USB OTG sdcard limitations
Does anyone have any idea the limits of sdcard size and speed on the Nexus 10?
I want to purchase a 64 to 128gig stick to backup device then synch stick to pc
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Hi,
When using my 4 GB to copy files from/to my Nexus I'm getting more or less 10-15MB/s, sometimes a bit more. The file size limitations comes with the partitioning, FAT limits it to 4GB file.
~Lord
Actually I'm wondering if the Nexus 10 will handle a 256gb stick... Right now I'm using only 8gb
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ValleyFly said:
Actually I'm wondering if the Nexus 10 will handle a 256gb stick... Right now I'm using only 8gb
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Oh, sorry but I can't tell you it... As I don't have a 256GB stick. Maybe you can check if a friend has and then testing it . Although, I don't belive there'll be major issues, as long as you keep the FAT32 formatting.
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I use an 250Gb usb ssd formated in exFat. It work quite well, it just unmounts itself sometimes.
ExFat permits to have files greater than 4Gb but it's not supported by all ROM. CM11 support it. You can also format your stick in NTFS.
Sticks that big are still pretty costly but worth it for backing up a tablet?
Thanks for the info.
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dadaz007 said:
I use an 250Gb usb ssd formated in exFat. It work quite well, it just unmounts itself sometimes.
ExFat permits to have files greater than 4Gb but it's not supported by all ROM. CM11 support it. You can also format your stick in NTFS.
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ext4 should work fine for the file system. If you have busybox installed you should also have mkfs.ext2, vfat, minix and mkdosfs --- if you want to put different filesystems on it from the tablet.
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Just got a new 32gb card and phone says it has unsupported file system. Any one know a way to get it to work by chance?
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nailmind said:
Just got a new 32gb card and phone says it has unsupported file system. Any one know a way to get it to work by chance?
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Is the card formatted in NTFS? If so try formatting using FAT32.
Hope this helps
Or even FAT without 32 if that possible. And that should fix the problem
I just buy a Kingston 32G class 4 sdcard, my DHD is no problem. Other my sdcard format is Fat32.
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tadasi said:
I just buy a Kingston 32G class 4 sdcard, my DHD is no problem.
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I have the same card and it works very well formatted to FAT32. Good Read/Write speeds considering it's a big card.
Cool I'll try this but now have to get a card reader as one I had broke... nice to know other people got the same kingston card working
Good times people
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So I just seen that the SGS3 supports EXFat and files over 4gb's now. So if you want a really fast SD card, consider formatting from Fat32 over to exfat, and set block size to 16mb or 32mb. I know most if not all my files are 5mb or way over that, so not much space is wasted! I hope that helps someone
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Can you format ex fat in the phone itself or has to be pc? I purchased a 64gb sdxc card and will need to do this.
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Why on earth would you want a 32 MB block size? Seems like you would end up with a ton of wasted space.
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Can you format ex fat in the phone itself or has to be pc? I purchased a 64gb sdxc card and will need to do this.
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Well for me I have a lot of movies, huge pictures, music over 7mb. I myself use 16mb. But for people that want full speed from exfat will select 32mb.
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Can you format ex fat in the phone itself or has to be pc? I purchased a 64gb sdxc card and will need to do this.
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I don't have the phone or Id let you know. I do have my 32gb c10 ready to go when it gets here though
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So would that mean that any files I have under 16mb will in fact take up 16mb of space? Even files that are only a few kb?
Yes. I know it sounds scary, but most small items are stored on the phone sdcard.
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WARNING: Samsung's exFAT driver implementation is buggy!
exFAT is not an open standard. It is MS proprietary. Do not expect it to fully work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27415975&postcount=18
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698672&page=2
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WARNING: Samsung's exFAT driver implementation is buggy!
exFAT is not an open standard. It is MS proprietary. Do not expect it to fully work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27415975&postcount=18
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698672&page=2
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I didn't read the whole thread. But from what I saw, only 3 people had a problem. And at first he said he copied 1900 files and had corruption, then he states its a problem over 3000. I don't know if this is user error, or what. But thanks for the warning, Ill keep an eye out....... And if that guy was checking file by file for 1900 songs, that's some serious time, I call BS.
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I didn't read the whole thread.... , I call BS.
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A bunch of other people were having the same problem too.
jnadke said:
A bunch of other people were having the same problem too.
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It may well be correct, and now I can't wait to find out, damn 32gb PB pre order
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I unloaded my 64gb sd card, put it in the phone and it formatted it to exfat, I copied all my data back to the card and did a restore from mybackup pro, after the restore and reboot I then received a damaged sd card, i'm not sure what's going on, The only 2 options on windows is NTFS and exFat
Performance gain will be nominal. You're talking a phone here, not a database server dealing with heavy iOPS. I have a 64GB Class 10 in mine and performance could not be better. I also had a ***** of a time getting the card to register after I let my PC format it, had to, absolutely had to, let the device format it.
Note: I'm a heavy performance user who goes for maximum battery without overly sacrificing performance. Professionally, I build and configure SAN's for Exchange, SQL and vSphere. I make no claims to being a phone development god (thought about refreshing my skills there but frankly, don't have the time), BUT I'm also VERY good at what I do.
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I unloaded my 64gb sd card, put it in the phone and it formatted it to exfat, I copied all my data back to the card and did a restore from mybackup pro, after the restore and reboot I then received a damaged sd card, i'm not sure what's going on, The only 2 options on windows is NTFS and exFat
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Had the same problem. I had no option but to let the phone format it. Delete the partition in windows and then you can format it. If you find another way though, let me know!
Sorry misread your post, I had the same error and had to let it reformat. Did you unplug it and put it into your PC? Were any corrective scans or anything done?
I removed everything back off the card, formatted it to fat32 and copied everything back to it, put it back in the phone and it's still saying it's damaged. Sucks, it's been in my EVO3D for a week now with no problems.
is the extra juice really worth the possibility of data corruption? Im not trying to be a wise guy, just really been wondering myself.
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is the extra juice really worth the possibility of data corruption? Im not trying to be a wise guy, just really been wondering myself.
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Well I must say now I'm worried. But I'm still going to test, I copy huge files to and from on a regular basis, if it saves me 3% in time each time, that is still worth it to me in the long run. I have very little patience, and all that time adds up.
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seems to be working now, I had 8,000 temp files in a MyBackup Pro Directory, Deleted them and now it's working
So if I were to format my 64gb card to exfat and download movies to my phone using adownloader or atorrent, I wouldn't be able to transfer them to my ps3?
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smark72 said:
So if I were to format my 64gb card to exfat and download movies to my phone using adownloader or atorrent, I wouldn't be able to transfer them to my ps3?
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I use xbox lol, I don't know if it would work on ps3.
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TeamERA said:
I use xbox lol, I don't know if it would work on ps3.
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Does it work and show up on the Xbox?
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Does it work and show up on the Xbox?
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I don't have the phone yet, Ill let you know in here though.
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Sorry but i didnt find a topic about this on NEXUS 7 forum.
A few questions:
1 - Anyone knows if N7 can support all sizes of microSD? (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128..so on)
2 - What the lowest CLASS do i need to play videos without problem?
3 - What the lowest CLASS do i need to play GAMES without problem? (using life02 thread
4 - What about battery consume when using the MicroSD/OTG?
5 - I will post some links and you guys tell me which one should be better or trustble
Option 1 Samsung 32GB Class10
Option 2 Sandisk 32GB Class10
Option 3 Patriot 32GB Class 10
I dont have much money so the first option will always be the best one (Unless some1 tell to forget about)
Thanks You all (Sry bad spelling and gramatic)
The Nexus 7 does NOT have a microSD slot. No expandable memory at all.
EDIT- Oops you mean for OTG? In my experience anything Class 6 or above is fine, Amazon has a class 10 16GB for a good price.
I personally would not use a class 10 for anything other than movies, music, and pictures. They are awful at small random IO.
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rmm200 said:
I personally would not use a class 10 for anything other than movies, music, and pictures. They are awful at small random IO.
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Why? Not disputing you; just trying to learn.
rmm200 said:
I personally would not use a class 10 for anything other than movies, music, and pictures. They are awful at small random IO.
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But would work with a CLASS 4?
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But would work with a CLASS 4?
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No, it will not work with ANY SD card.
There is no Micro SD slot.
There is no expandable memory.
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No, it will not work with ANY SD card.
There is no Micro SD slot.
There is no expandable memory.
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I believe the OP knows that, I think they are looking for a microSD to use with a card reader.
Nospin said:
I believe the OP knows that, I think they are looking for a microSD to use with a card reader.
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Ah, way to make myself look stupid. I wanted to make sure he didn't glance over the posts, since it seemed he only focussed on the speed issue.
And it turns out, I glanced over the OP's post too quickly myself.
Can somebody confirm Nexus 7 can handle a 64GB MicroSD card? Much obliged.
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No, it will not work with ANY SD card.
There is no Micro SD slot.
There is no expandable memory.
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Realy?
I think its implicity talking about micro sd on N7 FORUM means that the otg adapter is include
For those who knows what im talking about any help will be apreciated
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Realy?
I think its implicity talking about micro sd on N7 FORUM means that the otg adapter is include
For those who knows what im talking about any help will be apreciated
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Yes, as you can see just above, I already admitted to being an idiot.
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Yes, as you can see just above, I already admitted to being an idiot.
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Lol, its ok
I just want to know if a class 4 will work nice for movies and games?
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Lol, its ok
I just want to know if a class 4 will work nice for movies and games?
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For movies you shouldn't have a problem. Probably okay for games too if it is just the extra asset data. Now getting a game to install on an external SD card is a whole other story, you might need to manually copy it over and create symlinks. Could be a bit of trouble.
When the Nexus was first out I heard there were problems getting apps to see movies on an OTG storage, I think there was a root solution to that, but I am not sure. There might even be a simpler solution since then.
Note: I've not done any of this myself, just basing it on my general knowledge on how Android and Linux works.
Using a cheap OTG cable and a generic SD Card (full size; not micro) Reader, I can play movies just fine. Since full size SD are cheaper per gb than micro, I'm not sure why anyone would want to use micro cards, but whatever floats your boat. My N7 is rooted, but stock. I installed StickMount. All my cards are Class 10 or UHS 1
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I did not paid attention when people started to complain about the low memory matter and ended up buying a 16GB i9500, now that I know what's the problem is there an alternative for this? what do you recommend ?
Get a micro sd card and u r good to go
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Like what Saad2687 said. My advise dont get scandisk though. I have samsung 32 gig class 10 and its amazing.
Yes I got a 32GB Samsung, but the thing is with the installations and all the bloat, is there something I can do? With my S3 I used aroma debloater it was awesome it left my phone free of non useful stuff.
Brother i am infact using sandisk 32gb class 10 micro sd from past 20 days and its great no problems at all.
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Use onboard storage only for apps and move media (photos, songs, videos) and documents onto SD card. But dont cheap out to buy any no name or cheap class 4 card. Class 10 is a must.
Root ya phone and grab titanium backup. You can uninstall about 900mb of crap such as eye scrolling etc...
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This is the one i bought.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Micro...0224244&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+32gb+micro+sd
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I did not paid attention when people started to complain about the low memory matter and ended up buying a 16GB i9500, now that I know what's the problem is there an alternative for this? what do you recommend ?
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As the others said, get a SD card. Also VERY helpful is Folder Mount as it lets you remap the /sdcard/Android folder from the internal memory to the external SD card which gets around the problem that most apps want to store everything inside those folders or directly in /sdcard.
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Root ya phone and grab titanium backup. You can uninstall about 900mb of crap such as eye scrolling etc...
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As the others said, get a SD card. Also VERY helpful is Folder Mount as it lets you remap the /sdcard/Android folder from the internal memory to the external SD card which gets around the problem that most apps want to store everything inside those folders or directly in /sdcard.
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Thanks I'll give it a try. that's what I was looking for.
Got myself a 64gb Samsung pro microsd and moved all my images/videos/music.
I only use my internal storage for apps.
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Thanks I'll give it a try. that's what I was looking for.
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By the way, be sure to read the guide on what is safe to uninstall before you go ahead.
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munkyboy said:
I did not paid attention when people started to complain about the low memory matter and ended up buying a 16GB i9500, now that I know what's the problem is there an alternative for this? what do you recommend ?
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32 GB external SD Card
Move anything that isn't apps (music, movies, any extra files) onto the external SD card. Get at least a 32gb and you should be golden.
Save to the SD instead internal memory
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Thanks I'll give it a try. that's what I was looking for.
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How do I redirect just the pictures and videos to my SD without rooting????? any ideas????
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I did not paid attention when people started to complain about the low memory matter and ended up buying a 16GB i9500, now that I know what's the problem is there an alternative for this? what do you recommend ?
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get another 16/32 Gig card, that should suffice.
i am suing sandisk 16 gig for the past 1 year and no issues till now, and most of the times its a life saver as i keep everything in my sd card (music pic etc)...
My setup which 16gb users might like.
My phone is 16gb
My sdcard is 32gb
But thays not enough space so i added an extra 64gb via usb
The method to mount usb is OTG in a modified case.
(*please note just use the usb when you need it as it obviously drains battery faster)
Here is a image of modified case
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Use foldermount to switch game data to my 64 gb class 10 sd card.
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Use foldermount to switch game data to my 64 gb class 10 sd card.
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This didn't work for me.
/sdcard is a link to /storage/emulated/0
that's internal mounted fuse
/storage/extSdCard is real sdcard mounted normally.
It's 4.2s storage problem
in previous versions it was as.simple.as editing fstab.
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I don't really put a lot of stuff on my phone as I have a separate mp3 player on me at all times, so the space taken up by bloat wasn't really a problem. I already had a 32GB card on me though so I slapped that in.
I had to delete sonic 2 just to update it. We need to be able to save to flash sticks. If they don't fix these soon they will start losing money.
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I had to delete sonic 2 just to update it. We need to be able to save to flash sticks. If they don't fix these soon they will start losing money.
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try enabling the "Mount SD Card" feature.
I there is any way to connect external HDD in NTFS
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try enabling the "Mount SD Card" feature.
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This thing doesn't have a SD card. I think that's just a left over from the jellybean is.
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You can mount NTFS drives out of the box.
And you can use an app to move data files off to the HDD to save space.
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You can mount NTFS drives out of the box.
And you can use an app to move data files off to the HDD to save space.
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Are you shure that I can mount my Seagate 1Tb NTFS out of the box?
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Are you shure that I can mount my Seagate 1Tb NTFS out of the box?
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Yes, but just to explain what is meant by mount in this case is that the OUYA reads it in it's internal file structure. Without doing more, you can only transfer files or read FROM an NTFS hard drive. You cannot WRITE to an NTSF drive currently, nor can you use it for extra APP storage, without doing more with different apps and stuff, I'm not really sure of the process.
I am currently using a 1TB Western Digital HDD full of PS1/Genesis/SNES ROM's.
We need to be able to write and read to the USB stick. Using the ouya os.
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You can use link2sd but you need to create a second partition ext4 for that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2345680
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Yes, but just to explain what is meant by mount in this case is that the OUYA reads it in it's internal file structure. Without doing more, you can only transfer files or read FROM an NTFS hard drive. You cannot WRITE to an NTSF drive currently, nor can you use it for extra APP storage, without doing more with different apps and stuff, I'm not really sure of the process.
I am currently using a 1TB Western Digital HDD full of PS1/Genesis/SNES ROM's.
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Thanks. That is exactly what I need. You make My day. I need Read only from external HDD.
I tried it and its amazing. I wach 4Gb movie via MX player without lagging))
Also listen to musik and watch FOTO (is it any good program for android to watch foto (aka ACDsee?)??)