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Hi guys,
I just want to know, what battery life are you guys getting with push email turned on. I have to charge my phone almost twice a day with reasonable use.
10 emails
1 hour calls
4 sms
1 hour web browsing
(no wifi or gps)
I can get 3 days with push switched on if I only use 2G and don't use the phone very much.
ie. push isn't a big battery drain in itself.
Maybe push is not big battery drain but being connected to 3G or HSDPA network is BBBBBBIIIIIGGGG battery drain.
I can get through near the week (5 or 6 days) making a few phone calls and SMS with Data Off whereas with 3G on, I will barely last 2 days (and surfing in the train when going to work (2h), battery will not last a day !!). And as push mail implies data on, I would say that it has an impact !!
3G kills the battery.
You can still push email through 2g.
I wonder if someone can create a program that will automatically switch the modes on and off depending on the amount of data being transmitted?
aad4321 said:
still nothing out there to switch it to 2g when the screen is off huh?
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THAT! would be an awesome feature.
Data = radio being used, display = live wallpapers and the amount of time the screen stays on plus other additions are a big battery drain but sync in itself isn't that bad even on 3G and I have a G1 with its crappy battery.
Check Settings...About Phone...Battery Use to see what is using the most power. This can help identify unexpected battery drain.
For example some people also forget about widgets that use data like the weather and news widget. To maximize battery turn off all "background data" apps that you don't really use.
Also get Advanced Task Killer and set it to auto kill apps that you don't want running long term (be sure to setup the exclude list for those you want running).
You can use the Power Control widget to enable and disable unused items like Wifi, bluetooth, GPS, and background data.
Set your screen brightness to as low comfortable. On my phone the screen uses the most battery so this is important. You can use the Power Control widget to increase brightness quickly if needed.
Use 2G to save battery. For most stuff it's really not that bad. Use Wifi when you can as uses less power than 2G and is faster than 3G.
I use my phone a lot and it lasts all day. I don't really care if it lasts longer than 16 hours or so if it does all the fun stuff I want between charges.
^Excellent tips! Welcome to XDA!
My 3G is on all the time and I can see my battery life draining bit and bit even though I just on the 3G but didnt surf at all. Any ways I can work this around to prolong my battery life?
Turn it on to 2g only in settings. You can even make a shortcut to it to make it quicker if you want.
how quick is quick? I mean the average battery should last you about 1 day on heavy use for me at least it used to... turn down brightness wifi gps any thing you dont use on occasion
Disable 2G!!!!
Dialer -- *#*#4636#*#* -- info -- preferred network WCDMA ONLY.
How many have actually bought this? Is it a huge increase in battery life? My phones battery life is really poor and I am wondering if this purchase resolves that. I use wifi all the time, like its on 100% of the time I am at home and such, even when Im not using it
Mark271 said:
How many have actually bought this? Is it a huge increase in battery life? My phones battery life is really poor and I am wondering if this purchase resolves that. I use wifi all the time, like its on 100% of the time I am at home and such, even when Im not using it
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Get Tasker instead. Same feature and much more
kolyan said:
Get Tasker instead. Same feature and much more
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I read that, is there anyway I can find out what to do with Tasker to save battery life?
Like, what are some awesome things with Tasker. I see people post but it is usually people really not know what to do and such.
Mark271 said:
I read that, is there anyway I can find out what to do with Tasker to save battery life?
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As far as battery goes, u can control brightness, wifi, gps, data, syncs, and bluetooth. I personally have custom time settings for brightness and screen timeouts, that's it.
kolyan said:
As far as battery goes, u can control brightness, wifi, gps, data, syncs, and bluetooth. I personally have custom time settings for brightness and screen timeouts, that's it.
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Could you say, turn wifi off after 2 minutes of screen time out, and turn on after 1 minute of screen on?
A lot of people are saying it uses more battery life, definitely not what I want.
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Could you say, turn wifi off after 2 minutes of screen time out, and turn on after 1 minute of screen on?
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U can tell Tasker to do anything u want. Both Tasker and Juice Defender can drain battery if u configure them wrong.
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A lot of people are saying it uses more battery life, definitely not what I want.
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It depends on how you use it. If you have Tasker using your GPS every 2 minutes (the default) to detect your location then yes, it's going to suck power.
I have mine set up to use the Near WIFI option to detect when I'm at work or home, and like you I leave my WIFI on all the time. It uses very minimal power.
Leaving WIFI on isn't too big of a deal. It goes to sleep after 5 minutes of the phone being off, and it pings out every so often to see what networks are there, but the power draw is minimal.
Last weekend I tested out Juice Defender to see how long my battery could last. 1d8h53m (~33hours) later my phone hit 10%. I plan on testing again this weekend with Juice Defender disabled to see what kind of difference there is.
I have used Juice Defender for about a week now and while I have found substantial battery savings I have also noticed that on its default settings it also causes issues for me. The main way juice saves battery is by turning off data services for 14 min out of every 15 min when the screen is off.
The problem I run into with this is that if you use gtalk or any instant messenger it will disconnect and reconnect you from those services. I have missed messages due to this. It also seems to affect the status of your friends on gtalk. My friends would always show offline until i sent them a message to "wake up the service" then they would show accurately until the screen went off again.
Overall for me the tradeoffs were not worth it. Also I was never thrilled with the idea of having to wait up to 13 min to get an email, push email should be instant.
Just my 2 cents
U can save battery by configuring brightness. Ex. I have auto brightness from 8-7 and min setting other times.
12 hours and my phone was dead with MINIMAL use, then I started to use switchpro to disable my data when im not using it. usually have my brightness about halfway down, and now my battery lasts 20 hours easy with alot of texting, a few calls, and games. I need to try tasker but this way works pretty well... if you haven't tried it yet
Hey guys, so ive had my nexus 4 for around 4 months now? might be more and the battery is just terrible, obviously we already know this as ive seen so many people post about it and such
my question is this, what do you guys use to save battery? Im currently on XYLON ROM with Perf-enhanced-Stock-422 kernel which isnt bad, theres nothing wrong with it in fact but i literally only get around 2 hours screen on time, terrible i know
ive heard people say flash android 4.2.2 and then flash a custom rom, apparently it helps or something? not fact but ive seen a few people solve it with this issue
What kind of roms and kernels are you guys using? And what governor?
Cheers guys, Jack
I've seen most people running Franco kernel with either cyanogen mod 10.1, PAC or paranoid android. You'll probably get a similar battery life with all of them, and probably the best your going to get.
Check your wake locks, use juice defender, check you're not dropping in and out of signal (hammers battery), turn of location settings...
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AKOP or CM with franco give me hours (4+) of calling or 1.5 days of moderate use.
I also have notification widgets on so I can quickly switch BT/WIFI/Brightness AND I make use of nfc tags so when I'm home wifi is auto turned on and when in the car it turns off.
From my experience, these battery saving apps such as juice defender are not good, you shouldn't use them.
About the battery life, there are tons of recommendations... stop syncing, turn brightness to as low as possible, turn off 3G when you don't need it...
Dont use your phone..
Seriously now, the battery is not bad at all, and in battery usage cases you need to state your usage of the phone (games, mail, 3g on most of the time? widgets? surfing and screen on time)
Without those parameters none can determine if you have wakelocks problem / some app is draining your battery or eventually maybe it's only psychological problem
Take in mind even on auto brightness, if you are playing heavy games dont expect to last a day or so..
Tricepz is on the money!
Need to analyze Your usage!
Most importantly you need to understand that this is not a primary game console or music player.
Things that drain battery fast!
1) Live Wallpaper
2) Games
3) Phone calls
4) Equalizers
5) Apps
Best to monitor your usage!
Personally I use the phone as follows for 16 to 22 hrs of usage.
Bus
1) 4 hrs of music with quality headphones that have noise canceling tech. Abel Planet 200b with built in amplifier.
2) 3 phone calls a day!
3) No games ! Have a tablet for that
4) Minimal reader for new feeds only updates once a day.
5) Music app either Apollo or NexMusic great music players without equalizer. simple controls.
On an average day headed to work paying bills I see 10 to 12 hrs easy.
Busy day on my phone 8 to 10 hrs.
Turn off services you don't need or use.
WIFI - Turn it off when you leave your house and when you don't need it. Leaving it on will drain power as it will continue to scan for a connection.
GPS - Turn off your GPS if you don't need.
Sync - Sync when you need to. Turn it off and access it manually.
Bluetooth - Turn it off when you don't need it
Location services - Go to the Settings menu and head over to Location access and switch "Access to my location" to off.
Backup services - Head over "Backup & Reset" and uncheck "Back up my data".
Screen brightness - The lower the brightness, the more power you'll save.
Apps - Applications like facebook and Google Maps will remain online as it runs in the background. As a result it will drain your battery. It can prevent your phone from entering deep-sleep to preserve power.
Signal - Connection is very important. If you're in a area where service is low to poor, your phone will draw more power to stay connected to the nearest cell antenna/tower. It's best to turn off on connections if you're in a no service area. Simply put the phone in "Airplane mode".
Usage - Battery life is dependent to whatever tasks you are performing on your phone. If you play games daily for a long period of time, then you should expect the battery to decrease dramatically. Conversely, if you just email, text, browse the web, make calls, little to no games then your battery life of the phone should last for quite a long time.
Useful apps
Greenify - This application allows you to hibernate apps from starting up like facebook, Google Maps and many more annoying apps that run in the background when they shouldn't be running. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
Wakelock Detector - This wonderful app identifies apps that running during your usage and sees which one has been running the longest without your consent. You can use this with Greenify. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS51enVtYXBwcy53YWtlbG9ja2RldGVjdG9yIl0.
BetteryBatteryStats - Similar to wakelock detector but offers a more in-depth look of wakelocks that active during your usage. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wiY29tLmFza3N2ZW4uYmV0dGVyYmF0dGVyeXN0YXRzIl0.
Kernels and roms
One major reason why root is amazing. Kernels offer tweaks that are beneficial for the phone to perform smoother and offer amazing battery life. Offers more tweaks as well like gamma and undervolting. Roms can contribute a small portion of battery saving but not much.
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Adding Maps to Greenify usually helps a lot regarding battery life, can leave GPS on for other apps when doing this and won't suck any battery.
try franco or faux and then UV and UO ` its works for me, 4+ screen time easily :fingers-crossed:
I didnt expect so many comments! ive used franko kernel and air kernel before and no change
ill try some of them apps that everyone has mentioned
again thanks guys! Jack
Just use a ROM for a while, let the battery do some cycles, and use the phone for that, as a phone, remember that we have a Quad Core here, i'm on stock rooted only, and last night i get 12h20m37s with 4h48m SOT with about 7% left, so that's pretty good. And i really use my phone, Twitter, Flipboard, G+, Wifi on all the way, Sync on.
rskyline said:
Just use a ROM for a while, let the battery do some cycles, and use the phone for that, as a phone, remember that we have a Quad Core here, i'm on stock rooted only, and last night i get 12h20m37s with 4h48m SOT with about 7% left, so that's pretty good. And i really use my phone, Twitter, Flipboard, G+, Wifi on all the way, Sync on.
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I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
JackHanAnLG said:
I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
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Yep definitely something's not right, facebook is known to be a battery drainer, i suggest to you that open it up on the browser and uninstall the app, try it!
JackHanAnLG said:
I guess you are one of the lucky ones! i hardly use my phone for gaming, i have 2 games on there and i use facebook twitter tumblr etc 3G is only on when i leave the house but other then its on wifi
just got to 46% with 1hr 50mins screen on time so ill probably get around 3 hours today.. i just dont think its good enough :/
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With 80% left I have 1hr of screen on and 10mins of call time, this is with whatever kernel the latest CM nightly is using, so yeah you could definitely get better but I have to think facebook is the contributor since I too have twitter (plume) and tumblr without the same battery drain.
greenify is a must to disable rude apps which do thing without asking, like facebook, games, etc, they connect to internet to download ads and sttuff, facebook being the worse cpu eater
i use 2g only, wify in home, disable wifi outside,
only wassap active, some opera mini browsing, pics, talk, sms, little gaming, i get 1.5 days
off course heavy gaming kills the battery, because of 3d, even 2d games drain the battery because of the screen, like angry birds
using stock 422 + franco
I like to use JuiceDefender only when the phone's battery gets really low and I want to sacrifice some functionality. It works well, but only if you allow it to keep 3G/Wifi off when the screen is off.
I use facebook so much though, ugh :/ ill give it a go and if the battery lasts longer then ill get rid of it
single biggest difference I've seen is to stay on wifi all the time as much as possible. I leave it on no matter what. Granted if you are out and about, it won't help but once you get to home/work/friends/etc, your phone will immediately connect and start saving you juice.
91% after 8 hours with light usage at work. With 3G, I normally would be approaching 60-70% by now with light usage. That 3G drain is real and should be avoided whenever possible.
Don't play games. It seems like no matter what game I play, it'll almost always lock my cpu to the max frequency until I exit. Even really simple non graphics intense games.
Well ideally you're biggest battery drainer should be the the display. If it's not then read below.
1) So for the screen the best way to go is to get a stable custom rom like xenon and tinker with the auto brightness settings. Tweak out auto brightness settings to your liking (they're generally very overbright by default) and you'll see major increases in data.
2) Screen aside your other biggest drainer is cell radio. Particularly if you're in a low signal area it will drain your battery really fast. So if your using wifi anyway be sure to turn data off and switch to 2g. That way you'll have a strong signal and 2g drains less battery anyway.
3) As some people have mentioned already. rogue apps. Social networking apps are a huge drainer in this regard. Especially facebook. You just can't have that app on your phone and get decent battery. As for other apps which draw on unnecessary background data, Greenify their a**es.
LG G3 Screen on Time Discussion
Greetings all.
Firstly, this is not a thread to discuss resolution changing! There are several of those already and it has been established that it does not have a viable effect on battery life!
I started this thread as I thought we could use a useful thread which we will discuss SOLEY (SOT) screen on time. After sifting through the rather disorganised battery life discussions I was left with mixed ideas of what a general screen on time for the LG G3 was. There are of course several of these battery threads, but as they all talk about all aspects of battery life, standby included, I thought it would be nice to get some ideas of SOT congregating in one thread.
Format
First of all there needs to be a format in which we standardise our discussion. If you are going to post complaining about SOT or saying how great your SOT is please format your post like so. I propose the following.
Model:
Rom and Version/Kernel:
Modem/Baseband:
Carrier/Country:
GPS:
WIFI:
Data (4g/3g/2g/none):
Explanation of use/modifications:
Screenshots (3% or below):
Would you please state in the explanation, your use of battery saving apps such as Greenify, Amplify, Automatic Data toggles, Tasker, Xposed and so on. Note any messaging/email clients installed as these will have an obvious effect on SOT. What are your syncing settings? For the screen shots post any that seem interesting but a 3% or below is preferred. Mention something about your use, if it was gaming, web browsing, listening to music, or with a long period of standby time. Also please state an aproximation of your brightness settings plus any debloating that you have done, and anything else you think is of relevance!
This is the proposed format for posting. We should be able to get a fantastic database of SOT for the LG G3.
I do realise that everyone's usage differs greatly and it will vary according to brightness, location and many different factors such as how long the phone has been in standby etcetera.. But don't let that stop you posting. I will start.
My Screen on TimeModel: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: Cloudy 2.5 and kernel
Modem/Baseband: 20P
Carrier/Country: Telecom Italia
GPS: No
WIFI: No
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G on constantly
Explanation of use/modifications: Fast dormancy disabled. All the bloatware frozen with titanium back up. Whats app was the only IM installed plus skype. Screen brightness was roughly below 60% almost the whole time on auto. No gaming. Music listening for 20min, reading xda for the majority of the time, plus a bit of downtime for dinner. No greenify, amplify or data toggles. Purely let it run how it goes. Although I did have the sharpening set to disabled. My signal was around 2 bars for most of the time and my sync for everything was disabled, contacts, all google sync stuff. I had also disabled back ground data for the Google Play Store, which results in a pop up error, but this can be fixed by exiting and resarting the Play Store.
Screenshots (3% or below):
Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Now thats inpressive. Do you live next to a cell phone tower? Or have an extended battery or what! Thats some impressive screen on time. Do you think you could get more?
This phone has such variation with SOT. More than my old S4, that had maybe 1 hour difference between users at most. But 7 hours SOT!?! What apps do you have installed/not installed. I'm going to flash your setup! That's utterly incredible!
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Now thats inpressive. Do you live next to a cell phone tower? Or have an extended battery or what! Thats some impressive screen on time. Do you think you could get more?
This phone has such variation with SOT. More than my old S4, that had maybe 1 hour difference between users at most. But 7 hours SOT!?! What apps do you have installed/not installed. I'm going to flash your setup! That's utterly incredible!
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My cell signal is normally 2-3 bars so not especially strong. Just the stock original battery, around 6 months old at this point.
I have installed nova launcher, basic Google apps, poweramp, chrome, just typical everyday stuff. Removed everything LG except quickremote and quick note.
Could probably push over 8 hours if I underclocked more and messed about with custom kernels but I want to maintain the performance and stability I have.
I don't know how you guys can get 5 hours SOT.I barely get 4 hours sot and that too only on wifi.
Location is turned off,gestures off.Bright ess always on 35%.
I use whatsapp,fb,tapatalk and youtube.Little bit of gaming.
I have a used d855 and it was from an australian carrier "Optus" but i have flashed v20u kdz,rooted and using gabriel kernel.
I don't know if it's battery have got weaker.It's one terminal has gone somewhat black but other three are fine.
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My cell signal is normally 2-3 bars so not especially strong. Just the stock original battery, around 6 months old at this point.
I have installed nova launcher, basic Google apps, poweramp, chrome, just typical everyday stuff. Removed everything LG except quickremote and quick note.
Could probably push over 8 hours if I underclocked more and messed about with custom kernels but I want to maintain the performance and stability I have.
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That is still phenomenal. I cannot comprehend having 7+ hours of SOT. It really is the only real gauge of battery life. At least for me. Idle battery drain is easily fixed by controlling wakelocks, but SOT is the main thing that I look for in a smart phone.
Before I bought this phone, which was about a week ago, I was impressed by 5 hours SOT, but knowing that this phone can have upwards of 7 hours makes me want to look into this issue more. It doesnt make sense to me. Do you have a BBS log from these screen on times?
Was your update OTA? I assume so. I currently don't have any wifi so I'm going to search for a hotspot, download the firmware from the XDA thread, flash it and see how I go. I am in Italy so it could be interesting.
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I don't know how you guys can get 5 hours SOT.I barely get 4 hours sot and that too only on wifi.
Location is turned off,gestures off.Bright ess always on 35%.
I use whatsapp,fb,tapatalk and youtube.Little bit of gaming.
I have a used d855 and it was from an australian carrier "Optus" but i have flashed v20u kdz,rooted and using gabriel kernel.
I don't know if it's battery have got weaker.It's one terminal has gone somewhat black but other three are fine.
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The gaming really kills it. The GPU has a time with the screen. At least thats what I have found. I did about 20 min of that Shark Game to test out the phone and got 5 hours + SOT by 2% remaining. Facebook wont be helping. Whatsapp doesn't seem to be a problem for me on the drain side. It drains a bit, but not alot. Also does Optus support Fast Dormancy? If not its probably best to disable it.
Remeber to post in the above format so we can start to piece together the perfect combinations!
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Mother of god..
asingha94 said:
Mother of god..
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That's what I thought..
Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Post in the format from my first post and we can compare and see how we can help!
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Post in the format from my first post and we can compare and see how we can help!
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: Telenor HU
GPS: Off
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
CloudyG3 v2.5, fast dormancy disabled. Max CPU frequency left as is, No CTT mod sharpening disabled. Brightness at 30%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen of as well as watching Youtube. I'm also using facebook messenger, google hangouts and skype sometimes. No battery saving apps.
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Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Zunex95 said:
Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: Telenor HU
GPS: Off
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
CloudyG3 v2.5, fast dormancy disabled. Max CPU frequency left as is, No CTT mod sharpening disabled. Brightness at 30%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen of as well as watching Youtube. I'm also using facebook messenger, google hangouts and skype sometimes. No battery saving apps.
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And you say you are getting around 4 hours SOT? So you are running Cloudy like me, I'm not entirely sure yet, but it seems to me that it could infact be worse than some versions of stock, for screen on time. I'm currently out of Wifi so I have not yet had the chance to flash the 20U stock. I want to try it with my exact set up and see how I go.
That is strange, 4 hours SOT. It's not alot. I have auto sync disabled, along with every google syncing aplication under accounts disabled so nothing syncs. I also disabled back ground data for the Google Play store, which causes an abort dialog sometimes, but it is easily fixed by exiting the app, swiping it from recents and starting it again.
I also have my 3G set to only 3G whichvis annoyingly changed to auto on a reboot. But this certainly helps. As for modems how is your cell signal battery consumption under stock battery info? Whats your period of no signal? Of course, all those messaging apps probably ruin your SOT as most of them are polling all the time, at least try congregating all your messaging into one app, and make sure that app isn't messenger.
Also are you sure your carrier doesn't support FD? Are you getting massive phone wakelocks when FD is enabled?
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And you say you are getting around 4 hours SOT? So you are running Cloudy like me, I'm not entirely sure yet, but it seems to me that it could infact be worse than some versions of stock, for screen on time. I'm currently out of Wifi so I have not yet had the chance to flash the 20U stock. I want to try it with my exact set up and see how I go.
That is strange, 4 hours SOT. It's not alot. I have auto sync disabled, along with every google syncing aplication under accounts disabled so nothing syncs. I also disabled back ground data for the Google Play store, which causes an abort dialog sometimes, but it is easily fixed by exiting the app, swiping it from recents and starting it again.
I also have my 3G set to only 3G whichvis annoyingly changed to auto on a reboot. But this certainly helps. As for modems how is your cell signal battery consumption under stock battery info? Whats your period of no signal? Of course, all those messaging apps probably ruin your SOT as most of them are polling all the time, at least try congregating all your messaging into one app, and make sure that app isn't messenger.
Also are you sure your carrier doesn't support FD? Are you getting massive phone wakelocks when FD is enabled?
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4 hours of SOT would be awesome for me. As I said it's only 2,5 hours nowadays. I got Gmail syncing all the time as it's essential for my work. There isn't any time without signal but the phone idle and cell standby is right under the screen in consumption with 10-15% each. My phone sleeps well, almost no battery usage while the screen is off. But as soon as I turn on the screen it goes crazy and consumes battery like mad. Messenger must be a huge battery drain but I used to have the 4 hrs of SOT even 5 on lighter days with messenger. I don't think my carrier support FD. It's a small country without any really advanced tech.
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4 hours of SOT would be awesome for me. As I said it's only 2,5 hours nowadays. I got Gmail syncing all the time as it's essential for my work. There isn't any time without signal but the phone idle and cell standby is right under the screen in consumption with 10-15% each. My phone sleeps well, almost no battery usage while the screen is off. But as soon as I turn on the screen it goes crazy and consumes battery like mad. Messenger must be a huge battery drain but I used to have the 4 hrs of SOT even 5 on lighter days with messenger. I don't think my carrier support FD. It's a small country without any really advanced tech.
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Well it seems to me that your problem would be your modem/baseband/radio. If cell standby is up there with screen, I would assume that your phone doesn't have great reception. I say this because, supposing you have your screen off for a long period yet the radio isn't communicating that much data, but then once you turn the screen on, I'm going to assume that you are using the internet for browsing or responding to emails, messages ect? I would think that this would mean the phone must send alot more data with a bad signal, which could suggest why your standby times are fine and you SOT times aren't so good. 3G is definetly the way to go for SOT, you have no chance on 4G. Try enabling FD and seeing if phone starts having wakelocks in Better Battery Stats.
I also advise that you swap out Gmail for something a bit less ruthlessly active on the syncing side of things. I use stock, some people like others like cloudmagic, but there are a billion so try them out. Something that you can at least customise more to be push or pull and not syncing every 5 min. You can probably also disable all of the google account syncing tasks. Download greenify, and it has a setting there that allows you to see all the hidden Google services syncing tasks under accounts. I find that is one of the best things about Greenify. I don't use it for freezing apps, but that setting helps stop your phone syncing every second. For example who cares about chrome bookmarks syncing? Not me.
Edit: Sorry I just read that again. 2.5 hours S0T. That is utterly horrendous. Attach a BBS log.
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Well it seems to me that your problem would be your modem/baseband/radio. If cell standby is up there with screen, I would assume that your phone doesn't have great reception. I say this because, supposing you have your screen off for a long period yet the radio isn't communicating that much data, but then once you turn the screen on, I'm going to assume that you are using the internet for browsing or responding to emails, messages ect? I would think that this would mean the phone must send alot more data with a bad signal, which could suggest why your standby times are fine and you SOT times aren't so good. 3G is definetly the way to go for SOT, you have no chance on 4G. Try enabling FD and seeing if phone starts having wakelocks in Better Battery Stats.
I also advise that you swap out Gmail for something a bit less ruthlessly active on the syncing side of things. I use stock, some people like others like cloudmagic, but there are a billion so try them out. Something that you can at least customise more to be push or pull and not syncing every 5 min. You can probably also disable all of the google account syncing tasks. Download greenify, and it has a setting there that allows you to see all the hidden Google services syncing tasks under accounts. I find that is one of the best things about Greenify. I don't use it for freezing apps, but that setting helps stop your phone syncing every second. For example who cares about chrome bookmarks syncing? Not me.
Edit: Sorry I just read that again. 2.5 hours S0T. That is utterly horrendous. Attach a BBS log.
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Sorry for the delay answer and thanks for you help so far. I've tried out your Greenify tips and install a more recent version of the kernel i'm running now as it was having battery drain issues. Also I noticed someting weird in BBS. Please see my attachment.
"No or unknown signal" 100%. Is it normal? Can it be the issue?
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Sorry for the delay answer and thanks for you help so far. I've tried out your Greenify tips and install a more recent version of the kernel i'm running now as it was having battery drain issues. Also I noticed someting weird in BBS. Please see my attachment.
"No or unknown signal" 100%. Is it normal? Can it be the issue?
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Nah, I don't think so. Unless you actually have no reception? I get that too sometimes. I'm not sure if it is a bug or what it is, but if you had signal the whole time then you can probably ignore it. I had that too and wondered what it was. Never found out.
Also make sure you have your data set to 3G not auto and manually select your provider under cellphone networks. Because I have a feeling if you say you want to stay on the same one, you wont have it trying to switch when the signal gets low from that provider, it will just go to no signal. I'm not sure about your carrier, but some carriers have a switch over agreement with other carriers, which would make your signal reception reporting not entirely accurate. If you select one provider. It will always be that one provider
Here you go I will attach one of my BBS logs from when I got more than 5 hours SOT.
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Nah, I don't think so. Unless you actually have no reception? I get that too sometimes. I'm not sure if it is a bug or what it is, but if you had signal the whole time then you can probably ignore it. I had that too and wondered what it was. Never found out.
Also make sure you have your data set to 3G not auto and manually select your provider under cellphone networks. Because I have a feeling if you say you want to stay on the same one, you wont have it trying to switch when the signal gets low from that provider, it will just go to no signal. I'm not sure about your carrier, but some carriers have a switch over agreement with other carriers, which would make your signal reception reporting not entirely accurate. If you select one provider. It will always be that one provider
Here you go I will attach one of my BBS logs from when I got more than 5 hours SOT.
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No, here in Hungary there is no agreement. It will only stay on my provider. Our 4G and 2G coverage is great but the 3G one is not so. I need to have 2g on too. Usually I got 2 or 3 bars at home. While in the city it really depends. Sometimes barely any signal, then all of a sudden max bars. Maybe my battery is faulty?
Edit: Also you got No or Unknown Signal (): 11 m 21 s 2.1% while I got 100%. I need to figure this one out.
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No, here in Hungary there is no agreement. It will only stay on my provider. Our 4G and 2G coverage is great but the 3G one is not so. I need to have 2g on too. Usually I got 2 or 3 bars at home. While in the city it really depends. Sometimes barely any signal, then all of a sudden max bars. Maybe my battery is faulty?
Edit: Also you got No or Unknown Signal (): 11 m 21 s 2.1% while I got 100%. I need to figure this one out.
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Yes I noticed that too. Interesting. I suppose that you could try a new modem? Perhaps that would help your 3g signal?
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Yes I noticed that too. Interesting. I suppose that you could try a new modem? Perhaps that would help your 3g signal?
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I changed modem, now I'm waiting for results. So far better. Also I noticed one more thing. My battery charges itself overnight. I went to sleep with 50% remaining when I woke up it went up to 52%. This happens very often. Also, when I'm using it under 30% it discharges even faster. Is it the battery or it's just miscalibrated? I've tried calibrating it by draining it almost to 0 then turned it off and offline charged it until it was full. Never worked. Anymore tricks?
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I changed modem, now I'm waiting for results. So far better. Also I noticed one more thing. My battery charges itself overnight. I went to sleep with 50% remaining when I woke up it went up to 52%. This happens very often. Also, when I'm using it under 30% it discharges even faster. Is it the battery or it's just miscalibrated? I've tried calibrating it by draining it almost to 0 then turned it off and offline charged it until it was full. Never worked. Anymore tricks?
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Yeah, I noticed the exact same phenomenon actually, draining speeding up from 30%. I made a thread about it but no one took any interest. I read somewhere that perhaps LG does it to create a false sense of better battery. I would like to find the problem here though, because it is a rather annoying problem. Having inaccurate battery readings under 30% is the last thing you want. Perhaps they made it like that to make the battery saver feature seem like it is doing more than it really is?
As for charging over night I had that too on some other devices. I think it is a common bug across android or general lion batteries, because it's not uncommon to hear about. I'm sure there is a lot of discussion out there about it. Still, two percent is rather nice to gain over night without charging!
One more question, are you using the stock charger?