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I'm new to android phones. In fact, other than reading about them, my only experience with them is playing with the evo 4g for about 10 minutes. I was surprised at the significant stuttering while trying to scroll through lists. It made navigating the sprint tv application very very frustrating. Scrolling through the browser settings was also very annoying because of the stutter. Is this normal for android phones? Is it normal for the evo? Is there some way to fix it?
Right now I have an iphone 3g. I'm not happy with having to jailbreak my iphone just to get some basic functionality that I need. I'm afraid that with the iphone 4 won't even be able to turn on a jail broken phone without plugging it into a computer, so I really am looking for an android device, but this scrolling stutter might be a deal breaker, if it is normal.
Demo models are always torn up and not typical.
I really don't have any lag but I'm also rooted, removed the bloat and have a great task manager installed.
the nexus never stuttered. not a single step. the evo tends to. i think it has something to do with the bloatware that htc and sprint have filled it up with.
could be the 30 fps bug. the device is locked at displaying 30 frames per second so things could be choppy. that's the second thing i noticed about the phone. first was how fuzzy everything looked - i upgraded from a droid so that could be the reason.
I don't think its the 30fps bug. 30 fps would be perfectly acceptable. This is a stutter, not just slow frame rate.
If you're coming from an iPhone I can see how the scrolling would bother you. The iPhone is consistently 60fps in the UI at almost all times, does not suffer the choppiness of the Android UI when scrolling lists or applications. Restoring the 60fps target + Froyo should get the Android UI experience up to acceptable levels in my opinion.
It's the live wallpapers that make my app list stutter. I turned it off and it's smooth now.
madsquabbles said:
could be the 30 fps bug. the device is locked at displaying 30 frames per second so things could be choppy. that's the second thing i noticed about the phone. first was how fuzzy everything looked - i upgraded from a droid so that could be the reason.
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OMGG stop blaming a 30fps cap for the phone being laggy AT ALL. Its like every single forum if someone brings something up about the phone freezing, lagging, glitching, or not working. Some random person says "its probably because the 30fps cap". Thats not going to stop things from scrolling all in one motion.
But like others have said here, its most likely just because its a demo phone and there might of been a lot of things running. Since most people dont know how to operate android devices they dont close the program and just open everything and anything. Also htc/sprint put a lot on to the phone and bog it down. The phone will be more then operational without rooting, but if you do root, you can give the phone a big increase in speed.
The 'performance improving' ROMs seem to have a great placebo effect.
The phone stutters regardless of what rom you use. The EVO 4G is a laggy phone. It is very unimpressive.
Having sprint bloatware taking up space in your phone's flash memory does not affect performance. It is not taking up ram unless it's running, and even if it is, it will get reclaimed automatically by the operating system as needed.
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The phone stutters regardless of what rom you use. The EVO 4G is a laggy phone. It is very unimpressive.
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I seem to disagree with u there. My EVO hasnt choked once. Yeah, its a little jittery with LWP running, but without the LWP, my EVO is as smooth as can be. Not one complaint.
NovaFox238 said:
I seem to disagree with u there. My EVO hasnt choked once. Yeah, its a little jittery with LWP running, but without the LWP, my EVO is as smooth as can be. Not one complaint.
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I'm coming from an iphone 3g which had no UI lag. Opening and closing apps took longer though. Scrolling, switching homescreens, and especially scrolling the apps list seems extremely laggy on the Evo..
Try launcher pro if you refuse to root and use the custom roms.
I have virtually zero lag and free memory is always over 200 mb
I'll agree, I just came from an iPhone 3gs and one of the first things I noticed was that the Evo wasn't as smooth. I really like the OS but the scrolling needs to be fixed.
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Hell... I came from an iphone 2G and it scrolls smoother than my evo.
I really think it's the refresh rate.
I had a Nexus One and never noticed the stutter, though some of my iPhone-toting friends did. But the second I updated to Froyo and everything was much faster and more responsive, I could notice how much slower scrolling and switching screens on 2.1 devices was. It's just a matter of what you're used to.
I get some stuttering when scrolling. My Hero (which I still have) doesn't do this. Strange thing is that sometimes I do not see this stuttering and it's smooth as butter. My thought is that something in the background is running and eating up CPU time.
Live wallpapers seem to make a huge difference in how smooth and regular the touch screen refreshes (like scrolling). I don't have big problems with preinstalled live wallpapers by Android and HTC, but when using most downloaded live wallpapers, the difference is noticable - for example, Galactic Core and RedEye Scanner live wallpapers make scrolling noticeably choppier.
This doesn't seem to happen as much with Nexus One I have access to. I think it might the combination of the 30fps cap and the Sense UI.
Well my plan now is to wait until the iPhone 4 is jailbroken. If the evo's stutter is fixed to the point that it is like other android phones, I'll buy the evo. Of not, I'll get the iPhone unless there's a new option on sprint or AT&T.
I should say that I don't buy that the stutter is due to the 30fps cap. I know what 30fps looks like. The scroll stutter/lag hurts useability. A smooth 30fps wouldn't.
It doesn't stutter unless your running certain live wallpapers. If you use a regular wallpaper there is no stuttering. This is not a problem with EVO as I had same problem on my Nexus but after the update to froyo everything was silky smooth even with live wallpapers. So my suggestion is if it bothers you just use a regular wallpaper until froyo drops on the EVO.
Hey guys, picked up the new S5 mainly because I really didn't like the camera on the M7, and actually missed the warm un-inspiring plastic of my S3, but one thing I new I wouldn't like is TouchWiz.
Now I'm really confused as to who has been experiencing lag or not, a lot of websites say there is none, some say there is a lot, but I haven't really seen a conclusive post on XDA.
My phone lags a LOT - like sometimes if I'm typing there will be a half-second stutter whilst it recomposes itself, if I am scrolling a lot there also might be a half second hiccup, even swiping through app draws/recent apps can sometimes cause this stutter.
It a massive step back from the buttery-smooth Jelly Bean/Kit Kat I'm used to on AOSP ROMS or even Sense, but I was just wondering if this may mean my model is faulty.
Whilst you may be thinking, a half second here or there? Chill out bro! - there is one section that I know CANT be right - the camera/gallery!
My camera can take a good 5 seconds to start up sometimes, burst shots have a good 5 second delay, and generally my pictures dont look as great as I was expecting - as if the focusing doesn't do its job properly.
Sometimes after takign a picture the camera app can hang for up to 5/10 seconds or even require me to switch out and back in again - and the GALLERY IS HORRIBLE. The gallery is taking >5 seconds to boot from the camera screen and hiccups the most when swiping through.
I tried an Antutu test just to see if I was underperforming, hit 34k when other S5's hit 36k but don't really think it's all that relevant.
Anyone else with similar experiences? Is my phone perhaps faulty or shall I just suck it up until hopefully a GPE ROM comes out (PLEASE INCLUDE ULTRA POWER SAVING MODE GOOGLE/SAMSUNG - it's the only TW bloat I really like!)?
Cheers guys, it's been a while since I was last here!
nobody?
Mine can be pretty damn slow sometimes too. Try going into developer options and disabling all transitions and animations.
That might help it be a bit speedier
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I just want some feedback if this helps anyone else or makes a difference for anyone else. It seems to for me, I want to make sure its not placebo/different usage. Heat seems to be less, performance so far seems to be better.
Its just turning off Network Action Predictions in chrome settings/advanced/privacy.
Been messing around with this off, scrolling currently butter smooth in chrome on all sites, 6 tabs open, all stall loaded when switching back and forth no reloads, yet- hardly any heat. Well see if its a fluke or actually helps. Sometimes this device decieves me.
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I just want some feedback if this helps anyone else or makes a difference for anyone else. It seems to for me, I want to make sure its not placebo/different usage. Heat seems to be less, performance so far seems to be better.
Its just turning off Network Action Predictions in chrome settings/advanced/privacy.
Been messing around with this off, scrolling currently butter smooth in chrome on all sites, 6 tabs open, all stall loaded when switching back and forth no reloads, yet- hardly any heat. Well see if its a fluke or actually helps. Sometimes this device decieves me.
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Well, if its placebo its a very good one because I could swear you just made my Chrome much smoother while scrolling.
Edit: the reloading while switching tabs is still there, but much, MUCH faster.
Now, if I could say the same while switching apps... *sigh*
I just gave this a try and it did make a difference in tab reloading.
I was able to open 7 tabs without reloading compared to 4 tabs before this.
Didn't notice any difference in scrolling (which was very smooth for me anyway).
PS. I'm using adblock plus for android too which helps a lot.
di11igaf said:
I just want some feedback if this helps anyone else or makes a difference for anyone else. It seems to for me, I want to make sure its not placebo/different usage. Heat seems to be less, performance so far seems to be better.
Its just turning off Network Action Predictions in chrome settings/advanced/privacy.
Been messing around with this off, scrolling currently butter smooth in chrome on all sites, 6 tabs open, all stall loaded when switching back and forth no reloads, yet- hardly any heat. Well see if its a fluke or actually helps. Sometimes this device decieves me.
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Thanks a lot! Haven't a problem with heat, but performance definitely is better and even pages are loading faster.
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This seemed to help crome scrolling. Good find!
Overall, the performance on my Nexus is quite good, but I routinely run into stuttering on webpages in the Chrome Browser. A good example of this is theverge.com. If I wait for that website to load and scroll up and down at moderate or fast speeds, I run into some very significant stuttering.
Other webpages exhibit this problem to varying degrees, but I can almost always find some hint of it. Elsewhere on the phone, I can also see some stuttery elements, such as on the Play Store while browsing apps, or scrolling through a single app description.
Best as I can tell, these stutters seem to trigger as I am scrolling towards an image in both cases.
Anybody else experiencing this? Not sure if this is just how it is.
1. Wrong section to post....
2. Do you scroll before the page loads completely... Which case is expected...
3. I just opened theverge.com on nexus5 as 6p is still shipping... No issues... Can't really believe that 6p would stutter
4. Congrats for the new phone
No lag when scrolling on the verge for me.
I see it on Engadget but that is because their mobile site sucks and loads a couple articles at a time as you scroll. Not the phones fault there.
I haven't noticed any stutter or lag on any sites. Just when phone was installing apps on first boot.
No stuttering for me unless data is still loading in a low signal area. I often have multiple chrome tabs open and if they are fully loaded then I can scroll seamlessly.
Yeah I've experienced stutter here and there while using Chrome too. Check your cached processes to see how much free ram you have. I think mines generally smoother when I have more free ram there.
Definitely stutter and lag
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Overall, the performance on my Nexus is quite good, but I routinely run into stuttering on webpages in the Chrome Browser. A good example of this is theverge.com. If I wait for that website to load and scroll up and down at moderate or fast speeds, I run into some very significant stuttering.
Other webpages exhibit this problem to varying degrees, but I can almost always find some hint of it. Elsewhere on the phone, I can also see some stuttery elements, such as on the Play Store while browsing apps, or scrolling through a single app description.
Best as I can tell, these stutters seem to trigger as I am scrolling towards an image in both cases.
Anybody else experiencing this? Not sure if this is just how it is.
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You are not alone. I have noticed the same thing. Many instances of stutter and lag. This is definitely not a lag free device as many said it was. Chrome is fairly smooth but stutter is there sometimes. Facebook and play store are two of the worse culprits. I have tried clearing the cache, haven't factory reset because I have hardly any apps installed (no games). No phone is perfect but perormance is fairly good.
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You are not alone. I have noticed the same thing. Many instances of stutter and lag. This is definitely not a lag free device as many said it was. Chrome is fairly smooth but stutter is there sometimes. Facebook and play store are two of the worse culprits. I have tried clearing the cache, haven't factory reset because I have hardly any apps installed (no games). No phone is perfect but perormance is fairly good.
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Scrolling has almost been perfect for me . It's another story for my nexus 6 ,tho. Playstore always lags no matter what device you are browsing with. But it's barely noticeable on 6P.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/chrome-laggy-t3253466/page3 Might be this helps you
I have experienced this issue, but it seems to only happen when power-saver has kicked in (10% battery life for me).
I've seen 2 threads about lag here at Q&A but both were rather silent. However now i know i'm not the only one. My lag experience is so annoying... Like mentioned before here and here.
I have the exact same problem as mentioned in one of those threads.
LAG SHOWS WHEN:
-scrolling fast trough long list of packed SMS threads with Google messenger,
-scrolling fast through long list of comments in G+ comment section,
Might be somewhere else but i can't remember now. Funny thing is, other than that phone runs quick. Apps open quick, scrolling through settings, contacts, hangouts messages etc etc is buttery smooth... Someone mentioned playing intensive 3D games works great, so GPU shouldn't be an issue. How can some 2D list of strings f*** my phone up so bad?!
I tried almost anything. Erasing apps cache, re-flashing stock firmware, flashing custom ROM, rooting, unrooting..... Whats also weir that once or even twice i managed to work this out for a few days, so that G+ comment section was smooth as fu** but than one day it all came back. Without any apparent reason. I did not update the app or anything. I'm so confused.....
Here's a video i make to show what it looks like.
My experience:
Someone else's experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVTl3m1NMMY
I honestly think this phone has problems rendering contact photos. Just about everywhere they are there's scrolling lag due to loading the images: the contacts app, dialer, Google messenger, hangouts, etc. This never occurred on my Nexus 5.
sivarticus85 said:
I honestly think this phone has problems rendering contact photos. Just about everywhere they are there's scrolling lag due to loading the images: the contacts app, dialer, Google messenger, hangouts, etc. This never occurred on my Nexus 5.
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I just hope MM will give some results...
It's a shame with such good hardware on paper that we see this lag. My 3 year old Windows phone with Windows 10 on it is more fluid, and has much better battery to boot. ?
ryanrazer said:
I've seen 2 threads about lag here at Q&A but both were rather silent. However now i know i'm not the only one. My lag experience is so annoying... Like mentioned before here and here.
I have the exact same problem as mentioned in one of those threads.
LAG SHOWS WHEN:
-scrolling fast trough long list of packed SMS threads with Google messenger,
-scrolling fast through long list of comments in G+ comment section,
Might be somewhere else but i can't remember now. Funny thing is, other than that phone runs quick. Apps open quick, scrolling through settings, contacts, hangouts messages etc etc is buttery smooth... Someone mentioned playing intensive 3D games works great, so GPU shouldn't be an issue. How can some 2D list of strings f*** my phone up so bad?!
I tried almost anything. Erasing apps cache, re-flashing stock firmware, flashing custom ROM, rooting, unrooting..... Whats also weir that once or even twice i managed to work this out for a few days, so that G+ comment section was smooth as fu** but than one day it all came back. Without any apparent reason. I did not update the app or anything. I'm so confused.....
Here's a video i make to show what it looks like.
My experience:
Someone else's experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVTl3m1NMMY
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You think that's laggy? You haven't messed with a samsung yet. Those suckers lag way more
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eyecon82 said:
You think that's laggy? You haven't messed with a samsung yet. Those suckers lag way more
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Believe it or not, I'm coming from note 3 that phone was smooth!
However, I'm on MM now and Style has never been so smooth. I love it!
Marshmallow fixed the issue... Supper smooth!
Glad to hear marshmallow smooths things out even more. I have had some lag, but in the normal apps like Chrome, Facebook, etc. I would like to see these perform smooth scrolling as both Windows and iOS does. It's the only area I think android falls behind in. That, and standby battery life, but it seems marshmallow fixes some of that too.
jonathanbailie said:
Glad to hear marshmallow smooths things out even more. I have had some lag, but in the normal apps like Chrome, Facebook, etc. I would like to see these perform smooth scrolling as both Windows and iOS does. It's the only area I think android falls behind in. That, and standby battery life, but it seems marshmallow fixes some of that too.
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Yeah google knows how to make their apps heavy.... chrome?! RAM ?!