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[Q] Triangle away doesn't reset flash counter. Please help

I have galaxy s4 and wanted to reset flash counter with triangle away . After doing all the steps and I rebooted the phone the triangle away flash counter still show 9 . How come ? Why does it still show 9 and not 1 ?
Any help will be appreciated .

It will most likely be because you're not using stock recovery or kernel
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symondo12 said:
It will most likely be because you're not using stock recovery or kernel
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So it means if I go back to stock rom and kernel ,it will reset flash counter to zero and not if i am trying to reset on a already custom rom ?

ricky0001 said:
So it means if I go back to stock rom and kernel ,it will reset flash counter to zero and not if i am trying to reset on a already custom rom ?
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It won't work you must have stock kernel, stock recovery

You need to flash pre-rooted stock fw with odin, then use triangle away to reset counter. After that you can flash non rooted stock fw with odin to get your phone back to stock, if that is what you want.

vesu said:
You need to flash pre-rooted stock fw with odin, then use triangle away to reset counter. After that you can flash non rooted stock fw with odin to get your phone back to stock, if that is what you want.
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Sorry for noob question . But what is pre rooted stock ? Isnt it same as samsung stock firmware which I can flash to overwrite custom rom ?

ricky0001 said:
Sorry for noob question . But what is pre rooted stock ? Isnt it same as samsung stock firmware which I can flash to overwrite custom rom ?
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Yes, its stock samsung firmware but it is already rooted, so you can use triangle away.

vesu said:
Yes, its stock samsung firmware but it is already rooted, so you can use triangle away.
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So i need to be rooted to have triangle away working ? I have already downloaded stock firmware but where do I get pre rooted stock firmware ?

ricky0001 said:
So i need to be rooted to have triangle away working ? I have already downloaded stock firmware but where do I get pre rooted stock firmware ?
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Make sure that you absolutely know what you are doing, I dont want you to brick your deivce or trip knox flag.
If you are still with fw that has OLD bootloader without knox flag, then you can use this one: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23050663588004454
But if you already have bootloader with knox, then I am not one to help you. After reseting my counter and flashing stock fw, I ota updated my phone to newer fw that has knox bootloader and I've been with stock since then.
Oh and btw, you have i9505 right?

vesu said:
Make sure that you absolutely know what you are doing, I dont want you to brick your deivce or trip knox flag.
If you are still with fw that has OLD bootloader without knox flag, then you can use this one: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23050663588004454
But if you already have bootloader with knox, then I am not one to help you. After reseting my counter and flashing stock fw, I ota updated my phone to newer fw that has knox bootloader and I've been with stock since then.
Oh and btw, you have i9505 right?
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Yes I have I9505 model. I am on new bootloader as I updated my phone with MH8 firmware and got 0x1 knox warranty void. Doesnt really care about losing warranty because I have always handled my phone carefully.
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Which baseband do you have ?
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I have reset it now to 0.
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[Q] ODIN flashing older rom.

Hey guys so i have heard that if i install the old firmware for my s4 from sammobile using Odin one from early 2013 that it will give me access to service menu so that i can unlock my phone. So my question is that is it 100% safe to Odin flash the older 4.2.2 rom when i am on 4.3? Can i flash it unlock my phone then upgrade my phone to a custom rom again? Thank you
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Do not do this. This will brick your phone. If I am not mistaken, there is a method to unlock mk2 in the general section.
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zee24 said:
Hey guys so i have heard that if i install the old firmware for my s4 from sammobile using Odin one from early 2013 that it will give me access to service menu so that i can unlock my phone. So my question is that is it 100% safe to Odin flash the older 4.2.2 rom when i am on 4.3? Can i flash it unlock my phone then upgrade my phone to a custom rom again? Thank you
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You should ask this in the t mobile s4 forum. I believe your bootloader is unlocked and you can flash an older firmware version. But check there first. This is the att s4 forum. It can't be done on the at&t s4.

Is the service menu missing on the stock T-mo 4.3 ?

Nooo guys i have an unlocked bootloader i have the s4 that is very similar to the tmobile and it's the same as the Canadian versions. And yes the Canadian version which is 1337m and mine which is m919v don't have access to service menus but i have flashed a lot of custom roms simply by philz recovery so doesn't that mean i have an unlocked bootloader?

zee24 said:
Nooo guys i have an unlocked bootloader i have the s4 that is very similar to the tmobile and it's the same as the Canadian versions. And yes the Canadian version which is 1337m and mine which is m919v don't have access to service menus but i have flashed a lot of custom roms simply by philz recovery so doesn't that mean i have an unlocked bootloader?
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If you're on 4.3 I believe you also have Knox, in which case I don't think you'll be able to go back to 4.2.2. Read through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40903040

jd1639 said:
If you're on 4.3 I believe you also have Knox, in which case I don't think you'll be able to go back to 4.2.2. Read through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40903040
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I'm actually running a custom rom i shouldve mentioned im on phoenix rom. So i don't have knox at the moment. Does that matter?

zee24 said:
I'm actually running a custom rom i shouldve mentioned im on phoenix rom. So i don't have knox at the moment. Does that matter?
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Did you ever take the ota to 4.3? Do you know what firmware your device is on? A 4.3 custom Rom wouldn't have knox but if you took the official update to 4.3 you would have Knox.

jd1639 said:
Did you ever take the ota to 4.3? Do you know what firmware your device is on? A 4.3 custom Rom wouldn't have knox but if you took the official update to 4.3 you would have Knox.
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Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?

zee24 said:
Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
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Idk, I'm not that familiar with your device. From the little bit of reading I've done I would say no, you can't flash an older firmware. But again, I'd post this question in the t mobile forum. They'd be more familiar with your device.

zee24 said:
Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
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Did you ever update you device with kies or ever take an over the air update ? It's fine if you were on a stock based 4.3 rom as long as you never took an official update. If so then you can't go back. Just flashing a stock 4.3 rom won't change that status but the 4.3 bootloader would.
You would have know by checking in settings under SE

hednik said:
Did you ever update you device with kies or ever take an over the air update ? It's fine if you were on a stock based 4.3 rom as long as you never took an official update. If so then you can't go back. Just flashing a stock 4.3 rom won't change that status but the 4.3 bootloader would. You would have know by checking in settings under SE
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I remember i soft bricked my phone one time and had to flash my firmware but the 4.3 latest one from sammobile and after i did that i got knox but i believe i already tripped the knox counter because in download mode it says 0x1 so i guess i cant?

[Q] Does reinstalling stock firmware trip knox on Note 3?

I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?

What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:

Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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no it wont

markslo112 said:
What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:
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Tnx for the tip. Already tried that 2 times. No luck

Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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it won't trip Knox, i tried it several times as long as they are official roms

Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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long as they are official samsung roms you be ok....

I reinstalled my firmware and I can confirm that it indeed won't trip Knox.
As it might be useful I also want to share that updating using my Mac (with VMWare for Windows) gave me a lot of troubles. After using a native Windows laptop the update went fine.
Too bad it didn't solve my problem. Going back to the store to claim my warranty.

jaythenut said:
no it wont
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So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?

Medical HRH said:
So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?
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You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...

ultramag69 said:
You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...
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I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?

Medical HRH said:
I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?
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You have to be rooted to flash the custom roms provided here and that will mostly be thru recovery. It will surely trip knox. To flash stock roms from sammobile you don't need root. That can be done thru odin.
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I would suggest however, if you are network locked to unlock 1st... If you need to flash a separate modem afterwards this can trip Knox as you aren't really using a "Stock rom"...
Also make sure re-activation lock is OFF.... If you go to Kitkat and you don't have a KK rom yet you are stuck with a softbricked phone until you do get the KK rom... You can't go back to JB after flashing KK rom due to a new bootloader...

Stock NG1 rom/root confusion

hey everyone couple of questions
im currently on stock nb7 with lean kernel
im getting some issues so i want to go back to scratch. ive seen on sam updates this is the latest version for BTU N9005XXUGNG1. is this the latest one?
im wondering if BTU s the correct one for me? im currently using btu and have been since ive gotten this phone. (just something id like to confirm.)
also ive seen a few threads about issues rooting NG1? this is the thread im referring to,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/root-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150.
ive already tripped knox as soon as i got this phone so im not concerned with that.
the method i know for flashing stock is,
1.open odin 3
2.connect phone (just did that and odin sees 0:com5 (so thats good)
3. click on pda and load the tar/md5 file and click start
4. to root, load cf auto root file in pda mode and click send
5. flash twrp via mobile odin
any mistakes?
edit: also and rom recommendations, i currently looking at bobcat,echoe,x-note, x-note s5 port

thedan55 said:
hey everyone couple of questions
im currently on stock nb7 with lean kernel
im getting some issues so i want to go back to scratch. ive seen on sam updates this is the latest version for BTU N9005XXUGNG1. is this the latest one?
im wondering if BTU s the correct one for me? im currently using btu and have been since ive gotten this phone. (just something id like to confirm.)
also ive seen a few threads about issues rooting NG1? this is the thread im referring to,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/root-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150.
ive already tripped knox as soon as i got this phone so im not concerned with that.
the method i know for flashing stock is,
1.open odin 3
2.connect phone (just did that and odin sees 0:com5 (so thats good)
3. click on pda and load the tar/md5 file and click start
4. to root, load cf auto root file in pda mode and click send
5. flash twrp via mobile odin
any mistakes?
edit: also and rom recommendations, i currently looking at bobcat,echoe,x-note, x-note s5 port
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The method done in your link was to enable the use of towelroot which does not trip knox when rooting. But at the same time it does not work on new firmwares like the NG1. BTU is fine, but if you want to try other ones then there are some ROMS with multi-csc via aroma. I'm no longer into TW roms, but was on XNote v16 before, pretty good for me.
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jdgamble said:
The method done in your link was to enable the use of towelroot which does not trip knox when rooting. But at the same time it does not work on new firmwares like the NG1. BTU is fine, but if you want to try other ones then there are some ROMS with multi-csc via aroma. I'm no longer into TW roms, but was on XNote v16 before, pretty good for me.
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so to root NG1 i use odin 3 and cf auto root correct?? what rom are you currently using? whats the use of multi csc?

thedan55 said:
so to root NG1 i use odin 3 and cf auto root correct?? what rom are you currently using? whats the use of multi csc?
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Well since you've already tripped knox then yes, cf autoroot is a go. Wait, how did you triP knox and not be rooted? Do you have custom recovery? if yes, then some ROMS come pre-rooted and can be flashed through custom recovery. I'm on Temasek CM11, rock solid stable rom. About csc, i suggest staying with your current csc which is BTU.
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jdgamble said:
Well since you've already tripped knox then yes, cf autoroot is a go. Wait, how did you triP knox and not be rooted? Do you have custom recovery? if yes, then some ROMS come pre-rooted and can be flashed through custom recovery. I'm on Temasek CM11, rock solid stable rom. About csc, i suggest staying with your current csc which is BTU.
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No I am rooted and I have a custom recovery. You mean some stock roms come pre rooted? That would be helpful. Just flash through recovery. Doesn't flashing the official stock, update more, like the bootloader etc. Would flashing a stock rooted room be the same as flashing official

thedan55 said:
No I am rooted and I have a custom recovery. You mean some stock roms come pre rooted? That would be helpful. Just flash through recovery. Doesn't flashing the official stock, update more, like the bootloader etc. Would flashing a stock rooted room be the same as flashing official
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No, custom ROMS come pre-rooted. Flashing official from Samsung should always be done via odin. Now, flashing custom rom can be done through custom recovery or depends on the instruction of the developer.
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Yeah. Thought you were talking about official. Cool thanks for the help.

[Q] So I just bought my S4..

Hi everyone. I just bought my SGS4 today (i9505) and I want to know how to proceed before messing around. I searched a lot on the forums and on the internet but I can't figure out what to do.
I'm currently on 4.2.2 and I'd like to flash a custom rom without voiding the knox counter. How should I do?
Thanks in advance

kGospel said:
Hi everyone. I just bought my SGS4 today (i9505) and I want to know how to proceed before messing around. I searched a lot on the forums and on the internet but I can't figure out what to do.
I'm currently on 4.2.2 and I'd like to flash a custom rom without voiding the knox counter. How should I do?
Thanks in advance
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Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/guide-how-to-install-custom-roms-t2852310
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DarkerTimes said:
Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/guide-how-to-install-custom-roms-t2852310
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Ok so.. Before rooting with Towelroot, should I upgrade to the latest available firmware? Also, once I want to go back to stock, how should I do?

kGospel said:
Ok so.. Before rooting with Towelroot, should I upgrade to the latest available firmware? Also, once I want to go back to stock, how should I do?
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Sry I've read you are on Version 4.4.2. My mistake.
So you currently run Android 4.2.2. Do you have the Knox bootloader already? It is inverted to all firmware builds MGG or higher.
When you don't have the Knox bootloader you can flash everything you want to and you are still able to reset the counter with triangle away.
When you are on the new Knox bootloader i would recommend you to upgrade to the latest Android version and then use the link I posted.
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My build version ends with UDMGG so I believe I have knox. Before updating.. is it possible to revert to stock (for warranty pourposes) with the method you linked me?

kGospel said:
My build version ends with UDMGG so I believe I have knox. Before updating.. is it possible to revert to stock (for warranty pourposes) with the method you linked me?
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You can mess around by safely using custom roms without tripping knox to.
The i9505 supports that too.
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DeepankarS said:
You can mess around by safely using custom roms without tripping knox to.
The i9505 supports that too.
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What would I have to do in order to revert to stock? That's my question. Sorry if it wasn't clear before.

kGospel said:
What would I have to do in order to revert to stock? That's my question. Sorry if it wasn't clear before.
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Just flash stock rom via and youre done.
But remember once knox is tripped (0x1) you cannot make it okay.
That is why I said you can safely "mess around" with your i9505 by flashing custom roms without tripping knox.
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DeepankarS said:
Just flash stock rom via and youre done.
But remember once knox is tripped (0x1) you cannot make it okay.
That is why I said you can safely "mess around" with your i9505 by flashing custom roms without tripping knox.
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Thank you sir.. Just to clarify: I could use the same method to flash the stock image? If this is correct, could you provide a link to these stock images?
Sorry for being such hesitant, but I don't want to screw up with my warranty. At least, not yet.

kGospel said:
Thank you sir.. Just to clarify: I could use the same method to flash the stock image? If this is correct, could you provide a link to these stock images?
Sorry for being such hesitant, but I don't want to screw up with my warranty. At least, not yet.
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Stock Image as in?
Do you mean stock firmwares?
www.sammobile.com/firmwares
If you want to try custom roms without tripping knox..
Try this
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