So im currently running android 4.4.2 and im really done with the ****ty carrier apps my phone came with, just wondering if flashing a PURE 4.4.2 unbranded stock firmware will void my warranty or trip knox to 0x1. Thanks.
Poroto said:
So im currently running android 4.4.2 and im really done with the ****ty carrier apps my phone came with, just wondering if flashing a PURE 4.4.2 unbranded stock firmware will void my warranty or trip knox to 0x1. Thanks.
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Flashing stock (e.g. from Sammobile) will never trip your Knox, although you cannot flash a 4.3. JB firmware as downgrading is not possible.
Chalao said:
Flashing stock (e.g. from Sammobile) will never trip your Knox, although you cannot flash a 4.3. JB firmware as downgrading is not possible.
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Oh thats good to hear, will it void my warranty ?
Poroto said:
Oh thats good to hear, will it void my warranty ?
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No, it will not!
Chalao said:
No, it will not!
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Oh thats good, i thought I heard somewher3 that using odin in any way would void my warranty. But hey, hope you're right, thanks!
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Hello,
i got my Note 3 yesterday, with provider branding, what happens if i flash another german firmware with Odin?
Will the Know warranty void?
Marcstefan said:
Hello,
i got my Note 3 yesterday, with provider branding, what happens if i flash another german firmware with Odin?
Will the Know warranty void?
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Any tampering using Odin will give you a 0x1 flag. Even when updating to the latest official KNOX-enabled firmware.
nicholaschum said:
Any tampering using Odin will give you a 0x1 flag. Even when updating to the latest official KNOX-enabled firmware.
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Thank you for your answer, but i tried it out, after i posted,
I flashed an offical firmware without branding and everything ist ok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBjBuSpllpU
nicholaschum said:
Any tampering using Odin will give you a 0x1 flag. Even when updating to the latest official KNOX-enabled firmware.
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That is not true, I have flash older and current versions to my AT&T Note 3, and it is still 0x0
designgears said:
That is not true, I have flash older and current versions to my AT&T Note 3, and it is still 0x0
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Yeah I just got back from the S4 forums....this is where I can source my info from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
Not sure how you did it, but the source up there is quite...under development, so maybe you guys should post there ^
Guys, I'm on stock 4.2.2 MGG firmware. That's how my devices came out of the box.
I rooted it just out of the box even before I put the screen protector, so now the knox flag is 0x1.
What will happen now? Will I be ever able to update to 4.3? or install ANY custom roms from the devs?
I rad the QA thread about knox, but its really unclear and there's some cross information.
The device is I9505
Thanks in advance.
bidav1 said:
Guys, I'm on stock 4.2.2 MGG firmware. That's how my devices came out of the box.
I rooted it just out of the box even before I put the screen protector, so now the knox flag is 0x1.
What will happen now? Will I be ever able to update to 4.3? or install ANY custom roms from the devs?
I rad the QA thread about knox, but its really unclear and there's some cross information.
The device is I9505
Thanks in advance.
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The flag won't stop you doing anything with your phone at all, the only difference is that Samsung may now not honour any warranty claims for your handset.
There's also the few issues with root access not working properly with KNOX installed, but that happens with or without the flag being tripped, it's just a feature of KNOW.
Dan1909 said:
The flag won't stop you doing anything with your phone at all, the only difference is that Samsung may now not honour any warranty claims for your handset.
There's also the few issues with root access not working properly with KNOX installed, but that happens with or without the flag being tripped, it's just a feature of KNOW.
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Dan,
From what I understand I won't be able to downgrade or upgrade to knox enabled firmwares at all since my device is now compromised.. 4.3 HAS knox in it. Am I wrong?
bidav1 said:
Dan,
From what I understand I won't be able to downgrade or upgrade to knox enabled firmwares at all since my device is now compromised.. 4.3 HAS knox in it. Am I wrong?
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Ah, yes I forgot about that. You won't be able to downgrade (at least not easily) to non-KNOW firmwares. However there's not really any reason to now that you've already tripped the flag, so you're not missing out on anything there.
I think that's all there is, although I could be wrong.
Dan1909 said:
Ah, yes I forgot about that. You won't be able to downgrade (at least not easily) to non-KNOW firmwares. However there's not really any reason to now that you've already tripped the flag, so you're not missing out on anything there.
I think that's all there is, although I could be wrong.
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Thing is that I'm on 4.2.2 now, and want to UPGRADE to 4.3. but 4.3 is a knox enabled firmware so it seems from what I understand is impossible?
I was also on 4.2.2 with knox status 0x1. I have flashed the leaked 4.3 firmware with knox without any problems so dont worry
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app
Upgrading to a higher fw will always work, even if knox is triggered. Only downgrade won't work or maybe will hardbrick your device.
Sent from my flying Galaxy S4 GT-I9505
Hi,
I have two questions - hope someone can assist:
1.Do you know a customized ROM with working KNOX?
2. If I will flash Samsung's original ROM, will I have a working KNOX? What about the flag?
Thanks.
wireless.tech.expert said:
Hi,
I have two questions - hope someone can assist:
1.Do you know a customized ROM with working KNOX?
2. If I will flash Samsung's original ROM, will I have a working KNOX? What about the flag?
Thanks.
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I believe you can still use knox even if the flag is 0x1. What just that means is that the container is not as secure and companies who allow BYOD will not certify it for use in their company. Most custom rom I've come across doesn't have knox.
Thanks.
So - flashing Samsung ROM with ODIN will flag 0x1?
wireless.tech.expert said:
Thanks.
So - flashing Samsung ROM with ODIN will flag 0x1?
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Not really unless knox is already 0x1.
The phone is unrooted.
Sorry for asking again - if I understood well, flashing my unrooted phone with Samsung ROM will leave the phone with warranty (cleared flag)?
Thanks again.
wireless.tech.expert said:
The phone is unrooted.
Sorry for asking again - if I understood well, flashing my unrooted phone with Samsung ROM will leave the phone with warranty (cleared flag)?
Thanks again.
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Doesn't your phone already have Samsung rom or you are trying to update to 4.4.2?
I updated to 4.4.2 (OTA) but have a lot of problems so I want to go back to 4,3.
wireless.tech.expert said:
I updated to 4.4.2 (OTA) but have a lot of problems so I want to go back to 4,3.
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I'm afraid it's not possible to downgrade to 4.3 once you upgrade to 4.4.2 ( for now ). Only the N900W8 can go back and forth between 4.3 and 4.4.2.
Ohhh. Very bad.
Any case - thank you for your assistance.
wireless.tech.expert said:
Ohhh. Very bad.
Any case - thank you for your assistance.
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You're welcome :good:
Hello guys, i have recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I switched from ios to android and i am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions: I want to root my device. Does this affect the binary counter? Also if i have a problem with my device and i have warranty, will i be able to format my device (un-root)? Also will this affect binary counter? I don't want to loose my 2 years warranty. Thanks!
PS: While i was on IOS i received a lot of support on reddit but when i asked for android stuff, i never got any response. Is this the right forum for a beginner like me?
Arjoni said:
Hello guys, i have recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I switched from ios to android and i am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions: I want to root my device. Does this affect the binary counter? Also if i have a problem with my device and i have warranty, will i be able to format my device (un-root)? Also will this affect binary counter? I don't want to loose my 2 years warranty. Thanks!
PS: While i was on IOS i received a lot of support on reddit but when i asked for android stuff, i never got any response. Is this the right forum for a beginner like me?
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1)Yes rooting will affect your binary counter.
2) Yes you can unroot your device to gain back warranty.
BUT the binary counter is HIDDEN!
So you can just reset the STATUS(which is official for stock n custom for unofficial)
There is an app called Triangle away which resets this counter but it only available for i9505 n not for i9500.
you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
AIkizov said:
you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
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Yes absolutely a problem. I forgot to mention it. If any unofficial stuff is flashed then this knox pox is triggered.
Mandark52 said:
1)Yes rooting will affect your binary counter.
2) Yes you can unroot your device to gain back warranty.
BUT the binary counter is HIDDEN!
So you can just reset the STATUS(which is official for stock n custom for unofficial)
There is an app called Triangle away which resets this counter but it only available for i9505 n not for i9500.
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AIkizov said:
you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
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So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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Where do you live? In the UK, for example, (and I believe the EU as a whole) then it doesn't matter if you trip Knox.
Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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First have a look on the stickies of Knox discussion. You wont get official software updates if you trip knox(as recovery is custom aftr rooting) n there are knox friendly rooting methods. But I dont really care about knox and after rooting it is upto you that you aint flashing anything wrong or not following the instructions. All the best.
Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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I personally am currently with stock firmware
Twice my phone was in service for Knox experiments that I did
Had twice to change the motherboard, but it was replaced under warranty because I have a version that my phone and just motherboard died and there is nothing to see in the Samsung service centre
Knox is a major obstacle
The choice is yours
andyjg247 said:
Where do you live? In the UK, for example, (and I believe the EU as a whole) then it doesn't matter if you trip Knox.
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Mandark52 said:
First have a look on the stickies of Knox discussion. You wont get official software updates if you trip knox(as recovery is custom aftr rooting) n there are knox friendly rooting methods. But I dont really care about knox and after rooting it is upto you that you aint flashing anything wrong or not following the instructions. All the best.
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AIkizov said:
I personally am currently with stock firmware
Twice my phone was in service for Knox experiments that I did
Had twice to change the motherboard, but it was replaced under warranty because I have a version that my phone and just motherboard died and there is nothing to see in the Samsung service centre
Knox is a major obstacle
The choice is yours
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i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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your warranty will void
AIkizov said:
your warranty will void
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so samsung doesn't allow you to format your device? well i think i am going back to ios... -_-
Arjoni said:
so samsung doesn't allow you to format your device? well i think i am going back to ios... -_-
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have the ability to format, but the stock rom allows do not have permission to freely manipulate software - Void your warranty
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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As I said previously that you should know what are you flashing and what will happen after it. If you flash anything by not following the correct procedure then you ll pay for it. I rooted my s4 3 months ago and immediately took a backup of my OS through a custom recovery. This backup helps me if something gets wrong. And I really dont care about about Knox because what you lose is only OTA updates and nothing else. So after rooting even you can backup your OS n stay on stock as long you want. Choice is yours. All the best.
Mandark52 said:
As I said previously that you should know what are you flashing and what will happen after it. If you flash anything by not following the correct procedure then you ll pay for it. I rooted my s4 3 months ago and immediately took a backup of my OS through a custom recovery. This backup helps me if something gets wrong. And I really dont care about about Knox because what you lose is only OTA updates and nothing else. So after rooting even you can backup your OS n stay on stock as long you want. Choice is yours. All the best.
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Triggered Knox not prevent for receive OTA updates
AIkizov said:
Triggered Knox not prevent for receive OTA updates
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As stock recovery of the phone changes there will be no OTA updates for that device it ll say THE DEVICE SETTINGS HAS BEEN CHANGED or something similar to it. And stock recovery is replaced by philz touch or cwm while rooting. And side by side this knox pox is also triggered.
Mandark52 said:
As stock recovery of the phone changes there will be no OTA updates for that device it ll say THE DEVICE SETTINGS HAS BEEN CHANGED or something similar to it. And stock recovery is replaced by philz touch or cwm while rooting. And side by side this knox pox is also triggered.
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now just talking about root that does not alter RecoverŅ
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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If your warranty will be void depends strongly on in which country you live. There is no yes or no answer.
Flash anything but an official Samsung package through Odin and it will trigger the Knox flag and change the device status to Custom. OTA updates will stop.
Re flashing an official Samsung package afterwards will change the device back to Official and OTA updates will resume. But the Knox flag will still show as triggered. Theres no way to reset it.
Sent from my SM-T310
My SM 910C is not compatible with the Belgian LTE network and i need to return to stock asap for warranty. Where do i find the original stock ROM and how do i loose root? Any help is welcome!
WDawn said:
My SM 910C is not compatible with the Belgian LTE network and i need to return to stock asap for warranty. Where do i find the original stock ROM and how do i loose root? Any help is welcome!
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Download original rom from sammobile and flash it with odin. Not sure if it resets knox though.
rraquib said:
Not sure if it resets knox though.
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It doesn't tripped knox remains tripped, that's final.
gabrymr said:
It doesn't tripped knox remains tripped, that's final.
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Ouch. Kinda nasty.
rraquib said:
Ouch. Kinda nasty.
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I've never understood what Knox is. Does the tripped Knox mean you can't get your full official warranty back? What problems does tripping Knox cause?
It means the system has been compromised so yeah I guess warranty void. Basically another Iphone in the making.
rraquib said:
Download original rom from sammobile and flash it with odin. Not sure if it resets knox though.
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Thanks, tripped knox indeed. Got replacement anyway. Very good service of Coolblue (the shop were i bought it)