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[Q] Return My S4 505 to stock

Hi
I need to return my S4 to Samsung for a warranty repair. I can't find my original nand back up. I need a link to uk stock roms please to flash in odin I do believe. And stock recovery. If this is done will it be back to stock and no counter?? I've not updated bootloader so no Knox counter.
Also will this make it Kies update able again???
Cheers People
Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Hi
I need to return my S4 to Samsung for a warranty repair. I can't find my original nand back up. I need a link to uk stock roms please to flash in odin I do believe. And stock recovery. If this is done will it be back to stock and no counter?? I've not updated bootloader so no Knox counter.
Also will this make it Kies update able again???
Cheers People
Robbo
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Hello mate, If you did not updated your phone on 4.3 samsung stock firmware then please feel free to download the 4.2.2 from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ and flash it via odin by selecting PDA . then send it back have a nice day.

Hi
Thanks for the reply but it just takes me to the home page of sammobile. And what do you mena by send it back?? Thanks??
Do these firmwares also flash stock recovery??
Cheers Robbo
Repulsa said:
Hello mate, If you did not updated your phone on 4.3 samsung stock firmware then please feel free to download the 4.2.2 from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ and flash it via odin by selecting PDA . then send it back have a nice day.
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Robbo106 said:
Hi
Thanks for the reply but it just takes me to the home page of sammobile. And what do you mena by send it back?? Thanks??
Do these firmwares also flash stock recovery??
Cheers Robbo
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Hello again , you need to sign up sir in order to check it out then click the Link that i gave you and download the stock rom that you need , once you flash this stock rom from samsung, you should good to go to send it for warranty/repair. more to say just like the first time you bought your phone. have a nice day.

Repulsa said:
Hello again , you need to sign up sir in order to check it out then click the Link that i gave you and download the stock rom that you need , once you flash this stock rom from samsung, you should good to go to send it for warranty/repair. more to say just like the first time you bought your phone. have a nice day.
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Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo
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Let me makes things clear for you mate , right now i have an old bootloader (No Knox warranty void, when i go to download mode) means i can flash any 4.2.2 firmware without having any knox void warranty. this is what i do i flash a pre-rooted rom then use a triangle away to reset the binary and use Phil recovery and flash any 4.3 custom rom i want! but if you need to send your phone to samsung because there's a hardware problem , feel free to flash a 4.2 from you country.(Since more likely after they fix your phone they will prolly update it to 4.3) remember flashing a 4.3 mk9 stock rom means a new bootloader/Knox void warranty 0x0 willl be activate.So if you flash root/custom rom that should void your warranty to 0x1 Please feel free to check more about Knox from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832

Robbo106 said:
Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo
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1- Ur phone is unbranded? MK9 use android 4.3. I will tell ya the correct firmware for u if u are lil confused
2- If u root it u will void ur warranty. Ur knox will be 0x1

Repulsa said:
Let me makes things clear for you mate , right now i have an old bootloader (No Knox warranty void, when i go to download mode) means i can flash any 4.2.2 firmware without having any knox void warranty. this is what i do i flash a pre-rooted rom then use a triangle away to reset the binary and use Phil recovery and flash any 4.3 custom rom i want! but if you need to send your phone to samsung because there's a hardware problem , feel free to flash a 4.2 from you country.(Since more likely after they fix your phone they will prolly update it to 4.3) remember flashing a 4.3 mk9 stock rom means a new bootloader/Knox void warranty 0x0 willl be activate.So if you flash root/custom rom that should void your warranty to 0x1 Please feel free to check more about Knox from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
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Yes I understood that. I'm in the same situation as you as in the way I flash ROMS. I didn't realise that the counter still worked even if it was an official update with bootloader, just thought if I flashed a custom rom with new bootloader it started the Knox warranty void.
Thanks for all your help. I'm gutted now though coz your right Samsung probably update my phone and then I'm b****ed anyway if I root again and custom rom it. Your link doen't take me to a 4.2.2. rom though so I'll keep looking.
Cheers Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Yes I understood that. I'm in the same situation as you as in the way I flash ROMS. I didn't realise that the counter still worked even if it was an official update with bootloader, just thought if I flashed a custom rom with new bootloader it started the Knox warranty void.
Thanks for all your help. I'm gutted now though coz your right Samsung probably update my phone and then I'm b****ed anyway if I root again and custom rom it. Your link doen't take me to a 4.2.2. rom though so I'll keep looking.
Cheers Robbo
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Im sorry about that here you go www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/ and incase your having trouble feel free to ask here and ill answer you whenever i can or you can ask @Joku1981 as well. have a nice day.

Joku1981 said:
1- Ur phone is unbranded? MK9 use android 4.3. I will tell ya the correct firmware for u if u are lil confused
2- If u root it u will void ur warranty. Ur know will be 0x1
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Yes I'm unbranded and on 3 network. Unlocked
Would rather have sammy 4.2.2 to return it on please. Not confused just don't know how to find older version. It just brings up latest.
Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Yes I'm unbranded and on 3 network. Unlocked
Would rather have sammy 4.2.2 to return it on please. Not confused just don't know how to find older version. It just brings up latest.
Robbo
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- UK Android 4.3 -> HERE
- UK Android 4.2.2 -> HERE

Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
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Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
Joku1981 said:
- UK Android 4.3 -> HERE
- UK Android 4.2.2 -> HERE
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Robbo106 said:
Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
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You need to flash a pre-rooted rom from djembey thread. Then you can use triangle away to reset the binary .and the flash a stock rom and sent it for repair. Please read the instruction on djembey thread so you wont void ur warranty.
2nd opinion . Flash a stock rom with odin by selecting PDA. And root your phone using saferoot (i dont know about this if it works) install triangle away . Reset binary . Reflash stock again then send.
Sent from Hell ?

Is the pre rooted stock rom so that triangle away will work??? I'm on a pre rooted custom rom but need a samsung kernal for triangle away to work properly. If a flash the stock rom I have on 4.2.2 will that aslo flash stock recovery???
Repulsa said:
You need to flash a pre-rooted rom from djembey thread. Then you can use triangle away to reset the binary .and the flash a stock rom and sent it for repair. Please read the instruction on djembey thread so you wont void ur warranty.
2nd opinion . Flash a stock rom with odin by selecting PDA. And root your phone using saferoot (i dont know about this if it works) install triangle away . Reset binary . Reflash stock again then send.
Sent from Hell ?
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Robbo106 said:
Is the pre rooted stock rom so that triangle away will work??? I'm on a pre rooted custom rom but need a samsung kernal for triangle away to work properly. If a flash the stock rom I have on 4.2.2 will that aslo flash stock recovery???
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Thats correct ,as long its a Stock and rooted then yes you can reset the binary.then flash the stock rom again and you should be fine . incase your phone are still in old bootloader (no knox, never flash 4.3 Samsung rom) then feel free to flash a 4.2.2 Pre-rooted BMGA-odex-FULL from djembey thread ,once your done, Download/Install triangle away and reset the binary, flash a Normal stock rom from samsung, Boot into download mode and you will see it says Official and your good to go Goodluck mate

You've been a great help thanks. Stock recovery is that also flashed when I flash the stock rom last through odin???
So I'm gonna flash a stock rom pre rooted 4.2.2 with CWM then use triangle away then flash stock samsung through odin.
Repulsa said:
Thats correct ,as long its a Stock and rooted then yes you can reset the binary.then flash the stock rom again and you should be fine . incase your phone are still in old bootloader (no knox, never flash 4.3 Samsung rom) then feel free to flash a 4.2.2 Pre-rooted BMGA-odex-FULL from djembey thread ,once your done, Download/Install triangle away and reset the binary, flash a Normal stock rom from samsung, Boot into download mode and you will see it says Official and your good to go Goodluck mate
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[Q] Updating stock 4.2.2 - options?

Hi all!
I have a stock Samsung GT-I9505 with 4.2.2
Version Info
AP: I9505XXUAMDM
CP: I9505XXUAMDM
CSC: I9505OXXAMDB
I'd like to update to a stock or stockish rom, without Knox bootloader, updating the modem and then rooting.
I've done a lot of reading on the topic but I'm getting somwhat confused as there are so many different methods depending on the version, and if you have Knox. There are also Modem/Wi-Fi issues etc.
Any tips on the method or can someone advise which stock rom/modem to go for?
I'm trying to set out and build up a step by step method that will avoid any complications.

cps_goodbuy said:
Hi all!
I have a stock Samsung GT-I9505 with 4.2.2
Version Info
AP: I9505XXUAMDM
CP: I9505XXUAMDM
CSC: I9505OXXAMDB
I'd like to update to a stock or stockish rom, without Knox bootloader, updating the modem and then rooting.
I've done a lot of reading on the topic but I'm getting somwhat confused as there are so many different methods depending on the version, and if you have Knox. There are also Modem/Wi-Fi issues etc.
Any tips on the method or can someone advise which stock rom/modem to go for?
I'm trying to set out and build up a step by step method that will avoid any complications.
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Flash Pre-rootedXXUBMGA through Odin and then Install triangle away and reset the binary , and then flash any Custom Recovery via odin and download a Custom 4.3 rom you want then go to recovery do a full wipe and flash the custom rom you downloaded.. Have a nice day.

Repulsa said:
Flash Pre-rootedXXUBMGA through Odin and then Install triangle away and reset the binary , and then flash any Custom Recovery via odin and download a Custom 4.3 rom you want and flash it via recovery. Have a nice day.
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Thanks for the info! Still reading all I can to avoid mistakes.
After installing a Custom recovery, I take it I don't need to reset the binary anymore? Will search about whether I can flash back the standard recovery.
Would it not be better to install a Pre-rooted and knox-free stock 4.3 rom? Are there any holes to avoid?

cps_goodbuy said:
Thanks for the info! Still reading all I can to avoid mistakes.
After installing a Custom recovery, I take it I don't need to reset the binary anymore? Will search about whether I can flash back the standard recovery.
Would it not be better to install a Pre-rooted and knox-free stock 4.3 rom? Are there any holes to avoid?
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Well that's how i do it since im still on old bootloader and and doesnt have knox warranty void (I do it from the scratch because i want a fresh install hehe) , anyways you need to root your phone and install a custom recovery and download a 4.3 custom rom and flash it via recovery , once done flashing you need to flash a 4.3 modem in order to prevent a dropping signal issue. Have a nice day.

Repulsa said:
Well that's how i do it since im still on old bootloader and and doesnt have knox warranty void (I do it from the scratch because i want a fresh install hehe) , anyways you need to root your phone and install a custom recovery and download a 4.3 custom rom and flash it via recovery , once done flashing you need to flash a 4.3 modem in order to prevent a dropping signal issue. Have a nice day.
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Is it possible to flash a stock 4.3 rom (without the bootloader) so I don't have to do a data wipe?

yuuuuuuuu said:
Is it possible to flash a stock 4.3 rom (without the bootloader) so I don't have to do a data wipe?
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You can flash a custom 4.3 rom but not a stock 4.3 rom since that will give u a newbootloader mate. Im giving you all the tips i can . But feel free either search the forum or wait for some1's opinion. Have a nice day.
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[Q] where to start? clockword recovery mod etc

Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick

seventje84 said:
Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick
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OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.

radicalisto said:
OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.
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First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?

seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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1- Yup, once you get the new bootloader you can't downgrade, you can however flash ROMS which are created with this new bootloader, so far SweetROM, AndroidNow NG and(soon to be coming) AllianceROM are NA6 compatible.
2-CM was built on the old BL source, it'll probably eventually get updated to NA6 BL at some point, but for now it's based on MJ7 BL.
3/4- Yup if you are EU like myself, then KNOX warranty means nothing to us, I was just confirming you were aware of this
-- CWM has to be installed via ODIN, takes 20seconds to flash via PDA option in ODIN 1.85. CWM will be your main base recovery and you can install/wipe/mount etc as and when you need to.
*Side note, my advice, stick with your current bootloader and avoid the new kitkat bootloader, install CWM and flash in temasek's CM build and custom kernel. It's a fantastic build! just need to install the gAPPS to get Playstore and google apps etc - also Official Nightlies have been announced and are live by CM**
Any other queries just post away :good:

seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app

Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's

radicalisto said:
Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's
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I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
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Koumorisword said:
I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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Nope, that wipe should be enough. Probably a buggy ROM. Try another and see if you have any issues.

Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe.
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You want to look for EU Directive 1999/44/CE
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu

[Q] How can I delete all traces of custom ROM installations?

I need to service my device due to GPS problems.
Warranty would be most probably void if they find any traces of custom ROM installations.
I've install stock original stock ROM using ODIN.
As far as I know No Knox was ever installed on my device.
Would the lab be able to discover any traces of custom ROM installations?
How can I check that?
Thanks!

amir77a said:
I need to service my device due to GPS problems.
Warranty would be most probably void if they find any traces of custom ROM installations.
I've install stock original stock ROM using ODIN.
As far as I know No Knox was ever installed on my device.
Would the lab be able to discover any traces of custom ROM installations?
How can I check that?
Thanks!
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Hi mate,
go to download mode if there is no mention at all of knox , then you are knox free ...your warranty is ok , if there is any mention of knox there check if the knox bit is set to 0x1 if so your warranty bit is set., if not then you are ok

I have always careful to install only Knox free ROMS, so no Knox mention at all.
The stock ROM is Android 4.2.2 prior to Knox.
Will they be able to find somehow any other traces of those ROM's ?

amir77a said:
I have always careful to install only Knox free ROMS, so no Knox mention at all.
The stock ROM is Android 4.2.2 prior to Knox.
Will they be able to find somehow any other traces of those ROM's ?
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hi,
If you flashed rom with Odin , and you kept your bootloader at all times in 4.2.2 and there are no traces at download mode.....they will not find out

I did flashed with Odin, but I don't know if I kept the bootloader in 4.2.2 at all times.
In the past the custom ROM's were 4.4.3, but after the Odin stock ROM flashing, I never installed in ROM/bootloader/root etc. Is that suffice?

amir77a said:
I did flashed with Odin, but I don't know if I kept the bootloader in 4.2.2 at all times.
In the past the custom ROM's were 4.4.3, but after the Odin stock ROM flashing, I never installed in ROM/bootloader/root etc. Is that suffice?
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If you flashed a 4.2.2 stock rom with odin and had no errors at all and settings /about device shows a 4.2.2 rom then you have a 4.2.2 bootloader...there is no way to flash a older bootloader on top of a newer one....

I did flash stock ROM with Odin, and had no errors at all, and the about device shows a 4.2.2, BUT I had several ROMs with 4.4.3, such as Omega, and also Philz touch CWM.
So it seems that I was able to flash older bootloader over newer one. Am I wrong?
Sorry if I'm asking to much questions.. just trying to understand that.
Thanks again!

amir77a said:
I did flash stock ROM with Odin, and had no errors at all, and the about device shows a 4.2.2, BUT I had several ROMs with 4.4.3, such as Omega, and also Philz touch CWM.
So it seems that I was able to flash older bootloader over newer one. Am I wrong?
Sorry if I'm asking to much questions.. just trying to understand that.
Thanks again!
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no problem
Custom roms do not have bootloaders only stock roms , there is no way ( yet) to flash a 4.22 bootloader on top of a 4.3 bootloader...so if you have right now a stock 4.2.2 firmware you never flashed a 4.3 bootloader
Omega never have bootloaders in their rom

OK got it!
I never flash stock 4.3.x ROM, hence bootloader remains 4.2.2.
Thanks so much!

[Q] (Noob?) question - stock 4.3 to custom 4.4 rom

I've been trying to figure this out for the last day, with no success.
I've got a rooted Note 3 N9005 (MJ7) stock. this is a 4.3 Rom. Knox status is0x0 (didn't trip it when I've rooted it ages ago).
I had enough of sammy rom, and I want to play with some of the new 4.4.4 custom roms.
I'm totally and utterly lost regarding what's tripping knox, and what are the needed steps in order to achieve that.
From what I understand, flashing TWRP (or any other custom recovery) will trip knox. I'm fine with that.
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to first upgrade my 4.3 to an official 4.4.2, and what / if is all the lock/unlock bootloader which seems to differ between versions (4.3 and 4.4). There also seem to be different versions of TWRP depending on if you're on 4.3 or 4.4?
Can I simply flash TWRP on my rooted 4.3, backup, flash new shinny 4.4.4 rom, and be happy ? Will that keep the root ?
Otherwise, do i need to upgrade to official 4.4.2 version first? will that lose root and I'll have to reroot the new version, and then flash TWRP and then flash 4.4.4 roms?
Any kind of help (or point me to an article that discusses it, even though I didn't find any, and i've searched) will be highly appreciated.
Cheers and thanks in advance.

_Noctis_ said:
I've been trying to figure this out for the last day, with no success.
I've got a rooted Note 3 N9005 (MJ7) stock. this is a 4.3 Rom. Knox status is0x0 (didn't trip it when I've rooted it ages ago).
I had enough of sammy rom, and I want to play with some of the new 4.4.4 custom roms.
I'm totally and utterly lost regarding what's tripping knox, and what are the needed steps in order to achieve that.
From what I understand, flashing TWRP (or any other custom recovery) will trip knox. I'm fine with that.
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to first upgrade my 4.3 to an official 4.4.2, and what / if is all the lock/unlock bootloader which seems to differ between versions (4.3 and 4.4). There also seem to be different versions of TWRP depending on if you're on 4.3 or 4.4?
Can I simply flash TWRP on my rooted 4.3, backup, flash new shinny 4.4.4 rom, and be happy ? Will that keep the root ?
Otherwise, do i need to upgrade to official 4.4.2 version first? will that lose root and I'll have to reroot the new version, and then flash TWRP and then flash 4.4.4 roms?
Any kind of help (or point me to an article that discusses it, even though I didn't find any, and i've searched) will be highly appreciated.
Cheers and thanks in advance.
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If you aren't concerned about KNOX, upgrade to a 4.4 ROM (Official) via ODIN which will upgrade the bootloader, then once that's all done, flash TWRP for 4.4 then download your ROMs and flash via TWRP as normal.

radicalisto said:
If you aren't concerned about KNOX, upgrade to a 4.4 ROM (Official) via ODIN which will upgrade the bootloader, then once that's all done, flash TWRP for 4.4 then download your ROMs and flash via TWRP as normal.
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Not concerned any more ...
Out of curiosity, what exactly kills the root? flashing a rom doesn't. upgrading via odin ? I'm assuming it has nothing to do with the system/cache, since each flash usually wipes them, so, where does it live?
Cheers

_Noctis_ said:
Not concerned any more ...
Out of curiosity, what exactly kills the root? flashing a rom doesn't. upgrading via odin ? I'm assuming it has nothing to do with the system/cache, since each flash usually wipes them, so, where does it live?
Cheers
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Reflashing the ROM back to stock is what kills root. It's easy to re-root again once you've tripped KNOX anyways.
But tbh, once you install a custom recovery after you've upgraded your boot loader, you won't need to root. It isn't required for custom recovery
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EDIT: Have you used ODIN to flash stock images before? If not, have a read around, it's pretty straight forward though.

radicalisto said:
Reflashing the ROM back to stock is what kills root. It's easy to re-root again once you've tripped KNOX anyways.
But tbh, once you install a custom recovery after you've upgraded your boot loader, you won't need to root. It isn't required for custom recovery
Sent from my Spectrum ZX +2
EDIT: Have you used ODIN to flash stock images before? If not, have a read around, it's pretty straight forward though.
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I see ... so -> flash stock (kills root) -> flash TWRP (trips knox) -> flash custom rom without worrying about root ? (wouldn't i need it for titanium backup ,or do custom roms come with SU preinstalled?)
Yep, used odin. file on comp, download mode, couple of ticks, clicky clicky, happiness ensues ...

Yeah you're pretty much spot on. Yeah most ROMs are pre-rooted and if they aren't you can just flash superSU via your recovery. But you should be good to go and know what you're doing by the sounds of it.
Enjoy flashing them ROMs and make an efs backup and store off the device too. There's an adb script for it here (forget where but its here, development thread I think) don't use any apps from the play store as they are notorious for bricking Samsung devices.
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radicalisto said:
Yeah you're pretty much spot on. Yeah most ROMs are pre-rooted and if they aren't you can just flash superSU via your recovery. But you should be good to go and know what you're doing by the sounds of it.
Enjoy flashing them ROMs and make an efs backup and store off the device too. There's an adb script for it here (forget where but its here, development thread I think) don't use any apps from the play store as they are notorious for bricking Samsung devices.
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lol ...notorious for bricking samsung devices ... i like it ...
i ran one already (zipped a 6MB and a 14.5MB image and tar into a 300kb zip), and been told you can do that from inside TWRP as well ...
I'll take a deep breath, and start downloading the official image and roms ...
I'll update if i'll get to the other side

out of curiosity ... does it matter which official 4.4.2 image i'm flashing ? (i'm getting the NZ one ...but i assume they should all be similar, and / or that it doesn't matter since i'll be flashing something else on it anyways, right ?

_Noctis_ said:
out of curiosity ... does it matter which official 4.4.2 image i'm flashing ? (i'm getting the NZ one ...but i assume they should all be similar, and / or that it doesn't matter since i'll be flashing something else on it anyways, right ?
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Yeah try and keep to the country your device is from, otherwise you have to find the right PIT file, and the partitions vary etc

radicalisto said:
Yeah try and keep to the country your device is from, otherwise you have to find the right PIT file, and the partitions vary etc
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Rubbish. ..I don't recall seeing an australian one... I'll have another look, otherwise ill look into the pit thingy. Thanks.