Forgive me if there are any posts about this already, but I didn't find any when I searched. I am trying to find out if I can flash a ROM over the stock ROM slot in SafeStrap. The FAQ says it's not recommended because you can't ODIN back to MF3, but I though that was fixed? I only ask because I have a few rather large apps and I've run out of room. Correct me if I'm wrong, but flashing over stock would allow me more space rather than having two ~4gb partitions. If I flash over stock, wouldn't I have ~8gb free? If I'm getting anything confused please correct me.
With that said, what is the best ROM to flash over stock? Currently I am using graviton in ROM slot 1, but I'm getting somewhat tired of it.
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brendon.recce said:
Forgive me if there are any posts about this already, but I didn't find any when I searched. I am trying to find out if I can flash a ROM over the stock ROM slot in SafeStrap. The FAQ says it's not recommended because you can't ODIN back to MF3, but I though that was fixed? I only ask because I have a few rather large apps and I've run out of room. Correct me if I'm wrong, but flashing over stock would allow me more space rather than having two ~4gb partitions. If I flash over stock, wouldn't I have ~8gb free? If I'm getting anything confused please correct me.
With that said, what is the best ROM to flash over stock? Currently I am using graviton in ROM slot 1, but I'm getting somewhat tired of it.
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I'm using a google play edition 4.2.2. I flashed over stock and it's working fine. I never even made a rom slot. Just put it over stock. You can odin back to mf3 now, that is available now but wasn't at first.
Can someone help me take my S4 back to 4.3? I got the OTA update for 4.4 yesterday morning and have had nothing but problems. Terrible battery life (40% down in 3 hours with little to no use) WiFi wont turn on thanks to this piece of junk Knox software. So before I dump Samsung completely for a Moto X or Nexus, can someone help me downgrade from 4.4 back to 4.3 where I had no problems?
Were you totally stock before the OTA? If you still have warranty left, I would bring it in to a Sprint store and *****.
If not, you can try one of 2 things. 1) flash the NAE tar file using odin to see if that fixes your issues or 2) flash the MK2 tar file to bring you back to 4.3
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Were you totally stock before the OTA? If you still have warranty left, I would bring it in to a Sprint store and *****.
If not, you can try one of 2 things. 1) flash the NAE tar file using odin to see if that fixes your issues or 2) flash the MK2 tar file to bring you back to 4.3
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I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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You're correct with not being able to go back to mk2 4.3 via Odin.
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I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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Yeah, I think you are right. Can't go back to 4.3 once you have the 4.4 bootloader, my bad. I wonder if you should do a factory reset to see if that clears up your issues.
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You're correct with not being able to go back to mk2 4.3 via Odin.
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Is there some other way of downgrading? What about going back to Cyanogen's full release?
Well that sucks that you can't go back to 4.3
I had the same issues when I updated and was kinda pissed at it to but a factory reset and it been running way better ever since and I'm rooted with xposed installed and no complaints
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I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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I believe once KNOX Bootloader has been installed, your stuck with it. No going back.
But honestly, if you root 4.4, your gonna void KNOX.
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I believe once KNOX Bootloader has been installed, your stuck with it. No going back.
But honestly, if you root 4.4, your gonna void KNOX.
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I don't want Knox on my phone at all, it's garbage for me. Are you saying I can't even go Cyanogen at this point?
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I don't want Knox on my phone at all, it's garbage for me. Are you saying I can't even go Cyanogen at this point?
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You can still have all that. KNOX is just the warrantly flag I have KNOX on mine, but I still have rooted and flashed other roms.
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You can still have all that. KNOX is just the warrantly flag I have KNOX on mine, but I still have rooted and flashed other roms.
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Ah OK, I don't care about the warranty, it's out in April anyways... Looks like I need to try Cyanogen again, hopefully it's better this time.
i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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You're saying your bootloader went back to MK2 after this? Didn't think that was possible. I've had nothing but stupid little issues myself after using Odin to flash the phone to NAE. I've done factory resets... Completely wiped the phone in Philz. Tried KToonsez kernel as well and stock NAE just sux! I'll probably just flash Liquid Smooth back on it, was only trying to stick with stock NAE for stability and camera , that phone is my girls and she doesn't have the patience for all the bugs that come with custom Roms lol
Anyways just want to confirm that with you. Thanks
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i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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I don't know if that is possible for those of us rocking triband. Obviously we cannot use the Mk2 modem or rom. In any event, I upgraded to 4.4.2 on my new L720T and regretted it, but now I'v" managed to install twrp and rooted it and the rom settled down after a few days. At first, horrible battery use but now its amazing. My battery reads 75 percent after 14 hours and that's quite good enough. The only issue I still face is the SD card thing, but that only seems to apply third party software as I can move files directly from internal to external memory using the stock files app that comes with android.
i dont know about triband. i dont have one and im not going to pretend im a smart dev because thats also not true.. i HAVE ODIN 4.4.2 THEN turned around and ODIN 4.3 due to something i didnt like...im not sure if it changes the bootloader or not, i dont even check. i have only tried this with mk2 to nae.. when i purchesed my device it came with mk2 so i have never tinkerd with the other bootloaders. if you have something other then mk2 id ask a dev befor doing anything. like i said it works for me as long as i flash the modem FIRST that corrisponds to the build. ( mk2 or nae )...and in some cases if the wifi is borked on nae, iv had to flash the modem again after instalation of the rom.. i cant explain why any of this happens....
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i dont know about triband. i dont have one and im not going to pretend im a smart dev because thats also not true.. i HAVE ODIN 4.4.2 THEN turned around and ODIN 4.3 due to something i didnt like...im not sure if it changes the bootloader or not, i dont even check. i have only tried this with mk2 to nae.. when i purchesed my device it came with mk2 so i have never tinkerd with the other bootloaders. if you have something other then mk2 id ask a dev befor doing anything. like i said it works for me as long as i flash the modem FIRST that corrisponds to the build. ( mk2 or nae )...and in some cases if the wifi is borked on nae, iv had to flash the modem again after instalation of the rom.. i cant explain why any of this happens....
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Lol I know what you mean... Sometimes things just seem to work or they don't.
But that's interesting you can go back to mk2 after being on nae. I figured that was not possible. But if you didn't get any fails in Odin while downgrading that's great. Maybe I'll get ballsy and try this later.
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Is there a stock 4.4 Rom out there I can try, preferably one without Knox? Sprint has recommended that I unroot, that they have a tech bulletin where rooted phones have wifi, and other issues.
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Is there a stock 4.4 Rom out there I can try, preferably one without Knox? Sprint has recommended that I unroot, that they have a tech bulletin where rooted phones have wifi, and other issues.
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You have a link to that bulletin??
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You have a link to that bulletin??
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No that's just what the escalated Tech Support person from Oklahoma City told me.
I also just wiped the cache and did a factory reset and still have the same wifi problem...
I have a question before I up date my verizon galaxy note 3 to kitkat ok we can only use safestrap v3.72 on kitkat and you do note have any rom slots that work so are you just flashing over your stock rom every time you want to flash a new rom like jellybean or whatever or am I miss understanding
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I have a question before I up date my verizon galaxy note 3 to kitkat ok we can only use safestrap v3.72 on kitkat and you do note have any rom slots that work so are you just flashing over your stock rom every time you want to flash a new rom like jellybean or whatever or am I miss understanding
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yes, you flash into the stock slot using safestrap 3.72 following a full wipe. I suggest making a backup first. You can only flash kitkat roms while on 3.72 if you want to go back to JB, it is my understanding you need to odin back.
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dassh said:
yes, you flash into the stock slot using safestrap 3.72 following a full wipe. I suggest making a backup first. You can only flash kitkat roms while on 3.72 if you want to go back to JB, it is my understanding you need to odin back.
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On last thing I forgot to ask after I flash say baja 4.4.2 rom on the stock slot could I can't use any rom slots but could I click the restore button in safestrap and restore a rom to the stock slot that I wiped
shogun3340 said:
On last thing I forgot to ask after I flash say baja 4.4.2 rom on the stock slot could I can't use any rom slots but could I click the restore button in safestrap and restore a rom to the stock slot that I wiped
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Correct, you cannot use any rom slot besides stock right now and yes you can restore a back up to your stock slot.
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updated to kitkat but safestrap not working. It opens and I can do a recovery but then on reboot no screen appears? I tried downloading 2 different sites 2X same problem.
Anyone else have this problem? Any suggestions appreciated
susieq29 said:
updated to kitkat but safestrap not working. It opens and I can do a recovery but then on reboot no screen appears? I tried downloading 2 different sites 2X same problem.
Anyone else have this problem? Any suggestions appreciated
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I think if you are usingSS v3.65 it only supports JB, and once you flash the KK update SS is no longer supported. At least that's the way I understood it.
I don't get the SS menu either.
I am not using 3.65. I have downloaded 3.72 which should work with 4.4
I have an ATT Galaxy S4 and installed safestrap 3.72 no prob…flashed goldeneye no prob, used it for a cpl days then made a backup of it and tried to flash hyperdrive15 as directed by xda thread and when i rebooted just went black for a cpl mins and kept going back to safe strap so i tried to wipe again and install recovery first my golden eye backup(which i later learned was a no no on the stock rom) then my stock rom and getting i keep getting fail…something about unable to mount /system and /systemorig..so i tried advance wipe everything except extsd and also receive fail (unable to mount /system and /systemorig) only success is regular wipe but its not doing me any good. I know im a complete noob and probably did something stupid and also that you senior members hate stupid post here but please I really dont understand what happened....Also I have tried to flash golden eye rom over again and it is just going black and shutting off mid flash...I tried making a new rom slot to see if maybe i could just flash rom on new slot but no luck. I have looked EVERYWHERE and havent found anyone that has had this issue,lol which add to my feling of stupidity...ANY IDEAS???:crying:
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I have an ATT Galaxy S4 and installed safestrap 3.72 no prob…flashed goldeneye no prob, used it for a cpl days then made a backup of it and tried to flash hyperdrive15 as directed by xda thread and when i rebooted just went black for a cpl mins and kept going back to safe strap so i tried to wipe again and install recovery first my golden eye backup(which i later learned was a no no on the stock rom) then my stock rom and getting i keep getting fail…something about unable to mount /system and /systemorig..so i tried advance wipe everything except extsd and also receive fail (unable to mount /system and /systemorig) only success is regular wipe but its not doing me any good. I know im a complete noob and probably did something stupid and also that you senior members hate stupid post here but please I really dont understand what happened....Also I have tried to flash golden eye rom over again and it is just going black and shutting off mid flash...I tried making a new rom slot to see if maybe i could just flash rom on new slot but no luck. I have looked EVERYWHERE and havent found anyone that has had this issue,lol which add to my feling of stupidity...ANY IDEAS???:crying:
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You did not mention your phone firmware but based on your post, your firmware might be NB1 or NC1 since you said that you successfully installed the safestrap 3.72.
You did not mention which version of GE you flashed but I guess that might be GE28 or later. If you did, those roms are based on KitKat (android 4.4.2)
You flashed the hyperdrive15 which is written for jelly beam (android 4.3) based on the rom for the MK2 firmware.
GE rom installation for safestrap did not mention to install the rom in the different slot, so I guess you installed the GE rom in the stock slot.
Hyperdrive15 installation for safestrap mentioned to create/switch slot so you may or may not install the rom in the stock slot.
As far as I know, safestrap 3.72 does not support extra rom slot other than the stock rom slot. It appears that hyperdrive instructions were written for the safestrap 3.71.
May be that was your mistake.
My suggestion been odin the stock rom that corresponding to your firmware. Use tworl root to get rooted.
sway8966 said:
You did not mention your phone firmware but based on your post, your firmware might be NB1 or NC1 since you said that you successfully installed the safestrap 3.72.
You did not mention which version of GE you flashed but I guess that might be GE28 or later. If you did, those roms are based on KitKat (android 4.4.2)
You flashed the hyperdrive15 which is written for jelly beam (android 4.3) based on the rom for the MK2 firmware.
GE rom installation for safestrap did not mention to install the rom in the different slot, so I guess you installed the GE rom in the stock slot.
Hyperdrive15 installation for safestrap mentioned to create/switch slot so you may or may not install the rom in the stock slot.
As far as I know, safestrap 3.72 does not support extra rom slot other than the stock rom slot. It appears that hyperdrive instructions were written for the safestrap 3.71.
May be that was your mistake.
My suggestion been odin the stock rom that corresponding to your firmware. Use tworl root to get rooted.
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Thank you so much SWAY...that what i did and just started back over...you were right i was running nc1 and had GE35....so to explain the reason i used hyperdrive15 was bc i tried 17 and on first boot it stayed on boot animation for 30+mins so i figured something was wrong and shut it down...and i was also very confused bc it says to falsh correct compatibilty pack and the only one i found is for 15...am i wrong? is there one for 17 or do i just use the one for 15?...thank you again
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Thank you so much SWAY...that what i did and just started back over...you were right i was running nc1 and had GE35....so to explain the reason i used hyperdrive15 was bc i tried 17 and on first boot it stayed on boot animation for 30+mins so i figured something was wrong and shut it down...and i was also very confused bc it says to falsh correct compatibilty pack and the only one i found is for 15...am i wrong? is there one for 17 or do i just use the one for 15?...thank you again
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I do not know much about the Hyperdrive since I am a GE user. Also, Hyperdrive 17 mentioned that it would work for the ATT phone but 17 is posted only the Verizon forum.
For the ATT phone with NC1 firmware the steps for flashing the custom rom involves - 1)flash the rom, 2)flash the NC1 kernel module and 3) flash the supersu.
The correct compatibility pack might be referring to the kernel module, I guess. In that case, the pack for 15 might be written for the MK2 kernel module and it might not work with your NC1 firmware.
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I do not know much about the Hyperdrive since I am a GE user. Also, Hyperdrive 17 mentioned that it would work for the ATT phone but 17 is posted only the Verizon forum.
For the ATT phone with NC1 firmware the steps for flashing the custom rom involves - 1)flash the rom, 2)flash the NC1 kernel module and 3) flash the supersu.
The correct compatibility pack might be referring to the kernel module, I guess. In that case, the pack for 15 might be written for the MK2 kernel module and it might not work with your NC1 firmware.
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Is the kernel module the att module that they say to flash to make sure wifi works or is it something else? if so any ideas on where i can find it?
again thank you for taking the time to help me...
omino323 said:
Is the kernel module the att module that they say to flash to make sure wifi works or is it something else? if so any ideas on where i can find it?
again thank you for taking the time to help me...
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Yes. The kernel module is the att module needed to get WiFi working. It can be found after extracting the download from the deadly venom KitKat magic tool thread.
jmjoyas said:
Yes. The kernel module is the att module needed to get WiFi working. It can be found after extracting the download from the deadly venom KitKat magic tool thread.
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thank you so much! okay so just to make completely sure...to flash hyperdrive17 just flash rom, flash module, and flash su?
Again thank you so much!
omino323 said:
thank you so much! okay so just to make completely sure...to flash hyperdrive17 just flash rom, flash module, and flash su?
Again thank you so much!
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Yes. That should work.
Basically I'm wondering if I even need to update my stock ROM or can I just put new 4.4 ROMs in the Safestrap slots and everything should be fine?
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Basically I'm wondering if I even need to update my stock ROM or can I just put new 4.4 ROMs in the Safestrap slots and everything should be fine?
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If you're on MJE you can't run the NC4 roms. But don't take the OTA to do it. Plus your version of safestrap will need to be updated as well.
Read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627
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If you're on MJE you can't run the NC4 roms. But don't take the OTA to do it. Plus your version of safestrap will need to be updated as well.
Read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627
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It's looking like I'm going to flash the NC4 deodexed stock rooted from Beans...
That will then allow to me rom it up in 4.4 land I believe.
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It's looking like I'm going to flash the NC4 deodexed stock rooted from Beans...
That will then allow to me rom it up in 4.4 land I believe.
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You should be fine after that. Be advised that rom slots work but it's advised on most roms to only use the stock rom slot. I thought Hashcode would get those fixed soon but he's getting a new gig and won't be supporting safestrap anymore. Can't be anything but happy for him and be ever so thankful for what he's given us..:good: