I'm thinking of getting a 'fully unlocked' S5 from an auction site. The seller has AT&T (SMG-900A) and T-Mobile (SMG-900T) versions available. Which is best? How do they differ from the international version apart from the printed logo and some carrier specific apps? Can they both be rooted?
The T-Mobile version has more bands of LTE support in the US. I am on ATT, and I bought a T-Mobile S5 a few days ago. I am loving the phone so far, and plan on getting it fully rooted and unlocked shortly. The international version that is sold doesn't have LTE band support. Both the ATT and T-Mobile versions can be rooted.
After using the G900A with AT&T (twice lol) I decided to pick up T-Mobile's S5 last Friday. Already running a custom rom and kernel. Love it. Only wish LTE reception was better optimized for AT&T's band 17.
Treybonew said:
The T-Mobile version has more bands of LTE support in the US. I am on ATT, and I bought a T-Mobile S5 a few days ago. I am loving the phone so far, and plan on getting it fully rooted and unlocked shortly. The international version that is sold doesn't have LTE band support. Both the ATT and T-Mobile versions can be rooted.
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That's incorrect. the ATT version cannot be rooted as of right now and has a locked bootloader. Definitely go with the Tmobile version if you want rooting and flashing ROMS
devoidx said:
That's incorrect. the ATT version cannot be rooted as of right now and has a locked bootloader. Definitely go with the Tmobile version if you want rooting and flashing ROMS
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How to check this on phone before buying?
zic1 said:
How to check this on phone before buying?
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You can see the phone model in settings>about phone
T-Mobile is SM-G900T
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devoidx said:
You can see the phone model in settings>about phone
Thanks! Please, can you help little bit more...
In case that bootloader is unlockable what will be stated in section "About phone"?
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I have the International Original N7000 Note. It is unlocked and I have used it on ATT since it came out. I'm rooted and have Rocket ROM on it
Since it was always my phone, I never worried about ATT giving me a hard time about it being Rooted.
But I am thinking of upgrading to the new Note 3 from ATT.
I'm sure ROMs will be developed for it.
What are the pitfalls with ATT if I root the phone? Other than they wouldn't support it if I bricked it.
Will they Brick it with an Update?
Will they detect it is rooted and give me a hard time?
Looks pretty sharp and I can sell my Unlocked International note for some pretty good change still. But I know I'll want to root the phone.
The AT&T boot loader is locked. It will need to be cracked before a custom ROM is possible, and the S4 hasn't been cracked since the original vulnerability was "fixed" .
You may be out of luck with AT&T.
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The AT&T boot loader is locked. It will need to be cracked before a custom ROM is possible, and the S4 hasn't been cracked since the original vulnerability was "fixed" .
You may be out of luck with AT&T.
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Hmmm, so none of the ATT branded notes could be rooted?
I'll have to look into some other LTE version perhaps.
les_garten said:
Hmmm, so none of the ATT branded notes could be rooted?
I'll have to look into some other LTE version perhaps.
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They may sell the international version, but I don't know if that's unlocked/ rooted. Keep in mind, carrier unlocked isn't the same. e as bootloader unlocked
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They may sell the international version, but I don't know if that's unlocked/ rooted. Keep in mind, carrier unlocked isn't the same. e as bootloader unlocked
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I see on youtube about Custom ROMs being loaded on ATT Note I and II.
So I'm trying to figure out what you guys are talking about here.
les_garten said:
I see on youtube about Custom ROMs being loaded on ATT Note I and II.
So I'm trying to figure out what you guys are talking about here.
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Haha youtube is littered with fake videos man...you need a better source
Anyone know which bands are supported by the VZW version? Is it only 2/3/4/5/13?
TIA
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jblazea50 said:
Anyone know which bands are supported by the VZW version? Is it only 2/3/4/5/13?
TIA
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I just read about this. According to this review: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2500353,00.asp
"It (Verizon Wireless Samsung Galaxy S7) has LTE bands 2/3/4/5/7/8/13/18/19/20/38/39/40/41. Samsung unfortunately removed key LTE bands for the other major US carriers—12 for T-Mobile, 17 for AT&T, and 25 for Sprint—to make it difficult to use this model elsewhere."
I doubt it was Samsung that removed it - more likely, Verizon had them remove the others. Just a guess, tho.
Is there an ELI5 version of this thread? What is the importance of knowing which "bands" are supported?
UndeadCircus said:
Is there an ELI5 version of this thread? What is the importance of knowing which "bands" are supported?
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Using the phone LTE in other carriers. Carriers 'own' certain frequency bands which are used to communicate with your phone. Your phone and the tower need to be able to use the same frequency band in order to communicate.
Most phones work on 2G/3G world wide (except on CDMA carriers like Verizon, generally most phones don't use the tech/frequencies for verzion nor would Verizon allow then on their 2G/3G bands of they did). But LTE is new enough that most phones don't support the 20 odd frequency ranges used (2G/3G use less then 10 combined for most of the world).
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BlackjackWidow said:
I doubt it was Samsung that removed it - more likely, Verizon had them remove the others. Just a guess, tho.
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The modem supports all the bands, Verizon disables it in software. What a bummer! I will suggest you to buy G950U or US cellular model.
Or flash the firmware of the carrier you want to enable the modem which has been successfully posted on a few xda threads and other sites. All snapdragon us variants can be cross flashed.
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Or flash the firmware of the carrier you want to enable the modem which has been successfully posted on a few xda threads and other sites. All snapdragon us variants can be cross flashed.
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You meant, if I flash those firmware on my Verizone S7, can I able to get LTE on my my mobile without any problem? please note am outside US and using efferent carrier sim.
Thanks in advance.
shakkirk said:
You meant, if I flash those firmware on my Verizone S7, can I able to get LTE on my my mobile without any problem? please note am outside US and using efferent carrier sim.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, AT&T bands are in that firmware, evoke TMO bands are in there. Most gsm carriers have all bands except Verizon and Sprint bands enabled
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Yes, AT&T bands are in that firmware, evoke TMO bands are in there. Most gsm carriers have all bands except Verizon and Sprint bands enabled
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Sorry I am noob, can you please give me a step by step installation link?
Thanks in advance
shakkirk said:
Sorry I am noob, can you please give me a step by step installation link?
Thanks in advance
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I don't have links to the firmware, I'm at work. If you look at updato.com you can find the latest for the g930a, or you could get the g930u nougat update. There are plenty of threads that work through Odin usage in each forum in the QA
att s8 question
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I don't have links to the firmware, I'm at work. If you look at updato.com you can find the latest for the g930a, or you could get the g930u nougat update. There are plenty of threads that work through Odin usage in each forum in the QA
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do you know if an unlocked att s8 will work on page plus ? ( basicly Verizon ,same towers)
skindeep75 said:
do you know if an unlocked att s8 will work on page plus ? ( basicly Verizon ,same towers)
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You'd have to check on the s8 forums. An s7 probably would as I think only the Sprint and tmo phones were simlocked. Not sure though as I've only had my ST phone and read the vzw phone being used on several carriers.
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You'd have to check on the s8 forums. An s7 probably would as I think only the Sprint and tmo phones were simlocked. Not sure though as I've only had my ST phone and read the vzw phone being used on several carriers.
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just did a live chat with Samsung and they said an att unlocked s8 will work 100 percent with Verizon, heres to hoping shes right lol
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Or flash the firmware of the carrier you want to enable the modem which has been successfully posted on a few xda threads and other sites. All snapdragon us variants can be cross flashed.
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So are you saying that the actual bands are software based not hardware based. So all we have todo is flash the right ENG and ROM and wala I have right radios for my carrier?? US Based.
Yes, flashing the fw of the carrier loads the correct radio drivers. The radios are hardware based, but locked down by what the firmware has the instructions to look for and run.
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Yes, flashing the fw of the carrier loads the correct radio drivers. The radios are hardware based, but locked down by what the firmware has the instructions to look for and run.
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Great explanation, I’m new to this stuff - we all have to start somewhere right?
So is root required to flash? The reason I ask is that I’d like to buy an S7 but I want to be able to WiFi hotspot tether without carrier provisioning and some versions of the phone allow it while I’m pretty sure others block that (like att)...By the way do you know which version would be best to flash to for WiFi tethering and ALL LTE bands made available? Thanks!
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Great explanation, I’m new to this stuff - we all have to start somewhere right?
So is root required to flash? The reason I ask is that I’d like to buy an S7 but I want to be able to WiFi hotspot tether without carrier provisioning and some versions of the phone allow it while I’m pretty sure others block that (like att)...By the way do you know which version would be best to flash to for WiFi tethering and ALL LTE bands made available? Thanks!
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I use the hybrid rom that is loaded with vzw and debloated custom to my needs. It has tethering enabled. You'll just need to use root long enough to get the flashfire setup going and then once you're done it is unrooted. You'll have to check other threads regarding performance tweaks if you decide to stay rooted.
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Yes, flashing the fw of the carrier loads the correct radio drivers. The radios are hardware based, but locked down by what the firmware has the instructions to look for and run.
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I use the hybrid rom that is loaded with vzw and debloated custom to my needs. It has tethering enabled. You'll just need to use root long enough to get the flashfire setup going and then once you're done it is unrooted. You'll have to check other threads regarding performance tweaks if you decide to stay rooted.
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I thought the bootloader was locked on the Verizon S7 which doesn't allow rooting?... So rooting actually is possible on the Verizon S7?
charter3554 said:
I thought the bootloader was locked on the Verizon S7 which doesn't allow rooting?... So rooting actually is possible on the Verizon S7?
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Using the engineering kernel for nougat you can achieve toy, but it's buggy and slow since it wasn't meant to be used for daily devices. That's why the hybrid ton was developed to show some root uses without needing to keep root, like removing bloat permanently or getting the tethering service setup.
My girlfriends S5 is done with since i bought her a S7.. Can the phone be unlocked at all to be used on other carriers or is it stuck on Virgin?
Well the sm g900p model number is the same as the sprint variant. Which can be used on a few other carriers such as t-mobile and att (3g only on att if i remember correctly). Not sure what baseband your phone has though.
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Well the sm g900p model number is the same as the sprint variant. Which can be used on a few other carriers such as t-mobile and att (3g only on att if i remember correctly). Not sure what baseband your phone has though.
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Baseband is g900pvpu3bog1
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So I have seen multiple people here on the forum claiming to do it or wanting to do it and I am a bit confused. I have an s7 edge on contract from ATT. Can I do this? If I flash T Mobile's firmware on this does this make my phone usable with a T Mobile sim?
Thank you
s7fnatic said:
So I have seen multiple people here on the forum claiming to do it or wanting to do it and I am a bit confused. I have an s7 edge on contract from ATT. Can I do this? If I flash T Mobile's firmware on this does this make my phone usable with a T Mobile sim?
Thank you
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Yes you can and only thing I've noticed not working is video calling and WiFi calling with it seems I get better signal with there's.
bec48 said:
Yes you can and only thing I've noticed not working is video calling and WiFi calling with it seems I get better signal with there's.
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Yes to both questions?
s7fnatic said:
So I have seen multiple people here on the forum claiming to do it or wanting to do it and I am a bit confused. I have an s7 edge on contract from ATT. Can I do this? If I flash T Mobile's firmware on this does this make my phone usable with a T Mobile sim?
Thank you
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Yes you can flash it. I'm currently on T Mobile with ATT.
zombo91 said:
Yes you can flash it. I'm currently on T Mobile with ATT.
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Thank you. I am going to go ahead and give it a try.
bec48 said:
Yes you can and only thing I've noticed not working is video calling and WiFi calling with it seems I get better signal with there's.
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Can you advise the procedure? I'm currently permanently locked to AT&T network and would like to use a carrier (SK Telecom - Korea).
Wouldn't you still need to SIM unlock your AT&T phone to use on T-mobile network? I don't think just flashing another carriers ROM will allow you to use their network. Am I Wrong in thinking this way?
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Yes you can and only thing I've noticed not working is video calling and WiFi calling with it seems I get better signal with there's.
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Was the device on the PK1 firmware before flashing to tmobile??
jabreu203 said:
Wouldn't you still need to SIM unlock your AT&T phone to use on T-mobile network? I don't think just flashing another carriers ROM will allow you to use their network. Am I Wrong in thinking this way?
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I had the same question and that's why I haven't done anything on my phone so far. Also it does not help that I am a noob with all these things and dont want to mess up my phone since this is my daily driver.
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Was the device on the PK1 firmware before flashing to tmobile??
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I am not sure if I am looking at the right place but I think you are looking for the build number right? Mine is mmb29m.g935aucu4apj4
ronkim83 said:
Can you advise the procedure? I'm currently permanently locked to AT&T network and would like to use a carrier (SK Telecom - Korea).
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Go to http://www.cellunlocker.net/ and get an unlock code for your phone. I unlocked my tmobile S7 edge this way right out of the gate worked just fine.
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Go to http://www.cellunlocker.net/ and get an unlock code for your phone. I unlocked my tmobile S7 edge this way right out of the gate worked just fine.
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I am confused. Can I not flash the phone with t mob firmware without unlocking? I thought this was just a software restriction and would have been removed by flashing a new firmware.
s7fnatic said:
I am confused. Can I not flash the phone with t mob firmware without unlocking? I thought this was just a software restriction and would have been removed by flashing a new firmware.
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Flashing the phones firmware will not carrier unlock the device. That is tied to the IMEI. It will boot up the Tmobile software, but it still will only work on AT&T network.
Also in order to unlock the device from AT&T they will most likely bill you for the remaining value of the device as soon as you request an unlock code. You cannot take a phone from one carrier to another unless it is fully paid off.
I have an Unlocked AT&T S7 and I can put in a T-Mobile sim and it works. So why Flash T-Mobile onto an AT&T phone if its Unlocked??? My AT&T S7 is Paid for in Full.
My question is, if you do flash T-Mobile firmware on AT&T phone will you get OTA updates off of T-Mobile, like when Nougat comes out????? Also would you still have wifi calling and get all the LTE bands of a T-Mobile phone????
tailgunner9 said:
I have an Unlocked AT&T S7 and I can put in a T-Mobile sim and it works. So why Flash T-Mobile onto an AT&T phone if its Unlocked??? My AT&T S7 is Paid for in Full.
My question is, if you do flash T-Mobile firmware on AT&T phone will you get OTA updates off of T-Mobile, like when Nougat comes out????? Also would you still have wifi calling and get all the LTE bands of a T-Mobile phone????
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Yes. All the edge models have identical hardware. Their only differentiating factor is the firmware they run. I flashed the unlocked firmware onto my AT&T model and now get updates directly from Samsung. If you flash the T-mobile firmware on the AT&T device, all features will work and updates will come from T-Mobile. Same would work if you flash the AT&T firmware onto a T-Mobile variant. Or Verizon to Sprint, Sprint to AT&T, etc.
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Yes. All the edge models have identical hardware. Their only differentiating factor is the firmware they run. I flashed the unlocked firmware onto my AT&T model and now get updates directly from Samsung. If you flash the T-mobile firmware on the AT&T device, all features will work and updates will come from T-Mobile. Same would work if you flash the AT&T firmware onto a T-Mobile variant. Or Verizon to Sprint, Sprint to AT&T, etc.
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So you are saying this about S7 Edge, does this work the same for the AT&T S7 SM-G930A? Mine is not the Factory Unlocked model but I got the unlock code from AT&T. I thought the firmware came from the carrier and not Samsung on updates on a carrier branded phone???
So if I flash T-Mobile into my AT&T S7, I can also flash it back to AT&T firmware should I go back to AT&T???
Think you are talking about flashing firmware on your that is original for the Factory Unlocked version, think its SM-G930F
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So you are saying this about S7 Edge, does this work the same for the AT&T S7 SM-G930A? Mine is not the Factory Unlocked model but I got the unlock code from AT&T. I thought the firmware came from the carrier and not Samsung on updates on a carrier branded phone???
So if I flash T-Mobile into my AT&T S7, I can also flash it back to AT&T firmware should I go back to AT&T???
Think you are talking about flashing firmware on your that is original for the Factory Unlocked version, think its SM-G930F
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Well people on the S7 edge have flashed the tmo firmware on their AT&T models. Updates come from carrier on branded phones. So if you have an AT&T phone and flash another carriers firmware, it would only be branded by the physical logo on the back. It's like buying a Windows PC and installing Linux. The updates would come from Linux, not Windows, and vice versa. You could always go back to the AT&T firmware, just make sure that both firmwares you flash are on the same bootloader version.
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Well people on the S7 edge have flashed the tmo firmware on their AT&T models. Updates come from carrier on branded phones. So if you have an AT&T phone and flash another carriers firmware, it would only be branded by the physical logo on the back. It's like buying a Windows PC and installing Linux. The updates would come from Linux, not Windows, and vice versa. You could always go back to the AT&T firmware, just make sure that both firmwares you flash are on the same bootloader version.
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But I have always read that OTA updates come from Carrier not from Samsung. Thanks for the info. Maybe AT&T will be out with Nougat by Spring after S8 are out for sale.
tailgunner9 said:
But I have always read that OTA updates come from Carrier not from Samsung. Thanks for the info. Maybe AT&T will be out with Nougat by Spring after S8 are out for sale.
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Updates do come from the carrier. However, if you flash a different carriers firmware you will start getting updates from the new carrier.
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ShrekOpher said:
Flashing the phones firmware will not carrier unlock the device. That is tied to the IMEI. It will boot up the Tmobile software, but it still will only work on AT&T network.
Also in order to unlock the device from AT&T they will most likely bill you for the remaining value of the device as soon as you request an unlock code. You cannot take a phone from one carrier to another unless it is fully paid off.
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You can pay a 3rd party service to unlock it on contract or not I have done it several times. (I use UnlockUnit for all my devices contract or not get code in like 15min)
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Hi,
I can get a Freedom Mobile S8+ here in Toronto, Canada.
Would I be able to root it does anyone know?
KedarWolf said:
Hi,
I can get a Freedom Mobile S8+ here in Toronto, Canada.
Would I be able to root it does anyone know?
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I'm reading on their website that the handsets are Qualcomm, so no you will not be able to root.
xxxrichievxxx said:
I'm reading on their website that the handsets are Qualcomm, so no you will not be able to root.
Docomo Aquos SH-04F - KitKat 4.4.2
Once you go LTE, you never go back.
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"Once you go LTE, you never go back."
Especially if you're LaTE !! muuuaahaaa
xxxrichievxxx said:
I'm reading on their website that the handsets are Qualcomm, so no you will not be able to root.
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I mean, for now, right? They were working on the Snapdragon and last week even managed to get root access.
KedarWolf said:
Hi,
I can get a Freedom Mobile S8+ here in Toronto, Canada.
Would I be able to root it does anyone know?
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I have a freedom s8 and currently there is no root but you can expect a root within the next few weeks. But since the bootloader cannot be unlocked, you cant flash any roms or anything. I would suggest getting an exynos s8 (wifi calling dosent seem to be coming anyways)
All Canadian S8 are SD can't be rooted, Rogers freedom bell MTS Telus XAC etc... all falls under SM-950W or SM-955W. Someone is working on the US version. so soon we can.