[Q] Replacement battery problems - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I've had my Nexus 4 for about a year, never had any problems, except a week ago when I dropped it in a Scottish river.
It was in the water for about 10 seconds, I was about to shut it down but the screen flickered and shut off itself, upon getting home I tore it down and put it in rice for a week like a good boy.
After which, the battery was screwed, from what Googling told me about a solid red notification light when plugged in, so I ordered a new OEM battery, put it in today, and it doesn't appear to want to charge.
I'm aware of batteries being too flat etc, I left it plugged in for about 4 hours, tried various button combination tricks, some give me the solid red light, some give me the flashing red light, which it didn't do before I changed the battery so that seems like progress.
Is something else in the phone screwed or am I doing it wrong?

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universal dead?? HELP red light!!!!

Hello, earlier today i felt the device was very warm, i tried to switch it on but it dint respond, even to a reset. when i plugged it into the wall charger all i get is the right hand LED glowing red.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!! how do i hard reset it or get it to work again!!!!!!
i would call in orange care, but im out of the country and i really need the pda functionality!!!!
Unlucky. The 'red' light on most HTC devices indicates a serious power problem, usually it means that the battery is dead (as opposed to simply having run out of charge) or very close to death. You can probably get it working again with a new battery, if the incident hasn't damaged any other components.
i had this with my JJ after I accidently let the battery run down, I plugged it in and led went red and unit would not power on, left it plugged in started scanning the manual and web about a red led, 30 mins later, JJ just switched on and all fine.
It's worth a go and ive not had problem since
i dont think that was the case...
i have a feeling it might have been a short or something, because the unit was SERIOUSLY hot.....
nothing i did worked....until............
final time before giving up, the light was still red etc.
i figured what the heck, either way its dead and im going to get a replacement.
i then gave it fairly hard thump
the red light disappeared. i thought to myself, oh crap, i've really killed it.
then i reset it............. IT BOOTED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and all my info still intact......brilliant.....im still going to try and get a replacement when i get back, but thank goodness.
and here i was thinking the last computer to respond to physical violence was the old 486'es hehehehehe
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and here i was thinking the last computer to respond to physical violence was the old 486'es hehehehehe
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Actually, it's called percussive maintenance, "the fine art of whacking a machine till it works"
hehe, i'm an IT technician and it's the first thing i try, especially with Printers.....
They don't teach you that on MSCA courses.....
I would recommend not using the machine too much until you can get a replacement battery if I were you. Lithium batteries will get very very hot (in some cases expand and ignite) if they are dis-charged too far. Most equipment which uses lithium technologies will have a voltage cut-off on the power input. As each cell is a nominal 3.3V-3.6V, this is often at around 3V in order to not discharge the battery too far. I would have hoped that this was a HARDWARE function rather than software. However with what you have described, if the voltage cutout was somehow disabled, then this could explain the problems.
Of the units that I have seen in the past like this, the red LED would describe the battery voltage being too low to safely power the unit (i.e. battery be dead). Generally a couple of minutes charge will bring it up to a safe working value. However, after 30 minutes this certainly should have been enough. On one of my motorola units, the battery has expanded a couple of millimeters as it starts to dissociate. It may be worth you checking to see whether the battery in your universal has distorted in any way.
Hmm the red light comes on mine all the time.
It just means the battery is low and the unit is charging. .
It should turn green when the battery is at or near optimum charge.
no....thats not the red, charging is orangy when i say red i mean PROPER red. battery is not distorted, and to the best of my knowledge the unit had a good charge, im pretty sure it must have been some kind of hardware short, and am going to call orange as soon as im back in the country.
dosent explain though why when i whacked it it started working again. the whack instantly made the light go out :wink:
i did a battery rundown test as soon as i got the unit, and posted the results on the forum, if the cut off was not working, i would have ended up with a red light then.
i dont have the manual with me now, but is there any documentation on the red light?
Found this site which had an online manual:
http://www.rich-michael.com/pdf/User Manuals/050802_Universal_Generic_Manual_English_CDL.pdf
What does the phone say in the Power Tab?
A really useful extract:
13 Notification LED Bi-color LED on the right side: Green and Orange
for GSM/WCDMA standby, SMS message, GSM/
WCDMA network status, notification, battery charging
status.
Bi-color LED on the left side: Blue andGreen for
Bluetooth system notification of powered-up and
ready to transmit radio frequency signal, and Wi-Fi
status.
Couldn't find anything else on the LEDs
Found this site which had an online manual:
http://www.rich-michael.com/pdf/User Manuals/050802_Universal_Generic_Manual_English_CDL.pdf
What does the phone say in the Power Tab?
A really useful extract:
13 Notification LED Bi-color LED on the right side: Green and Orange
for GSM/WCDMA standby, SMS message, GSM/
WCDMA network status, notification, battery charging
status.
Bi-color LED on the left side: Blue andGreen for
Bluetooth system notification of powered-up and
ready to transmit radio frequency signal, and Wi-Fi
status.
Couldn't find anything else on the LEDs
Sorry to drag up this old post.
My friend dropped my phone (Orange SPV C500) a few days ago on to a tiled floor. The phone didn't appear to be broken or faulty at all at the time. I even managed to use TomTom navigator to go to the airport, but for some reason when I looked at it before I went to sleep, the phone was off. I assumed the battery had gone (even though it should have lasted at least another day). I tried to plug in the mains charger, but the LED showed a red light. I left it plugged in while I slept, but it was the same in the morning. The phone won't power on at all. I've read that this normally happens on a flat battery, but I am pretty sure it still had juice for another day.
I brought a new battery, but to no avail, the phone still shows the red light when plugged into the mains. No light at all when plugged via USB to my computer. The phone won't power on at all.
It must have broke something when it was dropped. But I'm confused as to why it took a few hours to take any effect.
I also notice that even without the battery in the phone, the LED will still light up as red when plugged in to the mains.
I've tried whacking the phone now, but nothing. Anyone have any idea whether it can be fixed?
JOEJOETHEJOEY said:
Sorry to drag up this old post.
My friend dropped my phone (Orange SPV C500) a few days ago on to a tiled floor. The phone didn't appear to be broken or faulty at all at the time. I even managed to use TomTom navigator to go to the airport, but for some reason when I looked at it before I went to sleep, the phone was off. I assumed the battery had gone (even though it should have lasted at least another day). I tried to plug in the mains charger, but the LED showed a red light. I left it plugged in while I slept, but it was the same in the morning. The phone won't power on at all. I've read that this normally happens on a flat battery, but I am pretty sure it still had juice for another day.
I brought a new battery, but to no avail, the phone still shows the red light when plugged into the mains. No light at all when plugged via USB to my computer. The phone won't power on at all.
It must have broke something when it was dropped. But I'm confused as to why it took a few hours to take any effect.
I also notice that even without the battery in the phone, the LED will still light up as red when plugged in to the mains.
I've tried whacking the phone now, but nothing. Anyone have any idea whether it can be fixed?
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this is damn scary! Every day more people add on to the "my univ's gone dead after a small drop" community :?
When my univ was brand new, a friend of mine dropped it from a coffee bar table 3 feet high, and i still heave a sigh! Cant believe nothing happened...!
But one thing i guess we all know, its a "drop" away to kiss our device good bye :roll:
hope you get it back up and running m8! look around the forums, there are lots of breakdown-solutions threads...
cheers,
San
nice work afhstingray
do you think it was a baterry problem.
i have often used my battery till tit just ran out, from what i read in the post it seems to be a bad practice. anyway to turn off the phone
i doubt it was a battery problem as i've been using it until now without problems. (i didnt get a replacement as soon as i got back cos im waiting for this unit to get a bit scruffy before i get it replaced)
i had this once on my c500 as well, but taking out the battery for an hour did the trick. so i dont think the problem is related.
i've dropped my universal quite a few times already and im happy to say other than a few annoying dings on the metal plate with the orange logo, its working fine. and 2 of the drops were pretty bad ones too, i thought for sure the screen would die or crack. guess i got lucky and it hit the floor at an angle not too critical
total stab in the dark but maybe a broken connection on charging circuit? that could be why phone was ok then battery died and its now unable to charge?
ViaraiX said:
total stab in the dark but maybe a broken connection on charging circuit? that could be why phone was ok then battery died and its now unable to charge?
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wouldnt it have worked if it was plugged into the AC then?
Well my Exec was dropped onto concrete at the petrol station whilst I was trying to sort out TomTom and fill up my Yamaha R6 bike at the same time :roll:
No problems, just a couple of case marks.
I guess multitasking should be left to the ladies and computers :lol:
steverae said:
hehe, i'm an IT technician and it's the first thing i try, especially with Printers.....
They don't teach you that on MSCA courses.....
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Also explains why Servers are built so solidly.
When you are trying to recover a server at 2am in the morning they need to stand up to all but a sledgehammer :twisted:

[Q] Fixed (not blinking) red light after changing battery

Hi everyone,
a friend of mine's Nexus 4 has this strange behavior.
It went into water for about 1 second: unfortunately, she was working far from home and needed to keep the phone on for working reasons, I know and told her that the best would have been to switch it off and put in a bag of rice.
In any case, after few minutes where she was not able to listen to the people speaking, and the same on the other side (she was not listened), she kept the phone in a pocket and under the sun, and suddenly everything went fine: probably some water in the audio jack made the phone think the earplugs were plugged, and then this was fixed.
In the rest of the day everything was working, and we thought that, thanks to the hot day and the phone under the sun, the humidity has dried up.
At night when she came back home, she switched the phone off and put in the rice for the night.
The day after, she tried to switch the phone on, and nothing happend.
Screen black, no signals.
After reading something on the internet, she plugged the charger, and kept power+volume down buttons pushed: after some time, the red light appears, just one fast blink and then dark again.
So, we ordered a replacement battery (I have already substituted a Nexus 4 battery of another friend of mine), which arrived yesterday. I proceeded with the substitution, everything went fine (and I noticed that the internal water detectors are still perfect white, only the one in the sim tray is pink), but when I plugged the usb charger, again nothing happened. This time, holding power+volume down made the red light appear and stay solid, no blinking, no disappearing, until I unplug the phone, at that moment it disappears.
I let her charge the phone for the whole night, but still the same issue this morning.
What can the problem be?
It sounds strange to me that at first the phone worked and then it stopped at the first switch off (and I think that she powered off and on the phone right after the incident, and was still working) :-\
And I'm not able to understand the red light behavior...can someone help please?
Many many thanks :-[

[Q] S5 balck screen after dropped in water (Phone seem to start)

Hi All,
I dropped my Samsung s5 (rooted) phone in water.
Before it went submerged(not more than couple of seconds) it hit the side of the sink.
I quickly took it out and looked for visible signs of broken screen or any other part. But there were no new marks, I wiped it clean, turned it off, took the battery out and looked for any water, but nowhere I could see any water inside or outside.
I then turned on the phone, It turned on all the way to homes screen , I entered pin and could view regular home tab, then I think after few seconds, screen went black. I turned it off and tried it on again but it never came back. Once in between in all of my attempts of turn off and restart, it showed battery and yellow triangle on top of battery sign.
I have tried to search and it seems like lots of people ended up with similar symptoms in their phone, but none of the solutions suggested have worked for me.
What I have tried is:
1. Leave phone submerged in a pot of uncooked rice for couple of nights
2. Take out battery and press power button for x number of seconds (starting from 10 to onwards of 2 minutes)
3. leave batter out and then try to restart (again time was variable from few minutes to several hours)
4. Soft hit on power button,
5. I might have overlooked writing a solution here but I wonder if there is any that was suggested that I have not tried.
Initially when this happened, I connected it to charging cable and red light would start blinking(where as it should stay solid red while being charged).
Anyways, now phone screen is dark. I can use adb shell to view the content on the phone which means OS is till intact and I am 100% sure that phone is working as intended. As the notification lights blink when I get an email if phone is on etc.
Its an expansive phone and hope some one can shed light on how to revive the dead screen?
Thanks
Sorry to hear that! It really sucks. Was the charging port loose or opened when dropped in the sink?
I know the blinking red light, instead of the solid red light, when charger is connected indicates a problem with charging. This can be caused when there is little water in or around the charging board or the motherboard and charger is connected.
If you don't see any signs of water damage (pink/red indicators instead of white), i'd say back up all your files and everything else through ADB, wipe the phone clean, in case you find somewhere to service or in case it gets worse and you can't access your files any more.
Chat with a Samsung rep online too, and see what your options are. Sometimes they repair it for ~$70, off warranty, and with that they might even swap the motherboard and other pieces too if needed and you only paid 70 or whatever they offer.
Thanks for reply, now charging port was shut...and after couple of days now charging happens ok, I have a solid green light when I connect charger.
So I am guessing you are thinking that either screen is gone or something else and therefore no possible way to fix this?

Battery or Mobo, opinion please!!

Replaced the LCD full screen assembly on my LG G2, all went smooth following a YT video couldn't really have gone wrong,
Switched phone on and battery displayed 0% for several minutes, eventually getting to 2% when I turned it on, all was still OK, however it dropped to 0% within a few minutes even while still plugged in,
Then it was completely dead, no charge light and couldn't turn on,
Removed all of the components again from inside of phone and rechecked all of the connections, again all OK, this time it cam on again!! 0% charging, so I left it charging waiting as long as poss, 45% it was at when I checked but left it while I was sleeping,
Woke up this morning to phone completely dead, cant power on and no charge light showing
Am I wasting my time buying a new battery? could this be another component? LCD?
Appreciate any help,
Thanks
Lee
have now disassembled and re-assembled a further twice and now it does not power on at all
no red flashing light and nothing on display
I've got a similar problem. Did you find out anything? Bought a replacement screen from ebay, and was really confident I could do this, since I earlier replaced the usb charging port with no issues. Of course the battery was discharged completely before this, but I charged the phone and it worked a week ago (which resulted in an annoying alarm that I was unable to shut off because of the broken screen). So after replacing the screen, I plugged it in and turned it on before putting on the back cover. At first it vibrated and I could see the backlight turning on. Then I could see the red led, and thought it was charging, but then the led started to cycle between different colors. I was not able to get a picture on the screen. I then plugged it out and put on the back cover, in case that was needed (didn't seem so from the yt video I used). After that, nothing. Not even a LED. And the phone didn't get any hot like it does when charging/working. It did somewhat get a bit hot the first time.
My first suspect was the battery. It did take some wiggling and force/heat to remove it‚ and it did kind of bend at the edges, but not very much. Any ideas?

Phone Doesn't Recognize Battery(?) Dead.

I have exhausted all of the options I know to do, so I have come to you for other opinions.
My 4 month old Nexus 6P (on Marshmallow) has seemingly died. Yesterday it went from about 50-60% battery life, then the next time I checked it it was off and would not turn back on.
What can it do? On AC Power:
Shows Charging screen (white battery on black)
Will boot as far as 4 Google dots screen, vibrate, then bootloop (usually just goes as far as Google Screen)
Can access & navigate bootloader screen
Can run TWRP (unencrypt drive, and full touch screen capabilities)
TWRP initially says battery 50% then changes to 0% (does the same thing with battery removed)
Immediately turns off when unplugged
Powered from USB port:
red blinking led
Originally I thought it could have been due to being in my pocket during a bit of rain and it happened to get moist. (Moist, as in less water in/on it than my morning shower gets on it.) So I immediately place it in a sealed bag of silica gel for about 15 hours and tested it in the morning with the same results.
Today, having to switched to an old iPhone 5, I grew desperate. I have:
Taken the phone apart (without breaking the rear glass panel - one good thing) and pulled the battery.
Saw no obvious signs of liquid anywhere
Tested battery with multi-meter (reads 4volts)
Unplugged all ribbon cables, cleaned contacts with isopropyl
Cleaned top of mobo, doughter board, any open contacts.
Blow dried all the alcohol/water away
Battery in or out, my results have not changed since yesterday when it all first began. After reading about others with the 6P having mobo and battery issues I believe the rain is simply a red herring. I have ordered a new battery which will be in next week. I have not ruled the motherboard as not the problem yet, but just seems strange to have TWRP work seemingly without issues if that was it. Otherwise I have no options. I bought it at BestBuy, and I am of course rooted, so cannot send it in to Huawei (unless i can re-lock boot loader and hide signs of opening?)
I can not stand this iPhone, any ideas I will gladly attempt. Let me know If I have left out any information.
Thanks guys/gals.
Adam
Edited to make clarifications.
Water Damage(?)
For anyone curious or following, I removed the motherboard and components completely and did see signs of water. There was some corrosion around the front facing cameras and around the CPU (it appears water got in from sim card tray). Soaking the entire board in alcohol did not fix the issue. I have bought a new motherboard which hopefully will do the trick.
I'll update when its all said and done if forum is still open.
Adam

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