I have used Kit Kat for a month now and have tested Retail and O2 versions and therefore there shouldn't be any problems with a wrong flash and in both versions i have experienced micro stuttering everywhere ranging from Notification bar to going through home screens, I haven't experienced this with jelly bean as it runs more stable. I haven't noticed a difference in Network connection and drops or anything as i never experienced in Kit Kat too. Like i said it runs a bit more stable so I would flash back Jelly bean and wait for 4.4.3 or 4.5 as it should be more Stable.
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I have used Kit Kat for a month now and have tested Retail and O2 versions and therefore there shouldn't be any problems with a wrong flash and in both versions i have experienced micro stuttering everywhere ranging from Notification bar to going through home screens, I haven't experienced this with jelly bean as it runs more stable. I haven't noticed a difference in Network connection and drops or anything as i never experienced in Kit Kat too. Like i said it runs a bit more stable so I would flash back Jelly bean and wait for 4.4.3 or 4.5 as it should be more Stable.
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You are so right! I want to go back to 4.3! Motorola made you to install the update and this is so annoying! I hope 4.4.3 will change the perfomance a bit or else the other way is to return to 4.3
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diecast said:
You are so right! I want to go back to 4.3! Motorola made you to install the update and this is so annoying! I hope 4.4.3 will change the perfomance a bit or else the other way is to return to 4.3
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Yep, i unlocked my boot loader and tried the kitkat versions but nothing helps so i have returned to jelly bean and i am so much happier! I also quickly rooted and uninstalled the "Motorola OTA" so that i dont get pushed the update and then i unrooted the device and flashed normal boot logo so everything seems normal! The only place you can check is my bootloader which has Code 3 or something so i am techincally totally stock right now! On top of that i uninstalled all the random google apps such as google + so my phone feels a tad bit snappier!
I really don't notice any issues with stuttering or poor performance with 4.4 on my moto go, but whatever floats your boat.
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I have used Kit Kat for a month now and have tested Retail and O2 versions and therefore there shouldn't be any problems with a wrong flash and in both versions i have experienced micro stuttering everywhere ranging from Notification bar to going through home screens, I haven't experienced this with jelly bean as it runs more stable. I haven't noticed a difference in Network connection and drops or anything as i never experienced in Kit Kat too. Like i said it runs a bit more stable so I would flash back Jelly bean and wait for 4.4.3 or 4.5 as it should be more Stable.
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Why are you using Android in first place if you're so picky?
So random.....
liveroy said:
Why are you using Android in first place if you're so picky?
So random.....
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None of your business.
Guys try the art runtime and I guarantee you will never go back to jelly bean again.
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None of your business.
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Why so mad brah?!?Simple, logical questions drive you out of your creep?
Forget it, really none of my business or anyone else's as it seems....
liveroy said:
Why so mad brah?!?Simple, logical questions drive you out of your creep?
Forget it, really none of my business or anyone else's as it seems....
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That isn't a logical question as everyone has their own taste. Im picky which is why i use an android, i can un install all the bloat ware apps that come with the device and i can modify to however i want the phone to be like which is what I can't do with IOS and WP8. I have owned all three and have ended up selling IOS and WP8 as customisation is limited. Sorry if I came across rude as i had an exam today so I was a bit lol.
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Guys try the art runtime and I guarantee you will never go back to jelly bean again.
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Nah, i uninstall everything i dont use so there is hardly anything running in the background and therefore the CPU can do everything just as fast with Dalvik.
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Nah, i uninstall everything i dont use so there is hardly anything running in the background and therefore the CPU can do everything just as fast with Dalvik.
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No.
I went back to 4.3 too, for some reasons:
1) Display is more saturated
2) Performance is better, 18000+ in Antutu (I´ll try performance governor later) against 17300 in 4.4.2
3) No pink tint in photos when using led flash
4) No exposure bug in front facing camera
5) Real world performance is way better, there´s no annoying loading while opening apps like settings, play music, gallery, many oher apps open faster
6) Signal strenght is milles better
Mine is XT 1032 Retail Brazil
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I went back to 4.3 too, for some reasons:
1) Display is more saturated
2) Performance is better, 18000+ in Antutu (I´ll try performance governor later) against 17300 in 4.4.2
3) No pink tint in photos when using led flash
4) No exposure bug in front facing camera
5) Real world performance is way better, there´s no annoying loading while opening apps like settings, play music, gallery, many oher apps open faster
6) Signal strenght is milles better
Mine is XT 1032 Retail Brazil
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Also with 4.4.2 i had a problem with front facing camera where there would be these weird imperfections in the viewfinder but in the actual images it isnt there e.g. Flickering
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Yep, i unlocked my boot loader and tried the kitkat versions but nothing helps so i have returned to jelly bean and i am so much happier! I also quickly rooted and uninstalled the "Motorola OTA" so that i dont get pushed the update and then i unrooted the device and flashed normal boot logo so everything seems normal! The only place you can check is my bootloader which has Code 3 or something so i am techincally totally stock right now! On top of that i uninstalled all the random google apps such as google + so my phone feels a tad bit snappier!
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How are you technically totally stock? Are you one of those peeps that says like, literally and quote unquote all the time? Bootloader unlocked is bootloader unlocked and not stock.
sent from my sm-9005.
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Also with 4.4.2 i had a problem with front facing camera where there would be these weird imperfections in the viewfinder but in the actual images it isnt there e.g. Flickering
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how did you guys go back to 4.3 from kitkat?
i updated my phone as soon as i got it so i dont know what the performance is like on jb on this phone.
im willing to try it if its as easy as flashing a zip or something so i can restore my nandroid backup afterwards
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I went back to 4.3 too, for some reasons:
1) Display is more saturated
2) Performance is better, 18000+ in Antutu (I´ll try performance governor later) against 17300 in 4.4.2
3) No pink tint in photos when using led flash
4) No exposure bug in front facing camera
5) Real world performance is way better, there´s no annoying loading while opening apps like settings, play music, gallery, many oher apps open faster
6) Signal strenght is milles better
Mine is XT 1032 Retail Brazil
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Perfectly right! I want to go back to 4.3 but i find the procedure difficult! And i think that it is risky...
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Perfectly right! I want to go back to 4.3 but i find the procedure difficult! And i think that it is risky...
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I followed this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219
Be careful to delete the correct lines (it´s not difficult), dont double click flashall.bat ( press shift, right click in a empty space ,choose open command window ,type flashall.bat /eu and press enter)
I did this procedure because my download was in a .tar.gz format. Maybe .xml.zip is even easier
Remember to backup everything you need, because your sd card will be erased
Everything went fine for me
If you are in UK, this is easy way to go back to jellybean:
http://www.modaco.com/topic/366786-how-to-flash-to-the-standard-uk-rom/
Am I alone when I say that none of the bugs people are talking here affected me on kitkat? Awkward.
rogeriorp said:
Am I alone when I say that none of the bugs people are talking here affected me on kitkat? Awkward.
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You are not alone. I agree with you.
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Hey guys, since 4.4.2 has arrived.. I think its fair to create a thread where all of us can report whatever bugs exist in 10.5.A.0.230.. So that Sony can see this and fix them.. Or it might help our devs..
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Bugs i found,
1. Wifi gets disabled by itself, a simple reboot solves it though.
2. Small stuttering on the notification bar.
3. RAM leak exists but gets fixed after a reboot(Google's 4.4.2 bug and its fixed in 4.4.3).
4. GPU drivers arent as good as in 4.3..
5. Over time, the fw becomes unstable'ish and shows some lags and apps take time to open.
6. Sometimes calls won't reach the other side and when it does, the caller(us) wont be able to hear anything from the other side.. This happens a lot like once in every 2-3 days..
7. Sometimes after video recording, there is no sound in the video.. Its MUTE..
7. All 4.4.2 Google's bugs..
If u have any other to add, mention me and i'll add em..
Fixes:
Most of the bugs are solved automatically after a simple reboot, if u face lags do wipe cache and dalvik cache and u will see the difference..
Google Play Services battery drain bug can be solved by disabling the Location service.
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Hey guys, since 4.4.2 has arrived.. I think its fair to create a thread where all of us can report whatever bugs exist in 10.5.A.0.230.. So that Sony can see this and fix them.. Or it might help our devs..
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My album, walkman, and movies become old version bro after update to kitkat. An example: In 4.3 my album version is 6.x.x.x, and now in Kitkat my album is 5.x.x.x anyone have same case with me?? :angel: (NB: no update from sonny update application)
can someone post the screenshotys of the new UI and screens.... thanks..
I still can not hear the audio notification via bluetooth, Type whatsapp, viber, sms ... Sony removed this possibility since 4.3. It worked fine until the 4.2 version 67
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Don't know if it's a problem from my ftf but my Z is laggy as hell... keyboard, animation, menù, everyting lag. I have already re-flashed all but with no results..
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Don't know if it's a problem from my ftf but my Z is laggy as hell... keyboard, animation, menù, everyting lag. I have already re-flashed all but with no results..
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It seems to be normal that 4.4 is a bit laggy, try out the following: "Settings--> Developer Options --> Force-GPU Rendering", after rebooting it should be a bit better :good:
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It seems to be normal that 4.4 is a bit laggy, try out the following: "Settings--> Developer Options --> Force-GPU Rendering", after rebooting it should be a bit better :good:
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Tested this solution yesterday. in some parts of the UI the phone is better but in other absolutly no, for example when I open conversations...
greasegraphic said:
Tested this solution yesterday. in some parts of the UI the phone is better but in other absolutly no, for example when I open conversations...
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Try enabing Force 4x MSAA or something.. It removes some lags too..
Huge battery drain from Google Play Services after the upgrade. I'm down to 30% battery after 4 hours. Google Play Services has taken 50% of that.
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avindal said:
Huge battery drain from Google Play Services after the upgrade. I'm down to 30% battery after 4 hours. Google Play Services has taken 50% of that.
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Yeah its really annoying for kitkat to have a huge drain off battery
By the way, does anyone already tried this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
Im still on 4.3 but confirmed info from my friend:
Camera app slower start, typical is 7sec but max was 14-17sec, and overall laggy camera menu.
Stock keyboard slower start, and laggy text select option.
Overall speed of menu is worst.
No audio notification via bluetooth
Battery "sucker" system apps.
4.4 stupid SD card limitation(but its google stupid idea)
Worst performance with GTA: SA
PS enabling Force-GPU Rendering or {omg} 4x MSAA is worst thing that you can do, because it make older apps lag or even FC.
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Yeah its really annoying for kitkat to have a huge drain off battery
By the way, does anyone already tried this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
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Not this but a xposed module, it works as it should.
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Same performance in games (Real Racing 3), slightly better battery usage, almost same RAM usage, no lag in notification bar/area, for now superstable and smooth.
Saw someone posted that there's no the letter " L " to tap while pressing the 4.4.2 3 times,it just turns black screen,and few more press to reach the Android KitKat logo.
Looks like .227 and .230 is the same,Sony devs didn't fix anything.
We need to fix ourself...
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Ben Ling said:
Saw someone posted that there's no the letter " L " to tap while pressing the 4.4.2 3 times,it just turns black screen,and few more press to reach the Android KitKat logo.
Looks like .227 and .230 is the same,Sony devs didn't fix anything.
We need to fix ourself...
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It was expected,seems like they didn't put much effort into this,just to give us "something".I knew it they are not delaying the release just to perfect the firmware,but oh well,going back to my favorite AOSP.It was the same case back then,when they released 4.3 journalists version,then they gave us the very same firmware as official,despite the bugs that everyone was reporting.We got what we deserve I guess.
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It was expected,seems like they didn't put much effort into this,just to give us "something".I knew it they are not delaying the release just to perfect the firmware,but oh well,going back to my favorite AOSP.It was the same case back then,when they released 4.3 journalists version,then they gave us the very same firmware as official,despite the bugs that everyone was reporting.We got what we deserve I guess.
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We deserve what we paid for. We didn't pay for some laggy ****.
Took 6 Months to release and we got a half baked sluggish rom. Reminds me on Sony's ICS Update.
It's a Nexus
I got lots of dropouts when listening to music via bluetooth using MDR-1RBT in 4.4.2 KitKat
I'm downgrading to 4.3 again now....
ravdo said:
I got lots of dropouts when listening to music via bluetooth using MDR-1RBT in 4.4.2 KitKat
I'm downgrading to 4.3 again now....
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What do you mean with "dropouts"?
probably our beloved lags, but in sound :]
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What do you mean with "dropouts"?
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The music's skipping a lot
Downgraded to 4.3, and the problem's gone :silly:
I just updated to lollipop using the official leaked ota for XT1068 and to my surprise it was full of stutters everywhere.
I did a complete wipe including the internal storage and reinstalled all my apps again. But seems like animations have taken a serious hit wid the newer update.
Steps to reproduce stutters or lags
1.Swipe down from status bar
Click on users icon... And click more settings... Enjoy the lag...
2. Open app drawer (newer google now launcher)
Click on home button
Enjoy microstutters...
3. Go to settings
Click on any title..
The animation that seems to come from lower part of screen towards center also lags for the first time...
Material design is said to be accompanied by fluidity which i failed to find on a 1gb ram quad core cpu phone with a dedicated a305gpu..
One of the major hits was that switching data on now requires at least 4 touches...yes i know aosp has it like this but...Moto being an oem could have made it simpler... For someone like me who toggles data several times a day, this is hectic.
One thing again moto failed to do was to remove the drop down quick setting when a secured lock screen is used. How the hell it is secure when any one can swtich off the data and swtich on air plane mode or even use my phone as a wifi hotspot..
These are no personal modifications i require but these should been a must. for an oem like moto who favours stock android..its also necessary to put some easy things rather just making aosp as it is coz aosp is no where perfect.
People who say its a low end phone and m happy with whatever i m served on a low priced phone, plz stay away.
No i am not free enough to revert to kitkat as i have a busy life currently and i cant spend my every day reinstalling apps n setting them up ...
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Few more bugs
# wifi battery drain is present wid build 5.0.2. Battery is draining even when all the wifi toggles are off (including scanning while sleep) .. Have seen this on my nexus 5 too.... U can thank google for this and motorola for not patching it..
# net is switched on and working but it is not accompanied by E/H icon near the signal icon ... This bug is random and just showed up on my device...
Tried the 3 things you mentioned, and yes, I get it as well.
I thought it was only me, phew!
Report the same to official Moto support forums for MFN ,, maybe for these, moto is still not going global release ,, may be they would notice and try to improve
[email protected] said:
Report the same to official Moto support forums for MFN ,, maybe for these, moto is still not going global release ,, may be they would notice and try to improve
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We're not soak testers though, just installed from zip.
I can confirm all three present ,,, but overall system response and especially ram management is improved ,,, I think these are aosp issues,
Not sure if bug or not, but suddenly the status bar has stopped changing colour according to the background. For example, first when I opened XDA on Chrome, the status bar changed to Orange. Same for MX Player. Now, it doesn't. Can anyone confirm or deny?
NOPE ,, checked it 3-4 times,, status bar color is still changing in xda chrome to orange (go to devices page of moto g ), and working in mx too
and the first lag pointed above (user profile ) is now much smoother now
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NOPE ,, checked it 3-4 times,, status bar color is still changing in xda chrome to orange (go to devices page of moto g ), and working in mx too
and the first lag pointed above (user profile ) is now much smoother now
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Well, I changed back to "Merge apps and tabs" option and it's working in Chrome. Can't get it to work in MX Player. Which colour are you using for MX Player?
funny it was working with pink) ) selected but now its not working . In vlc its working and playstore is hard freezing sometimes ,, had to reboot it
I don't know if kk+xposed is better in performance than this stock lollipop. People that gave a try to this new build answer me please.
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One of the major hits was that switching data on now requires at least 4 touches...yes i know aosp has it like this but...Moto being an oem could have made it simpler... For someone like me who toggles data several times a day, this is hectic.
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Do you have root? If yes, feel free to try my app/widget Toggle Data 5.0 (with Locale/Tasker support). The first post includes a fully functional, xda-exclusive free version.
I read on another thread about how battery life is worse when using Lollipop compared to Kit Kat any comment?
The key combination in recovery mode doesn't work, the factory reset from settings works, is this a bug?
Wow, these lags are not present in the Brazil Soak Test version. Glad I didn't rush after the Indian 5.0.2 Soak test.
@cygery Your data toggle app is #1 nothing has ever worked for toggling data before, now I've set it up with tasker perfectly, you da real MVP
i received the soak test for 5.0.2 and i have no problems with stutters, even doing the things you stated above. (XT1064)
Received 5.0.2 from soak test.
Was first upgraded to 5.0 then 9mb update to 5.0.1 and then 39mb update to 5.0.2
No lags whatsoever!
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I am using the 5.0.2 22.21.28 final update on my XT1063 and all the things that you said is real, the lag is AWFUL, the animation lag, when you pull down the notification bar the animation just not play well, it seems to stutter, its really annoying, i wish i could back to KK, but i cannot downgrade anymore because i updated via OTA, people are really excited for lollipop in this forum (because, well, 90% of the threads in general section is about lollipop), I feel sad for them.
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Lynse said:
I am using the 5.0.2 22.21.28 final update on my XT1063 and all the things that you said is real, the lag is AWFUL, the animation lag, when you pull down the notification bar the animation just not play well, it seems to stutter, its really annoying, i wish i could back to KK, but i cannot downgrade anymore because i updated via OTA, people are really excited for lollipop in this forum (because, well, 90% of the threads in general section is about lollipop), I feel sad for them.
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Woww, that's no good
Thanks for a headup, I'll hold off the update for now.
votinh said:
Woww, that's no good
Thanks for a headup, I'll hold off the update for now.
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well, you can update if animations stuttering at some points after you start to do multitasking don't bother you, the system is pretty usable, but these animations lag is a killer for me, because material design its supposed to be more fluid than holo, and its not (at least on this device), but there's no lag for open apps and so on.
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I have just received new OTA update 1.85.401.5 for European version of M9 Plus.
Please
Can you share with us a copy of your new rom ? Please
What do you mean?
Can you do a zip file to install in recovery ? like tlbade has maded ?
@zazabichi so it's not 5.1, right?
With my s-off, i've just converted to main version 1.08 Europe region 401, all went fine. Now updating to 1.61, then hopefully to 1.85 Then i'll dump system image and look at creating an update for CleanSlate ROM
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@zazabichi so it's not 5.1, right?
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Nope
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Nope
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I had the stock 1.61.401.7 unlocked through HTCdev, rooted & installed exposed. I reverted to the stock back up I made (before root/exposed) but the OTA install is not working. I also reverted to stock recovery (only found 1.61.401.6). The attached image is what I get in the stock recovery after I get the red exclamation image. Any idea what am I doing wrong? do I have to re-lock the bootloader first or is it because of the stock recover being for 1.61.401.6 instead of 1.61.401.7?
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I had the stock 1.61.401.7 unlocked through HTCdev, rooted & installed exposed. I reverted to the stock back up I made (before root/exposed) but the OTA install is not working. I also reverted to stock recovery (only found 1.61.401.6). The attached image is what I get in the stock recovery after I get the red exclamation image. Any idea what am I doing wrong? do I have to re-lock the bootloader first or is it because of the stock recover being for 1.61.401.6 instead of 1.61.401.7?
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I think it will be the difference in recovery.
Unfortunately I don't have that recovery extracted. Maybe someone caught the fota URLs andbacked up the OTA zip, that should contain the recovery, but I don't have them, sorry
Is there an improvement of the performance after the OTA? I'm interested in buying this phone to upgrade my M8. I read some reviews says that M9+ it cannot handle high frame rate games very well. even on switching to other apps on multi tasking.
Are this issues were improved after the latest OTA?
Thanks!
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Is there an improvement of the performance after the OTA? I'm interested in buying this phone to upgrade my M8. I read some reviews says that M9+ it cannot handle high frame rate games very well. even on switching to other apps on multi tasking.
Are this issues were improved after the latest OTA?
Thanks!
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Better stay with the M8 if you're in for gaming. The OTAs didn't change much related to that, and I don't think it's possible. 2K screen and the GPU of iPhone 5S is not meant to be paired for high demand gaming, and no OTA will change that IMHO. For casual gaming still okay.
Antutu seems to score lower. But the ui multitasking seems to be improved overall quite a bit.
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Antutu seems to score lower. But the ui multitasking seems to be improved overall quite a bit.
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tbalden said:
Better stay with the M8 if you're in for gaming. The OTAs didn't change much related to that, and I don't think it's possible. 2K screen and the GPU of iPhone 5S is not meant to be paired for high demand gaming, and no OTA will change that IMHO. For casual gaming still okay.
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Thanks for the info. Maybe I'm still upgrading to M9+ since I'm not into gaming. What I really like on HTC devices is the boomsound. I am tempted for the QHD and fingerprint sensor for M9+. For those features, still pretty good to upgrade to M9+.
What really confused me to buy is because of the news that HTC Aero will be coming soon. It would not feel great when you buy a new one then suddenly, another one is released.
Anyone else get this update around the world yet?
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Anyone else get this update around the world yet?
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Got it in the UK. S-off superCID
OTA : Taiwanese Update
New update 1.84.709.7
battery improvement,not Android 5.1. :crying:
tbalden said:
Better stay with the M8 if you're in for gaming. The OTAs didn't change much related to that, and I don't think it's possible. 2K screen and the GPU of iPhone 5S is not meant to be paired for high demand gaming, and no OTA will change that IMHO. For casual gaming still okay.
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games lag because it isn powerful enough for 2k res..... so how bout this?.... Using App Settings (xposed module) we can decrease the resolution
Since i dont hwve any high end games at present... if some1 else tries this do tell if this works
T3snake said:
games lag because it isn powerful enough for 2k res..... so how bout this?.... Using App Settings (xposed module) we can decrease the resolution
Since i dont hwve any high end games at present... if some1 else tries this do tell if this works
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I only see DPI settings in the feature list of this mod, and that won't change the screen resolution of the game itself. Is it possible to change the screen resolution for games?
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I only see DPI settings in the feature list of this mod, and that won't change the screen resolution of the game itself. Is it possible to change the screen resolution for games?
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there is a option called screen dp where u can select a different resolution
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View attachment 3428130 New update 1.84.709.7
battery improvement,not Android 5.1. :crying:
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It is strange that the Taiwan update mentions Battery improvements while the Euro update has System improvements, one would think they would be the same kind of upgrades, but they are different & also different in size.
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I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?
At worst you will softbrick it... I doubt it would hardbrick, but most of the threads where people have tried to downgrade have not gone well but they eventually get it working. Moto's don't like to be downgraded, the big problem is the partition table changes from Lollipop to Marshmallow and it won't go back. Although I don't know about this device specifically, but several older Moto's would brick if you downgraded then took an OTA later due to the mismatch of bootload and gpt partition table versions.
I would try to find solutions to your problems with MM rather than downgrade... I don't have any issues with any of the problems you are stating with echo, camera launch (mine is ready to take pictures in less than 2 seconds from either lock screen or icon), and Facebook works fine. Guess I am a little puzzled, but then again I am on 6.0.0 on the Pure.
akeflo said:
I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?
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It is possible if you have a TWRP backup of lollipop. I have done it before and it does work.
!Iamdeath! said:
It is possible if you have a TWRP backup of lollipop. I have done it before and it does work.
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It's possible even without a backup too.
Spasticdroid said:
It's possible even without a backup too.
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It is possible, but as mentioned by @acejavelin, it could cause issues later. The better option is to try and work out the current issues. Since the OP obviously has TWRP installed, my recommendation for stock ROM is to possibly look at apps that may be the culprits. Other options can include custom kernels.
Thank you so much everyone! But then, how do i do it? Is there anyone who has done it before and could help me? I don't have a lollipop backup on my TWRP btw..
acejavelin said:
At worst you will softbrick it... I doubt it would hardbrick, but most of the threads where people have tried to downgrade have not gone well but they eventually get it working. Moto's don't like to be downgraded, the big problem is the partition table changes from Lollipop to Marshmallow and it won't go back. Although I don't know about this device specifically, but several older Moto's would brick if you downgraded then took an OTA later due to the mismatch of bootload and gpt partition table versions.
I would try to find solutions to your problems with MM rather than downgrade... I don't have any issues with any of the problems you are stating with echo, camera launch (mine is ready to take pictures in less than 2 seconds from either lock screen or icon), and Facebook works fine. Guess I am a little puzzled, but then again I am on 6.0.0 on the Pure.
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On stock ROM everything works but lags, but for example on cm13 videos on facebook won't playback, switching to front facing camera takes maybe 10 seconds and the echo is there when speaking on the phone. What ROM are you using?
akeflo said:
On stock ROM everything works but lags, but for example on cm13 videos on facebook won't playback, switching to front facing camera takes maybe 10 seconds and the echo is there when speaking on the phone. What ROM are you using?
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Stock, and I have no "lag" to speak of, but my point of references lately are the Moto G3, Nexus 4, and Lumia 640 LTE so by these standard the Pure is a Ferrari by comparison.
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I'm using stock with no lag. I get the occasional stutter every now and then but that has been the case with every Android I have owned. Have you gone to developer options and changed the Windows animation scale and Transition animation scale to 0.5? This might help.
acejavelin said:
Stock, and I have no "lag" to speak of, but my point of references lately are the Moto G3, Nexus 4, and Lumia 640 LTE so by these standard the Pure is a Ferrari by comparison.
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Haha i see! Well my comparison is with a Nexus 5x and an LG G2 and i hardly can't tell a difference between my moto and the LG G2 with a cyanogen based ROM. The Nexus is clearly the smoothest of all three.
aybarrap1 said:
I'm using stock with no lag. I get the occasional stutter every now and then but that has been the case with every Android I have owned. Have you gone to developer options and changed the Windows animation scale and Transition animation scale to 0.5? This might help.
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Yes every android has some lag now and then but my Nexus 5X ran much smoother than the Moto X. It lags when i open the app drawer for instance which is the most simple task ever. It really pisses me off. I will try changing animation speed, thank you.
akeflo said:
I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?
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I flashed Android Lollipop many times but wifi doesn't work so I am not able to log in into Google account so I flash back marshmallow. I especially face serious lag when scrolling through YouTube in marshmallow.
[email protected] said:
I flashed Android Lollipop many times but wifi doesn't work so I am not able to log in into Google account so I flash back marshmallow. I especially face serious lag when scrolling through YouTube in marshmallow.
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Are you clean flashing? I've flashed several different roms and none of them have lagged for me the slightest bit.
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Hi there
Lets talk about our experience after the MM update.
Me first...the system is smooth...
I think there s battery improvement(little)....maybe I feel wrong.
Three bugs...1.my approximity sensor was not always working properly...after the hard factory reset,I ve not seen that bug any more....2.google messenger does not have the new message notification on its icon....3.chrome address bar is sometimes not reachable(when some page is oper,I cannot click on the address to edit it,I have to make a new tab
Update
Another bug... wile incoming calls,sometimes the phone cannot take data from contacts....it starts with number,after some seconds,it shows the name of the contact
Bug on ZE550ML/Z008
Hi,
I did the update to MM 2 days ago.
First by just updating: very smooth, battery not really improved, even with doze, as my phone had already an excellent battery life in LL (2 days "normal" use) BUT:crying: got 2 freeze, no way to power off except by holding down power button at least 10s.
Then, I did a factory reset from MM and re-installed all my app with titanium backup.
Still smooth BUT 1 freeze again after some hours.:crying::crying:
I already got those freeze when testing the beta. So still not solve
Back to LL for me as it was extraordinary stable for me.
Thanks for feedback guys. I hope you report all of these to Asus to let them the chance to fix those bugs.
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The addition of Facebook app let alone the Facebook messenger to a devices System which had/keeps having horrible battery life reviews is crazy. System apps can launch themselves, they will be never "patched" (less downloaded bytes) and God forbid, if a major security issue happens in that application, it will have very bad consequences as users _hate_ updating things.
I am waiting for first meaningful, suitable for daily use Cyanogenmod releases with the MM kernel and I am off to Cyanogenmod. If I buy another device, it will be stock Google Android, will never touch anything which has a BYTE changed from stock Android.
Returned back to stock .184 from AICP using shakalaca's pre-rooted image, then updated to
.194 using full firmware zip that pushed into internal memory, then updated again to MM .134 using the same method, and finally did a factory reset; everything works so far for me. Disabled a lot of junks and no problems.
Ilgazc said:
The addition of Facebook app let alone the Facebook messenger to a devices System which had/keeps having horrible battery life reviews is crazy. System apps can launch themselves, they will be never "patched" (less downloaded bytes) and God forbid, if a major security issue happens in that application, it will have very bad consequences as users _hate_ updating things.
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You could disable startup for these apps thanks to Asus' own auto-start feature. Or, if you hate it, you could disable it at anytime. (I disabled Facebook and Instagram app, but leave Messenger enabled because I've some importance over it)
phyniks said:
2.google messenger does not have the new message notification on its icon....
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You need to manually give notification access to Messenger app via Unread counts badge preferences on ZenUI Launcher for the badge to shown properly.
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Thanks krasCGQ,the messenger is now ok
The launcher is still V2
Is there any advantage on updating to V3?(performance,battery,etc)
phyniks said:
Thanks krasCGQ,the messenger is now ok
The launcher is still V2
Is there any advantage on updating to V3?(performance,battery,etc)
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I tested v3 when I was on AICP, but I haven't update the stock launcher yet to v3. I need to do some more testing...
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Very smooth, none of the slowdowns that I used to get on L from RAM management / memory leak issues. Haven't encountered any bug yet except for being unable to factory reset, which always fails when it goes into recovery and tries to erase user data.
The phone seems like a totally new phone , i am amazed by the transformation
timbernot said:
The phone seems like a totally new phone , i am amazed by the transformation
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are you talking about zenfone?!!
My ZE551ML's antutu benchmark runs around 60k score only when running LP, but now on MM:
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phyniks said:
are you talking about zenfone?!!
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expand please ........???
hmmm,i've seen a guy here saying that he did got back to LL from the last MM coz he had some freeze issues,well,i have no idea what the hell u had installed on your phone that coused that,for sure it has to be an app that cause that issue,not the OS itself,many do talk and have no idea of what they r talking about,first of all after u install a new version,make a factory reset,after that,stop doing a recovery from that titan whatever is name and install the apps 1 by 1 and find out the 1 that causes that issue,don't blame the OS coz u don't know what are you doing or using,yes it runs very smooth and faster,i dunno why some do say that they don't see improvements on battery,did u thought that all you have installed on your phone is causing that ? to many apps using internet (facebook,instagram,buzz,games etc) ? all the internet use make battery run down very fast in case u didn't know,another yes,the new firmware comes with lot of bull****s app,like facebook,messenger,that crappy useless manger that claims to kill apps for more memmory (actually it is just a theory claim,not actual thing that it does,i can give an explanation to that),iread and i think a few more that i never used and never will,but yes,u can very easy deactivate them,which i always dowith all i hate,which i really think they should be optinal apps to download from google play,not to come by force preinstalled,i do use the phone pretty much,and just normal on internet,those parts do make battery go down pretty fast,but in standby...2 days easy,in 8 hours (night) standby it only droped the battery down 3%,i doubt it was the case in LL
Feels fine, despite possible OS problems (Android draws most of battery). Anyway, a better experinece.
BTW - Just seen that this is a 32bit MM 6.0.1. How can the system utilize full 4GB of RAM?
Any sensor is working for me. I did a clean installation, flashing last LL firmware. Than I put MM firmware on internal storage.
MM is working fine and smooth. But no one sensor is working.
Another app
eudigorodrigo said:
Any sensor is working for me. I did a clean installation, flashing last LL firmware. Than I put MM firmware on internal storage.
MM is working fine and smooth. But no one sensor is working.
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You wouldn't happen to be from Brazil would you?
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Ilgazc said:
The addition of Facebook app let alone the Facebook messenger to a devices System which had/keeps having horrible battery life reviews is crazy. System apps can launch themselves, they will be never "patched" (less downloaded bytes) and God forbid, if a major security issue happens in that application, it will have very bad consequences as users _hate_ updating things.
I am waiting for first meaningful, suitable for daily use Cyanogenmod releases with the MM kernel and I am off to Cyanogenmod. If I buy another device, it will be stock Google Android, will never touch anything which has a BYTE changed from stock Android.
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I don't know where you got the idea that a system app wont get updates. Facebook will still get updated through the play store just like any other app.
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tomsag said:
Feels fine, despite possible OS problems (Android draws most of battery). Anyway, a better experinece.
BTW - Just seen that this is a 32bit MM 6.0.1. How can the system utilize full 4GB of RAM?
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i have no idea where u saw that is 32 on ur phone, in mine say 64
appollokillers1 said:
i have no idea where u saw that is 32 on ur phone, in mine say 64
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Screenshot please. You sure you're looking at OS and not hw
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