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HTC Evo or Samsung Epic?

Im going to be eligible for an upgrade in October and I know others are waiting on theirs. Id like to know if you are going to upgrade, what are you planning to move to and why. Here is descriptions of both phones.
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HTC 4G Evo Review

I can't stand the samsung phones, especially after seeing how they treated the Moment (worse than the Hero was treated by HTC and Sprint). Not to mention I think the Epic looks like crap, and the Evo just looks freakin sexy

Touchwiz is pretty damn ugly and it's quite pervasive in the Galaxy S operating system. Then again, there will likely be custom roms and lots of support for the Epic since it will be on all major carriers. The screen kicks the EVO's ass and it's allegedly quite responsive, unlike the Moment. I think we need to wait for full reviews of the Epic.

I'm keeping my eye on the Epic too. There were some good points to the Moment but the bad outweighed the good.

They're both too damn big. Who has pockets that large?

cmccracken said:
They're both too damn big. Who has pockets that large?
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Both are intended for purses obviously.

lets hope software updates last longer than 6 months.

ya they are big..a damn holster would like so freakn silly for these phones.. hell the one for my hero with the seidio 3500 extended battery is huge already.lol
I think 3.5 to 3.8 inch would be my range as far as screens go.. any bigger and to me its like a mini tablet.lol
but like all will skip samsung because of one reason. they never have any good extended batteries.. unlike htc... where they are plenty... so might get a evo ( maybe ) around dec.. who knows.. still love my hero...to even think bout it.. I mean look at the dream..lol they got froyo.. the hero will still get support for a awhile..so why switch..when that money can go to something else.. like food,lol

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They're both too damn big. Who has pockets that large?
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the Evo will fit nicely in my back pocket. Hell, it'll fit nicely in my front pocket of any pair of my jeans. And it'll rarely be in my pocket anyway, since it sits on my seat in my car when I'm driving, and it'd sit on my desk while I'm at work, just the way my Hero does now

But the hero fits in my watch pocket also the epic is supposed to have a faster gpu. And I love my hero, but I like the idea of a keyboard for gaming.
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im like the epic better but like what has been said ill wait for reveiws and see what people say on here and see if samsung will fix any problems that might happen like with the evo

I plan on waiting for the dual cores next year anyways, not eligible for upgrade may.
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Both phones are nice and I think it comes down to three main factors imo:
1. Will Samsung Epic be rootable, and if so, will Dev support be equal to the Evo;
2. Do you prefer a physical keyboard; and
3. Do you prefer Sense UI over the Epic's UI
The thing that sucks (well, actually good) is that technology is always advancing and new devices are being released every few months and each release tries to out-do the last.
Personally, I'm going to say Samsung Epic since I am on a Hero and have problems using the keyboard. I'd like to give a physical keyboard a try for a few months.

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Both phones are nice and I think it comes down to three main factors imo:
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1. Will Samsung Epic be rootable, and if so, will Dev support be equal to the Evo;
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If its essentially the same as the other Galaxy S line up the yes easily rootable. The Dev Support should stretch across the lineup too.
2. Do you prefer a physical keyboard; and
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I have no specific preference but they are nice
3. Do you prefer Sense UI over the Epic's UI
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Neither! I want AOSP Froyo on it.
The thing that sucks (well, actually good) is that technology is always advancing and new devices are being released every few months and each release tries to out-do the last.
Personally, I'm going to say Samsung Epic since I am on a Hero and have problems using the keyboard. I'd like to give a physical keyboard a try for a few months.
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They just need to announce a damn release date.

spiritcrusher33 said:
ya they are big..a damn holster would like so freakn silly for these phones.. hell the one for my hero with the seidio 3500 extended battery is huge already.lol
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I have the seidio 3500 extended battery also. What holster are you using?!?!? I can't find anyone that fits it.

Im due for an update in october as well, I'm goin for the epic!
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Hard to say. This is how I see it.
Epic: Best hardware, good physical size.
Evo: Full support of xda.
Top-notch hardware vs. top-notch modding community, it's a very hard decision (for me, at least).

I'm leaning towards the Epic. What keeps me on HTC phones is the support of this community. If that is going to carry over to the Epic, there is no real reason to stay with the Evo. HTC has poor support for their phones which has been proven by their lack of porting Froyo to the Hero. Clearly it is doable. Additionally, if the Epic crosses carriers, we will see a lot of great minds working on the same phone.

Ive read that the actual processing power on the galaxy s is quite better than the snapdragon processors, so if that's your thing...
Plus the pervasiveness of this phone might lead to a lot of work getting done in the xda community.

For Those who Wants LG G2X

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http://androidcommunity.com/lg-g2x-having-lcd-screen-bleeding-issues-quality-control-20110420/
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Review from engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/20/t-mobile-g2x-review/
While most of the hardware in the G2x hits the spot, we're a little underwhelmed with the display. The 4-inch WVGA (800 x 480) IPS panel looks good on paper but misses the mark when compared to the competition. Sure, the colors are rich and the viewing angles are wide, but the LCD washes out more than expected in direct sunlight and suffers from a significant amount of backlight leaking out from the edges of the screen, resulting in visible "stains" on solid, dark-colored content.
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nbhnohome said:
Light bleeding like crazy
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-g2x-having-lcd-screen-bleeding-issues-quality-control-20110420/
Review from engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/20/t-mobile-g2x-review/
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Oh crapp, that's nasty dude! I just ordered mines.. darn.

Well it seems alot of people love the device.
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Ill know tomorrow. Woot!
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It's getting rave reviews, the only complaints I have read are the light leak and the Euro version comes with a hdmi cord and the us version doesn't. Other than those two complaints this phone seems to be a winner.

Oh damn, I'm still up in the air between this one and the SGSII. Looks like Sammy's gonna win in the display dept. This is pretty disappointing to see; especially since we know LG makes the screens for the iphones. SMH.

Don't see much of an upgrade from my vibrant. Now if it had a 4. 3" screen, I would run and get one today I hope we get phone with a screen that big soon.
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People should really wait this out. The Vibrant is more than good enough for now, why rush and get the newest flawed product.

I've had 3 phones in the past 2 months, lost a mt4g over the weekend, got a gs4g on Sat, returned it today got the g2x and other than missing the optical mouse on the mt4g, for what's out there currently this phone is by far my favorite....but really how come phones are now lacking camera hw buttons and notification LEDs, that has been irking me all week, and I would take a vibrant over a gs4g because of the internal storage

im trying to wait for the galaxy 2 but i doubt i will be able to wait and find my self getting the g2x

Played around with it today at the downtown Seattle TMO store, and the screen was a major letdown for me. I went wanting to upgrade. The kicker was when I asked if I got the upgrade they said I had 3 months before my 1 year for discount to upgrade. Grrr. Wonder if the HTC Sensation will be out by then, bigger screen, faster processor, etc.

IronWolve said:
Played around with it today at the downtown Seattle TMO store, and the screen was a major letdown for me. I went wanting to upgrade. The kicker was when I asked if I got the upgrade they said I had 3 months before my 1 year for discount to upgrade. Grrr. Wonder if the HTC Sensation will be out by then, bigger screen, faster processor, etc.
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Yah, you're right. I'm deciding b/t SGSII and HTC Sensation. HTC seems to be a better choice.
Anybody knows how GPS works on HTC products ???

nbhnohome said:
Yah, you're right. I'm deciding b/t SGSII and HTC Sensation. HTC seems to be a better choice.
Anybody knows how GPS works on HTC products ???
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usually, perfect.
I wouldn't count on saying that SGSII would have a not-working GPS..
i'm sure Samsung learned from their mistake..
i mean... the GPS bug was found out like a month after Vibrant's were sold...
millions sold.
They can't re-call millions of sold products...

i got one today. while i would love to get a galaxy s II im thoroughly frustrated with samsung.

Mannymal said:
People should really wait this out. The Vibrant is more than good enough for now, why rush and get the newest flawed product.
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Indeed. At times it seems some people buy phones here just for the sake of having a "new" one. Why change when you've a device that works just like you want to? Better specs aint everything, looks can be deceiving.

Abu-7abash said:
Indeed. At times it seems some people buy phones here just for the sake of having a "new" one. Why change when you've a device that works just like you want to? Better specs aint everything, looks can be deceiving.
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You're right but everytime I compare this with my Olde Cliq, I piss off .Except for the not too good speed, everything works nicely and its GPS just simply blow Vibrant one out of the water (locks within 5 seconds no matter what roms I put on it Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread)

So the LG G2X runs the Tegra Duel Core, the HTC Sensation will be running their Scorpion duel core chip, and the Galaxy S2 will be running what processor?
I remember seeing something about the HTC duel core not being as good as the Tegra 2's? how about the Galaxy S2 duel core?
I know its a lot to ask, just wondering if anyone remembers seeing that HTC chip was not as good as the Tegra or what the Samsung will have.
I think it will be good to compare this as it seems like these are the 3 phones many of us are trying to decide on/wait for

Got my g2x on Tuesday, and rooted it last night, the screen is a let down my is minor compared to some overall love it, someone just finished recovery and cm7 or gingerbread STABLE real soon.. the only Sammy products I will buy here forward our their TVs
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i'm waiting for the evo 3d, moving to sprint

its no comparison SG2 all the way!!! but if i cant have that then my runner up will be the sensation

Nexus Prime Pics Leaked & Boy Its UGLY!!!

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In my opinion the phone is hideous, was thinking to upgrade but no way in hell am i doing that....
i got a feeling Samsung designed this too look like sh*t, to sell the galaxys2 and save customers for their new stock coming soon. This looks like some cheap Chinese knockoff. But the sad fact is they look a lot better...
what do you guys think.
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NEW pictures released look a lot better still not feeling the soft key icons as much though....

looks like a galaxy s2, what did everyone expect?
the nexus s should have been a pretty obvious clue

It looks like a phone
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kuljit55 said:
In my opinion the phone is hideous, was thinking to upgrade but no way in hell am i doing that....
i got a feeling Samsung designed this too look like sh*t, to sell the galaxys2 and save customers for their new stock coming soon. This looks like some cheap Chinese knockoff. But the sad fact is they look a lot better...
what do you guys think.
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The rear shot is actually the Nexus S. The front shot is Verizon's Prime. In conclusion, you are jumping to conclusions too quickly.

ICS in general is ugly..
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Hideous is right. Both the phone and the software.
Waiting to see what Cyanogenmod supported devices HTC bring out in the next year.

Kenorn said:
The rear shot is actually the Nexus S. The front shot is Verizon's Prime. In conclusion, you are jumping to conclusions too quickly.
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True, for me it's an obvious fake.
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I think its nice

isnt the prime going to be built by motorola now that google aquired motorola mobile?
i would love to see another HTC nexus though.. now that would be a phone worth upgrading to.. htc has never disappointed.. even the cheap plastic samsung-styled HTC phones are solid (ie htc magic)

I like my nexus one and nexus s... but that nexus one isn't gonna win a beauty contest anytime soon...
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grimey01 said:
isnt the prime going to be built by motorola now that google aquired motorola mobile?
i would love to see another HTC nexus though.. now that would be a phone worth upgrading to.. htc has never disappointed.. even the cheap plastic samsung-styled HTC phones are solid (ie htc magic)
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little late for that buddy......lol

grimey01 said:
isnt the prime going to be built by motorola now that google aquired motorola mobile?
i would love to see another HTC nexus though.. now that would be a phone worth upgrading to.. htc has never disappointed.. even the cheap plastic samsung-styled HTC phones are solid (ie htc magic)
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The prime was too deep into development when google bought Motorola for them to just abandon the project. If there is going to be another nexus after the prime then chances are it will be done by Motorola.
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isnt the prime going to be built by motorola now that google aquired motorola mobile?
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According to Google (whether or not you want to believe it is another story), the Nexus phones will still be a contest for developers. Just because Google owns Motorola doesn't (supposedly) guarantee that Motorola will be the exclusive Nexus manufacturer.
I really hope this is true, because I am sure this is a major thing manufacturers push for. They may not sell as well as some of the other phones out there, but they get a ton of clout and the developers are very quick to stand behind them. Anything that challenges companies to try to one-up each other is a great thing in my book. That is what drives innovation.

Pictures don't always do an item justice
The N1 is no looker when seeing it online--which i am reminded of everytime I download MIUI from their Rom page
But, in my hand, it looks and feels great-------

i always thought the N1 looked better in photos, in hand the frame is too big and the colour is not to my liking, the images show a more darker black/brown

IMO, the supposed design look hideous but i like the software though, colorful, eye catching definitely except for the damn home menu and back buttons. WHERE IS THE F*ING SEARCH BUTTON! >.< i know it's weird but i am one of a few people who uses it a alot. on my n1 the search buttons serves as quick autorotate on/off and search function as well. Another biggest thing, doesnt that phone in the photo looks 4:3 rather than 16:9 to you guys?

I no longer think Nexus is ugly. The new picture shows aluminium type of edge around the phone. The first leak of the pics prob preliminary. I likes the new pics by modoco.
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you're right, but it will win any usefulness-contest among any Androidphone with its trackball

Engadget says its on the samsung website if you simply search for it. No specs yet. Just 2 and a half more hours till the specs are released >

The phone and the software are beautiful. What ever the op is smoking i Dont want any of it. I would snag that phone in a minute If it wasnt a verizon exculsive. I hate verizon with a Passion.
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From G2 to One S... my take

I thought I'd cross post this coming from a G2 to a One S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622439

Gracias sir.

Cheers for that, great read! Its between the Sensation XE, GSII and Galaxy Note for my next phone in the summer!
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Cheers for that, great read! Its between the Sensation XE, GSII and Galaxy Note for my next phone in the summer!
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I'm very interested in seeing how much the Note will cost on T-Mobile.

xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Cheers for that, great read! Its between the Sensation XE, GSII and Galaxy Note for my next phone in the summer!
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why not the one s? i'm seriously considering moving/upgrading to the one s because i'm tired of people saying that my phone is "thick" and "heavy", so the one s is perfect for me

The thing about the one s, in the UK its REALLY expensive because it just came out, and doesn't have a micro sd slot... And id want a good battery, I've heard wonders about the note and the razr maxx!
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Didn't they say a black one is coming? Don't really like the bluish tinted one wish it came in white like the one x
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not persuaded from this review, they are mostly problems that can be solved by working some minutes on the phone...
IMO it's (one of) the best android phones out now. One X and tegra 3 doesn't appeal me... Samsung and LG are the worst brands imo...
Have a look at my optimus one... You may even notice some, just a bit, dust under the screen... this after one month...
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
The thing about the one s, in the UK its REALLY expensive because it just came out, and doesn't have a micro sd slot... And id want a good battery, I've heard wonders about the note and the razr maxx!
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ditto here, i think i might wait too, so the price will fall a bit. and btw, you do realize that internal memory is faster than external, hence a better user experience ?

ChristianFS1 said:
ditto here, i think i might wait too, so the price will fall a bit. and btw, you do realize that internal memory is faster than external, hence a better user experience ?
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Yeah truee but i'll use most of it, i cant even manage my 16gb microsd AND internal space! I still want it though, price is honestly the only thing atm
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I think I might get a t989
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I'm also considering the HTC One S... but I will not be purchasing the grey/blue accent version. I've heard that the One S might be released in black/red accents later, likely related to the chipping that occurred to the international version with this MAO treatment. If anyone has any real news regarding the release of this version on US T-Mobile, please post here or start a thread... I follow TmoNews.com, but haven't read anything definitive yet.

Great read; only thing I missed was your reaction to the speed boost vs G2? What is your impression?

Thank you for mentioning that HTC should not name their web browser "Internet". Pet peeve of mine! There is an AOKP setting (I think it's AOKP?) that lets you use the volume up/down key when you have the IME keyboard out to move back/forward over the text input line. When that comes to your One S it should help ease backing up a few characters since you now lack a trackpad.
Your review speaks similarly to what mine would, I'm sure. Some of the reasons you speak of (and obviously, no QWERTY) are the reasons I am not buying one of these new flagship phones. IF there is a QWERTY and it completely blows or is locked down then I'll be considering moving to a non-qwerty phone, but let's be realistic here. New hardware and thinness do not matter. Those aren't new features, they're expected with new devices and aren't something that will add sway to me purchasing the device.
I think the SIII is pretty hideous, personally, and while I have a Samsung TV, I'm not the biggest fan of their mobile device build quality. That said, some of the features in the SIII are pretty badass. I dunno if I'd enable that feature that creepily detects my eyes, but I do dig the wireless charging amongst other things.
People are so blown away by the One S/X when they don't seem to realize that all new [flagship] devices coming out this year will have similar hardware.. so if that's the case, then why not wait a few months and see what else is announced? I guess I'm just old fashioned and tend to wait to see what the user reaction is to new devices, as well as the user/dev community, etc. Because those things matter!
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Thank you for mentioning that HTC should not name their web browser "Internet". Pet peeve of mine! There is an AOKP setting (I think it's AOKP?) that lets you use the volume up/down key when you have the IME keyboard out to move back/forward over the text input line. When that comes to your One S it should help ease backing up a few characters since you now lack a trackpad.
Your review speaks similarly to what mine would, I'm sure. Some of the reasons you speak of (and obviously, no QWERTY) are the reasons I am not buying one of these new flagship phones. IF there is a QWERTY and it completely blows or is locked down then I'll be considering moving to a non-qwerty phone, but let's be realistic here. New hardware and thinness do not matter. Those aren't new features, they're expected with new devices and aren't something that will add sway to me purchasing the device.
I think the SIII is pretty hideous, personally, and while I have a Samsung TV, I'm not the biggest fan of their mobile device build quality. That said, some of the features in the SIII are pretty badass. I dunno if I'd enable that feature that creepily detects my eyes, but I do dig the wireless charging amongst other things.
People are so blown away by the One S/X when they don't seem to realize that all new [flagship] devices coming out this year will have similar hardware.. so if that's the case, then why not wait a few months and see what else is announced? I guess I'm just old fashioned and tend to wait to see what the user reaction is to new devices, as well as the user/dev community, etc. Because those things matter!
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Couldn't have said it better.... for now I'll stick with my G2.
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Couldn't have said it better.... for now I'll stick with my G2.
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me too.
This thread made me realize that the one series are built in batteries.
Its so nice when your phone is dying and it takes only a few second to change the battery and go.
In school, I hate people saying "oh, dont play with my iphone too much, I need battery for the ride home".

HTC did it again?

I think HTC messed up the fans again.
I hope these are only rumors and this phone will be a mid range phone...
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-M4-arriving-in-June-with-metal-alloy-chassis_id42128

This is either obviously fake or a mid-range device... it dosent even have the dual speakers (boom sound) and it has the older 3 buttons like the OneX.

avatar_ro said:
I think HTC messed up the fans again.
I hope these are only rumors and this phone will be a mid range phone...
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-M4-arriving-in-June-with-metal-alloy-chassis_id42128
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M4 has always been rumoured to be a mid-ranged phone dude!

M4 will be the One S replacement has a mid range phone.
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thank you guys... i got angry for a bit
moderator please close the thread. thank you

avatar_ro said:
thank you guys... i got angry for a bit
moderator please close the thread. thank you
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Why should you be angry.. If they release another flagship in 6 months, good for us. Sell the current one and buy new one. Simple
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Actually, that looks like a low-end phone for the MVNO's or emerging markets.
This looks like a mid-range phone.
HTC had three devices released at the same time last year (One X, One S, One V) so to make their 2013 numbers it only makes sense for them to continue adding new phones to their range.

Well they already said that we gonna get only 1 high range. And it is fiiine.

That M4 render majors it look cheaper than any of the competition. I wouldn't buy it.
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Definitely a low end phone, they shouldn't be worrying about another flagship phone when I am still waiting for my developer version.

Doesn't that look like the HTC First?

I really hope they don't mess it up by launching a One+ in 6 months.
This is their main problem (ok maybe 2nd after marketing), if you buy an HTC flagship phone you know that after half a year you no longer have the best of HTC (sensation XE, XL, Onex+, Onexl...)
Samsung & Apple don't have this problem.
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The phone in the pictures is the HTC E1 (603e) which is a lower mid-range Chinese market phone:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/15/htc-e1-custom-china/

Looks like a mini dna, probably we wont see it around here

eskargoz said:
I really hope they don't mess it up by launching a One+ in 6 months.
This is their main problem (ok maybe 2nd after marketing), if you buy an HTC flagship phone you know that after half a year you no longer have the best of HTC (sensation XE, XL, Onex+, Onexl...)
Samsung & Apple don't have this problem.
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You want HTC to stop innovating or stop producing faster phones even when they can, due to improved binning, just so that you can always have the latest phone?
That sir, is ridiculous.
Perhaps they should make it two years before releasing new models as that is now a typical contract length and European warranty length?
Or three years, because let's face it, who likes spending money?

BenPope said:
You want HTC to stop innovating or stop producing faster phones even when they can, due to improved binning, just so that you can always have the latest phone?
That sir, is ridiculous.
Perhaps they should make it two years before releasing new models as that is now a typical contract length and European warranty length?
Or three years, because let's face it, who likes spending money?
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Exactly all these people complaining about companies releasing new phones. If you can't afford don't buy, it's not that companies have to release phones according to some ones buying habits. There are always people shopping for new phones in different seasons, so companies have to release new phones to be relevant. The htc one 6 months down the line will be an outdated phone. I can easily see an updated version of One with Snapdragon 800 may be.

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You want HTC to stop innovating or stop producing faster phones even when they can, due to improved binning, just so that you can always have the latest phone?
That sir, is ridiculous.
Perhaps they should make it two years before releasing new models as that is now a typical contract length and European warranty length?
Or three years, because let's face it, who likes spending money?
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I don't think we can call the Sensation XE and One XL innovative phones and it's not only a matter of personal preference, I don't think I am the only one in this case.
Last year HTC admitted they launched too many phones and people got lost in all the different versions.
In the end it's a problem of strategy; Apple and Samsung have a simple offer (at least with the flagship devices), which is easier to advertise and apparently easier to sell.

Mystery solved.
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Taiwanese smartphone maker HTC will begin promoting its new customizable E1 phone in China, our sister newspaper Commercial Times reports.
Chinese customers will have the option to customize their phone through HTC's website with a variety of accessories including its case and the color of its phone charger, and also amend its features such as the phone's RAM and camera resolution.
HTC China estimates that the E1 will have the highest performance value among the company's smartphone range, with its price ranging from 1,700 to 1,899 yuan (US$275-$310).
The Taoyuan-based company has boosted its market share in mainland China over the past year, but its higher range models still lag behind rivals Apple and Samsung.
The E1 will reportedly sport a 1.15 GHz dual-core processor, 4.3-inch WVGA screen, dual SIM cards and 2100mAh battery. Custom options will include the phones built-in storage (8GB or 16GB), main camera (five or eight megapixels) and one of the six body colors plus patterns.