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[Q] Should I be afraid of KNOX?

Hello.
I know this might have been asked a million times already but I'm gonna ask anyway..
Should I be afriad of KNOX?
I would like to root, customize stock rom, try custom roms, flash CWM recovery & kernels etc.
but I heard and read that flashing, modifies KNOX which voids the phone's warranty but I would like to have my phone's warranty.
So should I try anything?
Is there any way to revert KNOX back to default?

KNOX doesn't carry a gun around, so no don't be afraid of it.
By rooting and doing all the things you mentioned above, you void the warranty of any phone dat has warranty on it. Samsung is only trying to protect themselves. So they don't fix more faults dat were caused by users... So, security for Samsung. And NO, it can't be reset. At least, not yet. However, there are ways to avoid tripping it. Do some research urself. I own Exynos Note 3. Cheers!

MariosFFX said:
Hello.
I know this might have been asked a million times already but I'm gonna ask anyway..
Should I be afriad of KNOX?
I would like to root, customize stock rom, try custom roms, flash CWM recovery & kernels etc.
but I heard and read that flashing, modifies KNOX which voids the phone's warranty but I would like to have my phone's warranty.
So should I try anything?
Is there any way to revert KNOX back to default?
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no way to revert KNOX back ,you can root knox save but you cant flash roms kernels or cwm

I'm not afraid and I love the freedom!
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

jaythenut said:
no way to revert KNOX back ,you can root knox save but you cant flash roms kernels or cwm
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1 .Safely root using de la vega root without tripping KNOX
2. Safely custom rom using kn0x0ut Toolbox without tripping KNOX
Others will trigger knox :good:

You could get hit by a bus this week , Flash and enjoy the phone.
Same applies with life ( No flashing necessary )

Ry2mkk said:
Same applies with life ( No flashing necessary )
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Thgough theres danger involved there too if you do flash....:silly::laugh:

Well, I have previously rooted my phone without tripping the knox. I didn't flash any custom recovery, firmware or kernels, though.
Now, unrelated to knox, my phone started to behave strangely (reboot loops on charging and erratic signal reception) - some device problem I guess - , and since I have not tripped the knox, I'm going to take the phone to the service centre for a replacement, hopefully free of charge, since it's been only 2 months since I bought it.
Using an International SM-N9005.

I guess if some manufacturing defects cropped up, not related to the flashing of custom firmwares and so on, within the warranty period, and if the knox is tripped, it may be troublesome to replace/repair free of charge. That's the only downside I can see by tripping the knox within the warranty period.

[Q] knox warranty 0x1

My phone is S4-i337M.with samsung MVLUEMK6 4.3.
After rooting or installing CWM in ODIN i noticed that knox warranty shows 0x1.
Phone boots normally - no issue. It safely can go to download mode.
Question: Is it OK to install custom roms without outright chance of bricking. (I understand the risk of bricking with any modification)
Thanks in advance.

Any suggestion, please?

Yes, you can install custom roms even though Knox has been tripped.
Sent from my Nexus 5

jd1639 said:
Yes, you can install custom roms even though Knox has been tripped.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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+1
You might as well go all out and install custom everything, since Knox is already tripped anyway.

[Q] Optimal way to root G900F? Sticky suggests using rootkit; is Towelroot better?

Just got a new S5 and I've been out of the scene for a while.
Can someone point me in the direction of some up to date info/guide? I've been scouring xda for 30 mins now and can't figure out the best way to get Recovery and Root.
Bonus question: I've read that using a rootkit irreversibly increases a counter from 0x0 to 0x1 whereas TowelRoot does not. Is this true?

check your kernel version first. if its date is lower than 3rd June then TowelRoot will not trigger KNOX. but if its later than 3rd June any method used to root will trigger KNOX to 0x1
Custom kernel and recovery are out of the question. They will trigger KNOX no matter whatever you do as of now.

wajiman said:
check your kernel version first. if its date is lower than 3rd June then TowelRoot will not trigger KNOX. but if its later than 3rd June any method used to root will trigger KNOX to 0x1
Custom kernel and recovery are out of the question. They will trigger KNOX no matter whatever you do as of now.
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Thursday May 8th. Does this mean I should go with TowelRoot? Or are you saying it doesn't matter as I intend to enable recovery anyway?

kelevra7 said:
Thursday May 8th. Does this mean I should go with TowelRoot? Or are you saying it doesn't matter as I intend to enable recovery anyway?
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you can use towelroot, knox wont be tripped as the kernel version is less than 3rd june.
but if you flash custom recovery or kernel knox will get tripped as of now. And as you intend to enable recovery anyway, so it means you are willing to get knox tirpped hence you can use any way to root

I can confirm that towelroot will not trip knox on G900F.
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wajiman said:
you can use towelroot, knox wont be tripped as the kernel version is less than 3rd june.
but if you flash custom recovery or kernel knox will get tripped as of now. And as you intend to enable recovery anyway, so it means you are willing to get knox tirpped hence you can use any way to root
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Thanks for the clarification. So I'm now going to install TowelRoot, and then install TWRP from the play store. You're saying that it is only after I install TWRP that KNOX will get tripped? Even though TWRP is now official (in the play store)?
Have I got the order right?

kelevra7 said:
Thanks for the clarification. So I'm now going to install TowelRoot, and then install TWRP from the play store. You're saying that it is only after I install TWRP that KNOX will get tripped? Even though TWRP is now official (in the play store)?
Have I got the order right?
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Yup, all non stock stuff like custom recovery`s and kernels will trip KNOX to 0x1 permanantly if flashed with (Mobile) Odin.

kelevra7 said:
Thanks for the clarification. So I'm now going to install TowelRoot, and then install TWRP from the play store. You're saying that it is only after I install TWRP that KNOX will get tripped? Even though TWRP is now official (in the play store)?
Have I got the order right?
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AFAIK yes

gee2012 said:
Yup, all non stock stuff like custom recovery`s and kernels will trip KNOX to 0x1 permanantly if flashed with (Mobile) Odin.
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Aaaah. That makes sense. I've just seen that in SuperSU I can disable KNOX. If I do that, install CM11 and reenable KNOX will it still show 0x1?
Would you also mind confirming that I've got the right idea about what comes next:
1. Install towelroot.
2. Install SuperSU.
3. Update SU binaries (disabling KNOX in the process).
4. Install TWRP from Playstore
5. Flash CM11
Do I need to back up my EFS partition first or will this be covered by restoring to Stock ROM (should I need to do so)?
Also this process means I don't even need Odin. Is this correct?!

kelevra7 said:
Aaaah. That makes sense. I've just seen that in SuperSU I can disable KNOX. If I do that, install CM11 and reenable KNOX will it still show 0x1?
Would you also mind confirming that I've got the right idea about what comes next:
1. Install towelroot.
2. Install SuperSU.
3. Update SU binaries (disabling KNOX in the process).
4. Install TWRP from Playstore
5. Flash CM11
Do I need to back up my EFS partition first or will this be covered by restoring to Stock ROM (should I need to do so)?
Also this process means I don't even need Odin. Is this correct?!
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Step 4 will always trip KNOX unfortunately. If you only root like with steps 1 to 3 on roms with kernels build before june 3rd KNOX will remain 0x0. You simply cannot flash custom recovery`s without tripping KNOX (it will remain active and detect security breaches).

gee2012 said:
Step 4 will always trip KNOX unfortunately. If you only root like steps 1 to 3 on roms with kernels build before june 3rd KNOX will remain 0x0. You simply cannot flash custom recovery`s without tripping KNOX (it will remain active and detect security breaches).
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I see. So there is no way to maintain my warranty if I want to install a custom ROM? Shall I go ahead and disable KNOX through SuperSU?

kelevra7 said:
I see. So there is no way to maintain my warranty if I want to install a custom ROM? Shall I go ahead and disable KNOX through SuperSU?
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Look here for a KNOX explanation (different levels) http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/. You can root your decice with TR and disable KNOX notifications showing up and still keep warranty. Flashing custom recovery`s will trip KNOX.
Warranty is also region dependent, for instance rooting a device in the EU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801 doesn`t void warranty by law. Look how rooting is handled in your region.

gee2012 said:
Look here for a KNOX explanation (different levels) http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/. You can root your decice with TR and disable KNOX notifications showing up and still keep warranty. Flashing custom recovery`s will trip KNOX.
Warranty is also region dependent, for instance rooting a device in the EU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801 doesn`t void warranty by law. Look how rooting is handled in your region.
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Thanks this is a great link. Very helpful. I have subsequently 'disabled' KNOX through SuperSU even though I'm doubtful this will really do anything with regard to my warranty. I'm already set on flashing a custom ROM so flashing TWRP is a must for me.
P.S. I've only just realised CM11 isn't available for the S5. Can you recommend any custom ROMS other than Omega and Alliance? What do you use?

can i install twrp recovery without tripping knox?

i rooted my device using towelroot. the knox counter still shows 0x0.
is there any way to install twrp recovery without tripping knox?
cheers experts
edit: (so that i can backup my stock rom) yes, i know i can reflash stock rom without tripping knox, but want to try the non-knox tripping instructions to flash custom rom, having a complete backup before i do

would it be possible to use this app to install twrp without tripping knox?

Hi,
Installing anything "Custom" , will trip the knox counter

malybru said:
Hi,
Installing anything "Custom" , will trip the knox counter
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Well on the i9505, few TW based custom roms dont trip knox
But yeah any custom recovery or kernel will trip knox
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KK(TowelRoot Knox 0x0) to LP5.1.1(keep root?)

Was looking at some random threads and found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60775776&postcount=5
Any tutorial on how to do this?
Also is there any value in keeping KNOX 0x0 now that my warranty has expired? It's not that the S5 can use Samsung Pay right? It needs that MFE(?) chip?
Thanks

poop

If you have KitKat on your phone, you can follow this guide.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2843044
You will be able to towelroot your device and flash a pre rooted lollipop firmware.
If you want to flash and root the latest Lollipop firmware for your device, you need to towelroot while still on KitKat, and then use Flashfire to flash (and root) your chosen LP firmware......
The Flashfire thread will help guide you....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3075433
Concerning the value of keeping Knox at 0x0, that depends entirely on what you want to do with your phone......
Yes, Knox has a direct bearing on warranty, but as you said, your warranty has expired, so that doesn't matter.
It also has a bearing on whether you can use your device on business (enterprise) networks.....tripped Knox = no access.
If you decide to go back to full official, tripped Knox has been known to impact OTA......Tripped Knox = no OTA Upgrade
Don't quote me on this last one, but I *think* I've read that tripping knox breaks S Health functionality......I may be wrong on that one though.....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

I've tripped knox, and my S Health works fine.

24fan4life said:
I've tripped knox, and my S Health works fine.
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Thanks for the input @24fan4life, good to know......
OP.....The rest of the advice still stands unless anybody knows of anything else affected by knox......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg