[Q] Defy going mad - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I had bricked my defy MB525 and bought a new battery since the old one was inflated. After installing the battery I managed to flash the Eclair T-Mobile SBF but after that the bootloader read "Low Battery Cannot Program". When i plugged it into the charger I got a screen with a battery and a ? in it. When i connect it to my PC it charges, switches on and then dies after 10 mins. The cycle keeps repeating. The bootloader and stock recovery don't work. When i pushed battery calibrator it read 5% and 3119 mV just before it dies every time. At first it was at 3254 mV. My question is how to get the phone to charge to 100% so i can calibrate the battery since it keeps discharging after bootup.

nitin95 said:
I had bricked my defy MB525 and bought a new battery since the old one was inflated. After installing the battery I managed to flash the Eclair T-Mobile SBF but after that the bootloader read "Low Battery Cannot Program". When i plugged it into the charger I got a screen with a battery and a ? in it. When i connect it to my PC it charges, switches on and then dies after 10 mins. The cycle keeps repeating. The bootloader and stock recovery don't work. When i pushed battery calibrator it read 5% and 3119 mV just before it dies every time. At first it was at 3254 mV. My question is how to get the phone to charge to 100% so i can calibrate the battery since it keeps discharging after bootup.
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Is the battery an official motorola one ?

bilibili2011 said:
Is the battery an official motorola one ?
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Yeah it,s the BF5X 1500mAh battery..

nitin95 said:
Yeah it,s the BF5X 1500mAh battery..
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I think your new battery has a problem and can't charge (i'm not sure), you should ask for a new one where you have bought it .
Have a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaxBYF8vqig
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102113
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2202747

i thought new batteries, genuine or not, don't come fully charged? you were lucky to even able to flash the sbf with the little charges it had. a better idea would be to buy an external battery charger in my opinion.

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Battery not charging above 70%

Hi guys i was using S2U2 2.33 but one day my battery just drained to 0% in a second from 100%
Now its 2 days and still my battery does not charges above 70% and it discharges very fast i have uninstalled S2U2 but still the problem is there!!
I m using NFS FAN V 17 ROM could someone guide me? or do i have to buy a new battery
Will the re-installing of ROM to it will be fine!
patelaquib said:
Hi guys i was using S2U2 2.33 but one day my battery just drained to 0% in a second from 100%
Now its 2 days and still my battery does not charges above 70% and it discharges very fast i have uninstalled S2U2 but still the problem is there!!
I m using NFS FAN V 17 ROM could someone guide me? or do i have to buy a new battery
Will the re-installing of ROM to it will be fine!
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If your battery is bad and you try to re-flash, you will brick your device (since it will probably stop flashing about half way through - happened to me with my Wizard). Your best bet is to get a new battery... they are rather cheap either on eBay or Amazon...
From your message, everything points to a bad battery...
Good luck!
Thanks for replying
Hey
what do u think the probable problem due to which the battery got BAD?
i am using it from 1.5 years and this problem occured after that BATTERY DRAIN while i was using S2U2 2.33!
so what would be the problem as i mostly have to charge my battery from 60% twice a day so charging many times would be a problem
What do u suggest due to my big usage? Should i buy a extended BATTERY
But i want to tell u that i will take a extended battery if it fits only in the original case i dont want to buy a new case
So tell me the best option to get it also could u send me a link to buy it
it would be great thanks in advance!!!!
patelaquib said:
Hey
what do u think the probable problem due to which the battery got BAD?
i am using it from 1.5 years and this problem occured after that BATTERY DRAIN while i was using S2U2 2.33!
so what would be the problem as i mostly have to charge my battery from 60% twice a day so charging many times would be a problem
What do u suggest due to my big usage? Should i buy a extended BATTERY
But i want to tell u that i will take a extended battery if it fits only in the original case i dont want to buy a new case
So tell me the best option to get it also could u send me a link to buy it
it would be great thanks in advance!!!!
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It could be that the battery just died on the spot... I don't believe (or at least have never heard of such an issue, let alone related to S2U2. The fact that you've had this for 1.5 years suggests that you bought it used, which means that the battery might be much older than that.
An extended battery will not fit with the original back cover. I believe that there was one (1500 mAh, I think), that it is supposed to fit, but I am not sure.
Just buy a stock battery and you will be in good shape.
hey i took a new battery still the problem occurs
It twice charged till 100% now does not charge above 70%
Same problem here
I am using Blackstone with official ROM. Its a new one. Less than one week old. Its battery is not getting charge more than 55%. Why so? I kept it on charger for one FULL night. But still its not charging above 55%. Please give me a solution for that.
Plz help
I am using Blackstone with official ROM. Its a new one. Less than one week old. Its battery is not getting charge more than 55%. Why so? I kept it on charger for one FULL night. But still its not charging above 55%. Please give me a solution for that.
royi386 said:
I am using Blackstone with official ROM. Its a new one. Less than one week old. Its battery is not getting charge more than 55%. Why so? I kept it on charger for one FULL night. But still its not charging above 55%. Please give me a solution for that.
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Don't double post. Also, you are in the wrong section. This is for Vogue (HTC Touch and not Touch HD). You should head over to the Blackstone section and see if someone can help there.
patelaquib said:
hey i took a new battery still the problem occurs
It twice charged till 100% now does not charge above 70%
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It probably has nothing to do, but what is the output of the charger that you are using? Also, 70% is enough (specially if it is a new battery) to flash a rom. Flash the device to something else and see if that solves the problem.
hey thanks for replying
I got the charger which i go from TELUS & by the way i took the phone new from TELUS and its now 1.5 yrs i took a new battery as u said but still the problem occurs my new battery charged to 100% twice but now it does not chage above 70%
charger is having rating output- 5V - 1A
if u say to change the ROM then which u prefer
I AM USING NFS FAN V17
patelaquib said:
hey thanks for replying
I got the charger which i go from TELUS & by the way i took the phone new from TELUS and its now 1.5 yrs i took a new battery as u said but still the problem occurs my new battery charged to 100% twice but now it does not chage above 70%
charger is having rating output- 5V - 1A
if u say to change the ROM then which u prefer
I AM USING NFS FAN V17
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Anything really, even flash the same one you have if you want to. Just make sure that your battery is charged as much as possible. If I am correct (and I think I am), it is a problem with the battery meter in WM, and flashing will tell WM that whatever your battery level is at that point will represent 100%. Give it a go and remember to back up your stuff before doing this. Good luck!
did the same but i think the problem is wid charger
coz the battery charges with the USB connected with computer
but the orange light comes when connected with charger but battery does not charge
but if the problem is wid charger then i dont think that the battery should charge in mobile off condition???
patelaquib said:
did the same but i think the problem is wid charger
coz the battery charges with the USB connected with computer
but the orange light comes when connected with charger but battery does not charge
but if the problem is wid charger then i dont think that the battery should charge in mobile off condition???
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Try a different charger then. The battery will not charge if the device is off.

[BUG] Phone won't full charge battery (with At&t 4.1.83)

don't know if someone point out this already..
impressed by the short battery life of my Atrix, definitely lower than i expected, i make this try, and that's what i found out..
if you full charge the battery (phone shows "charged" or "100%" if you charge it when off) , then pull it out WITHOUT disconnect the usb charger, the phone reboots, then it shows a big picture of a battery with a question mark in it.. if you put in the battery again, the charge is stuck at 60%, and it takes about another hour to get the battery full..
so it seem that the phone think that battery is full, and stop charging it, when in fact it isn't..
if someone had a Motorola Milestone before, this was a known bug, due to the motorola kernel, who was solved only by some later Roms..
i haven't yet tested if using this, battery life is effectively longer, (just discovered), but with Milestone it was. a lot.
maybe our battery life can be better than it is now, if we can make phone recognize the full charge when it realy is..
P.S. i'm on stock At&T froyo.. if this was solved by latest kernel and Gingerbread i'm sorry for the useless post..
i can confirm my battery life improved after charging my phone in that way, like it was with Milestone and according to what i expected..
in fact, to charge a 1900 mA battery with a 850mA/h wall charger, it MUST takes, in a perfect world without energy dissipation, about 2h20' from discharged.. don't know about your, but my Atrix normally takes less, so it seem more than probably that it isn't really full charged
still waiting someone who test this on Gingerbread.. hope this issue's gone..
divicos said:
still waiting someone who test this on Gingerbread.. hope this issue's gone..
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Just tried it on GB 4.5.91, when I popped the battery back in it said it was at 5%. It's charging up now, I'll update when it's done charging up...
If you have CWM you can clear the battery stats, then use Battery Calibration to fully charge and calibrate. I usually leave the phone charging for about 15 minutes after I get the fully charged message, then calibrate.
CaelanT said:
If you have CWM you can clear the battery stats, then use Battery Calibration to fully charge and calibrate. I usually leave the phone charging for about 15 minutes after I get the fully charged message, then calibrate.
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So you reckon his battery isn't calibrated. If yours is, can you perhaps try what he suggests & report back? That'd be useful!
(I'm calibrating mine right now otherwise I would have tried..)
privatedoodle said:
Just tried it on GB 4.5.91, when I popped the battery back in it said it was at 5%. It's charging up now, I'll update when it's done charging up...
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Same here, how did you go?
Mine seems to be stuck on 5%
If I boot the phone, its 100% and 4200mV but as soon as I unplug it it goes to 99% and 41** mV
h0mbre_au said:
Same here, how did you go?
Mine seems to be stuck on 5%
If I boot the phone, its 100% and 4200mV but as soon as I unplug it it goes to 99% and 41** mV
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That's where I was for a long time (stuck at 5%), so I decided to calibrate the battery then give it another go. Right now the battery is draining, hopefully by tomorrow I'll have some results worth posting...
EDIT: After recalibrating, draining, and recharging, the battery still says 5% when you pull it and replace it. I'm charging up overnight, will update again tomorrow.
2ND EDIT: Charged for about an hour and a half, and it went up from 5% to 15%. After another 7 hours, it was still at 15%. Looks to me like a glitch in how the phone reads the battery, but don't know how much it's actually affecting battery life.
Today's my first day trying Green Power, so we'll see how that does.
so it seems Gingerbread acts in a different way..
maybe this bug was solved, with latest kernel, since if you're stuck on 5% and don't increase, phone is definitely NOT charging... it seems that it doesn't well recognize the amount of charge, but probably it is full..
i repeat, mine goes from 60% (when i pull and put the "charged" battery) to 100% in about an hour, bringing the total time of charging to 2h 15', that is how it needs to charge a 1900mA @850mA/h...
it's maybe simpler to check if it was solved or not.. if your phone takes about that time to full charge, we can assume that's act properly..
will try the calibration, thanks for the hint..

[Q] Charging battery for the first time

Hi, I got my Defy today. I put the mobile for charging 2 hours ago. I'd like to know for what period should I put it for charging as it is the first time for optimum performance of the battery..
I tried searching the forum for a similar question but didn't find any. Please delete this post if it is a an already answered question.
Doesn't matter. May be charge it for some 2 hours more. You can't overcharge the battery - it has protection. For optimum performance, just don't drain the battery to 0%, although it has protection for this too.
Ok, thanks, its already been 2 hours since the battery reached 100% mark. Will stop charging now.
venkatp said:
Hi, I got my Defy today. I put the mobile for charging 2 hours ago. I'd like to know for what period should I put it for charging as it is the first time for optimum performance of the battery..
I tried searching the forum for a similar question but didn't find any. Please delete this post if it is a an already answered question.
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Although it is generally said that a new battery should be charged for at least 8 hours before use, it may not be necessary. Just fully charge it. However, the capacity may be lower and unstable at first. If charged too quickly, just take it out and reinsert it, and connect the charger, again.
What I normally do is charge it till 100% and disconnect.
Then every month, I'll use up the battery till it shuts itself down, turn phone off, charge it till full.
Any other time, will plug into mobile charger whenever I'm in the office till it's 100% and use it thereon.
Both answeres after mine, are for the old nicd batteries. For liion batteries it is bad to overcharge and discharge to min. Anyway, as i said, there is soft and hard protection for this, so n.p.
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Under NO CIRCUMSTANCE!!! I MEAN NONE! that you allow ur batt to goto 0% or you will be effed royally by Defy. I and many others faced this. If your battery is like 15% you either charge it instantly by USB or if you have no means then just turn it off and charge in wall charger when you go home. Just don't ever let your defy goto 0% battery because if it does, you like me and many others will be stuck to M logo or white LED ****.
woundedtiger said:
Under NO CIRCUMSTANCE!!! I MEAN NONE! that you allow ur batt to goto 0% or you will be effed royally by Defy. I and many others faced this. If your battery is like 15% you either charge it instantly by USB or if you have no means then just turn it off and charge in wall charger when you go home. Just don't ever let your defy goto 0% battery because if it does, you like me and many others will be stuck to M logo or white LED ****.
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eh and what exactly happened? i was reading this post last night on my defy and it turned off because of 0% battery lol, and its all fine! :S
sUpErwHoO said:
eh and what exactly happened? i was reading this post last night on my defy and it turned off because of 0% battery lol, and its all fine! :S
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your lucky bro! don't do that, i was like you all naive and my defy was fine until one day, that happened to me. It didn't turn back on when i tried to recharge it only White LED or M logo.
I didn't even do any flashing or rooting of any kind on my defy then, heck i was on 2.1 eclair. So, be careful and heed my advice or one day you will regret it like I am now.
venkatp said:
Hi, I got my Defy today. I put the mobile for charging 2 hours ago. I'd like to know for what period should I put it for charging as it is the first time for optimum performance of the battery..
I tried searching the forum for a similar question but didn't find any. Please delete this post if it is a an already answered question.
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Use juice defender for added improvements from first day.. i get 2x boost , to save those extra bits when most nedded .. as for ur question , you need to calibrate your battery in order for it last longer
I advice u to charge 100% + 2hrs , and then discharge it to 10% or lower Without charging it in between !,

[Q] Battery Randomness?

Hey, this morning I was about to put my phone on charge from the wall outlet. It was at 13% and when I put it in it just jumped all the way to 100%. I unplugged and re-plugged and it said it was already charged. So I restarted my device and find my charge is at 1%, then I let it charge and came back to a 100% charge. My question is why did this happen? Is something wrong with my battery? Software glitch?
rom/kernel ?
Try charging it while powered off with another charger than stock
calanizzle said:
rom/kernel ?
Try charging it while powered off with another charger than stock
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Stock Rom r72 Franco Kernel(Well r71 at the time). Now it works since I charged it when it hit 1%. My question is did the battery just drain? Since it went from 13% to 100% in like 1 sec then fell to 1% upon restart. I just want to know if this was a random glitch or if I have a battery or hardware problem.
It's a known bug, this has been said by several developers
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It's a known bug, this has been said by several developers
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Alright thanks. Guess I shouldnt worry then.

Please Help moto x play huge battery issue

I used samsung fast charger for 4 months and battery life was all good , then i lost the charger so i had to charge the phone with a "not so fast charger" that took ages to charge my phone.
Never charged to 80% , and battery drain was serious.
That's when i got worried that the charger ive been using might have destroyed my battery.
So bought the "turbopower 15" charger for my MXP and at first it heated up my battery more then 60* (serious overheating issue)
After 2 or 3 charges i figured it only heats up after the percentage is 50% or higher or when i use it while charging.
And now it drain my battery like crazy!,
I just restarted my device into recovery right now and it was 45% but by the time i booted up to recovery it said 25%. How CRAZY DRAINAGE IS THAT??, Please devs help me.
Its like i dont need a stopwatch my battery drain a percent per second.
Im using purenexus 7.1.2 by @GtrCraft witb stock kernal
alihassan1397 said:
I used samsung fast charger for 4 months and battery life was all good , then i lost the charger so i had to charge the phone with a "not so fast charger" that took ages to charge my phone.
Never charged to 80% , and battery drain was serious.
That's when i got worried that the charger ive been using might have destroyed my battery.
So bought the "turbopower 15" charger for my MXP and at first it heated up my battery more then 60* (serious overheating issue)
After 2 or 3 charges i figured it only heats up after the percentage is 50% or higher or when i use it while charging.
And now it drain my battery like crazy!,
I just restarted my device into recovery right now and it was 45% but by the time i booted up to recovery it said 25%. How CRAZY DRAINAGE IS THAT??, Please devs help me.
Its like i dont need a stopwatch my battery drain a percent per second.
Im using purenexus 7.1.2 by @GtrCraft witb stock kernal
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try going back to stock rom, if the problem persists that means the battery is bad
pijes said:
try going back to stock rom, if the problem persists that means the battery is bad
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I was just using stock rom but the battery drain was still the same. I dunno if ive messed up the battery because of the "not orignal" chargers or whatever the reason is. I think the battery is now done for. I think Im just gonna sell this phone
Just buy a new battery from ebay, replace it urself. It's easy..
Ajeyvm said:
Just buy a new battery from ebay, replace it urself. It's easy..
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Thanks god. my battery is back to normal after charging it a couple times with the turbopower 15 charger. now when im home i never let it discharge past 70% this way it stays in good health.
when it went bad it discharged 10% in 20 minutes now its 10% in an hour
alihassan1397 said:
Thanks god. my battery is back to normal after charging it a couple times with the turbopower 15 charger. now when im home i never let it discharge past 70% this way it stays in good health.
when it went bad it discharged 10% in 20 minutes now its 10% in an hour
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I use tronsmart 3.0 turbo charger (backward capability for quick charge 2.0 devices). Battery life is good. I charge it when it hits 15-30%.

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