Hello,
I recently purchased a Samsung Note 3 SM-900V. As a previous Note 1 user I wanted to upgrade my device as I really enjoyed my Note 1.
I use a carrier called Simple Mobile, they are a sub carrier to T-Mobile. Meaning of course, that they use the T-Mobile network.
The problem is this: Simple Mobile (T-Mobile) prefers to use 3g/4g/LTE connections for their data and texting services. Meanwhile, Verizon uses H+ connections primarily, or as I understand it. This difference in signal, from what I can understand through a few days worth of research and combing forums, is the leading reason why my N900V wont upload/download pics, poor signal, etc. etc. DO bear in mind that Verizon software on this device forces the use of the H+ network though it does use 3G as well. Just never 4G or better.
From what I understand it is this H+ preference that the phone has me locked into that is causing my problems. It would seem that this device is capable of using 4G LTE and from my research, being able to use Band 4 would fix most all of my issues.
The major problems itemized are as follows:
Error message "This SIM is from an unknown source"
Unable to send/receive MMS texts
Reduced signal strength when compared to using my same SIM in my Note 1 side by side in pinpoint locations
Complete loss of signal in areas where SIM/Note 1 device had very good signal
As such, from what I can understand, if this device could access Band 4 then it would communicate with the Simple Mobile/T-Mobile network and erase the Sim card error message, send MMS and receive, and finally.... match the coverage I was accustomed to before I used this SIM on this device.
I've have considered a few solutions to include rooting the note 3 so I can enable 4G LTE, installing a factory version of KK 4.4.2 without the Verizon Brand and its bloatware forcing me to use H+ and as a final resort, selling the device (which I do not want to do). Though none of these options seem possible considering I'm using a N900V. At least not without bricking it.
Each time I think I've found a solution, there's a compatibility issue with my device, the software/firmware version, the chipset, etc, etc.
I've attached a screenshot that details some of the specs of this particular phone.
Any options or help would be appreciated.
Welcome Wallace
ok, thanks
so basically, you bought a verizon phone and using a sim card of another network.
Have you tried ringing verizon and asking them about this problem.
I have installed roms on uk version samsung S and S2.
What we now need to know is if American version supports Band 4 at all....I hope someone answers your questions here...
Admins/Moderators here should be able to give us a good answer.
Did you try...
Wallace Bagwell said:
Hello,
I recently purchased a Samsung Note 3 SM-900V. As a previous Note 1 user I wanted to upgrade my device as I really enjoyed my Note 1.
I use a carrier called Simple Mobile, they are a sub carrier to T-Mobile. Meaning of course, that they use the T-Mobile network.
The problem is this: Simple Mobile (T-Mobile) prefers to use 3g/4g/LTE connections for their data and texting services. Meanwhile, Verizon uses H+ connections primarily, or as I understand it. This difference in signal, from what I can understand through a few days worth of research and combing forums, is the leading reason why my N900V wont upload/download pics, poor signal, etc. etc. DO bear in mind that Verizon software on this device forces the use of the H+ network though it does use 3G as well. Just never 4G or better.
From what I understand it is this H+ preference that the phone has me locked into that is causing my problems. It would seem that this device is capable of using 4G LTE and from my research, being able to use Band 4 would fix most all of my issues.
The major problems itemized are as follows:
Error message "This SIM is from an unknown source"
Unable to send/receive MMS texts
Reduced signal strength when compared to using my same SIM in my Note 1 side by side in pinpoint locations
Complete loss of signal in areas where SIM/Note 1 device had very good signal
As such, from what I can understand, if this device could access Band 4 then it would communicate with the Simple Mobile/T-Mobile network and erase the Sim card error message, send MMS and receive, and finally.... match the coverage I was accustomed to before I used this SIM on this device.
I've have considered a few solutions to include rooting the note 3 so I can enable 4G LTE, installing a factory version of KK 4.4.2 without the Verizon Brand and its bloatware forcing me to use H+ and as a final resort, selling the device (which I do not want to do). Though none of these options seem possible considering I'm using a N900V. At least not without bricking it.
Each time I think I've found a solution, there's a compatibility issue with my device, the software/firmware version, the chipset, etc, etc.
I've attached a screenshot that details some of the specs of this particular phone.
Any options or help would be appreciated.
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I've got the same phone and I was able to 4G LTE to run by changing the Network Mode setting to Global.
Settings/More Settings/Mobile Networks/Network Mode.
It may not switch immediately but will eventually switch.
Help Wanted!!!
Is this post helpful for a samsung sm-n905v
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747
I did switch to Global. No success.
amerjames said:
Is this post helpful for a samsung sm-n905v
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747
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It is on global now and still only fluctuates between 3G and H+. Never 4G or LTE.
I've read about this issue from others but the fix was to root and then switch the phone to use band 4 by default.
Wallace Bagwell said:
It is on global now and still only fluctuates between 3G and H+. Never 4G or LTE.
I've read about this issue from others but the fix was to root and then switch the phone to use band 4 by default.
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Did you try "3g/4g/lte" instead of global? Band 4 is the latest and greatest and not available everywhere yet. The normal band you should see is band 13 (at least for me). There is a good thread in the "General" section on "Service Modes" you should look at.
Wallace Bagwell said:
It is on global now and still only fluctuates between 3G and H+. Never 4G or LTE.
I've read about this issue from others but the fix was to root and then switch the phone to use band 4 by default.
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Band 4 is Verizon....not T-mobile. T-Mobile has very limited 4G and what it has it HSPA.
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bd177 said:
Did you try "3g/4g/lte" instead of global? Band 4 is the latest and greatest and not available everywhere yet. The normal band you should see is band 13 (at least for me). There is a good thread in the "General" section on "Service Modes" you should look at.
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I have tried the CDMA/LTE/EVDO option under network settings but I doesnt seem to work any better. It still gives me the "SIM card is from an unknown source" error message and will not load or send MMS at all.
I will look at the serve modes section and see what it says. Thanks!
donc113 said:
Band 4 is Verizon....not T-mobile. T-Mobile has very limited 4G and what it has it HSPA.
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Ah, I didn't see that he was on T-Mobile .
donc113 said:
Band 4 is Verizon....not T-mobile. T-Mobile has very limited 4G and what it has it HSPA.
That may be true. I'm not sure and I cant validate it. However, it would seem from what I am reading that I need to switch it to B4.
I haven't rooted it and still looking for a way to root a KK 4.4.2 N900V. Once I have access to that menu I can test whether these methods from other threads and sites are accurate.
I'm not saying you are wrong by the way but under the current settings my phone doesn't talk to my network and incurs an entire host of other problems.
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bd177 said:
Ah, I didn't see that he was on T-Mobile .
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I'm actually on Simple Mobile but it is a subcarrier under T-Mobile
Wallace Bagwell said:
I'm actually on Simple Mobile but it is a subcarrier under T-Mobile
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Check out this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570569
donc113 said:
Band 4 is Verizon....not T-mobile. T-Mobile has very limited 4G and what it has it HSPA.
Sent from my Note 3 via Tapatalk
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That may be true. I'm not sure and I cant validate it. However, it would seem from what I am reading that I need to be connected to B4 if I am not already like you insist. If I am, then it still isnt working like it should.
I read this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747) and it sort of supports what you and I are both saying. However, at the root of the problem, I need to be able to root.
I haven't rooted it and still looking for a way to root a KK 4.4.2 N900V. Once I have access to that menu I can test whether these methods from other threads and sites are accurate.
I'm not saying you are wrong by the way but under the current settings my phone doesn't talk to my network and incurs an entire host of other problems.
Wallace Bagwell said:
That may be true. I'm not sure and I cant validate it. However, it would seem from what I am reading that I need to be connected to B4 if I am not already like you insist. If I am, then it still isnt working like it should.
I read this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747) and it sort of supports what you and I are both saying. However, at the root of the problem, I need to be able to root.
I haven't rooted it and still looking for a way to root a KK 4.4.2 N900V. Once I have access to that menu I can test whether these methods from other threads and sites are accurate.
I'm not saying you are wrong by the way but under the current settings my phone doesn't talk to my network and incurs an entire host of other problems.
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If you are on the NC4 OTA then use towelroot. Do a search for "KK root" and you will find all the methods available for all versions.
Wallace Bagwell said:
I have tried the CDMA/LTE/EVDO option under network settings but I doesnt seem to work any better. It still gives me the "SIM card is from an unknown source" error message and will not load or send MMS at all.
I will look at the serve modes section and see what it says. Thanks!
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T-Mobile is GSM, Verizon is CDMA.
Sent from my Note 3 via Tapatalk
bd177 said:
If you are on the NC4 OTA then use towelroot. Do a search for "KK root" and you will find all the methods available for all versions.
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How do I know if I'm using NC4 OTA?
donc113 said:
T-Mobile is GSM, Verizon is CDMA.
Sent from my Note 3 via Tapatalk
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I have switched from global to GSM under network settings. Going to see how that works. I get poor service with global setting but I do get service. Under CDMA I get zero signal. Even though I had 3 bars a second ago under global.
I'll let it sit on GSM for a few hours and see how that works.
amerjames said:
Is this post helpful for a samsung sm-n905v
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747
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I read the entire article a few times just to see what it had to say about my problem. Unfortunately, it does state that I must be rooted to even proceed with most steps.
Back to square one. I need to root it, however, the threads on here that refer to rooting with the N900V and KK 4.4.2 in mind say that there is not any way to root this device with this operating system.
:crying:
bd177 said:
If you are on the NC4 OTA then use towelroot. Do a search for "KK root" and you will find all the methods available for all versions.
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Hey there,
So i followed the instructions for towel root, both versions, and I dont think the change took.
I installed ES File Explorer to make some changes from the advice of another thread and those changes cant be made because I cant find the file or the directory. Even after enabling options for root and display hidden files.
So, even after installing Towel Root, when I go to access the service menu using any of the codes I get no action whatsoever.
Im still in the same boat as well as far as not finding a proper KK 4.4.2 root file/method for N900V that does not follow itself with threads saying how it doesnt work at all.
Is there another way to root that I'm not considering or havent found yet?
Thanks for listening.
Try this:
-Dial *#27663368378#
-UE settings & info
-Settings
-Protocol
-Nas
-Network control
-Pref mode set
-Choose GSM_WCDMA_LTE_ONLY
You may need to reboot. This worked for me on NC2 with a MetroPCS sim. If it fails then double check your APN. You may also try to factory reset the phone with your Sim inside. When you do a clean install you get more options under Network Mode in settings.
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I have an unlocked Defy from T-Mobile USA that I'm using with my AT&T service, but I'm only getting EDGE wherever I go, no UMTS at all, and I've even heard of people getting it to run on HSPA bands. I know already that HSPA is available everywhere from my home to my workplace, thanks to my Atrix 4G. I've rooted the Defy and it's running Cyanogenmod 7 latest. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I can find nothing on this forum or on Google to remedy the issue.
You should try to change the freq via baseband switcher.And restart.
Maybe you got the "2g only" checked in networks settings..uncheck that.
Settings >Wireless & networks > Mobile networks
You can also put automatic(2G and 3G) mode in GSM/UMTS network preferences.
Thanks for the reply Viper. I just noticed the baseband is set to some central Europe nonsense. Should I change it to one of the T-Mobile USA band settings? There's nothing there for AT&T.
Edit: I changed the baseband to US T-Mobile 3.Something, whichever was latest. 2G only was not checked. I'm still getting 2G only. Could it be my APN settings? Could I copy the APNs from my Atrix?
I'm having a problem with my AT&T connection as well, but I've been using my phone unlocked on the network since March with no problem. I'm new to modding, but OCD about streamlining my electronics. My friend suggested rooting my device and flashing a new ROM. I decided on stock Nordic Froyo, and it makes me so happy not to see all the T-mobile crap in my apps tray.
BUT the collateral damage is not so hot. I have no 3g or even 2g connection anymore. I tried the fix in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944258 and was able to get a signal with 4 bars instead of the previous state of emergency calls only, but no letters like E or 3g and no ability to use the internet/transfer data. I also installed the broadband switcher in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052745 and tried all of the T-mobile US bands. No luck. I did rest the APN to default. No change. I've been using wifi, but will have to go back to work soon. Not having access to the smart part of my smartphone will feel sort of like having an arm cut off.
I'm not sure what to do next. I could try flashing another ROM, but from what I've read in the forums, that's no guarantee.
If anyone has any suggestions to help a noob, I'd be forever grateful.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for the link, halah. Do I apply this as an update.zip from recovery? Or install?
Never mind, it won't work for me, for whatever reason.
Hi
I have rooted RAZR M with the bootloader unlocked currently running Carbon ROM. I just moved to New Zealand and I thought I would be able to use this phone on Vodafone's GSM network. So, I got a prepaid plan and popped the SIM card in. I switched the network to GSM only (I've also tried GSM/WCDMA and maybe another option).
Vodafone NZ shows up in the status bar toggle with zero bars. I haven't tried calling anyone besides Vodafone's 777 number so I'm not sure if that actually works. I can't seem to get data or send texts (except receiving texts from vodafone). So how do I get data to work? I've seen online that people select GSM/UMTS for network mode. That isn't an option though. Should I install another ROM so I can select UMTS? Do I need to use Radiocomm? Thanks in advance!
OK...
First, do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166542
It may not be required, but it's not a bad idea and won't hurt anything. Most likely, that's the cause of the lack of signal. That won't get you all the way there though.
Next, you need to enable GSM options (commonly called a "gsm fix" ) so you can set the APNs required for MMS and data. There's discussion on that on the Carbon thread, look back a few pages.
If neither of those works, it's possible you happen to live in a location outside the VZW RAZR M's band. If that's the case, you are unfortunately SOL
Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 4
too lazy to deal with radiocomm for now but GSM fix helped a little
sloosecannon said:
OK...
First, do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166542
It may not be required, but it's not a bad idea and won't hurt anything. Most likely, that's the cause of the lack of signal. That won't get you all the way there though.
Next, you need to enable GSM options (commonly called a "gsm fix" ) so you can set the APNs required for MMS and data. There's discussion on that on the Carbon thread, look back a few pages.
If neither of those works, it's possible you happen to live in a location outside the VZW RAZR M's band. If that's the case, you are unfortunately SOL
Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 4
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Thanks!
I didn't do the radiocomm thing but I flashed the gsm fix. now I have 5 bars and I can send texts but still no data. I was under the impression that radiocomm was only necessary to use US GSM carriers.
update:
did a fresh install of CM 10.1 RC2 and the GSM fix and now I have data!
duplicationcube said:
Thanks!
I didn't do the radiocomm thing but I flashed the gsm fix. now I have 5 bars and I can send texts but still no data. I was under the impression that radiocomm was only necessary to use US GSM carriers.
update:
did a fresh install of CM 10.1 RC2 and the GSM fix and now I have data!
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Sweet! Good to know it worked!
FWIW, it's probably a better idea to build your own GSM fix from the RC2 build.prop... The flashable one is using a very old build.prop that may cause issues - in fact that's probably why carbon didn't work. I know there's a post in the CM10.1 thread about it...
You don't need to, but if you start getting odd bugs, that might be the cause...
Speaking of which, I probably should make a tutorial on that...
And yes, radiocomm is usually required for US only, but some countries use the same GSM bands (I think... Not exactly a gsm expert so I may be completely wrong here...) and they need it to get data. Since you have it though, looks like you're good to go!
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Hello people,
I have recently acquired a Note 3 LTE (Snapdragon 800) model of the phone which is 4G compatible but for some reason, I get no option to select a 4G network. The only options I have to chose from is 3G/2G (auto connect) and 3G only. I have attached a screenshot below showing what I mean. On other Note 3 LTE phones, I've seen a different set of options such as LTE/WCDMA/GSM etc...
Why is it so? I am running the latest version of android according to Samsung update which is version 4.3. So is this a software issue or what? My service provider says that samsung should release a software update to solve this issue but I don't understand why this is the case. If anyone can clarify this issue for me I would be very glad.
Thanks!
Dimitri Stephan said:
Hello people,
I have recently acquired a Note 3 LTE (Snapdragon 800) model of the phone which is 4G compatible but for some reason, I get no option to select a 4G network. The only options I have to chose from is 3G/2G (auto connect) and 3G only. I have attached a screenshot below showing what I mean. On other Note 3 LTE phones, I've seen a different set of options such as LTE/WCDMA/GSM etc...
Why is it so? I am running the latest version of android according to Samsung update which is version 4.3. So is this a software issue or what? My service provider says that samsung should release a software update to solve this issue but I don't understand why this is the case. If anyone can clarify this issue for me I would be very glad.
Thanks!
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What region are you in?
What firmware version are you on?
Has your LTE been activated by your provider yet?
radicalisto said:
What region are you in?
What firmware version are you on?
Has your LTE been activated by your provider yet?
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I am in Beirut, Lebanon.
I also have a Galaxy S4 with the latest updates and I get a 4G connection in certain areas. So yes, 4G had already been activated by my provider.
I've attached another screenshot because I am not sure what you mean by firmware version.
Can you compare the S4 and Note 3 "apn settings" to see if they are the same? You might have to manually input your carrier's apn settings into the note.
440bro said:
Can you compare the S4 and Note 3 "apn settings" to see if they are the same? You might have to manually input your carrier's apn settings into the note.
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Yup try this and see ^^^ :good:
440bro said:
Can you compare the S4 and Note 3 "apn settings" to see if they are the same? You might have to manually input your carrier's apn settings into the note.
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The apn settings are the same since they have been both configured automatically when the service provider sent the settings to be saved.
What else could it be?
Dimitri Stephan said:
I am in Beirut, Lebanon.
I also have a Galaxy S4 with the latest updates and I get a 4G connection in certain areas. So yes, 4G had already been activated by my provider.
I've attached another screenshot because I am not sure what you mean by firmware version.
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Try flashing one of the other LTE N9005 roms and see if you get the listings under settings appear( backup first). I know some roms take this option out like at&t here in the states.
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Better yet try this:
open your dialer and type *#2263# and see if you get the lte option.
daraj said:
Try flashing one of the other LTE N9005 roms and see if you get the listings under settings appear( backup first). I know some roms take this option out like at&t here in the states.
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Better yet try this:
open your dialer and type *#2263# and see if you get the lte option.
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Alright so good news. I received a message telling me that there is a new firmware update available, so I downloaded and installed it. Now I get a 4G option even though I never once got a 4G signal during the day. I guess waiting is my only option now. What do you think?
Dimitri Stephan said:
Alright so good news. I received a message telling me that there is a new firmware update available, so I downloaded and installed it. Now I get a 4G option even though I never once got a 4G signal during the day. I guess waiting is my only option now. What do you think?
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thats good but still you should have the lte option. did u try the code?
daraj said:
thats good but still you should have the lte option. did u try the code?
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I did but got this message: "Connection problem or invalid MMI code". What is this code supposed to tell me?
Hi guys.
I am facing a somewhat similar issue. What makes it different is that I had the LTE option when I bought the Note 3, although there was no 4G service in the country at that time. However, I think it was after an update that I no longer have the LTE option available to in my network settings. Right now, in my home country, LTE hasnt yet been introduced. But like I said, there was no LTE in my previous country of residence either yet I had the LTE option.
By the way, the code *#2263# does nothing at all on my set.
Appreciate any feedback and resolutions.
Thanks
Dimitri Stephan said:
Hello people,
I have recently acquired a Note 3 LTE (Snapdragon 800) model of the phone which is 4G compatible but for some reason, I get no option to select a 4G network. The only options I have to chose from is 3G/2G (auto connect) and 3G only. I have attached a screenshot below showing what I mean. On other Note 3 LTE phones, I've seen a different set of options such as LTE/WCDMA/GSM etc...
Why is it so? I am running the latest version of android according to Samsung update which is version 4.3. So is this a software issue or what? My service provider says that samsung should release a software update to solve this issue but I don't understand why this is the case. If anyone can clarify this issue for me I would be very glad.
Thanks!
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If your phone is rooted (seems like it isn't) then you can manually edit a config file to enable LTE. If not, you'll be waiting for another OTA update I think.
Dimitri Stephan said:
Alright so good news. I received a message telling me that there is a new firmware update available, so I downloaded and installed it. Now I get a 4G option even though I never once got a 4G signal during the day. I guess waiting is my only option now. What do you think?
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sadi2e you have to go Touch or Alfa to replace your SIM with a 4g compatible one, btw ignore the costumer support telling you that you won't receive any signal if you get out of 4g zones,they are total idiots
I replaced mine and now getting 13 14 mb/s speeds
Contact me here if you need any further assistance
lesalloum said:
sadi2e you have to go Touch or Alfa to replace your SIM with a 4g compatible one, btw ignore the costumer support telling you that you won't receive any signal if you get out of 4g zones,they are total idiots
I replaced mine and now getting 13 14 mb/s speeds
Contact me here if you need any further assistance
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Nice to see a Lebanese on these forums. I've already changed my sim card to the 4G capable one but I still don't see a 4G icon wherever I go.
Dimitri Stephan said:
Nice to see a Lebanese on these forums. I've already changed my sim card to the 4G capable one but I still don't see a 4G icon wherever I go.
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Im from there too originally. Did you change your modem at some point? It could be that your current modem is not LTE capable. Or let me ask you this: Did you install a stock rom from a different country other then the one that your device is intended to? bas bi beirut fi LTE aw wen maken?
daraj said:
Im from there too originally. Did you change your modem at some point? It could be that your current modem is not LTE capable. Or let me ask you this: Did you install a stock rom from a different country other then the one that your device is intended to? bas bi beirut fi LTE aw wen maken?
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What modem are you talking about? The rom is stock. LTE is only available in Beirut and some other places surrounding it.
hi
i have got same issues with LTE
please help
how ?
Dimitri Stephan said:
Alright so good news. I received a message telling me that there is a new firmware update available, so I downloaded and installed it. Now I get a 4G option even though I never once got a 4G signal during the day. I guess waiting is my only option now. What do you think?
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Hello , I have a USIM, and note3 4G ( bought from KSA and tried on 4G in Dubai and KSA) . I did not get any updates on wifi nor through kies .
Did you change you upload a new platform ( kitkat) before you got the update ? or did you just wake up and found an update ?
PS : I live in Beirut Lebanon too .
Thanks
Me too with the same problem
I bought my phone from Dubai.. i saw the LTE option when i used my phone there.. but then i flashed Poland's latest firmware and rooted my device.. now i am in South Asia , and my phone doesn't show any LTE option..! :silly: weird..
I'll say it again: Each CSC has a different list of 4G activated providers that are not directly related to the region they are in.
Which means that a device can have 4G activated for 50 providers, just not the one your SIM belongs to. As such, if you insert the SIM, the 4G toggle is disabled.
Each provider has to individually pass on the fact that they have 4G to Samsung. Even then it's not activated for each CSC.
As such, my DBT Note 3 had 4G on T-Mobile NL months before the TL and PHN ROMs had it.
Also, South Asia uses a different frequency your EU firmware can't detect.
Sorry, I'm a little new to the AT&T Note 3 as I was used to T-Mobile and their phones (still use their network by the way)...So, I was looking around to see if I could switch my network modes (e.g. GSM,WCDMA,LTE, or combinations of both). Its pretty helpful if you need to switch to WCDMA,GSM, or other modes. Some of you may know it, but I am new to this stuff and hopefully I help others who don't know much about this either. On your dialer, enter *#*#4636#*#* then press device information and you'll be able to switch network modes! Just found that out and wanted to enlighten others. Press that thumbs up if this was somewhat helpful!
we already know this but thanks. And to get 4G on an att note 3 is pretty much useless without enabling the AWS bands.
YoungDev said:
Sorry, I'm a little new to the AT&T Note 3 as I was used to T-Mobile and their phones (still use their network by the way)...So, I was looking around to see if I could switch my network modes (e.g. GSM,WCDMA,LTE, or combinations of both). Its pretty helpful if you need to switch to WCDMA,GSM, or other modes. Some of you may know it, but I am new to this stuff and hopefully I help others who don't know much about this either. On your dialer, enter *#*#4636#*#* then press device information and you'll be able to switch network modes! Just found that out and wanted to enlighten others. Press that thumbs up if this was somewhat helpful!
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On all of my past AT&T Phones, I never had this stick for me. The phone would always switch back to LTE after a short time. I am using Intelli3G with Xposed and I can now successfully turn off LTE when I need to with a toggle.
PeteSeiler2010 said:
On all of my past AT&T Phones, I never had this stick for me. The phone would always switch back to LTE after a short time. I am using Intelli3G with Xposed and I can now successfully turn off LTE when I need to with a toggle.
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Why do you switch to 3G, is 4G in your area spotty?
Netrunner157 said:
Why do you switch to 3G, is 4G in your area spotty?
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The building that i work in seems to almost block the LTE signal for all AT&T phones. There are a few of us in my department that have issues with this. The phone will constantly switch between 4G and LTE, this also causes the phone battery to die faster. Since we can't flash an unlocked radio the Note 3, the Xposed module was my best bet. As soon as i switch over to the just 4G by making my phone use WCDM only, I have no issues with signal. Using the hidden menu, (*#*#4636#*#*), and switching it to WCDMA Only doesn't stick permanently. I had this issue once before with my Skyrocket, but with that phone you were able to flash a RAT Unlocked radio or a non-LTE radio on the phone and that would disable LTE as well. As soon as i step outside of my building, my LTE signal is strong and I have no issues at all.
In my jobs basement only people who get any sort of signal are people who have tmobile. Would this help me get signal as well?
It's worth a shot, it works flawlessly for me.
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I have to wonder if changing your network mode after a throttling would still allow good download speeds???????????????
Update: sadly changing to a different network mode does not work to remove a throttle. Neither does flashing a different modem. If only the bootloader was unlocked.... Crossing fingers and remaining hopeful with my blazing edge network speeds.: (
Can anyone tell me what the default mode is?
I Have a brand new SIM from WIND mobile in Ontario that came in another phone. I have this Nexus 4 kicking around so I popped in the WIND sim, but it does not connect. When I go to search for mobile networks in settings, it finds all the non AWS carriers (including the 'WIND away' network) but does not show Wind 3G (this is what the correct network lists as on my phone supplied by them). I have played around a bit in the *#*#4636#*#* menu, but nothing seems to make it work. Is the AWS band disabled in some Nexus 4s, and is there a way to enable it?
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Okay, first of all to avoid duplicate threads please use the search function of XDA to find your answer, or do a little Googling...
Anyways to answer you question, the AWS band of the Nexus 4 is disabled by Google to lower costs. That may sound crazy, but the story goes something like this:
If you didn't already know, The Nexus 4 is based off of the LG Optimus G, and has a lot of the same insides...
The same board was used for the nexus 4 and Optimus G, and on some of the G models they had LTE on band 4 and 17.
The nexus 4 never went through the FCC for LTE so Google disabled it because it wasn't worth the trouble of supporting 1 band.
Now, your answer: Depending on the Android Version, it maybe as simple as tinkering with the Info menu you were in. (4.2.1)
Newer versions were harder to enable LTE
You need to figure out what you need to do depending on the newer version.
You may need something as simple as an older radio
You might need to unlock your phone's boot loader, (which requires a factory reset), or maybe even have to flash a custom recovery (like CWM or TWRP) and custom rom.
It would really help I knew more info about the device likel what Android version,if its rooted, or has an unlocked bootloader,etc.
If you don't know what any of this means DON'T WORRY, there is an entire community of people willing to help
Sorry I should have gone into more detail. I have done the various tricks to try to enable LTE, but is that the same as enabling the AWS network? I was under the impression from the WIND folks that the Nexus4 worked for them stock.
As for the firmware version, I have tried on 4.2, 4.2.2, KitKat (4.4 I think?). I have tried after flashing the stock roms of each of these versions as well as after rooting. I have also tried flashing different radio versions to no success.
I should also mention that under the "4636" menus I have tried to click "select radio band" from the menu, but this just crashes the process and goes back to the first menu.
So does no LTE mean no AWS?
Hmmm...
First of all, NEVER click Select Radio Band, like you said, it crashes both the menu and resets your connection. Bug? Unfinished feature? No one knows.
You are supposed to click on GSM/LTE button instead of WCDMA preferred.
If that sticks then you might be done on (4.2.1)
If on higher version, then get the older .33 or .27 radio or a hybrid radio
AWS is the band the nexus 4 has unofficial support for, so its actually the opposite:
No AWS=No LTE
So try getting 4.2.1 via factory images and try getting that working okay (WCDMA→GSM/LTE)?
If not then tell me
How about 4.2 (JOP40C)? I have that currently but I can go back and get 4.2.1 if necessary.
And just to put the AWS/LTE bit to rest, can I have (on this or any other phone) AWS without LTE, or are they synonymous?
I am playing with it right now without the sim becaue it is busy in the other phone. When I switch to GSM/LTE AUTO, I find AT&T as well as the big three Canadian networks, but still don't see WIND. I did not see the AT&T on WCDMA, but its spotty near the border here anyways.
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How about 4.2 (JOP40C)? I have that currently but I can go back and get 4.2.1 if necessary.
And just to put the AWS/LTE bit to rest, can I have (on this or any other phone) AWS without LTE, or are they synonymous?
I am playing with it right now without the sim becaue it is busy in the other phone. When I switch to GSM/LTE AUTO, I find AT&T as well as the big three Canadian networks, but still don't see WIND. I did not see the AT&T on WCDMA, but its spotty near the border here anyways.
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Sorry for the late reply but,
In 4.2 all you have to do is switch to GSM/LTE and switch to correct APN's in the phone settings
You can AWS on 3G as far as I know but it won't make a difference...
The only reason we are using AWS band for LTE is because its the only one the Nexus 4 can see.
As for the last paragraph what do you mean you cant see WIND? What do you mean by "seeing"?
Can you clarify?
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Could you try this small app (should trigger the radio band select menu) to see what options do you have?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mangelow.network
For the Wind Mobile AWS, you will need the WCDMA option. This is what Wind Mobile use, not LTE.
If you will be able to select the WCDMA option and still no Wind 3G/HSPA, then we will tinker with the APN settings.
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googleygoggles said:
Sorry for the late reply but,
In 4.2 all you have to do is switch to GSM/LTE and switch to correct APN's in the phone settings
You can AWS on 3G as far as I know but it won't make a difference...
The only reason we are using AWS band for LTE is because its the only one the Nexus 4 can see.
As for the last paragraph what do you mean you cant see WIND? What do you mean by "seeing"?
Can you clarify?
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By 'seeing' I mean when I go to the network selection / search function in settings. When I click to search for network providers, I do not see WIND3G as an option (or any WIND branded network). On the phone they provided me, when I search for networks I have several options that are labelled as WIND. If I recall correctly, I think I have about 12 choices between various providers, whereas with the Nexus 4 I just show three selections.
@DupleX01, Thanks. I will give that a shot when I get a few minutes to play with this at home. It has been a couple of weeks since I have worked with the Nexus.
DupleX01 said:
Could you try this small app (should trigger the radio band select menu) to see what options do you have?
For the Wind Mobile AWS, you will need the WCDMA option. This is what Wind Mobile use, not LTE.
If you will be able to select the WCDMA option and still no Wind 3G/HSPA, then we will tinker with the APN settings.
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It's a slow day at work, so I am back on this. I have tried setting the radio to WCDMA only, but this does not make a difference. The only network I can see with the SIM in is "WIND away", which I believe is Rogers. So I am on roaming. Should I flash a different radio to the phone? Anybody got suggestions on which radio is the best version for use on WIND?
With the SIM in, the APN settings are already correct for WIND, but I am not finding their network.
Also just for kicks I flashed kitkat (stock) again, including the radio that comes with the ZIP. No changes in network availability.. Gonna leave it on this for now unless someone suggests that it might be better to revert to 4.2.1 or another version.
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It's a slow day at work, so I am back on this. I have tried setting the radio to WCDMA only, but this does not make a difference. The only network I can see with the SIM in is "WIND away", which I believe is Rogers. So I am on roaming. Should I flash a different radio to the phone? Anybody got suggestions on which radio is the best version for use on WIND?
With the SIM in, the APN settings are already correct for WIND, but I am not finding their network.
Also just for kicks I flashed kitkat (stock) again, including the radio that comes with the ZIP. No changes in network availability.. Gonna leave it on this for now unless someone suggests that it might be better to revert to 4.2.1 or another version.
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Based on your findings, I would say everything is alright on hardware side (APN is good, radio ok for WCDMA). So, it could be a glitch with Wind micro sim card. Still bonded to the previous phone IMEI what not. Make sure you now the serial of the micro sim, your imei of the new phone and give them (Wind Mobile tech support) a call.
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