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[Q] Replace the ROM but keep stock recovery

I'd like to enable the encryption, and I've been told you need stock recovery for that. How can I root the N4 and install CM10.1 but keep the stock recovery, and encryption working? To add extra complexity, I only have access to OS X 10.8.2 at home and at work.
Thanks!
PS: Please make this n00b friendly.

fbiryujin said:
I'd like to enable the encryption, and I've been told you need stock recovery for that. How can I root the N4 and install CM10.1 but keep the stock recovery, and encryption working? To add extra complexity, I only have access to OS X 10.8.2 at home and at work.
Thanks!
PS: Please make this n00b friendly.
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Not sure about the encryption part, that would be the first time I have ever heard that. Why you would need a stock recovery? But you can fastboot boot recovery instead of fastboot flash the recovery.

fbiryujin said:
I'd like to enable the encryption, and I've been told you need stock recovery for that. How can I root the N4 and install CM10.1 but keep the stock recovery, and encryption working? To add extra complexity, I only have access to OS X 10.8.2 at home and at work.
Thanks!
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No way buddy!

BigDig said:
No way buddy!
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So you can't have a custom rom and still use the encryption?
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fbiryujin said:
So you can't have a custom rom and still use the encryption?
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No, you can`t have a custom rom and stock recovery. You need custom recovery to flash custom rom....

BigDig said:
No, you can`t have a custom rom and stock recovery. You need custom recovery to flash custom rom....
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I believe that is incorrect. You can fastboot boot recovery instead of fastboot flash recovery then flash whatever you want afaik anyway. I have never used fastboot boot for anything other then to flash the su zip but i see no reason why it wouldnt work. The real question is why would you want to?

I want to have the full encryption enabled since this is a work device but. I heard it doesn't work with custom recovery.
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BigDig said:
No, you can`t have a custom rom and stock recovery. You need custom recovery to flash custom rom....
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fbiryujin said:
I want to have the full encryption enabled since this is a work device but. I heard it doesn't work with custom recovery.
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I have been told twrp does support it thou its still untested. The dev doesn't have a nexus 4 to test with but he did say it works on the n7
regardless thou, all that would mean is you might not be able to backup a rom thats encrypted if twrp don't work. It has nothing to do with anything else. you cant make a backup on a stock recovery anyway

trentreed said:
i have been told twrp does support it thou its still untested. The dev doesnt have a nexus 4 to test with but he did say it works on the n7
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Ok I'll try it and see what happens. Thanks
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Flashed wrong twrp...

Ok... I have been reading way to much today, to the point i did something rather noobish.
Was in the dev section TWRP thread specifically looking to downgrade fron 2.6 to 2.5, saw the last post where someone posted a dropbox link of 2.5. Thought "how convenient" and flashed. But the zip was for another model number, now i cant get into my recovery.
Odin flash of the stock image is always an option. But one that I would prefer to avoid it if at all possible. I was hoping that someone else out there was well... as stupid as I am, and maybe had some advice?
Is there any possibility that goo manager will simply over right the wrong recovery image with the proper?
Or is it by any chance possible to simply flash the TWRP ZIP with Odin?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, and I already know that I'm a burnout lol.
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Just flash the 2.5 twrp zip in twrp. It'll down grade

Goo should over write it, and just to make sure ..you have the i337m -Non att variant. Youll have to see if anybody has a non loki version if twrp 2.5
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jd1639 said:
Just flash the 2.5 twrp zip in twrp. It'll down grade
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That's the problem... Cant get into recovery anymore.
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mg2195 said:
Goo should over write it, and just to make sure ..you have the i337m -Non att variant. Youll have to see if anybody has a non loki version if twrp 2.5
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Yeah, was hoping someone would say that. My thoughts were the same. But after that last bout of stupidity, i guess I wanted to hear it from someone else...
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celkin said:
Yeah, was hoping someone would say that. My thoughts were the same. But after that last bout of stupidity, i guess I wanted to hear it from someone else...
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Can you get goomanager to install it?
Tylor
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Can you use odin to flash the correct twrp with a .tar file?

Tylorw1 said:
Can you get goomanager to install it?
Tylor
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Yeah, just finished a backup/restore after goo re installed 2.6.
Everything seems fine. Just with so many "brick" threads on here wanted to be careful.

The bricks revolve mostly around the newest update that locks the boot loader on the at&t s4. On the m non at&ti believe you just need a non Loki kernel but I am not positive.
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
The bricks revolve mostly around the newest update that locks the boot loader on the at&t s4. On the m non at&ti believe you just need a non Loki kernel but I am not positive.
Tylor
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If it's I337m or M919, Loki or not, it doesn't matter...

My phone is bootloader unlocked from the start from what i understand its the Canadian Rogers varient.
Im just now after reading countless threads wraping my head round this device. Its way more complex of a situation then the note 2 (previous phone).
My understanding is that we stay away from anything loki'd.
2 days in and im still not comfortable flashing any rom 4.2 or 4.3 lol. Another day or two of reading :-\
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celkin said:
My phone is bootloader unlocked from the start from what i understand its the Canadian Rogers varient.
Im just now after reading countless threads wraping my head round this device. Its way more complex of a situation then the note 2 (previous phone).
My understanding is that we stay away from anything loki'd.
2 days in and im still not comfortable flashing any rom 4.2 or 4.3 lol. Another day or two of reading :-\
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Ponder that, a canuck is less subject to tyranny? Your bootloader isn't locked? NICE! AT&T has degenerated from American Telephone and Telegraph into a globalized melting pot of greed and required upgrade costs and technical support that uses broken English spoken by people in India. You Canadians luck out this time!
I jumped in with motochopper to get root back in May and had the AT&T Software update service frozen with Titanium Backup back in June, I was so lucky to be "on top of it" by reading this forum. I used "Casual" to obtain TWRP 2.5.0.2 a custom recovery. I've never seen it so easy. After burning an image 3.56 GB of my stock firmware, I have since deleted it from my handset and replaced it with a nandroid of my daily driver here because GoldenEye is flawless. I saved a copy of the stock firmware on my desktop computer just in case, but I doubt I'll ever flash it and all of it's horrendous bloatware.
So I'm a happy camper, that only suffers the jone'sen for a fix as a "flash junkie". I will try CyanogenMod on this S4 after they iron the kinks out.

Looks like you're ok now?
FYI for anyone else in similar situation, ROM Toolbox Pro can download and install recoveries as well. It can access TWRP as well as CWM recoveries. A bonus for TWRP, it detects 2.5.0.2 as latest (avoid the occasional Teamwin splash screen hang with 2.6)!
I used this method to downgrade from 2.6 to 2.5.0.2. :good:

Word of warning, why upgrade from a working twrp 2.5.0.2, when it works flawless? Sometimes upgrading to a newer, is not always the best...look at the XDA app....yikes...

bo8 said:
Looks like you're ok now?
FYI for anyone else in similar situation, ROM Toolbox Pro can download and install recoveries as well. It can access TWRP as well as CWM recoveries. A bonus for TWRP, it detects 2.5.0.2 as latest (avoid the occasional Teamwin splash screen hang with 2.6)!
I used this method to downgrade from 2.6 to 2.5.02. :good:
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All good thanks
Will Rom toolbox screw anything up if i install TWRP 2.5 over goo's install of 2.6?
I dont trust 2.6... Too many glitches for me and not having faith in your recovery is a scary thing...
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celkin said:
All good thanks
Will Rom toolbox screw anything up if i install TWRP 2.5 over goo's install of 2.6?
I dont trust 2.6... Too many glitches for me and not having faith in your recovery is a scary thing...
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You're very welcome! I initially had TWRP 2.6 installed via rooting procedure (one-click method) and recently had ROM Toolbox flash TWRP 2.5.0.2 over it. No probs. Did full nandroid after it.
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Wrong twrp flashed
Dear friend wrong twrp for my device I'm not able to go to the boot menu, how can i get rid of this, help me please. I've my stack memory and kernel already backup in my device memory.

The phone is an att i337? If it is, I assume the bootloader is unlocked since you were able like to flash a custom recovery.

i have no twrp AND I am stuck in boot loop...............................what will I do

Boot into download mode and confirm the phone's model number. Then flash a stock ROM from sammobile.com with Odin to get the phone back to stock.

G2 recover and rom questions.

I will be trading my iphone 5 on Monday for a Verizon G2 On the 12B build. I have been out of the android thing for a year now. I know how to root the phone but the Loki and recovery stuff is very new to me.
Main questions are how do I install a recovery that bypasses the boot loader and allows full flashing. TWRP is preferable but if CWM is better on this phone that's fine. What is Loki exactly and once I install a a Loki recovery can I install any kernels/ ROMs that I want? Please provide me with a step by step and links to stuff you think I need to know. I really appreciate your help.
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Last android I had was a Razr Maxx so I am used to safe strap. This seems very different.
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SimsDelt said:
Last android I had was a Razr Maxx so I am used to safe strap. This seems very different.
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You can flash custom roms and recovery without thinking about the bootloader. It's supposedly locked, but nothing to worry about.
Just root, flash custom recovery and flash custom rom. Any recovery will do, and TWRP is my favourite as well
If you decide you want to root and put a custom recovery on it there are two things to consider.
1. NEVER accept an OTA update. Not even if it promises you two tickets to the land of the unicorns. Don't!
2. Back up everything. And your EFS partition. And save it. Not on your device. Heck, make 5 copies and put one copy on an USB-dongle, another on your computer, the third under your bed, the fourth in your wallet and make a bank account in Switzerland for the fifth. The EFS partition contains crucial informations about your device. If you by accident delete it when flashing a custom rom, you turned your phone into a 5.2 inch tablet. And there's no way of getting it back. You might never need it, but if you do, you will thank yourself for having made that backup!

Thanks for the info. What way do you recommend to flash recovery? GooManager or other app. Or some other method? and also do you use your recovery to backup the efs partition or something else?
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SimsDelt said:
Thanks for the info. What way do you recommend to flash recovery? GooManager or other app. Or some other method? and also do you use your recovery to backup the efs partition or something else?
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I personally haven't rooted this G2 yet, but TWRP offers the ability to back up your EFS.
Have a look here for backing up EFS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451390
You can use flashify to install TWRP, should be pretty easy and straightforward

Great. Is there a thread here on using flashify? I'm unfamiliar with that.
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SimsDelt said:
Great. Is there a thread here on using flashify? I'm unfamiliar with that.
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There might be. Check this out though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTJI9ThY0mk

Ok. Thanks. I googled it too and found a thread elsewhere with a step by step
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SimsDelt said:
Ok. Thanks. I googled it too and found a thread elsewhere with a step by step
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I guess if you flash a custom rom then that will cure the OTA issue

Hi All,
I just rooted my verizon G2 using ioroot19 and the instructions from the dev thread. When I then used clockwork rom manager to flash the vs980 verson of clockworkmod recovery. The flash said it worked but when I tried to get in I got the android with the red! I then followed the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449670 both methods 1 and 2, but now all I get when I try to get into recovery is a black screen. The phone still boots fine, but nothing seems to work for the recovery.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Don't use rom manager. It doesn't work on our phones. Use flashify or freegee to install a recovery
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tdevaughn said:
Don't use rom manager. It doesn't work on our phones. Use flashify or freegee to install a recovery
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When I flash TWRP with Freegee. Will my phone still be able to boot into my stock ROM or will I only boot into recovery and need to flash a ROM?
Do you prefer Freegee or Flashify?

You can boot into your stock rom
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Do I need to Backup my EFS before flashing TWRP or after?

Zarek1 said:
Do I need to Backup my EFS before flashing TWRP or after?
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After mate, you can do it from TWRP
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SimsDelt said:
I will be trading my iphone 5 on Monday for a Verizon G2 On the 12B build. I have been out of the android thing for a year now. I know how to root the phone but the Loki and recovery stuff is very new to me.
Main questions are how do I install a recovery that bypasses the boot loader and allows full flashing. TWRP is preferable but if CWM is better on this phone that's fine. What is Loki exactly and once I install a a Loki recovery can I install any kernels/ ROMs that I want? Please provide me with a step by step and links to stuff you think I need to know. I really appreciate your help.
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Use freegee. it will do the trick on a rooted phone. It is made by Shelnutt2. You can use the free or paid version but the paid version is cheap and you will support future development.
It is one of the best ways of installing TWRP/CWM on the LG G2.
Paid version (use this one)
Free version

Freegee worked great. Thanks!

How to CyanogenMod without Root

I read on a page that its possible to use CyanogenMod without root but i dont know how ? Is there a way and when yes how ?
Thank you
(And sorry for my bad english)
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bengrmn said:
I read on a page that its possible to use CyanogenMod without root but i dont know how ? Is there a way and when yes how ?
Thank you
(And sorry for my bad english)
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Unless there is a theme style then there isn't a way.
Also you should have posted this here to get an answer to your query.

Your topic heading makes it seem like it's a how-to xD you might wanna be a bit more careful with the headings...
Also, I'm 99.99% sure you cannot install CM without rooting. Well, you might be able to just flash recovery and flash CM on it, but I won't advise something I haven't done
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bengrmn said:
I read on a page that its possible to use CyanogenMod without root but i dont know how ? Is there a way and when yes how ?
Thank you
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go into dev options and disable root access and you will be able to use CM without root, not sure why you would wanna do that..but its possible :silly:
PS- btw questions go in the Q&A section...
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...Also, I'm 99.99% sure you cannot install CM without rooting. Well, you might be able to just flash recovery and flash CM on it, but I won't advise something I haven't done
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rooting before flashing a custom rom is useless, flashing recovery and then flashing a custom rom is how it should be done.. but ppl have just made rooting one of the steps, and now new users think rooting is actually necessary to flash a custom rom..

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Khizar said:
rooting before flashing a custom rom is useless, flashing recovery and then flashing a custom rom is how it should be done.. but ppl have just made rooting one of the steps, and now new users think rooting is actually necessary to flash a custom rom..
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I've almost given up on successfully rooting and installing custom ROM on my Galaxy Note3 (N900V) It seemed that there were roadblocks at every method that I thought would work with my Verizon Note 3. The above quote suggest (to me) that rooting is no longer necessary but that it can be done simply by flashing a recovery (CWM or TWRP??) and then flashing the custom ROM.
Instructions usually assume a Windows computer to flash via usb cable. I'm running Linux so where can a find a step by step guide that will let me install Cyanogenmod or some other custom ROM that will let me debloat, and perhaps improve function on my Note 3 which I plan to be keeping for the foreseeable future.
krustybaguette

Suggest you ask in the forum for your model .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574886

Doesn't the Verizon version of the Note 3 have a locked bootloader that must be unlocked before flashing TWRP or a non-TW based ROM? Heimdall can flash TWRP in Linux: http://glassechidna.com.au/heimdall/

Doesn't the Verizon version of the Note 3 have a locked bootloader
yes its locked .

Questions about CyanogenMod

Hey guys, I'm new here.Soon my new Nexus4 will arrive and i have some questions about installing cyanogenmod.
1.Can I install cyanogenmod with the new cm installer on this device??
2.If this is possible and i install cyanogenmod, how do i update the version if a newer one is released ??
3.I red that the cm intaller install a custom recovery too, if i dont like the cyanogen mod can i install other roms or i must do something before ??
4.If i use this cm installer i know that i will lose my warranty, am i right ?? And if yes, is there any posiblity to restore the phone to original state (i mean lock back the bootloader and others) ?
Thanks

On the same page of this forum is a Cyanogenmod Q & A thread, I would start there and READ.
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I prefer installing ROMs through a custom recovery because you can unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery without disturbing the phone's existing ROM.

AndyTimE said:
Hey guys, I'm new here.Soon my new Nexus4 will arrive and i have some questions about installing cyanogenmod.
1.Can I install cyanogenmod with the new cm installer on this device??
2.If this is possible and i install cyanogenmod, how do i update the version if a newer one is released ??
3.I red that the cm intaller install a custom recovery too, if i dont like the cyanogen mod can i install other roms or i must do something before ??
4.If i use this cm installer i know that i will lose my warranty, am i right ?? And if yes, is there any posiblity to restore the phone to original state (i mean lock back the bootloader and others) ?
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1) Yes
2) In Settings there will be an update option, you can also flash ZIP by downloading them from (http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=mako)
3) Yes, you can install other ROMS and gapps from recovery.
4) Yes, you can use google's stock images to restore your phone to original state.

whitemolecule said:
1) Yes
2) In Settings there will be an update option, you can also flash ZIP by downloading them from (http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=mako)
3) Yes, you can install other ROMS and gapps from recovery.
4) Yes, you can use google's stock images to restore your phone to original state.
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Thanks a lot man. So about restoring at point the 4th question. Just flash in cwm a the stock rom and that's it?

AndyTimE said:
Thanks a lot man. So about restoring at point the 4th question. Just flash in cwm a the stock rom and that's it?
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Not actually, you need to flash it via fastboot after installing device drivers from your computer. Which is a small tool that comes with Android SDK. (You can find it everywhere)
But I am sure there are flashable recovery ZIPs for stock ROMs on this forum.

AndyTimE said:
Thanks a lot man. So about restoring at point the 4th question. Just flash in cwm a the stock rom and that's it?
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Here's a link to WUG's toolkit that can help with your Nexus 4: http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/

Being that you're a noob (just like me) you may want to try flashing things with the android SDK instead of a toolkit (not saying it's bad, I've actually never used it). I just started messing with my nexus 4 using the SDK and some of the write ups here and found them really helpful and I learned a lot. Then again, if you consider yourself computer illiterate (not saying you are, your choice) you may WANT to use the toolkit. Just my .02.
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whitemolecule said:
Not actually, you need to flash it via fastboot after installing device drivers from your computer. Which is a small tool that comes with Android SDK. (You can find it everywhere)
But I am sure there are flashable recovery ZIPs for stock ROMs on this forum.
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By using that CM installer to unlock bootloadder and install cwm and cyanogenmod, is there any change to brick the device or any incompatiblities ?? Just take the phone out of box install that CM app on the phone and on the pc and start ??
Edit: The app is no more in playstore, from where can i take that official app ??

You can take it from get.cm
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AndyTimE said:
By using that CM installer to unlock bootloadder and install cwm and cyanogenmod, is there any change to brick the device or any incompatiblities ?? Just take the phone out of box install that CM app on the phone and on the pc and start ??
Edit: The app is no more in playstore, from where can i take that official app ??
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You can download app as an apk file from their site: http://beta.download.cyanogenmod.org/install
It is a Nexus device, so it is hard to brick it.
I have been using custom ROMS from first day I bought the device and I haven't got a problem. As I said you can revert back to stock ROM or just try another ROM.
No one can warrant you that everything will work and there is always a chance of brick, but not too much if you do everything right.

so just update to latest official version of kitkat and then i use that cm installer without anything to do before like root or unlock bootloader ?