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Anyone using ANT+?

I'm getting my x8 delivered this week and I am looking to buy a heartrate chest strap. Any suggestions of compatible ones?
As far as apps go googles mytracks seems capable. I wonder if it's possible to "divide" my running track into sections to compare each sections heartrate and speed to previous runs.
I'm curious hearing any experinces using ant+, like batterylife, ease of use, favorite apps and so on!
Sinceraly
Adam

garmin should be fine
I just tested the X8 with a garmin heartrate chest trap and with the footpod.
both device were recognized and worked.
I use the demoapplication provided by "thisisant" website. I'll try with "endomondo"
to see if everything is recorded.

Ant+ on GingerDX v024
I just rooted my wife's X8 E15A with Flashtool, left the kernel stock, and switched the ROM to GingerDX v024. I noticed that you can install the Ant program from the Play Store, but Ant+ won't actually work in programs like MapMyRun or Google My Tracks.
I'm loving everything else about the ROM, but am looking to switch to a different one that keeps Ant+ support working.
On my stock XPERIA Arc S the Ant+ works great with MapMyRun. It picks up my Garmin heartrate strap and my Garmin Speed/Cadence sensor on the bike.

[Q] Someone succesfully using polar wearlink bluetooth ?

Hi,
past week, I bought myselfs a Polar WearLink®+ transmitter with Bluetooth® .
I can succesfully pare it with my phone, but when I start running with Runkeeper I get a flat line at 110BPM for the entire workout.
Already googled a bit, and found out that I wasn't the onley one with this problem:
http://support.runkeeper.com/discussions/runkeeper-mobile-apps/21-heart-rate-problem
but haven't found a solution, so I was woundering if somebody here was able to succesfully use this Polar transmitter, ...
With a quick test, I think the app "Sports Tracker" will work, but if there are people here using this transmitter, with what app do you use it and what android version ( I'm currently at ICS Aurora 2.0 )
Thanks for your help!
Edit: tested with Sports Tracker instead of Runkeeper and seems to be working on ICS Aurora 2.04

[Q] Polar H7 & 4.3

HI All,
My Nexus 4 was ota to 4.3 last night. This morning I have been trying to get my H7 to pair via bluetooth, given that both the Nexus 4 and H7 support Bluetooth Smart.
Has anyone managed to pair their H7's over bluetooth? If so what did you do and which app did you use.
I think that the H7 is working as it's sending a t31 signal to my polar f6 watch, so i'm assuming that the bluetooth is also switched on, however I no way to verify this, as i don't have another bluetooth smart receiver to check it with.
Thanks
Satpal

Polar H7 can get paired with android 4.3
schander said:
HI All,
My Nexus 4 was ota to 4.3 last night. This morning I have been trying to get my H7 to pair via bluetooth, given that both the Nexus 4 and H7 support Bluetooth Smart.
Has anyone managed to pair their H7's over bluetooth? If so what did you do and which app did you use.
I think that the H7 is working as it's sending a t31 signal to my polar f6 watch, so i'm assuming that the bluetooth is also switched on, however I no way to verify this, as i don't have another bluetooth smart receiver to check it with.
Thanks
Satpal
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I just have tried it also without success. But just take the battery of the H7 short out and you will be able after inserting the battery to get paired. So hardware works fine now, but apps aren´t working yet: edemondo pro, runtastic pro. Does somebody have already an app that works?

Same here. I was able to pair after removing the H7 battery and inserting again but is not showing my heart rate.
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Same here!
My N4 is able to pair with the H7, but apps don't show my heart rate..

Hi,
I also tried this and my Nexus 4 was unable to find the H& in the BT pairing menu.
I realised yesterday that my wifes S3 also support BT smart, via smasungs own bt stack. I tried to pair via the normal BT menu but failed. However I download an app called NRF (by Nordic Semi) and managed to pair the device directly from there, so atleast i know that my H7 works. I guess it just matter of time before support is introduced by the various apps.
I wonder if manufacturers like Samsung will provide wrappers for the own BT Smart api's to conform with the Android API v18 (the one with BT Smart)
Thanks
Satpal

HI
i tried yesteday to connect the Polar H6 to the Nexus4 using Runtastic app. Didn´t had success i tried to reboot the phone and also released the battery of the polar sensor.
Do you know if there´s other software which i can use to pair them? Or how bluetoot smart pairing works in general?

I am also unable to pair my Bluetooth Smart heart rate monitor to my Nexus 4.
I am using a 60beat Blue and the device is not detected in either the Bluetooth settings menu or the Runtastic PRO V4.0 App.
When I try and connect to a app 'nRF HRM Demo' (the app 60beat support directed me too to test if the device worked) I get a message pop up "Bluetooth Low Energy isn't supported by your phone " Could other users try this app and let me know if they get the same message before I reply to 60beat?
I am running Android 4.3 (stock factory image and I am not rooted) JWR66V
I am waiting for a reply from Runtastic support to see if this device is compatible with their APP.
I do know my heart rate monitor uses the Transmission frequency of 2.4 GHz maybe this is the problem.
I will reply again once I receive a response from Runtastic as I requested a list of compatible hardware.
It does seem strange that I am unable to find much information about this new feature and how to test it.
FIngers crossed we will be able to definitive rundown of what works and does not work on both the Nexus 4 and Android 4.3

After having no luck getting a response out of Runtastic I have finally found an App in the store that reads my 60beat cheststrap (released today);
I am unable to post a link to the Play store but search for BLE Heart Rate Monitor
My device still does not show up in the setting menu but at least I know that 4.3 is working with BLE and it's Runtastic's fault that my monitor does not pair with it's APP.
I will reply again once I hear back from Runtastic with there response to this issue.
Let me know if anyone finds any other apps that work with their devices.

Dichdude said:
After having no luck getting a response out of Runtastic I have finally found an App in the store that reads my 60beat cheststrap (released today);
I am unable to post a link to the Play store but search for BLE Heart Rate Monitor
My device still does not show up in the setting menu but at least I know that 4.3 is working with BLE and it's Runtastic's fault that my monitor does not pair with it's APP.
I will reply again once I hear back from Runtastic with there response to this issue.
Let me know if anyone finds any other apps that work with their devices.
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Thanks for that Info with BLE
Will try it also and report if its also working for me

Sirbubu said:
Thanks for that Info with BLE
Will try it also and report if its also working for me
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Tested it out BLE is also working for me so its really a Runtastic issue.
I will also write them.

Sirbubu said:
Tested it out BLE is also working for me so its really a Runtastic issue.
I will also write them.
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Got a response from Runtastic via Twitter;
"@Runtastic Why do you lock out the use of other BLE HRM from you Android Platform, I thought the point of BLE was for easy implementation?
@Dichdude From now we don't offer support for third-party hardware anymore. Thanks for understanding."
To sum it up Runtastic will only work with there own BLE heart rate monitor. I did reply asking them why and that it looks like a money grab but they have not responded to that question (suprise), so it looks like we will have to wait for other Dev's to implement Smart BT.

We just have to wait for developers to update their apps to be able to make use of BLE. The internal libraries don't yet support that protocol even though the phone does. I'm sure it won't be that long until apps updates start rolling out for the more popular apps. Unfortunetly there is only the one app (BLE HRM that a few have mentioned) that works. Considering 4.3 was released/announced less then 2 weeks ago, we should give the developers some time to get that update out before we start to fully complain.

Sirbubu said:
Tested it out BLE is also working for me so its really a Runtastic issue.
I will also write them.
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I got an H7 today and downloaded BLE Heart Monitor. As soon as I started scanning I got it in the list of devices. I was able to connect and it seemed pretty accurate. However, I'm not able to connect again and it's not even detected as a device. I tried taking out the battery, re-booting the phone but nothing seems to work. Anything else I can try to get this to connect again with my Nexus 4?

Runtastic says they will only support their Runtastic-branded Bluetooth Smart HRM chest strap. I'm still waiting on Endomondo & RunKeeper to respond to my inquiries. The best thing to do is keep hounding them.

Confirmed working Polar h7 - at least in a basic app that was just updated today.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

jawz101 said:
Confirmed working Polar h7 - at least in a basic app that was just updated today.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
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Just wondering, can you pair the h7 every time? I can do it once, get to the heart rate screen, see my heart rate but if I close the app it will no longer pair with the H7. It will show it in the list of devices but will hang on the "Connecting" screen. After this I have to clear the data for the app and take out the battery of the H7 to get them to pair again.
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I'll check when I get back home.

I tested for a little while tonight. Doesn't seem to handle a reboot nor temporary disconnection. I'd hope it would reconnect if I toggle the Bluetooth radio for a moment. In the event of temporary loss of signal I had to stop the app in android settings and once I restarted the app it would recognize the monitor once more.
My concern with all of that is my phone could reboot for whatever reason mid-run and I'd have to mess with whatever running app again. I'm usually listening to Stitcher radio and using whatever running app in places where phone signal isn't always great. That combination seems to cause my phone to restart on rare occasion which already annoys me so I'd expect reliability.

So I confirmed that turning Bluetooth off and on will resolve the connection issue, it's able to re-connect everytime. I did a ride today running both BLE Heart Monitor and RunKeeper and I had a stable connection throughout. At the end I just entered the average heart rate in RunKeeper. I really wish RunKeeper would release an update already or at least provide an ETA!

You're saying runkeeper saw it? Nm. I just read it

Bluetooth 4.0 (BLE) Support on the Note 3

Hi all,
After doing some research on BLE support for Android, I'm somewhat disappointed by the apparent lack of commitment on both Google and Samsung's part to get this sorted out properly, especially given the fact that they advertise BLE support on the product's packaging. By "properly" I mean the ability to find and pair with devices using the device's native Bluetooth Settings menu, not varying support from app to app. There seems to be a bit of information floating around for Nexus and Galaxy S3 devices, but none for the Note 3 - which prompted me to start this thread.
I have a BLE Heart Rate Monitor (Mio Alpha Pro strapless HRM watch) which I have been using to test functionality with my stock, unrooted Galaxy Note 3. Here is a summary of what I've discovered so far:
The Galaxy Note 3 does not find the HRM using the system Bluetooth scan feature,
Samsung's built in "S Health" app does not find/connect to the HRM.
The "BLE Heart Rate Monitor" app in the Play Store finds/connects to the watch fine and receives the HR signal, all without changing the Bluetooth icon's connection status in the notification bar.
Runtastic is the only fitness tracking app that finds and connects to the HRM, with no issue, straight from the app store. Endomondo, Runkeeper, MapMyRun etc have all failed to find and connect to the HRM
xda user dimfish has posted this thread in the Android Software and Hacking General forum, it's a mod that enables BLE conectivity for Fitbit (I am yet to test this, but replies suggest that is working on all 4.3 ROMs).
Given the fact that BLE connectivity works fine on Runtastic (and now Fitbit, with the mod), I am hopeful that native support for all hardware capable Android devices isn't too far away. In the meantime, please share what your thought's experiences are.
Cheers,
BT

bobbytod said:
Hi all,
After doing some research on BLE support for Android, I'm somewhat disappointed by the apparent lack of commitment on both Google and Samsung's part to get this sorted out properly, especially given the fact that they advertise BLE support on the product's packaging. By "properly" I mean the ability to find and pair with devices using the device's native Bluetooth Settings menu, not varying support from app to app. There seems to be a bit of information floating around for Nexus and Galaxy S3 devices, but none for the Note 3 - which prompted me to start this thread.
I have a BLE Heart Rate Monitor (Mio Alpha Pro strapless HRM watch) which I have been using to test functionality with my stock, unrooted Galaxy Note 3. Here is a summary of what I've discovered so far:
The Galaxy Note 3 does not find the HRM using the system Bluetooth scan feature,
Samsung's built in "S Health" app does not find/connect to the HRM.
The "BLE Heart Rate Monitor" app in the Play Store finds/connects to the watch fine and receives the HR signal, all without changing the Bluetooth icon's connection status in the notification bar.
Runtastic is the only fitness tracking app that finds and connects to the HRM, with no issue, straight from the app store. Endomondo, Runkeeper, MapMyRun etc have all failed to find and connect to the HRM
xda user dimfish has posted this thread in the Android Software and Hacking General forum, it's a mod that enables BLE conectivity for Fitbit (I am yet to test this, but replies suggest that is working on all 4.3 ROMs).
Given the fact that BLE connectivity works fine on Runtastic (and now Fitbit, with the mod), I am hopeful that native support for all hardware capable Android devices isn't too far away. In the meantime, please share what your thought's experiences are.
Cheers,
BT
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up!
no news from app vendors in terms of adding BLE support. Don't much understand why it should be that difficult now that the android 4.3 OS does add support for it. So from the app standpoint it should be quite straight fwd!

It looks like Samsung is backing Ant+ rather than BLE somewhat.
The good news for us competitive cyclists that use Garmin products (Garmin owns Ant+), the Note 3 now ties-in with our heart rate monitors and power meters.
While I don't see me strapping the Note 3 to the handlebars, it can stay in my jersey and record the data.

peakjunkie said:
It looks like Samsung is backing Ant+ rather than BLE somewhat.
The good news for us competitive cyclists that use Garmin products (Garmin owns Ant+), the Note 3 now ties-in with our heart rate monitors and power meters.
While I don't see me strapping the Note 3 to the handlebars, it can stay in my jersey and record the data.
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From a developer point of view, the ANT+ API is much, much simpler to implement than the BLE API. The ANT+ API already handles device discovery and decoding of data events from sensors into the useful data without even reading the Device Profile. You just request access to heart rate, cadence, etc, and then subscribe to the event handlers which pass the data to you decoded. The BLE API still requires a lot of work to do the decoding properly, handling characteristics, etc
BLE
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/bluetooth-le.html
ANT+
http://www.thisisant.com/APIassets/.../plugins/antplus/pcc/AntPlusHeartRatePcc.html

Any update
bobbytod said:
Hi all,
After doing some research on BLE support for Android, I'm somewhat disappointed by the apparent lack of commitment on both Google and Samsung's part to get this sorted out properly, especially given the fact that they advertise BLE support on the product's packaging. By "properly" I mean the ability to find and pair with devices using the device's native Bluetooth Settings menu, not varying support from app to app. There seems to be a bit of information floating around for Nexus and Galaxy S3 devices, but none for the Note 3 - which prompted me to start this thread.
I have a BLE Heart Rate Monitor (Mio Alpha Pro strapless HRM watch) which I have been using to test functionality with my stock, unrooted Galaxy Note 3. Here is a summary of what I've discovered so far:
The Galaxy Note 3 does not find the HRM using the system Bluetooth scan feature,
Samsung's built in "S Health" app does not find/connect to the HRM.
The "BLE Heart Rate Monitor" app in the Play Store finds/connects to the watch fine and receives the HR signal, all without changing the Bluetooth icon's connection status in the notification bar.
Runtastic is the only fitness tracking app that finds and connects to the HRM, with no issue, straight from the app store. Endomondo, Runkeeper, MapMyRun etc have all failed to find and connect to the HRM
xda user dimfish has posted this thread in the Android Software and Hacking General forum, it's a mod that enables BLE conectivity for Fitbit (I am yet to test this, but replies suggest that is working on all 4.3 ROMs).
Given the fact that BLE connectivity works fine on Runtastic (and now Fitbit, with the mod), I am hopeful that native support for all hardware capable Android devices isn't too far away. In the meantime, please share what your thought's experiences are.
Cheers,
BT
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Hi BT,
Have you had any success in this since the post. Got the same gear you have and given Alpha MIO says the phone was supported i find this very dissappointing.

Hi mate,
It turns out support for the Alpha is down to application level. I am using it with the latest version of Endomondo and it works as it should. I believe Runtastic works as well, but anything else I can't speak for.
Good luck!
BT
andrewisinchina said:
Hi BT,
Have you had any success in this since the post. Got the same gear you have and given Alpha MIO says the phone was supported i find this very dissappointing.
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Ignore... i found it, thanks
bobbytod said:
Hi mate,
It turns out support for the Alpha is down to application level. I am using it with the latest version of Endomondo and it works as it should. I believe Runtastic works as well, but anything else I can't speak for.
Good luck!
BT
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Thanks, I have loaded BLE Heart Rate and can get that to work but was wanting something like MapMyRide as it autolinks to MyFitnessPal. Will take a look at Endomondo.
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andrewisinchina said:
Thanks, I have loaded BLE Heart Rate and can get that to work but was wanting something like MapMyRide as it autolinks to MyFitnessPal. Will take a look at Endomondo.
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Hi BT,
Just went endomondo premium but cant get it to hook up the Note 3 and the watch? Do i still need to buy the premium app seperate from the premium account?
thanks for the help
Andrew

It Works
andrewisinchina said:
Ignore... i found it, thanks
Thanks, I have loaded BLE Heart Rate and can get that to work but was wanting something like MapMyRide as it autolinks to MyFitnessPal. Will take a look at Endomondo.
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Hi BT,
Just went endomondo premium but cant get it to hook up the Note 3 and the watch? Do i still need to buy the premium app seperate from the premium account?
thanks for the help
Andrew
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UPDATE: I have Endomondo Premium, Linked with MyFitnessPal and this now works well. I have used it for the past 6 weeks no problem. You need to connect in the right order but this does work.
So, Myfitnesspal is linked to Endomondo Premium (needed for the Heart Rate Monitor)
On first application you need to ADD the Heart Rate Monitor in the Endomondo APP itself, with the Alpha in Workout mode. Make sure you turn WIFI off, on your phone for connection. After the first application the following works everytime
1. Alpha on, put into find heart rate
2. Turn WIFI Off and then Bluetooth on and GPS on (if tracking run or ride)
3. Ignore connection from Native Samsung connection
4. Go into Endomondo, after about 10 secs its then connects
5. Press to start workout mode on the alpha (Endomondo will still track the heart rate and zones even if you forget to put it in workout mode as the app is purely using the Alpha as a heart rate input device.
6. Press Go in Endomondo.
At the end of the training session, do the above in reverse order

Sync ANT+ devices with S5?

I'm reading where the S5 has ANT+ by default and I see where the ANT+ app is installed on my S5. I also see where the Garmin heart rate monitors are listed in the supported devices via the S Health app, but I can't figure out how to get the phone to sync with my HRM? I was thinking it was under bluetooth (the same chip), but it didn't seem to find the HRM when I had BT turned on and was searching.
Anyone else have issues?

JDuc said:
I'm reading where the S5 has ANT+ by default and I see where the ANT+ app is installed on my S5. I also see where the Garmin heart rate monitors are listed in the supported devices via the S Health app, but I can't figure out how to get the phone to sync with my HRM? I was thinking it was under bluetooth (the same chip), but it didn't seem to find the HRM when I had BT turned on and was searching.
Anyone else have issues?
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Hoping now that it's been a few days, there might be some others who have experience?

I have been using the Polar App and H7 HRM. No problems. I have also sued a Scosche HRM but I don't think either are ANT+. Have you tried using a fitness app, not the S Health, and seeing if you can pair it in the app?

Mark0824 said:
I have been using the Polar App and H7 HRM. No problems. I have also sued a Scosche HRM but I don't think either are ANT+. Have you tried using a fitness app, not the S Health, and seeing if you can pair it in the app?
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I feel like an idiot now. I realized just a few moments ago that you have to pair from WITHIN the app, not from the Bluetooth screen.
Pretty straight forward once I realized that.

Same here,
I want to sync my Tacx I-genius within the Tacx Training app, but nothing happens while searching devices.
Any experiences?
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