I've seen a lot of complaints that the Note 8.0 is more a big Note II than a small Note 10.1
(mainly the fact that it has the capacitive buttons setup)
This works on the Note II, so hopefully someone can try this out on their Note 8.0
I'm waiting for mine to get shipped to me, but I'll update after I test it (unless someone gets to it first.)
To disable the capacitive buttons:
Root your Note. Get a file explorer that can use the root to edit system files. Go to system/usr/keylayout and open generic.kl with a text editor, find keys 158 and 139 and put a "#" sign in front of both. Save the file and reboot phone. Then go to settings and disable the light.
Then you can add software keys by editing your build.prop file.
Add the following line to the end with root explorer and reboot.
qemu.hw.mainkeys=0
or change the dpi, as discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2245
kisaten said:
I've seen a lot of complaints that the Note 8.0 is more a big Note II than a small Note 10.1
(mainly the fact that it has the capacitive buttons setup)
This works on the Note II, so hopefully someone can try this out on their Note 8.0
I'm waiting for mine to get shipped to me, but I'll update after I test it (unless someone gets to it first.)
To disable the capacitive buttons:
Root your Note. Get a file explorer that can use the root to edit system files. Go to system/usr/keylayout and open generic.kl with a text editor, find keys 158 and 139 and put a "#" sign in front of both. Save the file and reboot phone. Then go to settings and disable the light.
Then you can add software keys by editing your build.prop file.
Add the following line to the end with root explorer and reboot.
qemu.hw.mainkeys=0
or change the dpi, as discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2245
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well the first step only makes the haptic feedback stop. The keys still work. But the build.prop edit works for the onscreen keys
how about change the following line in build.prop?
ro.build.characteristics=tablet
mingkee said:
how about change the following line in build.prop?
ro.build.characteristics=tablet
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That line is already in there in the build.prop.
It's weird... this seems to work at first, as the menu capacitive key doesn't work on the home screen, but then works in apps - same scenario on the capacitive back key. And even more odd, on the newly "added" on-screen keys, the back key does nothing in any situation.
I honestly don't understand the desire for onscreen buttons as opposed to the capacitive/hardware buttons under the screen. I hated those software buttons on my Nexus 10 and removed the bar entirely to give myself the extra screen space (And gestures to make up for the lack of buttons). Just a waste of screen space in my opinion. I wish Android tablets had what the iPad uses (Four finger gestures for switching apps and returning home) rather than taking up the screen. (GMD Gesture works quite well, but not as iPad seamless yet).
To each their own though, just my opinion. The capacitive buttons are already there, why disable them and put the buttons on the screen.
NickTheMajin said:
I honestly don't understand the desire for onscreen buttons as opposed to the capacitive/hardware buttons under the screen. I hated those software buttons on my Nexus 10 and removed the bar entirely to give myself the extra screen space (And gestures to make up for the lack of buttons). Just a waste of screen space in my opinion. I wish Android tablets had what the iPad uses (Four finger gestures for switching apps and returning home) rather than taking up the screen. (GMD Gesture works quite well, but not as iPad seamless yet).
To each their own though, just my opinion. The capacitive buttons are already there, why disable them and put the buttons on the screen.
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I agree with you, but I think some people are having problems brushing up against the capacitive buttons while holding it in landscape, like while watching a movie for example.
jntdroid said:
I agree with you, but I think some people are having problems brushing up against the capacitive buttons while holding it in landscape, like while watching a movie for example.
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To each their own. It is certainly personal preference but I think anyone with that problem should look into GMD Gesture control rather than adding the navigation bar. You're just lowering the amount of screen realestate you have to work with. GMD Gesture Control works surprisingly well.
I changed (added a # in front of the entries) the melfas-touchkey.kl and sec_touchkey.kl files in system/usr/keylayout
(then turned off the lights and vibrate in settings)
But this was on my Note (N7000) and it seems to disable the buttons after a restart.
Anyone want to take a shot at that?
(Still waiting for my N5110 to get shipped here (a friend is sending one to me since I'm living in Japan atm)
I use Button Savior (so the bar auto hides) for now, but I'm looking for a solution that's similar to what I had on my TF101 Transformer:
I was running Revolver firmware on the TF101 and it let me hide the softkeys for home/back/menu. Then you'd longpress the power button to access the functions/bring them back.
GMD gesture control looks like it'd work really well if we can get the capacitive buttons to disable
GMD spen control might be good too for people (like me) who use the pen a lot.
It's still a great tablet either way!
I've not purchased my Note 8.0 yet, but this is a concern for me. Not sure what my ideal solition would be though. By reverting back to the onscreen buttons, your eating in to the screen real estate. I though about the option of making the buttons s pen enabled only, but that would be frustrating having to take the s pen out just to use them. The option to use the power button or on screen gesture to enable/ disable the buttons sounds like it might be the best possibility. How viable that is as an option, I'm not sure...
Y'know this wouldn't be a huge issue for me if Adobe allowed Photoshop Touch to be rotated 180 degrees. But here we are.
I was planning on using LMT pie controls to use the device but still want to disable the capacitive buttons. Also, while we're on the subject, does anyone else's home button get stuck?
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Div033 said:
Also, while we're on the subject, does anyone else's home button get stuck?
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No - if yours is, you should definitely return it or swap it out.
I'm not so much worried about turning off the capacitive keys until the nav bar is fully functioning.
Ok, aside from the "nav bar good/bad" debate, here's where we are with this...
The qemu.hw.mainkeys=0 edit in the buildprop does enable the nav bar like on the Note 2, but the buttons are a little funky. This is what you get:
Recents
short and long press you will get recents.
Home
short- Home
long- pulls up nav ring and recents almost simultaneously.
Back
short- back
long- multiwindow
There's also an ^ key on the right that does nothing. I'm gonna try to see what I can do to get these buttons working somewhat properly. Mainly replace recents with menu.
I've got some experience with it from my brief Note 2 days, which is probably a good forum to look through for mods like this. I'm thinking a lot of it applies being so similar.
Yes please! I just want some consistency with my note 8.0 and my nexus 4. When I go back to the nexus 4 I am looking for hardware buttons or pressing them harder. Heh.
Disabled capactive keys achieved
kisaten said:
I've seen a lot of complaints that the Note 8.0 is more a big Note II than a small Note 10.1
(mainly the fact that it has the capacitive buttons setup)
This works on the Note II, so hopefully someone can try this out on their Note 8.0
I'm waiting for mine to get shipped to me, but I'll update after I test it (unless someone gets to it first.)
To disable the capacitive buttons:
Root your Note. Get a file explorer that can use the root to edit system files. Go to system/usr/keylayout and open generic.kl with a text editor, find keys 158 and 139 and put a "#" sign in front of both. Save the file and reboot phone. Then go to settings and disable the light.
Then you can add software keys by editing your build.prop file.
Add the following line to the end with root explorer and reboot.
qemu.hw.mainkeys=0
or change the dpi, as discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2245
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I have achieved the ability to disable the capacitive keys with finger touch but keep the s-pen capable of using the capacitive keys. Here is how(Do this at your own peril, I take no responsibility):
Using root explorer or a root file editor navigate to /system/usr/keylayout
You will see many files but the two we are interested in is Generic.kl and sec_touchscreen.kl
First open Generic.kl and comment out lines 139 and 158. Do this by placing a # sign in front of the specified lines.
Save and Exit the file then open sec_touchscreen.kl
Comment out lines 139 and 158 by placing the # in front of the specified lines, Save and Exit.
Reboot tablet.
Capacitives are now disabled with finger touch, but still usable with the s-pen. You can also disable the capacitive light under your settings>display if you so choose.
I put a guide in the Note 8 Developer forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250941
Did this:
kisaten said:
Then you can add software keys by editing your build.prop file.
Add the following line to the end with root explorer and reboot.
qemu.hw.mainkeys=0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2245
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And this:
ual4720 said:
I have achieved the ability to disable the capacitive keys with finger touch but keep the s-pen capable of using the capacitive keys. Here is how(Do this at your own peril, I take no responsibility):
Using root explorer or a root file editor navigate to /system/usr/keylayout
You will see many files but the two we are interested in is Generic.kl and sec_touchscreen.kl
First open Generic.kl and comment out lines 139 and 158. Do this by placing a # sign in front of the specified lines.
Save and Exit the file then open sec_touchscreen.kl
Comment out lines 139 and 158 by placing the # in front of the specified lines, Save and Exit.
Reboot tablet.
Capacitives are now disabled with finger touch, but still usable with the s-pen. You can also disable the capacitive light under your settings>display if you so choose.
I put a guide in the Note 8 Developer forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250941
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Golden. :victory: Thanks both.
Edit: Back doesn't seem to work all the time, anyone else? Hit or miss... doesn't work, most of the time
slopokdave said:
Did this:
And this:
Golden. :victory: Thanks both.
Edit: Back doesn't seem to work all the time, anyone else?
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I haven't had any issues so far. hitting the back with the s-pen works every time; however,I have noticed that sometimes the s-pen won't recognize my stroke because the tip of the pen doesn't depress all the way! Mostly when I have to much of an angle on the pen.
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ual4720 said:
I haven't had any issues so far. hitting the back with the s-pen works every time; however,I have noticed that sometimes the s-pen won't recognize my stroke because the tip of the pen doesn't depress all the way! Mostly when I have to much of an angle on the pen.
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Yes, it works with my s-pen all the time too; both software and capactive keys. It's with my finger, on the on-screen software keys, that it doesn't work most of the time. Try it.
slopokdave said:
Yes, it works with my s-pen all the time too; both software and capactive keys. It's with my finger, on the on-screen software keys, that it doesn't work most of the time. Try it.
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I see what you mean! I'm trying to find the reason!
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ual4720 said:
I see what you mean! I'm trying to find the reason!
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Bingo. Strange eh. I'll keep looking too.
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With the previous Note devices, you could use the button on the S-Pen to toggle between inking and erasing in S-Note. That functionality seems gone now that the button toggles Air Command. But even when I turn off air command, I can't use that button as a toggle anymore. Is this feature gone for good? It was super convenient. ..
Good question. I've never used a Note, but it would seem to be the most useful way to write effectively with the pen. I would hope that Samsung didn't do away with such a feature just to pimp the new S-pen features.
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Hi
i used to capture screen shots in note 2 and note 3 using the s-pen button then touching the screen
But in note 4 i must click it to open air view then choose screen writing
So is there any way to add this option again without air view ?
Thanks
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When I pull out S pen screen write is an option or you can swipe your hand across the screen or press the button to Smart select
I mean to hold the pen button and touch the screen just like note 3
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I'd like to know the answer as well. Don't like having to choose from screen write or palm swipe.
hey,
I found this feature of taking notes on a black screen with the note 5 very attractive and someone wrote on gizmodo that it's already available for the note 4. can someone point me to it ?
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Hi
The feature we have in the Note 4 is when you pull out the SPen double tap the Display with it while holding the SPen button, it goes straight into Action Memo.
Make sure you have Enabled it in the Lock Screen Settings, tick: 'Action memo on lock screen'.