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hi guys
i just erased and reset my note 3 its on stock rom that it shipped with, although i have rooted the device
so right after it turns on post erase and factory reset i get the following error
unfortunately the process com.android.phone has stopped
i know other threads have been made regarding this but what im surprised about is that my phone has just been reset and is literally clean [save for the sd card in place] why would i still get this error?
d3aded said:
hi guys
i just erased and reset my note 3 its on stock rom that it shipped with, although i have rooted the device
so right after it turns on post erase and factory reset i get the following error
unfortunately the process com.android.phone has stopped
i know other threads have been made regarding this but what im surprised about is that my phone has just been reset and is literally clean [save for the sd card in place] why would i still get this error?
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Another user had a similar error, it turned out to be the sim card causing it, when he swapped it for another it worked fine and the error stopped.
radicalisto said:
Another user had a similar error, it turned out to be the sim card causing it, when he swapped it for another it worked fine and the error stopped.
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but i have been using this sim card before this restore as well without any problems
update: even removing the sim brings up the error
Try reflashing stock on it again and see what happens, maybe a bad root?
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Try taking out the SD Card also and booting up see if it still happens.
that bad-locky user is me !!!!!!!!!!!1
yes ,
i had same problem and searched on google , all the lines , the the topics and ask from most of developers on xda !!
but no one knows what is the problem .
i don't want to tell the story again , but just want to share with u , the problem is cause of the new modem ( or baseband ) !!
my sim card worked like charm on 4.3 ( my baseband was MJ7 ) , but after upgrated to polish 4.4 , after restart my phone this f*** error appear and is waiting for me to press " ok " !!
please be informed that no way back to 4.3 !!! , and this error will be remain on all custom 4.4 that are available on the xda , cause all of them are based on NA6 ... so all of them have the same baseband !!
plus , don't try to flash any 4.3 baseband on 4.4 , i did that before and (( thanks god my phone is still alive )) i thought my phone was fu*** up !! every time i rebooted my phone , it had rebooted twice !!! first time came up with the error and after 3 sec it rebooted by itself and come up without error !!!!! + sometime it shut-down by itself ...
actually , this problem will not resolve with any reset , factory reset , clean install , wipe cache ...
so we should wait and crossing or finger to receive our region's 4.4 .
I'm on Iran , as u may knows my country is on global sanction , so i bought my phone from Dubai and sumsung added my language to dubai version MJ7.
i should wait for 4.4 update for MJ7 modem . but i'm confusing , why all of 4.4 modems are NA6 till now ? what should i do if Dubai receive 4.4 NA6 update instead of different modem !!!
so :
-please share with me if u find any other solution . thank u
-a question , what was your previous baseband ? and what is your new one ?
-put your phone on airplan and restart your phone , do you still have the F*** error ?
I just recently bought this phone off someone dont know what they did with it. phone has good imei. But when i make a call the phone seem to freeze or when i get incoming calling the phone freeze. Also the wifi wont let me toggle on. Cant seem to figure out what the problem is. If someone got a solution please do share.
1. Take a look what android firmware is using (Settings - General - About phone)
2. Go to DOWNLOAD MODE (Power off ur phone + Volume down. Volume up then. - Take a look how is the KNOX)
3. Install Kies (if ur phone use android 4.2.2) or Kies 3 (android 4.3 or superior) and take a look if all is ok ( Important see what CSC u use). Only making a factory reset solve the problems sometimes(Settings > Accounts > Back Up and Reset > Factory Data Reset > Reset Device > Delete All/Erase Everything). If this dont solve ur problems, follow the next step
4. Your seller installed one custom rom maybe. If all is ok in the step 3, you can update ur phone by there officially. If no, you will have to use ODIN and flash new stock rom.
Joku1981 said:
1. Take a look what android firmware is using (Settings - General - About phone)
2. Go to DOWNLOAD MODE (Power off ur phone + Volume down. Volume up then. - Take a look how is the KNOX)
3. Install Kies (if ur phone use android 4.2.2) or Kies 3 (android 4.3 or superior) and take a look if all is ok ( Important see what CSC u use). Only making a factory reset solve the problems sometimes(Settings > Accounts > Back Up and Reset > Factory Data Reset > Reset Device > Delete All/Erase Everything). If this dont solve ur problems, follow the next step
4. Your seller installed one custom rom maybe. If all is ok in the step 3, you can update ur phone by there officially. If no, you will have to use ODIN and flash new stock rom.
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current binary: custom
system status:custom
Knox kernel lock 0x0
know warranty void 0x1
I tried kies 3 but doesn't recognize my phone in emergency firmware recovery. I tried flash stock rom but keep fialing!!!. I also found out the sound wasnt working either. I looked around in forum and there a post with the modem issue i tried to install that modem firmware but doesnt seem to work i think becuase i dont have cmw or twrp installed. but I cant get those on the phone without wifi.. so shine a light on me!!!! is there another way to factory reboot everything like all the hardware and software. or can u provide me detail instruction on how to use odin to reset to factory rom.
My friend going through the same thing but the calls goes thru you just can't hear what the other person is saying. Nor can the person hear me.
khd143 said:
current binary: custom
system status:custom
Knox kernel lock 0x0
know warranty void 0x1
I tried kies 3 but doesn't recognize my phone in emergency firmware recovery. I tried flash stock rom but keep fialing!!!. I also found out the sound wasnt working either. I looked around in forum and there a post with the modem issue i tried to install that modem firmware but doesnt seem to work i think becuase i dont have cmw or twrp installed. but I cant get those on the phone without wifi.. so shine a light on me!!!! is there another way to factory reboot everything like all the hardware and software. or can u provide me detail instruction on how to use odin to reset to factory rom.
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Same issue Here!
khd143 said:
I just recently bought this phone off someone dont know what they did with it. phone has good imei. But when i make a call the phone seem to freeze or when i get incoming calling the phone freeze. Also the wifi wont let me toggle on. Cant seem to figure out what the problem is. If someone got a solution please do share.
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Get the same problem here! I've been try many methods to fix it, not good news so far.
Since update to MK2 JellyBean4.3 via Kies! No sound at all, no wifi, freeze when make or receive calls (It's really annoying)
If you find something cool please let me know.... I'll keep trying here.
My device t-mobile SGH-M919 Stock MDL JellyBean4.2.2
Good Lucky
DAY 1: My phone bootloops when i flashed a modem. So I flashed a firmware base on my country (Philippines N9005XXUEND6). I used odin 3.09 for flashing, did check the FRESET TIME, AUTOREBOOT, AP BOX and BOOTLOADER UPDATE.. It was successful but on the homescreen, "setup wizard has stopped" flashes on screen so I factory reset via stock recovery, then it runs ok.. Set up is done,. But another problems are:
1. entering camera, it shows black screen then says "warning: camera failed".
2. entering the phone dialler it takes seconds to respond
3. music is freezes
4. unlocking the phone it takes seconds to open
5.wakelock takes seconds also to respond
6. no sound
N9005XXUEND6 is the firmware I flashed.
DAY 2: I flashed a different firmwares XXUEND5, XXUENB4, but i notice that i after flashing, no setup wizard in the homescreen. It is the same settings,wallpaper and i have the messages and conversations in my inbox. It looks like the firmware didnt update but i look up in the baseband and build version it does change.. A friend of mind says that after flashing a firmware setup wizard must pop on the screen but mine doesnt.HELP ME MASTERS.. Im losing hope..
I cant figure out the problem, my drivers is installed, i have the firmwares, odin 3.09, and all required tools for flashing
please help me masters.. I did trying reflash the firware and do the reset, the problem persist.. thanks in advance
I have a similar problem, but I think yours is much more simpler hopefully
You find the data unchanged because you didn't do a factory reset
To do so, turn off your phone then open recovery mode by pressing VOLUME+, HOME & POWER buttons together until it opens
Choose Wipe Data/ Factory Reset --> Yes
then reboot your phone
My phone turned out to have a RAM problem and still haven't fixed it, it will cost me a lot especially that I voided my warranty because I rooted the phone
The same problem exactly!!! And I do all reset severel times! Help us!!!
Garri1980 said:
The same problem exactly!!! And I do all reset severel times! Help us!!!
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If you could fix it don't forget to tell us about it
BTW I found a post online that says the problem could be due to separated camera from the motherboard
So if you don't have warranty as myself you should get it to maintenance service and tell them to check the camera
moustafaatchy said:
I have a similar problem, but I think yours is much more simpler hopefully
You find the data unchanged because you didn't do a factory reset
To do so, turn off your phone then open recovery mode by pressing VOLUME+, HOME & POWER buttons together until it opens
Choose Wipe Data/ Factory Reset --> Yes
then reboot your phone
My phone turned out to have a RAM problem and still haven't fixed it, it will cost me a lot especially that I voided my warranty because I rooted the phone
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-i did that also sir but the problem persist..
moustafaatchy said:
If you could fix it don't forget to tell us about it
BTW I found a post online that says the problem could be due to separated camera from the motherboard
So if you don't have warranty as myself you should get it to maintenance service and tell them to check the camera
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- Sir before i flash the modem, the phone works flawlessly but when it bootloops and i flash a stock firmware the other day the problem began to appear..
ian_drimworld73 said:
- Sir before i flash the modem, the phone works flawlessly but when it bootloops and i flash a stock firmware the other day the problem began to appear..
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What is your Knox Warranty Void status ?
if it's still 0x0, you should send it to Samsung service
moustafaatchy said:
What is your Knox Warranty Void status ?
if it's still 0x0, you should send it to Samsung service
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Then I guess your problem is like mine .. it could be hardware related :\
After I installed this ROM I found the camera working but not video camera and still can't play videos but there are no hangs
It still has problems but it sort of confirmed that I have a hardware problem
You need to be rooted
It's an AOSP ROM without Samsung Touchwiz ..
http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/...esurrection_Remix_KK_v5.0.9-20140416-hlte.zip
http://mirror41.downloadandroidrom....ock-4.4.2-20140207-signed.zip?token=866958839
Boot into Recovery .. Do a Factory Reset .. then flash the ROM then the gapps
moustafaatchy said:
Then I guess your problem is like mine .. it could be hardware related :\
After I installed this ROM I found the camera working but not video camera and still can't play videos but there are no hangs
It still has problems but it sort of confirmed that I have a hardware problem
You need to be rooted
It's an AOSP ROM without Samsung Touchwiz ..
http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/...esurrection_Remix_KK_v5.0.9-20140416-hlte.zip
http://mirror41.downloadandroidrom....ock-4.4.2-20140207-signed.zip?token=866958839
Boot into Recovery .. Do a Factory Reset .. then flash the ROM then the gapps
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-thanks for the info sir.. but i guess its not hardware because i handle the phone carefully and it does not drop on the floor. I will thanks
-go to recovery, wipe data
- go to download mode, reflash via odin
reboot
arinsms said:
-go to recovery, wipe data
- go to download mode, reflash via odin
reboot
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-I did that several times sir. still no luck
Hey, did you burn plywood the correct version of rum for your device? Moreover, you must make fool wipe, what version you had before making the root? That if there is a 4.3 to try to go back to 4.4.2
Sorry for bed English
Sent from my SM-N900 using XDA Free mobile app
ian_drimworld73 said:
-thanks for the info sir.. but i guess its not hardware because i handle the phone carefully and it does not drop on the floor. I will thanks
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You said you tried updating the firmware of your region and the problem persists .. You should let someone flash the software using a BOX (not just using odin) (preferably go to Samsung)
if it's not solved then it's most probably a hardware problem .. I didn't drop my phone either but that's not necessary
Same problems with my n9005
ian_drimworld73 said:
DAY 1: My phone bootloops when i flashed a modem. So I flashed a firmware base on my country (Philippines N9005XXUEND6). I used odin 3.09 for flashing, did check the FRESET TIME, AUTOREBOOT, AP BOX and BOOTLOADER UPDATE.. It was successful but on the homescreen, "setup wizard has stopped" flashes on screen so I factory reset via stock recovery, then it runs ok.. Set up is done,. But another problems are:
1. entering camera, it shows black screen then says "warning: camera failed".
2. entering the phone dialler it takes seconds to respond
3. music is freezes
4. unlocking the phone it takes seconds to open
5.wakelock takes seconds also to respond
6. no sound
N9005XXUEND6 is the firmware I flashed.
DAY 2: I flashed a different firmwares XXUEND5, XXUENB4, but i notice that i after flashing, no setup wizard in the homescreen. It is the same settings,wallpaper and i have the messages and conversations in my inbox. It looks like the firmware didnt update but i look up in the baseband and build version it does change.. A friend of mind says that after flashing a firmware setup wizard must pop on the screen but mine doesnt.HELP ME MASTERS.. Im losing hope..
I cant figure out the problem, my drivers is installed, i have the firmwares, odin 3.09, and all required tools for flashing
please help me masters.. I did trying reflash the firware and do the reset, the problem persist.. thanks in advance
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Hello guys what is described up is happening same to me ... tryied to update firmware from sammobile with a stock firmware Vodafone Romania and Odin show me some new lines when it updates like NON NHUL and a TGZ ZT etc ... suddenly failed to update .. and the phone freezed ... messagge was FAILED to update .. I did a restart and the two comps showed and the text : failed to upgrade firmware etc etc ... try use emergency firmware update trough kies ... restarted V Down +home +power : ) tryied to reinstal my fisrt NC2 Poland firmware succeded but
1. no sound
no camera
no music I guess That is a problem with the new Firmware ?Q? Probably we can ask MR. Chainfire or someone hwo knows ? I tryied all things ... but nothing happened even to restore data from kies /backup/trough Odin reflash old backup with TRP/CWM.
ANY ADVISE ? Never download even from sammobile or sammupdate if they say is ok if you never saw someone hwo succes
NEWS : I've noticed that suddenly when try to update again my Note3 shows only one language Chinese , probably becouse this new update NF at the end is for chinese exinos ????
1.Tryied to install CM last nightlies ...now the device work lmost 90%.
Bugs : No sound yet ...but i can acces settings sounds
E-mail has stoped
When i receive a call the phone shows answer/reject mode ..when i answer the phone become black screen amd keep vibrate.
Trying to call ...the phone call wizard has stoped wait/stop.
Things solved : Again can send and receive sms/mms
Camera works again and flashes
Sec android wizard works ...
Pit file euro open worked. I'm still having problems .
I checked. Again to see ...i tryied to install a singapore firmware nf6 I guess that was the problem.
solved mine
pisicutumic said:
Hello guys what is described up is happening same to me ... tryied to update firmware from sammobile with a stock firmware Vodafone Romania and Odin show me some new lines when it updates like NON NHUL and a TGZ ZT etc ... suddenly failed to update .. and the phone freezed ... messagge was FAILED to update .. I did a restart and the two comps showed and the text : failed to upgrade firmware etc etc ... try use emergency firmware update trough kies ... restarted V Down +home +power : ) tryied to reinstal my fisrt NC2 Poland firmware succeded but
1. no sound
no camera
no music I guess That is a problem with the new Firmware ?Q? Probably we can ask MR. Chainfire or someone hwo knows ? I tryied all things ... but nothing happened even to restore data from kies /backup/trough Odin reflash old backup with TRP/CWM.
ANY ADVISE ? Never download even from sammobile or sammupdate if they say is ok if you never saw someone hwo succes
NEWS : I've noticed that suddenly when try to update again my Note3 shows only one language Chinese , probably becouse this new update NF at the end is for chinese exinos ????
1.Tryied to install CM last nightlies ...now the device work lmost 90%.
Bugs : No sound yet ...but i can acces settings sounds
E-mail has stoped
When i receive a call the phone shows answer/reject mode ..when i answer the phone become black screen amd keep vibrate.
Trying to call ...the phone call wizard has stoped wait/stop.
Things solved : Again can send and receive sms/mms
Camera works again and flashes
Sec android wizard works ...
Pit file euro open worked. I'm still having problems .
I checked. Again to see ...i tryied to install a singapore firmware nf6 I guess that was the problem.
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-bro my note3 is back.. just flash the singapore latest firmware at flash it via odin your problem will be solved! Godbless
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ian_drimworld73 said:
-bro my note3 is back.. just flash the singapore latest firmware at flash it via odin your problem will be solved! Godbless
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I saw now the CSC is XSP this is the only prb but also is csc free no bloatware.also you can root back again and you can restore your old settings except :
1. CSC settings and APP settings that camed with your original firmware
2. when insert your sim back you will be notified to update internet settings to your provider ( for me Vodafone RO) , you can change them back to google.com . is ok THX for your apreciation.
Hi all,
First of all sorry my English not that good,
and please read it to the end
few days ago I tried to downgrade from Lollipop 5.1.1 to Kitkat 4.4.4 which i found later it is something can't be done,
but back then processor failed and i get some things on Odin , it stops on sboot.bin and fail and my phone in download mode says : sw rev check fail device 2 binary 1
so as an android user i looked all arount the web and Xda forums and found a way to flash Kitkat with a way to avoid
sw rev check fail device 2 binary 1
which was to delete sboot.bin and modem and compress them to .tar again , and guys that was the dumbest thing i did,
My note won't start and says : FIrmware upgrade encountered an issue. please select recovery mode in kies and try again
so as usual I looked again and someone somewhere said "why don't you try PIT file"
so i tried and that work for me and WoW my note work again , and from then i I stopped all the Experiments at the poor Note 4.
but yesterday some App on my note (which require Root and I can't tell you what it is) do some weird stuff and reboot.
the devise work but this message appeared (com.google.process.gapps - unfortunately google play store has stopped) constantly, constantly and constantly ,and that is painful , so I backed up my files and wiped every thing and restart the devise but still getting the same message , so I tried flashing lollipop again but still getting the same error on download mode
sw rev check fail device 2 binary 1
so i used PIT file again but nothing worked
so you know the deal , I looked around and again someone somewhere said use CWM to deal with sw rev check fail device 2 binary 1
So i did , and get into recovery and I use every wipe option i did found,
and restart my note , and THIS IS THE END MY NOTE STUCK IN GALAXY NOTE 4 LOGO NO MATTER WHAT I DID
right now i am downloading Ukranian lollipop firmware but I don't think this will make a difference
Any help guys any solution to fix my phone , please i can't afford to pay to fix it
thank you in advance
UPDATE : My friend told my to root it again maybe it will work , but i just got the old recovery but still STUCK IN GALAXY NOTE 4 LOGO
So my device now working i just download this frimware
HERE
Ukranian one , and work like magic , I hope this thread work for someone else ,
If flashing the latest stock Samsung firmware back onto your device doesn't fix your problem. I would recommend taking it into a Samsung Service Center to see if they can fix it for you. If it's software based they will usually fix it for you free of charge.
DarkGuyver said:
If flashing the latest stock Samsung firmware back onto your device doesn't fix your problem. I would recommend taking it into a Samsung Service Center to see if they can fix it for you. If it's software based they will usually fix it for you free of charge.
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Thank you for replay
So as I said I am downloading a newer one , and Hoping
And I can't take it to samsung because we don't have Service Center in Syria
GUYS THANK YOU FOR ALMOST NOTHING
no JK
So my device now working i just download this frimware
HERE
Ukranian one , and work like magic , I hope this thread work for someone else .
Glad that you managed to get your device fixed.
hi. i have a brand new phone s7 edge sm-935f to be more specific if this helps
got it in june. and now from a few days my phone started to freeze during gaming lets say that is a bigload or something and sometimes even when i wanna browse the gallery or even do simple stuff like calling someone..... i don`t know what happend...
this happend since i did the update on december? doesn`t matter the last big update.... i`m on forums 3 days now.... aand since this happend i knew that people are having problems like this... but still so i did the big damn update... and this happend
and now i`m trying to downgrade my phone... dld the firmware from sammobile? the site that everyone says... don`t know
i don`t know what to tell you more guys. i need some help i can`t do this on my one.
as i understand if i can enter in recoverymode blabla it`s not hard bricked? so that`s a very good thing so this means that this problem can be fixed.
i can load the phone by doing some forced resets.
i did hard factory reset.
i did try to flash stock firmware with odin... and kinda still nothing... after doing this i installed nfs no limits to test the phone and still the phone frooze and bam samsung logo we meet again.
i really don`t know what to do anymore.
does it has an importance if the phone came with " hungary firmware " and i dld the uk version ? maybe this could be the problem the language? don`t know
i need some help please i`m desperate.
thank you very much
p.s sorry for my bad english
edit1: didn`t root my phone didn`t try to install a custom thing on it, i started having this problems like 3-4-5 days ago after i did the last update in december can`t remember it.
edit2: dld the romanian (orange version ) gonna see if this works.... but after odin finished flashing the firmware i had to force restart the phone so it can boot... i quess this doesn`t work, i`m gonna dld the 2 versions of firmware of " hungary " and gonna try with those 2... will update when i`m done. in the meanwhile please tell me how i can fix this faster
edit3: i did manage to play a little bit of nfs no limits with this romanian (orange version ) but it frooze and restarted... i will try to install the hungary firmware and see then.
odin stock firmware, get TWRP, flash a custom rom, problem solved. If that dint solve it, you might have a hardware issued which means you are out of luck, need to send in the phone.
i really don`t want to loose my warranty by installing a costum rom on my phone....
as i know if i do that will **** up my waranty right?
any other suggestions?
You mentioned in initial post you would be trying certain stuff. What's the phone status now?
Try the APB1 of 2016.03.11 from SamMobile
phone status right now is still in the same status... tried to flash the 2 hungarian versions.. nothing.... even if it boots if i try to do something it goes in bootloop again... i`m trying to run an antutu benchmark....
some guy that works in a phone service place told me this: he things because of the update samsung rolled out the phone rams cpu is starting to break... because the update wasn`t tested enough,,,, don`t know what to say anymore. right now i don`t have time for the phone. i replaced it with other phone till next year then i`m gonna try to make it work again.
jonrayne i`m gonna try that firmware next yeah.
thanks
up. i think i have to change my phones motherboard.... because of the new update i think becuz of the bugs maybe it ****ed up my phones components i don`t know. if nothing works i will have to do this change. it will cost me 120-130$.... do you guys know any other option to try and fix my phone? i need to try everything before i will spend this money
Recruter said:
up. i think i have to change my phones motherboard.... because of the new update i think becuz of the bugs maybe it ****ed up my phones components i don`t know.
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Hah, sitting in exactly the same boat as you after the last FW update, my thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/s7e-suddenly-bootlooping-dying-t3528827
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any more suggestions?
or do i really have to go and change my mobo?
edit1: is there a way to test any part of the phone ? to see what part of the phone is fckd up? i tried to run an antutu benchamark when the phone worked a little bit but the phone went in bootloop at cpu test and ram test don`t know.
hey guys. i think i might have a fix for this sh1t
found on some forum i don`t know if it`s safe to post smt from another phone android related stuff if it`s safe i will paste here the post on that forum.
i found out that a guy with the same problems just like me and the same problems routine.... installed a nougat beta firmware and his phone worked after that. now i don`t have time to find and search a " valid " nougat beta firmware because i`m not home... can you guys please tell me if this is true or if somebody tried this option to fix this sh1t?
found out that many people have the same problem just like me after doing that update from samsung.
now my question is where can i find an " official " nougat update firmware to download. and try this because i don`t wanna go and pay 120$ to switch the mobo and then have the same problems.
saw a guy saying that there is one on sammobile but i don`t really have time right now to search for it. can smb tell where i can dowload one?
thanks
please smb reply
edit1: sorry for my bad english.
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tried to update the nougat beta fw but nothing... it gets stuck at " erasing blue screen " think after odin finishes to upload the fw to the phone....
after that i flashed stock fw again... still gets stuck on erasing blue screen... or i get the exclamation mark.... tried to whipe cache etc... nothing
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tried to update the nougat beta fw but nothing... it gets stuck at " erasing blue screen " think after odin finishes to upload the fw to the phone....
after that i flashed stock fw again... still gets stuck on erasing blue screen... or i get the exclamation mark.... tried to whipe cache etc... nothing
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Same problem here! What is your phone status now?
sound like a strategic move by samsung to force u replace motherboard again and again until u decided to give s8 a try. then u realise , **** it. get a cheaper phone with similar spec.