Simple answer - NO.
When a new software release is made for an OS, all the developers would have done is test it on a very few devices within the developers and then roll it out to testers. And after analyzing the bugs identified from these testers, the developers sit on fixing it and finally come up with a release. Now would this release be bug-less? Absolutely not! Remember, its only been tested amongst a very few number of people and the rolling out happens to thousands residing in different parts of the world. If you think about it, what these updates are gonna deal with is a varied number of users, different carriers, sim make etc etc.
Take for example, for Indian users, the 4.4.2 update has been rolled out for quite a while. Lots of bugs were identified since then and the forum managers have been collecting data from the subscribers for quite a while now (Almost 4 months). Still the fix has not happened. And now 4.4.4 is out and issues persist.
I hvae been using 4.3, 4.4.2, then CM11, Mokee ROM etc etc, and now Im finally back to stock 4.3, coz thats the most stable version. So if you are someone who is interested in trying out new releases, please go ahead, but if you are someone who needs a stable ROM with no signal drop issues, please stick to 4.3.
totally disagree. I have european version Moto G with stock 4.4.2 and everything is working perfeclty. Try to wipe you Moto or flash any other rom.
seems like pebkac not buggy firmware . otherwise every single guy would be facing same problems and that's not happening .
ovitz said:
totally disagree. I have european version Moto G with stock 4.4.2 and everything is working perfeclty. Try to wipe you Moto or flash any other rom.
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Just to clarify, did you receive an update package sometime after the primary update?
4.4.3 works fine on my US GSM moto G. But it might be different for others.
Also, add a warning to the OP that if you're already on 4.4.3+, you can't downgrade anymore. Motoboot from 4.4.3+ doesn't seem to like downgrading anymore, unfortunately.
4.2.2 works great, no signal drops or anything. Waiting for eupean 4.4.4. :good:
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Question is whether downgrading is possible from 4.4.4 ?
I totally agree to ovitz. Updates are supposed to fix issues with older versions of the software. My moto came with 4.4.2 and i never had issues with signal drops. I am from India. Btw it's always better to reset phone after the update.
I agree with you OP on some extent. I also recently downgraded to 4.3 from 4.4.2 just for the lulz, because I was getting "image is too large" error but surprisingly today the flashing was successful. The battery timing has improved, dialer app is cooler than that of the 4.4.2. I'm finding these changes quite interesting because I didn't stay with 4.3 for too long; my Moto G received the KitKat update the moment I powered it on for the first time.
techpick said:
Simple answer - NO.
When a new software release is made for an OS, all the developers would have done is test it on a very few devices within the developers and then roll it out to testers. And after analyzing the bugs identified from these testers, the developers sit on fixing it and finally come up with a release. Now would this release be bug-less? Absolutely not! Remember, its only been tested amongst a very few number of people and the rolling out happens to thousands residing in different parts of the world. If you think about it, what these updates are gonna deal with is a varied number of users, different carriers, sim make etc etc.
Take for example, for Indian users, the 4.4.2 update has been rolled out for quite a while. Lots of bugs were identified since then and the forum managers have been collecting data from the subscribers for quite a while now (Almost 4 months). Still the fix has not happened. And now 4.4.4 is out and issues persist.
I hvae been using 4.3, 4.4.2, then CM11, Mokee ROM etc etc, and now Im finally back to stock 4.3, coz thats the most stable version. So if you are someone who is interested in trying out new releases, please go ahead, but if you are someone who needs a stable ROM with no signal drop issues, please stick to 4.3.
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While I do agree with you for most of what you said, not everyone has bugs or issues with their phones on 4.4.3/4.4.4 upgrade. I myself has had one bug that came with the phone since 4.3 and it's worst now on 4.4.3 and ironically, I've gotten all the bugs on the 4.4.3 that others were getting on 4.4.2. I ended up putting on CM11 because it was getting to me.
P.S. It's impossible to downgrade from 4.4.3/4.4.4. I would love to downgrade back to 4.3. Never got the chance to see how it behaved on my phone because I updated to 4.4.2 the moment I booted for the first time.
Did I mention the "Sign in to WiFi" error on the 4.4.2? That's annoying as hell.
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Question is whether downgrading is possible from 4.4.4 ?
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It is possible!, download the 4.4 official ROM and do a fastboot and install all the IMG files.
Thats how I did it,
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It is possible!, download the 4.4 official ROM and do a fastboot and install all the IMG files.
Thats how I did it,
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but you can't downgrade the bootloader, so didn't you get any errors?
Not that guy, Don't touch the motoboot and you should be fine
There's no point of updating your phone unless youare receiving it over OTA. Doing it manually is risky. The only thing that you'll get is new AOSP dialer and few security fixes. There's no reward..no improvement in performance as well as in camera quality. People are reporting bugs all over the globe and they desperatly want to switch back to 4.4.2. Few have them are also facing downgrading issues.
And you want to go through all this for just a minor update? Android L could be a good reason as it is worth updating even after bugs. But a minor update is definitely not.
If some one will ask me which is best ROM for my moto g? I would say Stock 4.4.2. I tried all custom ROMs but no one was as smooth as stock 4.4.2.
Consequences be damn'ed.
Simple answer- yeah, well, that's just like your opinion man.
Indian user. Unlocker my bootloader, Converted to GPE while on 4.4.2. The GpE move was made partly because I had jo desire nor the use if a second sim and mostly because I wanted a clean OS. Period.
Got instant OTA update to 4.4.4 to the day it was pushed.
No issues so far, None in fact and it's been over a week or thereabouts(I admit to the likelihood of me being an isolated case)
Lastly, to each his own.
Android is meant to be taken care of AS WELL tinker every single detail or option if you have the cojones for it. Ciao.
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I have just upgrade to 4.4.4 XT1033 (Malaysian), noted the missing 2 empty simcard icone and new rather flat dialer! nothing much has changed and certainly hasn't noticed any issue mentioned herein!
If one were to go by op opinion then they would be using 4.3 for the rest of the devices life ! I wonder what his comment would be once L comes to our device.
I have to disagree the OP as an xt1033 owner since march 2014.
Android 4.4.4 OTA for moto g helps fix various sw issues and increased performance,new baseband to aid the radio issues. Media playback is improved. The device is more of a swiss-tool now.
GPe edition of Moto G running KTU84P.M003 like a dream and eats more battery,too. I wish i could have flashed it earlier.
Semseddin said:
GPe edition of Moto G running KTU84P.M003 like a dream and eats more battery,too. I wish i could have flashed it earlier.
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Just curious, if it eats more battery how come you call it a dream?
It wasn’t that long ago when published about Motorola’s update plan for Android 4.4.4 KitKat. They were already in the process of working on 4.4.3 and then got the notice about the security patch in 4.4.4. Motorola halted the work they were doing until Google was able to send out the Android 4.4.4 update to them. Once they received the 4.4.4 update they began working on it, and now it’s finished. Motorola is in the process of sending out the update to carriers around the world so prepare to see your update soon.
The update even includes some features that are not present in the Android 4.4.4 change log. All Motorola received from Google was a few small fixes and then a security patch for OpenSSL. Motorola added some additional features that we have seen added to other Motorola devices. They ended up updating the phone dialer, they added the ability to pause and resume video recordings and they enabled the ability to download Motorola Alert. The most recent information about this update was it being sent to Vodafone customers in the UK.
If you have a Moto G or Moto E and have received this Android 4.4.4 KitKat update, then please tell us about it in the comments’ section below. Don’t forget to mention your network and how the update process went. If you end up seeing any additional changes that were not mentioned in the change log above, then definitely let us know.
Read more: http://www.androidorigin.com/moto-g-kitkat-update-android-4-4-4-rollout-motorola/#ixzz38Y5B0Nd7
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Let's hope the update starts rolling out on the retail.en.us firmware too.
Moved here, better suited here vice the Development Threads....Thanks.
Is there a download link for the UK 4.4.4 stock firmware anywhere? I'd like to replace my tesco firmware.
Hey all,
I recently bought a moto g (2014) and when I went to update the software from 4.4.4 to 5.0, it says there are no update. The version I'am running right now is 21.11.17 titan_retuaws. When can I expect the update for this device? Almost all the other moto g second gens have been updated. Also for my last phone, I was able to flash directly from Google's stock rom website. Does Google or Motorola do the same for this phone?
Same thing here:
- new phone
system: 21.11.23.titan_re.....
Android: 4.4.4
whats goin on?
Same where. Indian users are lucky ...
rickmillz said:
Hey all,
I recently bought a moto g (2014) and when I went to update the software from 4.4.4 to 5.0, it says there are no update. The version Iam running right now is 21.11.17 titan_retuaws. When can I expect the update for this device? Almost all the other moto g second gens have been updated. Also for my last phone, I was able to flash directly from Googles stock rom website. Does Google or Motorola do the same for this phone?
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You can do it manually if you don't want to wait
There are threads about how to flash the OTA and other info.
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will moto E get Android 5.0 Lollipop can anyone tell me ??? If Not I will Forgot Android And move To iOS ??
Ksk Royal said:
will moto E get Android 5.0 Lollipop can anyone tell me ??? If Not I will Forgot Android And move To iOS ??
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Yes, it is officially confirmed by Motorola that it will get the Lollipop update.
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Yes, it is officially confirmed by Motorola that it will get the Lollipop update.
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When will it be ?? DOnt know why cm12 is not avialable for moto e or any custom roms before the release of Official Update
Hello the update to android lollipop 5.0.2 just arived my device.
I was very frustrated the last time, cause there was no uptate for my device,
but it just came out.
Well I am hope that the time to marshmallow will not be so long
Moto E 2015 comes out of the box with 5.0.2! You must be talking about some other update. And update to marshmallow is mostly not gonna come Motorola didn't mention this device in their list
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It's a small update to patch the stagefright bug.
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Moto E 2015 comes out of the box with 5.0.2! You must be talking about some other update. And update to marshmallow is mostly not gonna come Motorola didn't mention this device in their list
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This is not right. I bought my device in a normal store for electronic goods. The device has no brand, is a regular device and 5.0.1 was installed - not 5.0.2
Madricks said:
This is not right. I bought my device in a normal store for electronic goods. The device has no brand, is a regular device and 5.0.1 was installed - not 5.0.2
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I think he said that because some E variants shipped with 5.0.2 (such as the Verizon variant). Some of the international variants are behind in updates, 5.1.1 (w/ stage fix) is the one that's desirable.
Ace42 said:
5.1.1 (w/ stage fix) is the one that's desirable.
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exactly, 5.0.2 is ages behind
Ace42 said:
I think he said that because some E variants shipped with 5.0.2 (such as the Verizon variant). Some of the international variants are behind in updates, 5.1.1 (w/ stage fix) is the one that's desirable.
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You got it
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For those interested, in regards to Motorola's failure to meet update commitments. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/general/motorola-failure-to-meet-update-t3237398
I've noticed a lot of people keep saying that were on version 5.1.1 but we're not we are on version 5.1.
nobreak1970 said:
I've noticed a lot of people keep saying that were on version 5.1.1 but we're not we are on version 5.1.
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This is true, and that may matter for some things but the important thing in this case is that Moto posed a 5.0.x update as 5.1.x, which is shameful, and there is a years-long pattern of failing to update that we want them to fix.