: enable [csb]
UDC START
SW REV CHECK FAIL : [ABOUT]Fuse 2 > Binary 1
does any one know what i need to do to get rid the unlock custom when i rebooting my phone?
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i unrooted with supersu and tried to use odin and i get a Fail in the top box. and on my phone it says after odin fail:
Product name: SM-G900A
Current Binary: Samsung Official
System Status: Custom
Reactivation Lock[kk]: OFF
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
qualcomm secure: enable [csb]
UDC START
SW REV CHECK FAIL : [ABOUT]Fuse 2 > Binary 1
does any one know what i need to do to get rid the unlock custom when i rebooting my phone?
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Try a data factory reset and flash the rom again, that should help.
gee2012 said:
Try a data factory reset and flash the rom again, that should help.
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I just tried it same message on my phone and the fail message on odin.
tmadekush said:
I just tried it same message on my phone and the fail message on odin.
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Have you ever flashed a custom recovery, kernel or rom on this device?
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Have you ever flashed a custom recovery, kernel or rom on this device?
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No i didnt think they had any stable kernels or roms and i couldnt find a custom recovery for the att s5. just rooted it with towelroot acoulpe weeks ago. i've been having problems charger the phone and att is sending me another one. thats only reason why im tryin to figure this out. i dont want send this phone back with that custom status and the unlock image on the screen.
tmadekush said:
No i didnt think they had any stable kernels or roms and i couldnt find a custom recovery for the att s5. just rooted it with towelroot acoulpe weeks ago. i've been having problems charger the phone and att is sending me another one. thats only reason why im tryin to figure this out. i dont want send this phone back with that custom status and the unlock image on the screen.
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Don`t realy understand why the status is custom when you unrooted from within the superSU app and did a factory reset after that
Hi,
When towelroot came out I installed it on my note 3 so I could get root without tripping knox. Last night I installed safestrap to get a custom rom without tripping knox, but when I installed alliance rom on rom slot 1 it somehow also installed the TWRP recovery and tripped knox. So now that my warranty is void anyway I was thinking about
installing another rom, just the normal way.
My question is if I should I unroot my phone first and root it the root de la vega method or can I just install whatever rom or recovery I want with my current settings/configuration? Also when I boot my phone into download mode I still get the custom OS warning, I don't know if that's a problem or should I press continue there?
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Marcel94 said:
Hi,
When towelroot came out I installed it on my note 3 so I could get root without tripping knox. Last night I installed safestrap to get a custom rom without tripping knox, but when I installed alliance rom on rom slot 1 it somehow also installed the TWRP recovery and tripped knox. So now that my warranty is void anyway I was thinking about
installing another rom, just the normal way.
My question is if I should I unroot my phone first and root it the root de la vega method or can I just install whatever rom or recovery I want with my current settings/configuration? Also when I boot my phone into download mode I still get the custom OS warning, I don't know if that's a problem or should I press continue there?
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Since you have tripped knox, no worry anymore on warranty. If you plan to flash new rom, you are always advised to have clean installation, meant to clean everything, else you will experience unnecessary problem. To backup your current setting, download titanium backup to make your apps and setting backup. You need to spend some time to familiarize with TB. It is very handy to help u restore previous rom settings and apps.
You do not need to unroot your current rom.
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@Marcel94 :
I have never use safestrap anyway... so I have no idea how it works actually.
But... a clean installation will be good.
Grab latest firmware nd flash through odin, and go to recovery stock and do factory reset.
Then root with cf-autoroot, flash cwm/twrp.
Then flash ur rom.
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Thanks for the advise guys! What do you mean with "go to recovery stock"? Will my recovery be stock again if I flash the latest firmware through odin? Nevermind, I already flashed the stock rom and got stock recovery, thanks!
Hello
Is there a way to downgrade xxugng8 kitkat on i9505, without trigger Knox efuse, to the latest stock Knox enable fw supported by towelroot v3 in order to root my device without void the warranty?
-> which is the latest stock fw/kernel supported by towelroot and is it downloadable in sammobile?
Thanks.
Guillaume
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querty75 said:
Hello
Is there a way to downgrade xxugng8 kitkat on i9505, without trigger Knox efuse, to the latest stock Knox enable fw supported by towelroot v3 in order to root my device without void the warranty?
-> which is the latest stock fw/kernel supported by towelroot and is it downloadable in sammobile?
Thanks.
Guillaume
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You cannot currently downgrade from a knox enabled bootloader to a non knox enabled bootloader.
querty75 said:
Hello
Is there a way to downgrade xxugng8 kitkat on i9505, without trigger Knox efuse, to the latest stock Knox enable fw supported by towelroot v3 in order to root my device without void the warranty?
-> which is the latest stock fw/kernel supported by towelroot and is it downloadable in sammobile?
Thanks.
Guillaume
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Yes, it's possible. You can downgrade to NF1 and then user Towelroot.
Our you use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/root-how-to-obtain-root-permissions-t2862768
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DarkerTimes said:
Yes, it's possible. You can downgrade to NF1 and then user Towelroot.
Our you use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/root-how-to-obtain-root-permissions-t2862768
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Thank you so much!!!!!
You're the best! :good::good::good:
Root keeped after factory reset
DarkerTimes said:
Yes, it's possible. You can downgrade to NF1 and then user Towelroot.
Our you use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/root-how-to-obtain-root-permissions-t2862768
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I followed this method and it's worked well.
I did a factory reset because my phone became not stable with time - probably because I froze too many Knox app. or install some app. I shouldn't not - and I was very surprised to constate that my phone was kept rooted.
I don't understand why. A factory reset doesn't reset the kernel at well?
Also I wanted to dd my /data, and for this I needed to umount it. When I booted in recovery mode, adb seemed not to run... I tried Odin mode too but looks the same, adb launched on my PC didn't see my device.
Of course I checked everythings and adb does work well when the phone is fully booted.
The stock recovery doesn't allow to make system/data backup... - no menu items - is this normal?
I cannot flash any custom recovery because I want my Knox remains 0x0.
Thanks for your comments,
gb
gballet said:
I followed this method and it's worked well.
I did a factory reset because my phone became not stable with time - probably because I froze too many Knox app. or install some app. I shouldn't not - and I was very surprised to constate that my phone was kept rooted.
I don't understand why. A factory reset doesn't reset the kernel at well?
Also I wanted to dd my /data, and for this I needed to umount it. When I booted in recovery mode, adb seemed not to run... I tried Odin mode too but looks the same, adb launched on my PC didn't see my device.
Of course I checked everythings and adb does work well when the phone is fully booted.
The stock recovery doesn't allow to make system/data backup... - no menu items - is this normal?
I cannot flash any custom recovery because I want my Knox remains 0x0.
Thanks for your comments,
gb
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Yes with a stock recovery your aren't able to make a complete system backup. And flashing a custom recovery will trip the Knox counter.
I don't deal with ADB, i can't help you with this, sorry.
No, a factory reset doesn't wipe kernel this would be very bad.
You have to delete every Knox app because they might cause reboots to your device.
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DarkerTimes said:
Yes with a stock recovery your aren't able to make a complete system backup. And flashing a custom recovery will trip the Knox counter.
I don't deal with ADB, i can't help you with this, sorry.
No, a factory reset doesn't wipe kernel this would be very bad.
You have to delete every Knox app because they might cause reboots to your device.
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Hello DarkTimes,
Thank you for your answering.
I don't know if deleting Knox app. cause reboots of device but freezing them for sure does!
For now, Knox doesn't have admin rights and doesn't bother me so I leave it untouched on my device...
I prefer to not attempt to delete them... because my phone seems quite stable after my factory reset...
Regards
gballet said:
Hello DarkTimes,
Thank you for your answering.
I don't know if deleting Knox app. cause reboots of device but freezing them for sure does!
For now, Knox doesn't have admin rights and doesn't bother me so I leave it untouched on my device...
I prefer to not attempt to delete them... because my phone seems quite stable after my factory reset...
Regards
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Fine, yes if everything is all right don't touch it. Sounds good. [emoji106]
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Hi guys
I rooted my device a few days ago then I unrooted it today and I found that can't still receive updates so if I restored it with the factory reset will it return to official or should I flash a new frimware ?
and thx
angelboy997 said:
Hi guys
I rooted my device a few days ago then I unrooted it today and I found that can't still receive updates so if I restored it with the factory reset will it return to official or should I flash a new frimware ?
and thx
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I would recommend a clean install, if you have a custom recovery installed then wipe /System /Data /Cache /DalvikCache /AndroidSecure and /InternalStorage (Will wipe everything on the phone)
Then turn your device off and then manually boot into Download Mode (Volume Down + Home while powering on)
Then flash stock firmware via Odin for your region.
You should have the cleanest firmware you can have apart from the Knox Warranty which will remain tripped.
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Battlehero said:
I would recommend a clean install, if you have a custom recovery installed then wipe /System /Data /Cache /DalvikCache /AndroidSecure and /InternalStorage (Will wipe everything on the phone)
Then turn your device off and then manually boot into Download Mode (Volume Down + Home while powering on)
Then flash stock firmware via Odin for your region.
You should have the cleanest firmware you can have apart from the Knox Warranty which will remain tripped.
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can I do some thing to reset the counter to 0 and have the warranty back ?
angelboy997 said:
can I do some thing to reset the counter to 0 and have the warranty back ?
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KNOX counter can not be reset, Most Samsung service centre's will not really care about the counter but they may do so. I had my phone repaired twice both with knox tripped.