Hi, I got my Defy today. I put the mobile for charging 2 hours ago. I'd like to know for what period should I put it for charging as it is the first time for optimum performance of the battery..
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Doesn't matter. May be charge it for some 2 hours more. You can't overcharge the battery - it has protection. For optimum performance, just don't drain the battery to 0%, although it has protection for this too.
Ok, thanks, its already been 2 hours since the battery reached 100% mark. Will stop charging now.
venkatp said:
Hi, I got my Defy today. I put the mobile for charging 2 hours ago. I'd like to know for what period should I put it for charging as it is the first time for optimum performance of the battery..
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Although it is generally said that a new battery should be charged for at least 8 hours before use, it may not be necessary. Just fully charge it. However, the capacity may be lower and unstable at first. If charged too quickly, just take it out and reinsert it, and connect the charger, again.
What I normally do is charge it till 100% and disconnect.
Then every month, I'll use up the battery till it shuts itself down, turn phone off, charge it till full.
Any other time, will plug into mobile charger whenever I'm in the office till it's 100% and use it thereon.
Both answeres after mine, are for the old nicd batteries. For liion batteries it is bad to overcharge and discharge to min. Anyway, as i said, there is soft and hard protection for this, so n.p.
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Under NO CIRCUMSTANCE!!! I MEAN NONE! that you allow ur batt to goto 0% or you will be effed royally by Defy. I and many others faced this. If your battery is like 15% you either charge it instantly by USB or if you have no means then just turn it off and charge in wall charger when you go home. Just don't ever let your defy goto 0% battery because if it does, you like me and many others will be stuck to M logo or white LED ****.
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Under NO CIRCUMSTANCE!!! I MEAN NONE! that you allow ur batt to goto 0% or you will be effed royally by Defy. I and many others faced this. If your battery is like 15% you either charge it instantly by USB or if you have no means then just turn it off and charge in wall charger when you go home. Just don't ever let your defy goto 0% battery because if it does, you like me and many others will be stuck to M logo or white LED ****.
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eh and what exactly happened? i was reading this post last night on my defy and it turned off because of 0% battery lol, and its all fine! :S
sUpErwHoO said:
eh and what exactly happened? i was reading this post last night on my defy and it turned off because of 0% battery lol, and its all fine! :S
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your lucky bro! don't do that, i was like you all naive and my defy was fine until one day, that happened to me. It didn't turn back on when i tried to recharge it only White LED or M logo.
I didn't even do any flashing or rooting of any kind on my defy then, heck i was on 2.1 eclair. So, be careful and heed my advice or one day you will regret it like I am now.
venkatp said:
Hi, I got my Defy today. I put the mobile for charging 2 hours ago. I'd like to know for what period should I put it for charging as it is the first time for optimum performance of the battery..
I tried searching the forum for a similar question but didn't find any. Please delete this post if it is a an already answered question.
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Use juice defender for added improvements from first day.. i get 2x boost , to save those extra bits when most nedded .. as for ur question , you need to calibrate your battery in order for it last longer
I advice u to charge 100% + 2hrs , and then discharge it to 10% or lower Without charging it in between !,
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How many hours should last the first charge for best results?
Should exhaust the remaining battery (factory) and then charge?
Thanx in advance.
I think the genreal idea is to charge fully and discharge as much as possible before recharging and trying to establish this cycle for the first week or so.
I think as long as you don't keep topping it up at 50% power for the first week, you should be ok.
BANE
geo_25 said:
How many hours should last the first charge for best results?
Should exhaust the remaining battery (factory) and then charge?
Thanx in advance.
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If you would have taken the time to read the manual, you should know it takes about 3 hours to fully charge the Touch HD when you take it out of the box. I advise 1 time a week to fully discharge the Touch HD to about 5-10% and then charge it back to 100%. That's what I'm doing, and I can use my battery for over 3 days now.
Searching google i found this
http://www.megamobilecontent.com/tips/HTC-Touch HD/All-c0/Page-1/Long-Battery-life-427/
but it is not referred if i should exhaust the remaining battery.
i read in a magazine that in the first 3 charges you should let it drain fully.
and then it says almost the same as what it says in post above from geo_25
Is it OK to have the device switched on during that first charge?
Ta
What if i leave the device on MUSIC thru out the night and drain the battery over night and charge during the day and follows same pattern for three days.Will that be okay?
Alkali said:
What if i leave the device on MUSIC thru out the night and drain the battery over night and charge during the day and follows same pattern for three days.Will that be okay?
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Yes that is OK, so discharge it any how you can, music, gps, movies...
I remember Nokia used to tell it's service people that within the first month the phone is recommended to be discharged and fully charged 2-3 times, and then it's advisable to do the same once in every 3-4 months to refresh the battery cells.
Funny in most laptops you have a option of calibrating the battery.
Here is a TIP for you....
I've had the HD for a week now. I wanted to let my battery drain, but I often plugged the phone in to my PC and the battery kept charging up.
Soooo, I recommend you tap on the battery icon at the top, then again on the battery icon in the middle of that menu, and then place a check mark to DISABLE charging the battery when the USB is connected.
After you are done going through the fully-drain / fully-charge periods, you can take that check mark off if you want.
PS - Anyone know if the battery has memory? In other words, is it bad to charge it longer than the recommended 3 hours?
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How many hours should last the first charge for best results?
Should exhaust the remaining battery (factory) and then charge?
Thanx in advance.
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Lots of mis-information in this thread. I think lots of you are quoting old practices from when phones used Ni-Cd batteries. They developed memories. Li-Ion cells do not. (Which the HD has). You should do a full charge/discharge once in a long while to make sure the phone's voltage meter is calibrated correctly, but that has nothing to do with the battery cell itself. Here's some reading material: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery
This may help.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm
My X2's battery seems charging in eternity. Have it plugged almost half a day and still is charging. I'm always turning my X2 off when I'm going to charge it, so I can see the battery icon when it's full. But this one's crazy, when I turn on my phone and looked at how many percent that it has been charged...it says 100%. But then again when I turned it off (still plugged to a charger)...it's still is charging.
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My X2's battery seems charging in eternity. Have it plugged almost half a day and still is charging. I'm always turning my X2 off when I'm going to charge it, so I can see the battery icon when it's full. But this one's crazy, when I turn on my phone and looked at how many percent that it has been charged...it says 100%. But then again when I turned it off (still plugged to a charger)...it's still is charging.
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Same issue as mine. I wonder what's causing this?
dont worry
this is the problem that many of us are facing with.
no way to get rid of. phone jast charges till 100%, and illumination stops , but the status remains charging. but really its stopped. the charger and battery both get cool.
Had anyone of you did try to send it to SE service center to address this issue?
Many times when I charge the phone the % indicater will just stay at whatever it was when I plugged in the charger. If unplugg the charger for a few seconds and reconnect it again the % indicater will update.
It's just one of those bugs.....
l have contact SE about a month ago..still no reply
titus1 said:
My X2's battery seems charging in eternity. Have it plugged almost half a day and still is charging. I'm always turning my X2 off when I'm going to charge it, so I can see the battery icon when it's full. But this one's crazy, when I turn on my phone and looked at how many percent that it has been charged...it says 100%. But then again when I turned it off (still plugged to a charger)...it's still is charging.
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It's better to leave the phone on when charging, that way the OS itself can control power management.
Really though, don't worry about it... as it has been said... it's just one of those things
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It's better to leave the phone on when charging, that way the OS itself can control power management.
Really though, don't worry about it... as it has been said... it's just one of those things
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Thank you for that info. But, how long does your battery lasts? Mine wouldn't even last 24 hours.
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Thank you for that info. But, how long does your battery lasts? Mine wouldn't even last 24 hours.
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This is a question that is very difficult to answer as it depends on which applications you are running and how you use your phone.
Earlier this week I experienced that the battery dropped from 100% in the morning to less than 20% around 5 PM after having used the phone quite frequently throughout the day.
Yesterday I used the phone very little and from 100% battery yesterday morning I'm now down to 59% after 26 hours of use.
If you want your battery to last make sure you:
- turn off the screen when you do not use the phone
- turn off WiFi and Bluetooth
- don't use the radio
- turn of GPS
Maby someone else have more tips on how to get the battery to last.
here issue is not standby of battery-it is simple charging time and unacceptability of x2 to stop charging procedure. it just go on and on with charging(it does not display when it the battery is full it display that it is still charging-even if the phone is on charger more then 10h!!)
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Thank you for that info. But, how long does your battery lasts? Mine wouldn't even last 24 hours.
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Sometimes I can use it all day and still have somewhere around 40% to 60% left at the end of the day. If I don't use it that much, it will maybe drop 10% per day. I have gone 3 days once without needing to swap my battery.
I have a standalone charger and 3 batteries. So I swap out the batteries from there every time it is low. It could be possible that the standalone charger does a better job of charging to full capacity.
EDIT: I also leave my 3G on always!
My battery lasts 3 days,about 30min of talk every day,5-10sms,20-30min of wifi,3g is off,gps not using yet...so that is about that.
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My battery lasts 3 days,about 30min of talk every day,5-10sms,20-30min of wifi,3g is off,gps not using yet...so that is about that.
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3 days? And mine was just about....damn!
Has anyone experienced this issue, seems as tho when I charge my battery to 100% it takes less then 30m before it discharges to 92-92%.
This is happening with the original battery and the Seidio extended battery that I have.
Is there a fix for this, or is this something I should call VZW about. A lot of people at androidforums have been having the same issue.
http://androidforums.com/tips-trick...first-10-battery-drain-quicker-than-rest.html
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http://androidforums.com/tips-trick...first-10-battery-drain-quicker-than-rest.html
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Yeah, I've read this, is everyone having this issue, or just certain phones? The battery "trick" does not work for me.
i think everyone has the problem. the "trick" didnt work for me either or my friend, unless we're doing it wrong. i think its a software issue personally, and hopefully an update will fix it.
ufvj217 said:
i think everyone has the problem. the "trick" didnt work for me either or my friend, unless we're doing it wrong. i think its a software issue personally, and hopefully an update will fix it.
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Your battery stats are miscalculated. You need a calibration procedure. Replacing the phone might fix the problem, but if your battery charging habits don't change it'll happen again, unless HTC feels like changing their battery calibration algorithm, and there's no need to wait for that. Any laptap manufacturer will have a good how-to on li-ion battery calibration.
theres no way all the phones are bad, alot of people have this issue that have this phone. i dont think its bad hardware, chances are if i get a new battery its going to do the same thing. im gonna order an extended battery anyways soon so we will see.
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theres no way all the phones are bad, alot of people have this issue that have this phone. i dont think its bad hardware, chances are if i get a new battery its going to do the same thing. im gonna order an extended battery anyways soon so we will see.
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I am having the same issue with an extended battery. It's the way the phone is charging the battery. Is everyone just accepting this as is or is not everyone having the same issue. I want to know if I should replace the phone or not...
I completely discharged my battery last night, turned it off, and fully charged it while it was off. Now the first 10% seems a lot more resilient then before. I just hope I don't have to do this every night. I don't have a land line and it sucks having to turn it off just to charge it.
good to see this post, i to have a htc touch hd, and have problems with batteries, ive bought 2 new batteries from ebay.
and seem to get vary results, its as if mobile is showing 100% but the battery is only 40% charged.
charged one last night finished at 12pm and battery was saying it was flat at 7am !
the orginal htc does seem to last longer, but obvisily there is a issue with the phone itself, if it needs reset or something?
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I am having the same issue with an extended battery. It's the way the phone is charging the battery. Is everyone just accepting this as is or is not everyone having the same issue. I want to know if I should replace the phone or not...
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Replacing the phone is not necessary. It's actually the OS that cuts the charge short of full. The OS "thinks" the battery is full,thus stopping the charge. Completely drain the battery, then plug it in,leaving the phone on. Let it fully charge while it's on - when the LED indicator is green,and the battery is "full" - while still plugged in, power phone off,and you'll notice the indicator will turn red again,charging the phone for about another half hour or so. That will give you a true full charge.
Days later...and running Froyo, and still battery problems
I'm running Froyo now...battery light green and indicating 100%...and I power off the phone... It has been charging 25 minutes now and still charging. Didn't they(?) say that this had been fixed in the latest ROMs. I'm running Sky Raider's 2.01. Is it just me?
Do I need to erase my battery stats from within ClockworkMod Recovery? I haven't done this because it warns that this cannot be undone. That sounded too scary for me to try.
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I'm running Froyo now...battery light green and indicating 100%...and I power off the phone... It has been charging 25 minutes now and still charging. Didn't they(?) say that this had been fixed in the latest ROMs. I'm running Sky Raider's 2.01. Is it just me?
Do I need to erase my battery stats from within ClockworkMod Recovery? I haven't done this because it warns that this cannot be undone. That sounded too scary for me to try.
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Yes, clear battery stats. Ive had battery issues like this with any leaked froyo rom, including the one i developed.
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Yes, clear battery stats. Ive had battery issues like this with any leaked froyo rom, including the one i developed.
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Thanks! I will give it a try...
How do u clear your battery stats?
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Go into recovery and it is under advanced.
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its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.
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its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.
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Oh thanks. I was actually planning to get a new battery today.
Whick one do you suggest?
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mb02 said:
its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.
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I can tell you it doesn't have anything to do with the chargers. I have this problem while the phone is turned on whether I plug it into my Computer, original charger, off brand car charger, usb car charger, usb cable from the lg ally, or the OEM lg ally charger. it has everything to do with HTCs software on the phone. it is using two different ways to charge the battery, one while the phone is on and in use (that uses HTCs software/algorithm), and one while the phone is turned off(uses the batteries overcharge protection circuit).
jeeeeezz
I have tried everything, I tried resetting / removing the battery stats etc. Nothing works...Its useless ppl...have to wait for a fix from HTC. Which bring my question, does anyone know when or if this is planned to be fixed?
don't know if someone point out this already..
impressed by the short battery life of my Atrix, definitely lower than i expected, i make this try, and that's what i found out..
if you full charge the battery (phone shows "charged" or "100%" if you charge it when off) , then pull it out WITHOUT disconnect the usb charger, the phone reboots, then it shows a big picture of a battery with a question mark in it.. if you put in the battery again, the charge is stuck at 60%, and it takes about another hour to get the battery full..
so it seem that the phone think that battery is full, and stop charging it, when in fact it isn't..
if someone had a Motorola Milestone before, this was a known bug, due to the motorola kernel, who was solved only by some later Roms..
i haven't yet tested if using this, battery life is effectively longer, (just discovered), but with Milestone it was. a lot.
maybe our battery life can be better than it is now, if we can make phone recognize the full charge when it realy is..
P.S. i'm on stock At&T froyo.. if this was solved by latest kernel and Gingerbread i'm sorry for the useless post..
i can confirm my battery life improved after charging my phone in that way, like it was with Milestone and according to what i expected..
in fact, to charge a 1900 mA battery with a 850mA/h wall charger, it MUST takes, in a perfect world without energy dissipation, about 2h20' from discharged.. don't know about your, but my Atrix normally takes less, so it seem more than probably that it isn't really full charged
still waiting someone who test this on Gingerbread.. hope this issue's gone..
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still waiting someone who test this on Gingerbread.. hope this issue's gone..
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Just tried it on GB 4.5.91, when I popped the battery back in it said it was at 5%. It's charging up now, I'll update when it's done charging up...
If you have CWM you can clear the battery stats, then use Battery Calibration to fully charge and calibrate. I usually leave the phone charging for about 15 minutes after I get the fully charged message, then calibrate.
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If you have CWM you can clear the battery stats, then use Battery Calibration to fully charge and calibrate. I usually leave the phone charging for about 15 minutes after I get the fully charged message, then calibrate.
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So you reckon his battery isn't calibrated. If yours is, can you perhaps try what he suggests & report back? That'd be useful!
(I'm calibrating mine right now otherwise I would have tried..)
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Just tried it on GB 4.5.91, when I popped the battery back in it said it was at 5%. It's charging up now, I'll update when it's done charging up...
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Same here, how did you go?
Mine seems to be stuck on 5%
If I boot the phone, its 100% and 4200mV but as soon as I unplug it it goes to 99% and 41** mV
h0mbre_au said:
Same here, how did you go?
Mine seems to be stuck on 5%
If I boot the phone, its 100% and 4200mV but as soon as I unplug it it goes to 99% and 41** mV
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That's where I was for a long time (stuck at 5%), so I decided to calibrate the battery then give it another go. Right now the battery is draining, hopefully by tomorrow I'll have some results worth posting...
EDIT: After recalibrating, draining, and recharging, the battery still says 5% when you pull it and replace it. I'm charging up overnight, will update again tomorrow.
2ND EDIT: Charged for about an hour and a half, and it went up from 5% to 15%. After another 7 hours, it was still at 15%. Looks to me like a glitch in how the phone reads the battery, but don't know how much it's actually affecting battery life.
Today's my first day trying Green Power, so we'll see how that does.
so it seems Gingerbread acts in a different way..
maybe this bug was solved, with latest kernel, since if you're stuck on 5% and don't increase, phone is definitely NOT charging... it seems that it doesn't well recognize the amount of charge, but probably it is full..
i repeat, mine goes from 60% (when i pull and put the "charged" battery) to 100% in about an hour, bringing the total time of charging to 2h 15', that is how it needs to charge a 1900mA @850mA/h...
it's maybe simpler to check if it was solved or not.. if your phone takes about that time to full charge, we can assume that's act properly..
will try the calibration, thanks for the hint..
Hello guys,
After more than 1 year I thought about buying a new battery for better battery life. I just did it and here is the problem: the capacity which my phone shows is totally wrong. The battery percentage jumps from 70 to 85 and from 85 to 100% during charging in some minutes. And it drops from 100% after plugging it off the charger to 88 or 85%. It is really curious. So I thought maybe the new battery is damaged and I ordered a new one. But I have the same problem with this new one. OK, I thought maybe it is just a displaying a wrong value but this new battery is lasting less than my old battery. Is there a way to calibrate the new battery to get a real full charge and right values?
Thanks and regards
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blax123 said:
Hello guys,
After more than 1 year I thought about buying a new battery for better battery life. I just did it and here is the problem: the capacity which my phone shows is totally wrong. The battery percentage jumps from 70 to 85 and from 85 to 100% during charging in some minutes. And it drops from 100% after plugging it off the charger to 88 or 85%. It is really curious. So I thought maybe the new battery is damaged and I ordered a new one. But I have the same problem with this new one. OK, I thought maybe it is just a displaying a wrong value but this new battery is lasting less than my old battery. Is there a way to calibrate the new battery to get a real full charge and right values?
Thanks and regards
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Usually you want to condition a new battery by charging it all the way up to 100% and wait about an hour with it still on the charger. Then completely discharge the batter until the phone shuts off. Perform these steps two or three times and you should be good to go.
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Usually you want to condition a new battery by charging it all the way up to 100% and wait about an hour with it still on the charger. Then completely discharge the batter until the phone shuts off. Perform these steps two or three times and you should be good to go.
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NO. There is no need for this. Evidence and experiences from other N4 users has shown that discharging till it shuts off will cause a red light of death brick. I advise not to follow such a method.
scream4cheese said:
NO. There is no need for this. Evidence and experiences from other N4 users has shown that discharging till it shuts off will cause a red light of death brick. I advise not to follow such a method.
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This is also not entirely true.
I have let many times to discharge totally till turned off and only once I have experienced the red light, which disappeared after charging.
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NO. There is no need for this. Evidence and experiences from other N4 users has shown that discharging till it shuts off will cause a red light of death brick. I advise not to follow such a method.
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Are you kidding me! So you're telling everyone using a Nexus 4 that they should never take their phone off the charger for fear of getting the red light if their phone goes dead? My phone goes dead all the time and I don't have this issue. Sure the phone won't turn on right away after putting it on the charger from being totally dead, but after it gets some juice back in the battery it works fine again.