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[DISCUSS] Potential next phone? Sony's Xperia Play (PSPhone) is coming to Verizon.

http://www.wirefly.com/learn/resour.../sony-ericsson-xperia-play-vs-apple-iphone-4/
It looks like the playstation phone will be on big red. I was going to wait until year's end and pick up whatever dual core monster is out there that i really like, but with the exception of this phone only being single core, it does have a lot of what I wanted anyways and more.
1. two cameras
2. Android 2.3
3. Playstation controls
4. Newly announced Playstation Network store/studio or whatever the Android link up is called.
I think this will be a great phone.
Anyone know any history of the sony android phones? good/bad/unrootable/etc?
Definitely make the emulators far more controllable.

superchunkwii said:
Anyone know any history of the sony android phones? good/bad/unrootable/etc?
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As far as I'm aware, there is no history of this kind yet...but their others are rootable. I'm sure however, like the ps3, their psp android variant will be difficult to root...at first.

Xperia Play Confirmed for Verizon
Xperia Play just got released at Sony's Ericsson's MWC conference and it's confirmed for Verizon and start shipping in March! Unfortunately specs haven't be released yet and it's still made by Sony Ericsson, .
But i'm not going to lie, I'm kind of excited and want it to do well.
Xperia Play

Neat, thanks for the info.

Bummed...I guess I'll be switching to Verizon.
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"Sony held the Sony Ericsson's MWC 2011 press event today, where they finally revealed the long-rumored PlayStation-inspired phone. Labeled the Xperia Play, the device utilizes Google's Android Gingerbread platform, is "PlayStation certified," and is on the Verizon Network.
"This Spring, expect to see a lot of people with their heads down and thumbs up," said Sony Ericsson's marketing head for North America, Peter Farmer. "Xperia Play combined with the power of the Verizon Wireless network gives you everything you need in a smartphone and the one thing you want – the ultimate gaming experience."
Due out this March, the phone will launch with 50 downloadable titles, play PSN games, and eventually be able to host original PlayStation titles. Sony's Kazuo Hirai teases that the phone will come pre-installed with a "legendary PS One title." My money is on Final Fantasy VII. The Xperia play will also come with Asphalt Adrenaline 6, Bruce Lee, Star Battalion, The Sims 3, and Tetris already on it.
Other games will include EA's FIFA series and the Android version of Dead Space. The phone is capable of utilizing Epic's Unreal Engine. Sony is also partnering with Unity Technologies to bring their Unity Engine to the Xperia Play. Approximately 350,000 games exist that utilize this engine, and this tech would allow those titles to be ported to the device.
Other stats:
-60 frames-per-second via the Snapdragon 1Ghz processor
-Adreno 205 graphical processor
-4-inch multi-touch display
-Four-way d-pad
-Alphabetical keys
-Left and right shoulder buttons
-Dual analog touch pads to mimic analog sticks
-5.0 megapixel camera"
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Sony Ericsson's new Xperia Play smart phone may be supported by PlayStation games, but that doesn't mean that existing fans will have a leg up if they buy the phone.
GameSpot talked to Nathan Vautier, managing director of Sony Ericsson UK and Ireland, who admitted that any content previously purchased through the PSN store will have to be re-bought for the phone. "[Xperia Play owners] will have to re-purchase games, so it's not totally integrated."
One of the advantages of the Android-based phone is its ability to play PlayStation titles, and the phone will launch in March with 50 games available. Sony is already teasing that the device will come installed with a "legendary PSone title.
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SOURCE: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/02/13/sony-details-xperia-play.aspx
I Have the game informer mag. It says the PSone title will be Crash Bandicoot.

It might be coming to AT&T as well. I know Rogers is getting it up here in Canada, and we're DEFINITELY NOT CDMA. It would only make sense for AT&T to pick up the GSM version as well, but what do I know?

superchunkwii said:
anyone know any history of the sony android phones? good/bad/unrootable/etc?
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I have the X10, it was rooted.
Sony had a hard time with updates (untimely/didn't give us basic features/said features were impossible) but in all honesty they have done ok with updates...
We ended up getting 720p with the 2.1 update (long after 2.2 was out, we got an old OS Sony claimed was better than stock 2.2), we ended up getting glitched dualtouch after Sony told us it would never happen, and most recently they announced we will be getting 2.3.3 later in the year.
They say with the way Sony built their 2.3 ROMs they can provide more timely updates because they left it closer to stock Android.
Sony's support is really odd, they aren't truthful, they are behind the competition, but they do seem to work on the phones, they will probably update, I just don't know how timely it will be.
The Play looks promising, but the ROM will probably feel sluggish and don't count on Sony for anything wonderful, that will come from XDA Devs.
But I give Sony credit, they appear to be moving towards a more open concept with the new lines, they are unlocking the bootloader so updates will happen, from them or XDA, it will happen.

Latest rumor is that the Verizon version will be stock Android, and even the engadget preview of the Verizon version is stock android. The bigger question is whether the Verizon version will have a locked bootloader...

I am chomping at the bit for this phone!

yet we still have no info and date and price

xperiaplaycountdown.com

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Source

??? Tried the domain but got nothing

gwaine said:
??? Tried the domain but got nothing
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My bad, I didn't put the image properly

I'm utterly confused...
And it's been 3 not 6 months.

Thats cold yo...i love me play

What is this I don't even
adb shove iPad2post.apk to /forum/thread

I don't get the point of this?

Nhialor said:
I'm utterly confused...
And it's been 3 not 6 months.
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It was presented in January AFAIK.
I guess it is still too soon for you folks to get the joke. SEMC has ababndoned the phone already...

Logseman said:
It was presented in January AFAIK.
I guess it is still too soon for you folks to get the joke. SEMC has ababndoned the phone already...
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*gasps* say it ain't so!!
adb shove iPad2post.apk to /forum/thread

Aww Someone is jealous of Xperia Play ,and he is so pissed at us, calling us suckers

Actually, I made the image. I hardly can be accused of being jealous of XPlay owners, but I feel that the phone has been brutally abandoned. I guess my sentiment isn't shared among the userbase...

No, it's not, and you look the fool.

With Gingerbread as standard on the phone I'd say SEMC is good for a while, the majority of other phones that are out now, including some just hitting the market don't even have that.
We're still waiting for Sony to come through with Playstation Suite, I'm guessing that will be a vital part of the appeal to Playstation Certified devices. In the meantime, it's a prime opportunity for developers of Android games to step up with the new coined "Xperia Play Optimized" label.
I'm not sure what more you want SEMC to do?

come on guys its just a stupid joke
we all have to be able to laugh at things in life
if they dont want a xperia play then thats fine who cares
its all dual core this dual core that
but at the moment dualcore is only good for one thing benchmarks!
there hasnt been a game that is designed only for a dualcore phone that
are phones cant play aswell
and lets be honest that why we all got a play, to play games
so who really cares if there apps fire up hundreds of a sec faster than ours
or when u browse the homes screens etc, theres is abit smoother?
we got our phones to play games and play them comfortably
and our phones do that better than theres.
THE END

typikal82 said:
I'm not sure what more you want SEMC to do?
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Releasing a working PlayStation Suite on arrival, so that we can, you know, play games properly? Following a non-retarded bootloader policy? Updating our phones with interesting GAMING-RELATED content?

I agree with the Playstation Suite stance. They mention it every now and then but in no detail whatsoever.
But again, that's not SEMC, that's being developed by Sony (SCE). Different people.

A tweet attack, anyone?

typikal82 said:
I agree with the Playstation Suite stance. They mention it every now and then but in no detail whatsoever.
But again, that's not SEMC, that's being developed by Sony (SCE). Different people.
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We're end customers. We're not supposed to know or care about the internal splits of multidivisional companies. We want value for our money.

Logseman said:
We're end customers. We're not supposed to know or care about the internal splits of multidivisional companies. We want value for our money.
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Before you bought the phone you knew the PS suite wasnt going to be released until q3?
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Nhialor said:
Before you bought the phone you knew the PS suite wasnt going to be released until q3?
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No. I bought the phone for the emulators

With the pending release of ION, does that mean no more controller buttons? :-(

I love my Xperia Play because of the actual buttons. Touch screen controls are good, but nothing beats tactile feedback. For simple games, touch screen controls work just fine, but the Xperia Play wasn't a simply gaming phone device, it was able to play all my N64 games, and PSX.
With the release of the Ion Play, does that mean the end of our beloved buttons?

The Ion is the new American flagship for Sony Ericsson. It's not going to replace the Play, it's out because Sony didn't have any carrier-backed flagship in the US (the Arc wasn't available with carrier subsidies). It's not going to phase out the Play or anything.

jp700p said:
I love my Xperia Play because of the actual buttons. Touch screen controls are good, but nothing beats tactile feedback. For simple games, touch screen controls work just fine, but the Xperia Play wasn't a simply gaming phone device, it was able to play all my N64 games, and PSX.
With the release of the Ion Play, does that mean the end of our beloved buttons?
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It is not "Ion Play" its just simply "Ion" its not a 2nd Xperia Play or as such. All Sony devices will be Playstation Certified.

My understanding is that they support the use of Playstation 3 SIXAXIS/DualShock 3 controllers.

I find it very stupid that every new regular Sony phones are getting the "PS Certified" tag without the actual gamepad. Its a promotion skill but at least make some effort like in the original XPlay. For example I love the new Sony Xperia S but how is it a PS certified ?
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They want to create a gaming ecosystem for mobile gaming, which is not a bad idea. However, no one else is biting the hook, and it would be nice to have more choices for gaming than Sony's phones. Imagine some PS certified Galaxy S III or a Nexus Tablet made by Sony and PS certified. That'd certainly kickstart the ecosystem's popularity. It would damage Sony's hardware sales too, but since they're making a loss with them, it wouldn't be that big an issue.

bornotty said:
I find it very stupid that every new regular Sony phones are getting the "PS Certified" tag without the actual gamepad. Its a promotion skill but at least make some effort like in the original XPlay. For example I love the new Sony Xperia S but how is it a PS certified ?
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Read my post above. It makes perfect sense.

the first part of the video explains what i mean here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OxkVclkM8Y
i just don't like the idea of tagging a device "PS Certified" which has tiny little virtual buttons on screen to play with

bornotty said:
the first part of the video explains what i mean here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OxkVclkM8Y
i just don't like the idea of tagging a device "PS Certified" which has tiny little virtual buttons on screen to play with
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Its not all about playing on a tiny screen with tiny buttons all the time. Tablet S already has official sixaxis controller support for ps suite and we think sony mite roll this out over the hole ps certified device range like you see sony demoing with the ion here below, so there is a point to certified device's.
To see this concept in action check out this custom xperia arc we made with full ps suit early here http://www.xperiagamer.com/News/xperiagamers-plarc.html
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Xperia play 2 aka vita phone

This is another much better concept idea which I found on the web the only problem was that they said it would have the aspect ratio changed but it was said to feature a tegra 3 as well as mini analogs like the vita
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Heres the original post about it
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http://www.concept-phones.com/?s=psp+phone

Remember that this is a fan concept art, it's not an official work or design from Sony.

I couldn`t imagine this ever becoming a reality, the simple issue of how the phone would slide up and down with those analogue sticks sticking out is enough of a problem.

That is so not even close to what reality would be, if an Xperia Play 2 even ever happens.

I don't know why people keep insisting on posting these xperia play 2 forms on here. Every time ones posted it receives nothing but the same replies as the other xperia play 2 forms. STOP POSTING THESE!!!!! We know the rumors, were all big fans of Sony's gaming products! Unless some news pops up with ACTUAL photos of a prereleased model we don't care. I thought you guys would of learned from the release of this phone, I know I did. The rumors for this phone started about 2 years before the release. So by my count you still have a year and a half till this phone comes out and that's if it actually does. So for the sake of the form and to save your a#$ from being chewed out don't post unless its GOOD NEWS!

Actually I've seen the new XPlay2, and here is the evidence...
brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy

Growling Clover said:
Actually I've seen the new XPlay2, and here is the evidence...
brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy
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ROFL thats just made my day.
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Growling Clover said:
Actually I've seen the new XPlay2, and here is the evidence...
brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy
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Haha now this is news

Wow! It will be cool

Screen too big and the start/select/PS buttons are in a bloody stupid place.

The analogs would be simple just have a small indentation in the screen underside
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Better with a curved design instead of a boxy one
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hey guys
post #11 is really #1

Growling Clover said:
Actually I've seen the new XPlay2, and here is the evidence...
brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy
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Shut up and take my money!

Tegra 3 has nothing againts new A-15, S4's processors yo
(did i get it right?)

closing can be like in desire z. However xperia play is new phone (even no 1 year) so they wait with new one i think
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They should wait a year and a half and throw a 2.5ghz prosessor in that badboy haha
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If I recall properly, while the device sales weren't tremendous, this device managed to bring out a niche of gamers who actually buy games. It would make sense for them to hold off the release until they can't milk the Xperia Play's gaming side any longer, particularly if they're making money with Xperia Play Optimized licensed games as I suppose they are.

They sold a total of less than 1000 games the psx ones and the optimised did much better but still not great they need better and more games and pssuite as promised what we all want is console quality games on our plays like gta 3 they should really port the successful ps 1 and 2 games like god of war prince of persia silent hill etc they would make MUCH better sales and everyone would be happy
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Xperia Play (vs) One Touch Idol Ultra

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I'm doing this comparaison because I'm about to swap my Xperia Play with Alcatel One Touch Idol Ultra.
Any reasons to stick with Xperia Play ?

........It's not Alcatel
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If ya dont need physical buttons and need more powah - indeed better to swap.
I will keep my play, even with lack of power for games, cuz touchscreen is awful controller for games, and i like that many functions(mediaplayer, game console, phone) united in one small enough device.
If ya not fan of hardware control - ya can swap.

I'd stay with the Play until it dies if I'm honest, it's still a really solid phone.

D.Spirit said:
Any reasons to stick with Xperia Play ?
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Unless you are not playing PSXperia, EPSXE or FPSE games (for that xPlay will be good enough forever), be free to upgrade your phone to any newest that you can buy...
Comparing hardware of 2013 and 2011 is just... Not comparable... Ofcorse new hardware will better then the old one, the question is, is old hardware good enough for your taste?
I am also planning on buying new phone in next few months (maybe Xperia L or SP), but xPlay will remain my PSX game platform (And it was her main purpose in the last one and the half year). Untill it die...

Keep your play 4 ever
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"Any reasons to stick with Xperia Play ?"
You gotta be kidding me. Nothing, Absolutely nothing beats a controller when it comes to gaming. The mere sight of a smart phone that doesn't at least have a keyboard makes me throw up. I absolutely hate touch screen keyboards also, but that's something I realize I have to live with when it comes to modern day phones. My last phone was an N900 which had a keyboard, that was like 4 yrs ago. My current phone is now the xperia play and will be until i see another device with a controller or keyboard built in.
Just goes to show how much i hate touch screen only devices.

Thank you guys for replying and sharing me your opinions.
And to be honest, I lost my interest in gaming on mobiles since I bought an Xbox 360 ( 3 mounths ago ).
The only problem with this alcatel is it does not have a development forum here, so I think I will only miss custom ROMs, other than that I don't think I will regret my decision.

D.Spirit said:
Thank you guys for replying and sharing me your opinions.
And to be honest, I lost my interest in gaming on mobiles since I bought an Xbox 360 ( 3 mounths ago ).
The only problem with this alcatel is it does not have a development forum here, so I think I will only miss custom ROMs, other than that I don't think I will regret my decision.
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Sounds reasonable.
Im looking at the upgrading this way: what do I gain from 3 extra CPU cores ? Does it enable me many new possibilities ?
Does more GPU power/better graphics matter if I cant enjoy the game ?
IMO, Xplay has too small RAM and internal memory but I dont see any huge benefits in upgrading to new phone.
I bought a tablet that is decently powered but again, I dont see a huge added benefit of the power. Its mostly visible in web browsing.