Since Samsung Introduced 4.3 They said that they have put KnoX on it
So while reading the CF root thread i read that many users got bootloop
so I wanted to ask if flashing the Official software back to the mobile (In case of error)
Resets the Binary Counter or Status to official ? and How does the download mode look like
does it have the Knox Indecator like other Samsung Devices (I used to own an Galaxy Ace plus and now an Xperia ZR user)
I am just asking because I might do that to a friend and we don't want to loose the warranty
John98Zakaria said:
Since Samsung Introduced 4.3 They said that they have put KnoX on it
So while reading the CF root thread i read that many users got bootloop
so I wanted to ask if flashing the Official software back to the mobile (In case of error)
Resets the Binary Counter or Status to official ? and How does the download mode look like
does it have the Knox Indecator like other Samsung Devices (I used to own an Galaxy Ace plus and now an Xperia ZR user)
I am just asking because I might do that to a friend and we don't want to loose the warranty
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On the Grand 2, you won't hit Knox, because it isn't there.
But on a high-end like the Note 3 or the S4, using Odin to flash non-Sammy stuff would change
KNOX WARRANTY VOID=0
to 1. Sammy customer service employees would freak out then.
Thank You Very mUCh ;D
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Hello,
I recently picked up a Canadian Galaxy S4. This is my first android device after using an iPhone 4 for the last 3 years. I'm a tinkering kind of guy so when I heard about the whole custom ROM community for the s4, I was excited. I've been reading up on this for the last 3 weeks and I still have a couple questions that I haven't really seen a solid answer for specifically regarding the 1337m model.
1) If I root it would be nice to be able to reverse things should I need to send it in for warranty repair. I understand that triangle away isn't working on the latest MG1 firmware (which my device came with). I know that the ME7 update on the US version included a bootloader that no longer allowed downgrading firmware. Is this the case with the Canadian models as well? If it is possible to downgrade are there any special steps that need to be taken, or can I just flash a stock MDJ image via odin/heimdall
2) I have read the whole thread about the issues with the knox warranty void efuse. I checked the download mode on my phone and it does not have any of the knox info on it, so as I understand it, knox isn't enabled and therefore as long as I don't update to new stock firmware and I shouldn't trip the efuse. I have disabled auto-update in the settings. Is there anything else that I should do or be aware of to make sure that my phone doesn't update and force the knox stuff on my phone.
At the end of the day, if my warranty is permanently void, that's fine, but if there's a way that I can still keep the ability to restore my phone to 100% stock without tripping and binary counters or efuses I'd like to make sure that I know and understand how to do that before I start flashing custom roms rather than trying to figure it out in a panic if something goes wrong on my device.
Hi i have a question to ask . I bought my note 3 1,5 month ago and it is with a 2 year warranty . Is there any method to skip knox and not trip warranty i. i have seen root de la vega ( i think it is not yet available or it would be i am not sure ) , also i saw that triangle away is available but i dont know how this afects warranty . Also i know that 4.4 kitkat is not so stable and developers are waiting for a more stable update . I hope someone can guide me . TY
@panospao7 the short answer is: NO, you can't root kit kat without tripping knox!
Sent from Note 3 Superphone!
Unfortunately root de la vega does now not work anymore without tripping the e-fuse thus disabling your warranty. This is because Samsung have caught onto the fact peope were trying to bypass the Knox counter and so patched the bootloader. I must say this is the reason I left Apple all those years ago. When we pay for something we should have to right to modify it as we want. Seems Samsung are following apples ways. My suggestion would be to wait until your warranty has run out. Then root your device !!!!
panospao7 said:
Hi i have a question to ask . I bought my note 3 1,5 month ago and it is with a 2 year warranty . Is there any method to skip knox and not trip warranty i. i have seen root de la vega ( i think it is not yet available or it would be i am not sure ) , also i saw that triangle away is available but i dont know how this afects warranty . Also i know that 4.4 kitkat is not so stable and developers are waiting for a more stable update . I hope someone can guide me . TY
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If u r still on old 4.3 bootloader, yes rudlv will work. But if on newer 4.3 bootloader and up, rudlv won't qork without tripping knox.
And other method if rooting will trip knox for sure.
And even u successfully root ur current device without tripping knox, once u update to kk, u will have to reroot again, and this time... no mercy.
TA is not able to revert knox as well.
And this knox issue, in some countries, the service center still never consider the flag. U have to check it urself.
If u really need root access, then u may forget/ignore ur warranty.
As for me, I need it for work, therefore... hell with knox warranty.
Sent from N9005 4.4.2 NB7 rooted device
note 3
Thank all for the help . I will wait 1,5 year to go root or samsung to change its policy ( something that in at least 2-3 centuries might happen
After updating to 5.1.1 fw the device continues to restart and shut down.
Trying to get into the "download mode", the message that is knox 1
But I never rootato or modified the notes 4 that is under warranty
The assistance will be able to see that the device has not been tampered although knox showed 1?
There have already been cases like this ??
There have already been cases like this ??
I hope that my English with the translator of google is understandable .. I'm Italian and I do not know your language ... sorry
I also hope it is the right section for this type of application if necessary ... I apologize for the error due to what I have just written
Thank you
znhel said:
After updating to 5.1.1 fw the device continues to restart and shut down.
Trying to get into the "download mode", the message that is knox 1
But I never rootato or modified the notes 4 that is under warranty
The assistance will be able to see that the device has not been tampered although knox showed 1?
There have already been cases like this ??
There have already been cases like this ??
I hope that my English with the translator of google is understandable .. I'm Italian and I do not know your language ... sorry
I also hope it is the right section for this type of application if necessary ... I apologize for the error due to what I have just written
Thank you
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Even if you are not rooted flashing via odin trips the knox counter,
Btw wrong section.
Senthil360 said:
Even if you are not rooted flashing via odin trips the knox counter,
Btw wrong section.
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That's not true, the KNOX counter will only be tripped if a file that has been modified is flashed, if you flash stock firmware you wont trip the KNOX counter.
Battlehero said:
That's not true, the KNOX counter will only be tripped if a file that has been modified is flashed, if you flash stock firmware you wont trip the KNOX counter.
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Isn't the ones we flash from sammobile modified one? I thought only the stock that ships with the phone is unmodified, Correct me if I'm wrong
Senthil360 said:
Isn't the ones we flash from sammobile modified one? I thought only the stock that ships with the phone is unmodified, Correct me if I'm wrong
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Sammobile provides unmodified firmware files, on a rare occasion if you try to downgrade to an older firmware you can potentially trip KNOX.
I never used odin
I do not know if Knox is tripped after hard reset and restore or after upgrading to 5.1.1 lollipop made with kies 3.
Never any operation of this device modding
znhel said:
I never used odin
I do not know if Knox is tripped after hard reset and restore or after upgrading to 5.1.1 lollipop made with kies 3.
Never any operation of this device modding
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hi ,
Firstly ,
i have to say that Knox does not worry me at all ,tripped Knox ..long ago !!.
I thus have no real interest in its workings ,as i do not need Knox in my "life "or on my device !!
That said ,well my logic says (correct me plse if i am wrong )
i have seen processes " Security log event " etc ..( I have disabled this when i rooted ... as it was also giving me wakelocks etc ) Now surely won't any "incident/breach of security ? ..eg rooting ... " be recorded in log event .??
If so surely cause of " tripping" should be establish ?
Thus take it to Samsung centre and ask them to check reason why tripped ?
Above is just my opinion and theory ...or an option to consider ?
good luck
willcor said:
hi ,
Firstly ,
i have to say that Knox does not worry me at all ,tripped Knox ..long ago !!.
I thus have no real interest in its workings ,as i do not need Knox in my "life "or on my device !!
That said ,well my logic says (correct me plse if i am wrong )
i have seen processes " Security log event " etc ..( I have disabled this when i rooted ... as it was also giving me wakelocks etc ) Now surely won't any "incident/breach of security ? ..eg rooting ... " be recorded in log event .??
If so surely cause of " tripping" should be establish ?
Thus take it to Samsung centre and ask them to check reason why tripped ?
Above is just my opinion and theory ...or an option to consider ?
good luck
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Hello
Even for me knox +1 is not a big problem .. I can rootare the device and put a firmware that is maybe better than stock ..
But I'd like to understand how it happened! But above all I do not accept that I say that I did when the root is not true
I hope they can determine how it happened
Thank you
The device is returned from assistance for warranty service, but the same problems as before ... do you flash a custom rom could solve ??
thanks
If you downgraded your rom knox might get tripped
Maybe you bought used phone?
Sent from my SM-N920C using Tapatalk
@ johnmassay ---> Purchased new phone
The problems that I mentioned have remained even after the return from assistance samsung.
Also taken new battery but I have not solved the problems
Also now when the phone warms up for extended use itself off and I have to pull out and reinsert the battery to turn it back
At this point I would just like to understand if it is a hardware problem or sotware.
In case of software problems I could flash a custom rom and I would be all right even without the guarantee samsung.
If it is a hardware problem then the matter is serious + .... and I would not know how to solve .....
advice?
Thanks
znhel said:
@ johnmassay ---> Purchased new phone
The problems that I mentioned have remained even after the return from assistance samsung.
Also taken new battery but I have not solved the problems
Also now when the phone warms up for extended use itself off and I have to pull out and reinsert the battery to turn it back
At this point I would just like to understand if it is a hardware problem or sotware.
In case of software problems I could flash a custom rom and I would be all right even without the guarantee samsung.
If it is a hardware problem then the matter is serious + .... and I would not know how to solve .....
advice?
Thanks
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Most likely its hardware problem
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The center samsung think this is hardware problem ...
in which case we hope is still under warranty despite the Knox warranty Void 01
I bent as in previous posts
Thanks
I hope you sort it out and get a new device and when you do then disable knox. Knox and stock **** that ****. Custom roms is the way to go...
I am interested in custom rom, but if the problem is a hardware device on the solution "custom ROM" becomes not decisive
For now await responses from Samsung .. then I will decide accordingly ..
I'm angry because of this problem the Notes 4 is for me the ideal device, both for work and for fun and I am comfortable ... The Note 5 for example, I do not care because it does not have the MicroSD slot and battery less accurate
We hope you find a solution for my note 4 ..
Hi,
I would like to know if there is a knox resetting bootloader for Samsung Galaxy S5 Duos,
like for the Samsung Galaxy Note 3? I've read that there is a way to reset the knox from 0x1 to 0x0 for Samsung Galaxy Note 3 in this post :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52329946#post52329946 with a bootloader,so I was wondering If there is a knox resetting bootloader for the Galaxy S5 Duos (SM-
G900FD)?
And is this protocol for resetting the knox from this site : http://mobilexbi.blogspot.mk/2015/02/reset-knox-counter-any-samsung-device.html?m=1 true ???
Thanks in advance!
Best regards!
There are some devices running a combo of a specific SoC/older version of knox that *can* be reset.....Unfortunately this does NOT apply to ANY variant of the S5.
Having read through the guide on your final link, I can say with utter confidence that the method described is purely the method for flashing a stock firmware and has absolutely no effect on knox whatsoever......
If you trip knox on an S5, it's gonna stay tripped....forever....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
Dear keithross39,
firstly I would like to thank you for replying to my thread!
And I have one more question:Can Triangleaway somehow help me
p.s And I've read in some posts that some custom roms or recoveries can revert knox to 0x0.Is this true?
And I have an idea:Can the knox be installed and then reinstalled?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards!
Sorry fella....triangle away has nothing to do with knox.....All it does is remove the yellow triangle that appears after rooting and flashing custom software.....as I said in my previous reply, once knox has been tripped, it remains tripped no matter what you flash to the device. The knox counter (according to Chainfire) is hardware based in that it is an 'eFuse' buried somewhere inside one of the 'chips' on the device. When people talk about 'tripping' knox, they are essentially describing this eFuse being 'blown' which is why it can't be reset.
You could flash any/every conceivable combination of rom/kernel/bootloader/app etc continuously for the next 10 years, and it won't make a scrap of difference when it comes to trying to reset knox.......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
Dear keithross39,thank you for your help and kindness!
Best regards!
OK. I just bought this new thing and am looking for some feedback before I even think about installing custom recoveries, ROMs, APP's, etc.
On GSMArena.com my device is listed as the i9505. Everything matches up except the model version under "About device" where it states it as being the SPH-L720T (Baseband L720TVUJOH2).
Now what I want to know is, is that just carrier branding or is my phone indeed the i9505 and will all of the i9505 stuff work on it? It may seem like a silly question but I just paid $300 for this thing and the last thing I want to do is brick it.
The reason why I am asking all of this is because Samsung seem incapable of releasing a fully functioning or secure ROM (Stage-fright issues, widgets draw crashing on "Touchwiz" UI, etc). The current Android version I am running is "Lollipop" build 5.0.1 (official).
Which brings me to my next question: I noticed that my device has "KNOX" installed. Is there any way to install custom ROMs and/or recoveries without tripping it? I want to try to avoid voiding the warranty if possible.
Also this is an unlocked device so will flashing custom ROMs disable that?
Thanks.
I have an s4 with i9500 on it but i reality its an SPH-720T. You can know for sure in the bootloader
So far I had no problem installing i9505 ROMs like 'Super WizCyan, Albe95 S6, Imperium LL Rom' and i am corrently using Albe95 LolliROM 6.0 and it works fine :good: with the latest SPH-720T carnal (OH1) an the Imperium Karnal works too (v2.6)
It is rooted with CF-Auto-Root for SPH-720 and I have TWRP Recovery instaled
Grumpy Cat said:
OK. I just bought this new thing and am looking for some feedback before I even think about installing custom recoveries, ROMs, APP's, etc.
On GSMArena.com my device is listed as the i9505. Everything matches up except the model version under "About device" where it states it as being the SPH-L720T (Baseband L720TVUJOH2).
Now what I want to know is, is that just carrier branding or is my phone indeed the i9505 and will all of the i9505 stuff work on it? It may seem like a silly question but I just paid $300 for this thing and the last thing I want to do is brick it.
The reason why I am asking all of this is because Samsung seem incapable of releasing a fully functioning or secure ROM (Stage-fright issues, widgets draw crashing on "Touchwiz" UI, etc). The current Android version I am running is "Lollipop" build 5.0.1 (official).
Which brings me to my next question: I noticed that my device has "KNOX" installed. Is there any way to install custom ROMs and/or recoveries without tripping it? I want to try to avoid voiding the warranty if possible.
Also this is an unlocked device so will flashing custom ROMs disable that?
Thanks.
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Boot into download mode. What does it say your model is in download mode?
The SPH-L720T is just carrier branding. It should be an I9505.
Installing a custom recovery will trip knox. You will have to stay stock if you don't want to trip knox. But beware, knox doesn't like root. Meaning that you will have random reboots if you root your phone and knox is installed.
I recommend reading your warranty document to see what kind of damages it covers. I read mine and it concluded that my warranty covers excrements. So I tripped knox after the first month.
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Boot into download mode. What does it say your model is in download mode?
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It says SPH-L720T. But according to GDReaper (and the online specs) it is carrier branding.
GDReaper said:
The SPH-L720T is just carrier branding. It should be an I9505.
Installing a custom recovery will trip knox. You will have to stay stock if you don't want to trip knox. But beware, knox doesn't like root. Meaning that you will have random reboots if you root your phone and knox is installed.
I recommend reading your warranty document to see what kind of damages it covers. I read mine and it concluded that my warranty covers excrements. So I tripped knox after the first month.
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Crap, I might have already tripped it installing SuperSU (through Play Store, and that's all it took to root it). Under download mode it says "Knox warranty void 0x1". Does that mean I tripped it?
That said, no random reboots the only issue I have is that I can't access the widgets app draw on Touchwiz UI without an FC (but I use a Nova Launcher anyway), and i9505 stuff should work with mine, right? I am thinking about installing EchoeROM, provided it doesn't have the problems the "official" one does.
Knox default status is 0x0
Any modifications done to the bootloader will make it 0x1 which means knox has been triggered.
Since it is already tripped, you might as well flash a custom recovery.
The SPH-L720T has the same specs as the normal GT-I9505 S4. You can compare them yourself.
It is just a rebranded I9505.
I get that it is just a rebranded version of the GT-i9505 but I had to make absolutely sure. In other threads some are saying they have issues. And since I have "screwed the pooch" and tripped KNOX (unless Chainfire's "Triangle Away" can reset the counter), I might as well start flashing then.
I was just reading over this article on how to deal with KNOX and it doesn't seem to cause any issues for me since I am already rooted via Super SU. Will I have to remove it anyway or can I just go ahead and flash TWRP via Odin (can you recommend any version?) without any issues? And is CF-Auto-Root really necessary? I have some experience with all of this from rooting and flashing my old S3 MINI, KNOX and CF-Auto-Root are the only two I'm not sure about.
Oddly enough, while it does say that KNOX (and KNOX II) is installed I can't find the shortcut as described in the article. This is a refurbished phone so god knows what has been done to it.
Thanks.
CF-Auto-Root is only needed for rooting. Since you are already rooted, you don't need it.
As far as I know, Knox status 0x1 is permanent. It can't be changed back to 0x0. The flash counter is a different thing. It shows how many times a firmware has been flashed on the device. I'm not sure if stock roms cout towards your flash counter.
If you have no issues with Knox and root then there is no reason to remove knox.
You can simply flash twrp from their site. The variant you're looking for is for the Qualcomm S4. I used Odin 1.85 and 3.09 with success in the past.