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Seeing that the UK models will not be getting NFC, has anyone thought of ordering from Korea? Or in general is anyone considering ordering from a Korean seller?
Why would you do that unless your local frequencies are South Korea's CDMA...meaning you'd be in South Korea.
Balthazar B said:
Why would you do that unless your local frequencies are South Korea's CDMA...meaning you'd be in South Korea.
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lol delete this thread haha... Totally forgot to think about whether it was GSM or not xD Thx for the info.
I lived in south korea and i'm korean.
Our country provide WCDMA/CDMA service.
WCDMA Band cairrer are below.
SKTelecom (2100 Mhz)
Korea Telecom (2100 Mhz)
CDMA band carrier is below
LG U+ (1800 Mhz)
But, Our local galaxy s radio band spec is poor then EU galaxy s2.
<< Korea Galaxy S2 Network support >>
Double band UMTS 900/2100
Triple band GSM 900/1800/1900
<< EU Galaxy S2 band Network support>>
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Yeah, Our korean prefer TDMB(TV Service) then multiple band support.
So it will occur H/w problem occur and samsung select some frequencies killed.
The main critical issue is
if you purchased in our SKT galaxy S 2 model (SHW-M250S),
may be you can't receive MMS. because our carrier SKTelecom using
their own MMS format. (SK-MMS)
Most of world using OMA-MMS.
So it will occur many sms, mms problems.
and our service porvider (SKT, KT) they enjoyed add a many many bloat ware.(Service program).
it will occur a tons of system hang and reset problem.
As a result, i recommend that if you purchased galaxy s2,
wait a your country's carrier galaxy s2( like captivate or fascinate) nor buy the EU galaxy s2.
So, I can't recommend our korea's galaxy s2.
I'll buy a EU Galaxy s2.
Has anyone considered, instead, picking up the North Korean version?
Pulverizer said:
I lived in south korea and i'm korean.
Our country provide WCDMA/CDMA service.
WCDMA Band cairrer are below.
SKTelecom (2100 Mhz)
Korea Telecom (2100 Mhz)
CDMA band carrier is below
LG U+ (1800 Mhz)
But, Our local galaxy s radio band spec is poor then EU galaxy s2.
<< Korea Galaxy S2 Network support >>
Double band UMTS 900/2100
Triple band GSM 900/1800/1900
<< EU Galaxy S2 band Network support>>
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Yeah, Our korean prefer TDMB(TV Service) then multiple band support.
So it will occur H/w problem occur and samsung select some frequencies killed.
The main critical issue is
if you purchased in our SKT galaxy S 2 model (SHW-M250S),
may be you can't receive MMS. because our carrier SKTelecom using
their own MMS format. (SK-MMS)
Most of world using OMA-MMS.
So it will occur many sms, mms problems.
and our service porvider (SKT, KT) they enjoyed add a many many bloat ware.(Service program).
it will occur a tons of system hang and reset problem.
As a result, i recommend that if you purchased galaxy s2,
wait a your country's carrier galaxy s2( like captivate or fascinate) nor buy the EU galaxy s2.
So, I can't recommend our korea's galaxy s2.
I'll buy a EU Galaxy s2.
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Yeah I got carried away with the thought that I could get the Korean SGS2 have all the same bands and get the NFC. Didn't think through it all the way and forgot that Korea uses different services.
MustWarnothers said:
Has anyone considered, instead, picking up the North Korean version?
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oh my god..
Our samsung do not provide cellphone to north korea. hehe...
brandenk0 said:
Yeah I got carried away with the thought that I could get the Korean SGS2 have all the same bands and get the NFC. Didn't think through it all the way and forgot that Korea uses different services.
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The clove store galaxy s2 spec page appeard "NFC" service support.
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-16gb
Pulverizer said:
The clove store galaxy s2 spec page appeard "NFC" service support.
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-16gb
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The UK version doesnt seem to have NFC in it. Most of the retailers just take the specs off Samsung's site. Wish it were true tho.
brandenk0 said:
The UK version doesnt seem to have NFC in it. Most of the retailers just take the specs off Samsung's site. Wish it were true tho.
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UK amazon spec page appeard that
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-I9100-Galaxy-Free-Smartphone/dp/tech-data/B004QTBQ2C/ref=de_a_smtd
I think amazon tell the truth.
So you hope thf NFC function in EU or UK galaxy s2.
Hi,
Thank you information about Korean version. I m from Turkey. My Vodafone carrier supports 900 band. So i think i can use it in Turkey. I want to ask question where can i buy it in Korean? is it locked or unlocked.
Thanks
Pulverizer said:
I lived in south korea and i'm korean.
Our country provide WCDMA/CDMA service.
WCDMA Band cairrer are below.
SKTelecom (2100 Mhz)
Korea Telecom (2100 Mhz)
CDMA band carrier is below
LG U+ (1800 Mhz)
But, Our local galaxy s radio band spec is poor then EU galaxy s2.
<< Korea Galaxy S2 Network support >>
Double band UMTS 900/2100
Triple band GSM 900/1800/1900
<< EU Galaxy S2 band Network support>>
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Yeah, Our korean prefer TDMB(TV Service) then multiple band support.
So it will occur H/w problem occur and samsung select some frequencies killed.
The main critical issue is
if you purchased in our SKT galaxy S 2 model (SHW-M250S),
may be you can't receive MMS. because our carrier SKTelecom using
their own MMS format. (SK-MMS)
Most of world using OMA-MMS.
So it will occur many sms, mms problems.
and our service porvider (SKT, KT) they enjoyed add a many many bloat ware.(Service program).
it will occur a tons of system hang and reset problem.
As a result, i recommend that if you purchased galaxy s2,
wait a your country's carrier galaxy s2( like captivate or fascinate) nor buy the EU galaxy s2.
So, I can't recommend our korea's galaxy s2.
I'll buy a EU Galaxy s2.
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Where did you get this information?
According to the specs posted online at several web sites the SK version has support for all of the same bands.
Also, if SK's mms tech was not compatible with other carriers, how would the phone be able to send and recieve mms messages once roaming and relying on another carriers protocols? Can you please post a source of your information, it contradicts everything I've seen online (and common sense when it comes to mms).
The con's you mentioned here aren't much of a problem. Most of the world still uses triband gsm and having a quad band won't do much of good and how many of us really uses mms when we are using emailing or video calling!!
If you see the pro's they is NFC which is gonna be must feature in all smart mobile in future. Next gen samsung mobile is having NFC in all the models. So isn't it cool to have right now than later? well there are lot of apps in android for fm, so having a native fm on mobile is pointless. And DMB is an extra asset too. last but not the least bloatware can be removed in many ways as like rooting
So what do you think guys?
Pulverizer said:
I lived in south korea and i'm korean.
Our country provide WCDMA/CDMA service.
WCDMA Band cairrer are below.
SKTelecom (2100 Mhz)
Korea Telecom (2100 Mhz)
CDMA band carrier is below
LG U+ (1800 Mhz)
But, Our local galaxy s radio band spec is poor then EU galaxy s2.
<< Korea Galaxy S2 Network support >>
Double band UMTS 900/2100
Triple band GSM 900/1800/1900
<< EU Galaxy S2 band Network support>>
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Yeah, Our korean prefer TDMB(TV Service) then multiple band support.
So it will occur H/w problem occur and samsung select some frequencies killed.
The main critical issue is
if you purchased in our SKT galaxy S 2 model (SHW-M250S),
may be you can't receive MMS. because our carrier SKTelecom using
their own MMS format. (SK-MMS)
Most of world using OMA-MMS.
So it will occur many sms, mms problems.
and our service porvider (SKT, KT) they enjoyed add a many many bloat ware.(Service program).
it will occur a tons of system hang and reset problem.
As a result, i recommend that if you purchased galaxy s2,
wait a your country's carrier galaxy s2( like captivate or fascinate) nor buy the EU galaxy s2.
So, I can't recommend our korea's galaxy s2.
I'll buy a EU Galaxy s2.
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marthyaya said:
The con's you mentioned here aren't much of a problem. Most of the world still uses triband gsm and having a quad band won't do much of good and how many of us really uses mms when we are using emailing or video calling!!
If you see the pro's they is NFC which is gonna be must feature in all smart mobile in future. Next gen samsung mobile is having NFC in all the models. So isn't it cool to have right now than later? well there are lot of apps in android for fm, so having a native fm on mobile is pointless. And DMB is an extra asset too. last but not the least bloatware can be removed in many ways as like rooting
So what do you think guys?
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I also think about this model in this way. I think pro's that this unit has are stronger than the con's that "we think" do exist in the mobile. MMS bug is useless as we are using Email and other apps like ChatON, WhatsApp etc. Also there are plenty of FM apps which are capable of streaming online. I don't know about others, this is how I feel.
Even if you feel this software doesn't fit to you, or MMS is really a bug for you, you can anytime change to I9100 firmware at the cost of loosing NFC and DMB (Even after changing I saw that there is a workaround for NFC)
I am currently on StraightTalk service using a t-mobile sim. I am interested in purchasing the LG G2 with my current sim. Before doing so, I wanted to see if anyone has any feedback with using the 4G LTE services with their T-mobile sim on Straighttalk?
Do you have any suggestions on where I can purchase a T-mobile compatible LG G2? I did find one on negri electronics but it did not mention that it was T-mobile compatible (The T-mobile site doesn't have an option to purchase the LG G2 unlocked currently).
I would appreciate any pointers in purchasing this phone unlocked, looks like an awesome phone!!
mithr4ndir said:
I am currently on StraightTalk service using a t-mobile sim. I am interested in purchasing the LG G2 with my current sim. Before doing so, I wanted to see if anyone has any feedback with using the 4G LTE services with their T-mobile sim on Straighttalk?
Do you have any suggestions on where I can purchase a T-mobile compatible LG G2? I did find one on negri electronics but it did not mention that it was T-mobile compatible (The T-mobile site doesn't have an option to purchase the LG G2 unlocked currently).
I would appreciate any pointers in purchasing this phone unlocked, looks like an awesome phone!!
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IIRC the tmobile, att, and international editions are the same hardware wise. I'd double check, but buying the ATT version unlocked is the cheapest way to do it.
mithr4ndir said:
I am currently on StraightTalk service using a t-mobile sim. I am interested in purchasing the LG G2 with my current sim. Before doing so, I wanted to see if anyone has any feedback with using the 4G LTE services with their T-mobile sim on Straighttalk?
Do you have any suggestions on where I can purchase a T-mobile compatible LG G2? I did find one on negri electronics but it did not mention that it was T-mobile compatible (The T-mobile site doesn't have an option to purchase the LG G2 unlocked currently).
I would appreciate any pointers in purchasing this phone unlocked, looks like an awesome phone!!
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I bought mine retail at the AT&T store and they gave me an unlock code over the phone the same day. I then tried my T-mobile SIM card in it and it worked fine (and I got LTE). But I don't know if the AT&T version has the 1700mhz band for T-mobile's non-LTE 4G. I am assuming it does not.
I just got an email notification today that the T-mobile version is available for purchase. You might look into just buying it form T-mobile. I assume they will have it in their store very shortly and that will surely have the 1700mhz band for if you do not live in a refarmed 1900mhz area.
Cheers,
-Collin-
Straight Talk has AT&T LTE now. That's what I am doing when my contract expires in a few months.
Did some more googling
"LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900
WCDMA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
AT&T version (D800) does not support WCDMA 1700 / T-Mobile version (D801) does not support LTE 850"
May or may not be a firmware thing.
Not much mention of the tmobile variant anywhere, everyone has the att version to test. However the tmobile press release did say 1700/2100
Geekybiker said:
Did some more googling
"LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900
WCDMA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
AT&T version (D800) does not support WCDMA 1700 / T-Mobile version (D801) does not support LTE 850"
May or may not be a firmware thing.
Not much mention of the tmobile variant anywhere, everyone has the att version to test. However the tmobile press release did say 1700/2100
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I wonder if the D801 has band 17 for AT&T LTE. That's 700mhz right?
-Collin-
CollinFX45 said:
I wonder if the D801 has band 17 for AT&T LTE. That's 700mhz right?
-Collin-
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The Snapdraon 800 chipset has built in LTE, and Qualcomm made a big fuss about it being "world LTE". On top of that the chipset is supposed to have a configurable radio, so my guess would be each version of the phone should support everything and it would be the firmware that enables or disables different frequencies.
the Snapdragon 800 includes “True 4G LTE World Mode” with LTE FDD, LTE TDD, WCDMA, CDMA1x, EV-DO, TD-SCDMA, and GSM 4G LTE with Carrier Aggregation.
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Although I am no dev and I dont recommend just trying this, it would be interesting if a real developer could look to see if firmware could be cross flashed to enable a different radio band on this phone since it is all the same hardware and the chipset its self supports all of it.
EniGmA1987 said:
The Snapdraon 800 chipset has built in LTE, and Qualcomm made a big fuss about it being "world LTE". On top of that the chipset is supposed to have a configurable radio, so my guess would be each version of the phone should support everything and it would be the firmware that enables or disables different frequencies.
Although I am no dev and I dont recommend just trying this, it would be interesting if a real developer could look to see if firmware could be cross flashed to enable a different radio band on this phone since it is all the same hardware and the chipset its self supports all of it.
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Good information and a good idea. It's good to know that the hardware is there, so maybe if the need arose then a dev would look into this.
-Collin-
I'm looking into buying the international LTE version of the Note III (Model N9005). However, I'm wondering if anyone has gotten it to work on AT&T's LTE network, or if they know if it works with the correct APN settings. Thanks!
Update: should have researched a bit more on XDA before looking ..., so this is more of a info thread now xD
N9005 LTE Bands: 800 / 850 / 900 / 1,800 / 2,100 / 2,600MHz
AT&T's Current LTE Bands: 700 / 1700 / 1900MHz
The best bet for anyone looking for an unlocked bootloader GN3 that works with AT&Ts LTE network is a carrier unlocked T-Mobile variant with a proper radio flashed & APN settings. Otherwise bite the bullet and deal with SafeStrap.
hello all-
has XDA (or any other site) released a hardware list for the regional S5 models with the differences in hardware and especially LTE band support?
It's pretty frustrating in 2014 that Samsung *still* appears to be forcing regional divisions on its customers; especially when the Nexus 5 has already proven that support for many different regional frequency bands can be included in a single device.
There's no reason for it whatsoever except to inflict artificial restrictions on where customers can buy, and where they can use a phone. If I buy a phone outright I expect to be able to use it anywhere. If I travel, why should my original carrier dictate who I can get coverage from?
amrando said:
hello all-
has XDA (or any other site) released a hardware list for the regional S5 models with the differences in hardware and especially LTE band support?
It's pretty frustrating in 2014 that Samsung *still* appears to be forcing regional divisions on its customers; especially when the Nexus 5 has already proven that support for many different regional frequency bands can be included in a single device.
There's no reason for it whatsoever except to inflict artificial restrictions on where customers can buy, and where they can use a phone. If I buy a phone outright I expect to be able to use it anywhere. If I travel, why should my original carrier dictate who I can get coverage from?
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Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.
hemander said:
Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.
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That sounds reasonable and logical, but is that really the case? What were the hardware specs of the S4 GP edition? Wasn't it just an unbranded SGH-1337- which then has no LTE support on T-Mobile or anywhere outside North America?
What I'm looking for is a device that is universal around the world, or around the country (US/Canada/Europe/Asia). I want a phone that (like the the N5) for example won't be kneecapped to HSPA or vanilla GSM when I travel to Europe, Japan, China or Hong Kong; or if I switch carriers within Canada. The N5 claims to support over half a dozen LTE bands, ensuring it can find one supported in essentially every region. Samsung still appears to be trying to artificially partition markets by radio and other features, much like many electronics manufacturers do with artificial trade barriers like region-encoding on DVDs, Blu-Rays or video games.
hemander said:
Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.
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You should really read the specs of the phone before posting wrong information.
S4 GE won't support LTE abroad. LTE will only work on AT&T and T-mobile.
S5 GE is not yet even announced.
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amrando said:
That sounds reasonable and logical, but is that really the case? What were the hardware specs of the S4 GP edition? Wasn't it just an unbranded SGH-1337- which then has no LTE support on T-Mobile or anywhere outside North America?
What I'm looking for is a device that is universal around the world, or around the country (US/Canada/Europe/Asia). I want a phone that (like the the N5) for example won't be kneecapped to HSPA or vanilla GSM when I travel to Europe, Japan, China or Hong Kong; or if I switch carriers within Canada. The N5 claims to support over half a dozen LTE bands, ensuring it can find one supported in essentially every region. Samsung still appears to be trying to artificially partition markets by radio and other features, much like many electronics manufacturers do with artificial trade barriers like region-encoding on DVDs, Blu-Rays or video games.
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There is no such phone.
N5 of North American edition doesn't work on LTE in Europe. Neither N5 of European edition works on LTE in the US.
NA and EU LTE bands are different.
Ugh
I'm not going to get any carrier renewal benefit, so I'm just going to have to pay full freight for this phone. So since I'm paying full price, I might as well get the best phone. I want a 32GB version (have the 32gb s4), that does LTE in NA. I'd rather not get an AT&T phone (locked bootloader crap that has forced me to get repairs on my own dime on my phone so I don't get a locked version from the mothership).
Sounds like the GP version is best, then I can slap it on At&T network, any other ideas? The Rogers S4s seems to have so many issues with ROM upgrades and such... So painful!
Samsung SM-G900F for Europe
Samsung SM-G900I for Asia
Samsung SM-G900K/G900L/G900S for Korea
Samsung SM-G900M for Vodafone
Samsung SM-G900A for AT&T
Samsung SM-G900T for T-Mobile
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
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NK-SOFT said:
Samsung SM-G900F for Europe
Samsung SM-G900I for Asia
Samsung SM-G900K/G900L/G900S for Korea
Samsung SM-G900M for Vodafone
Samsung SM-G900A for AT&T
Samsung SM-G900T for T-Mobile
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
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No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?
arronov said:
No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?
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I think it very similer to sm-g900f
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sorry to revive this, but i want to clarify.
if i buy the 900f, european version, will i get LTE data in canada on the Rogers network? i believe rogers uses the same bands as At&T...
i been seeing different things posted on the internet which has me very confused....
it seems like the supported LTE bands are similar between the european version and the at&t version..with the exception of two bands...
any expert can chime in on this please? thanks..
kl25 said:
sorry to revive this, but i want to clarify.
if i buy the 900f, european version, will i get LTE data in canada on the Rogers network?
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It would have been better if you started a new thread.
To answer your question, the 900F shares most of the LTE bands that Rogers uses. So assuming that your 900F is provisioned for Rogers LTE.. yes you will get Rogers LTE data. The 900F does not support Rogers LTE bands B4/17 (or 3G B4), but they are not much used yet, so you shouldn't incur any gaps in coverage.
In the future you may miss B17 more as it is new and uncongested spectrum that just rolled out in Vancouver, Calgary and Toronto. And being a low frequency is particularly good at penetrating into buildings. But for the moment, you'll be good.
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What about Samsung GALAXY S5 4G mobile dual sim customized version G9008W, will it work with the European 3G networks?
My SM-G9008W works in th US on T-mobile 3G network perfectly. But no LTE.
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maoaichiyu said:
My SM-G9008W works in th US on T-mobile 3G network perfectly. But no LTE.
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My G9008W work perfectly in France with LTE with band 1800 and 2600
But it seem that it has no B20 (800Mhz), but i am not sure ...
It work also in 3G (900 and 2100) and 2G, of course
Just ont think: unlike the Galaxy S4 Duo, it is not dual active, only one sim in communication at a time ...
Samsung Galaxy SM-G900F
arronov said:
No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?
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I have Samsung S5 G900F and i am using it in pakistan with Warid LTE Sim but i did not seen auto connect menu for LTE where as i am able to use LTE perfectly with hidden Service Mode. any body can guide me how i can get aut connect Menu for LTE without Rooting my phone.
Thanks
Hi all, I'm wondering if I may trouble you with a quick question.
I recently bought a Galaxy S5 (Galaxy S5 G900F) in the hopes to have it future proof as I move to Canada next year and would like to have a solid phone for about two - three years. I'm based in Ireland at the moment and wondering can the phone be used in Canada without issue?
I was looking at a phone company (Koodo) who offer great rates and once I inputted my IMEI it stated my phone wouldn't work on their network.
Surely the S5 would work on any network throughout the globe? Last year my Note 3 worked perfectly in America and it was an international edition also.
Is this a hardware issue (radios) or software (were a simple flash of a different rom could fix)?
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
gbyrne2011 said:
Surely the S5 would work on any network throughout the globe?
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Okay, let me ask you this question. If the S5 should work around the world.. why does Samsung have a dozen S5 variants?
Figured it out yet? Ironically the hardware is capable of supporting all GSM and LTE bands world wide. But Samsung endeavors to sell their phones for higher prices in more affluent countries. And carriers don't want to make it easy for you to jump ship and sign your phone up to another network. So they have artificial restrictions in the firmware and other measures e.g. region locking, SIM locks, to limit what you can do. They have to allow enough compatibility that you could usually roam when traveling. But not complete compatibility or you might buy a cheaper S5 from another country. Or change carriers willy nilly.
Yup, great system.
And so it is for your phone. It will work most of the time in Canada. But it isn't 100% compatible and you may find that it can't operate on the necessary bands in fringe areas or for niche carriers.
Most of the bands are the same between the S5 900F (yours) and the S5 900W8 (Canada)
The differences, I believe are:
2G: same for both
3G: Most bands are the same. But you have B8(900) in place of Canadian band B4(1700 aka AWS)
4G: Most bands are the same. But you have B5(850), B20(800) instead of Canadian bands B4(1700 aka AWS), B17(700)
In the case of Fido, their site says:
Fido said:
Things to Know
Your device must be compatible with the Fido network, which uses GSM, UMTS, HSPA and HSPA+ at 850 MHz and 1900 MHz and LTE at 2100 MHz and 2600 MHz. If you are unsure of how to check the frequencies your device supports, try the manufacturer's official website and search for the specifications for your particular phone/smartphone model;
If your device is currently locked, it needs to be unlocked by the carrier you bought it from;
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It appears to me that your phone supports all of the Fido bands. And most, but not all of the bands on other Canadian carriers. I don't believe that your phone will work at all on niche carriers Wind or Mobilicity.
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fffft said:
Okay, let me ask you this question. If the S5 should work around the world.. why does Samsung have a dozen S5 variants?
Figured it out yet? Ironically the hardware is capable of supporting all GSM and LTE bands world wide. But Samsung endeavors to sell their phones for higher prices in more affluent countries. And carriers don't want to make it easy for you to jump ship and sign your phone up to another network. So they have artificial restrictions in the firmware and other measures e.g. region locking, SIM locks, to limit what you can do. They have to allow enough compatibility that you could usually roam when traveling. But not complete compatibility or you might buy a cheaper S5 from another country. Or change carriers willy nilly.
Yup, great system.
And so it is for your phone. It will work most of the time in Canada. But it isn't 100% compatible and you may find that it can't operate on the necessary bands in fringe areas or for niche carriers.
Most of the bands are the same between the S5 900F (yours) and the S5 900W8 (Canada)
The differences, I believe are:
2G: same for both
3G: Most bands are the same. But you have B8(900) in place of Canadian band B4(1700 aka AWS)
4G: Most bands are the same. But you have B5(850), B20(800) instead of Canadian bands B4(1700 aka AWS), B17(700)
In the case of Fido, their site says:
It appears to me that your phone supports all of the Fido bands. And most, but not all of the bands on other Canadian carriers. I don't believe that your phone will work at all on niche carriers Wind or Mobilicity.
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Thank you very much for your reply. I figured it would be something to do with the radio.. Will check the bands for the network Koodoo, if it falls in ok and I can find a firmware to flash which hopefully should do the trick. Hell I might even just sell before I go, make it easier.
Cheers
gbyrne2011 said:
Will check the bands for the network Koodoo
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Koodo is a secondary brand of Telus.
They use 3G 850 CLR/1900 PCS
And 4G /LTE 1700/2100 (and possibly 700 in the future)
You are missing their 1700 LTE band, sometimes referred to as AWS. So you will have to find out how extensively they use that band and whether it is a sole frequency in any areas.
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fffft said:
Koodo is a secondary brand of Telus.
They use 3G 850 CLR/1900 PCS
And 4G /LTE 1700/2100 (and possibly 700 in the future)
You are missing their 1700 LTE band, sometimes referred to as AWS. So you will have to find out how extensively they use that band and whether it is a sole frequency in any areas.
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Thanks very much for all your help fffft, it's much appreciated.