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Hey, so I am new to this group! Thanks for existing and being so willing to help!!
So here is my question, I want to root my GS4 but was not able to find good information on how to do so when running Android 4.4.2. I do not want to downgrade to 4.3 so please don't suggest that option. I also (obviously) don't want to brick my phone so a "safe" option would be nice.
My hardware again is a Samsung Galaxy S4 SGH-i337, Android Version 4.4.2, Carrier AT&T, USA, and last three characters of the Baseband version is NB1.
Anyway, any tips, pointers, links or other help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
havydog1994 said:
Hey, so I am new to this group! Thanks for existing and being so willing to help!!
So here is my question, I want to root my GS4 but was not able to find good information on how to do so when running Android 4.4.2. I do not want to downgrade to 4.3 so please don't suggest that option. I also (obviously) don't want to brick my phone so a "safe" option would be nice.
My hardware again is a Samsung Galaxy S4 SGH-i337, Android Version 4.4.2, Carrier AT&T, USA, and last three characters of the Baseband version is NB1.
Anyway, any tips, pointers, links or other help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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At this time there is no way to root 4.4.2 without downgrading to 4.3
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Sigatorade said:
At this time there is no way to root 4.4.2 without downgrading to 4.3
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Too bad! Do you believe that there will be an option eventually? Or is there a "hard wall" that completely prevents it?
havydog1994 said:
Too bad! Do you believe that there will be an option eventually? Or is there a "hard wall" that completely prevents it?
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Maybe. I don't know. I downgraded my phone after I updated to 4.4 because I didn't see much of a difference and I wanted to root and flash ROMs.
havydog1994 said:
Too bad! Do you believe that there will be an option eventually? Or is there a "hard wall" that completely prevents it?
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There's no hard wall, but devs are doing other things like Hash working on kexec and others looking into bootloader exploits and whatnot. May I ask why you don't want to downgrade? The method's been tested and simplified a bit, and you don't need ODIN every time you want to flash a different ROM or mod now.
Downgrading
Sigatorade said:
At this time there is no way to root 4.4.2 without downgrading to 4.3
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At the risk of getting a link to a site I have already visited tonight, how does one go about downgrading? At&t i337 here running NB1. Thanks in advance for your help.
apv507 said:
At the risk of getting a link to a site I have already visited tonight, how does one go about downgrading? At&t i337 here running NB1. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Instructions can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
Sigatorade said:
Instructions can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
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Also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2692825
Sigatorade said:
At this time there is no way to root 4.4.2 without downgrading to 4.3
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kevp75 said:
Also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2692825
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Sigatorade said:
At this time there is no way to root 4.4.2 without downgrading to 4.3
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kevp75 said:
Also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2692825
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Sigatorade said:
Instructions can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
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Thanks for the quick responses! I just got the phone Tuesday (yes I know the s5 comes out tomorrow) and some how I missed that At&t decided to lock boot loaders. I guess at&t is jealous that a group of enthusiast and hobby programmers can produce awesome firmware and doesn't have their trash/bloatware. I'll probably give these a try soon. I think the stock firmware is okay but I do miss my root privileges and aosp/cm/aokp ROMS. Thanks again guys.
apv507 said:
Thanks for the quick responses! I just got the phone Tuesday (yes I know the s5 comes out tomorrow) and some how I missed that At&t decided to lock boot loaders. I guess at&t is jealous that a group of enthusiast and hobby programmers can produce awesome firmware and doesn't have their trash/bloatware. I'll probably give these a try soon. I think the stock firmware is okay but I do miss my root privileges and aosp/cm/aokp ROMS. Thanks again guys.
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theres quite a few really good roms out there... im currwntly on NB1 Stock Rooted... and so far so good. Deadly Venom (in my sig) is sick nasty wicked sweet! One of the best ive run to date
Sent from my Deadly Venom SS 3.0.1 S4 (team: @Venom0642 @ted77usa @rebel1699) ~ 20GB free cloud https://copy.com?r=vtiraF
Sigatorade said:
Maybe. I don't know. I downgraded my phone after I updated to 4.4 because I didn't see much of a difference and I wanted to root and flash ROMs.
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can you give me the link that you used to downgrade your phone i cant find a succesful way to downgrade
utdude33 said:
can you give me the link that you used to downgrade your phone i cant find a succesful way to downgrade
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This is what you're looking for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50667360
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
Good news... the guy who said there is no way to root 4.4.2 with SuperSU is wrong
Use towel root and then install supersu from market but don't open it yet... Now install terminal emulator open and type 'su' and supersu will prompt. Type into terminal emulator without the quotes of course, 'pm disable com.whateverknoxappnameislol' I can't recall the Knox app name off hand. When you finish close term emu and open SuperSU no and update binaries, then it'll prompt to disable Knox and it'll succeed. Reboot, uninstall Towel Root, and enjoy.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=55537351
that method works if you are on ni1. Just use towelroot for anything else
Curious if anyone has had thought to try the update to N900VVRUCNC4 using SuperSU survival mode?
Edit.. see below link for root on NC4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784009
kididaho said:
Curious if anyone has had thought to try the update to N900VVRUCNC4 using SuperSU survival mode?
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There is a few threads in General where people have done it successfully . I don't know if I would be willing to try it , but it has been reported to have worked for at least 2 people so far.
mjh68 said:
There is a few threads in General where people have done it successfully . I don't know if I would be willing to try it , but it has been reported to have worked for at least 2 people so far.
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Thanks. I did a search but didn't find the thread you refer to. Will look again.
Thanks again
Edit found thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52634371&postcount=108
kididaho said:
Thanks. I did a search but didn't find the thread you refer to. Will look again.
Thanks again
Edit found thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52634371&postcount=108
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Sorry, I was on the road or I could have put a link in to save you some time .
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Sorry, I was on the road or I could have put a link in to save you some time .
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People have done it successfully, but the OTA only installs if your system files weren't modified at all. I couldn't the OTA to install - probably due to changes I made in Xposed. I'm going down the leak KK route for now.
pkd600 said:
People have done it successfully, but the OTA only installs if your system files weren't modified at all. I couldn't the OTA to install - probably due to changes I made in Xposed. I'm going down the leak KK route for now.
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OTA failed for me as well. I have removed or frozen just about anything Verizon. Waiting for the MD5 firmware from Sammobile to download so I can try to Odin the file
SuperSu survival mode
Well, I took the leap.. downloaded the md5 file from sammobile and flashed via Odin.
Alas this is not the way to keep root. I no longer have root. And now have all the bloat from Verizon back on the phone.
So much for trying to be a pioneer.
Now where did I put that hammer.....
kididaho said:
Thanks. I did a search but didn't find the thread you refer to. Will look again.
Thanks again
Edit found thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52634371&postcount=108
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Sorry that you lost root. I just took the Ota through settings and was luckily successful.
Sent from my rooted Note 3 on 4.4.2 NC4 baseband
matt_1224 said:
Sorry that you lost root. I just took the Ota through settings and was luckily successful.
Sent from my rooted Note 3 on 4.4.2 NC4 baseband
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Yea me too. I should have used Odin to reinstall 4.3 to stock Then root, then take OTA as my ota wouldn't take.
kididaho said:
Well, I took the leap.. downloaded the md5 file from sammobile and flashed via Odin.
Alas this is not the way to keep root. I no longer have root. And now have all the bloat from Verizon back on the phone.
So much for trying to be a pioneer.
Now where did I put that hammer.....
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lol! well atleast you tryed,im in the same boat and just as root-less as you are...sucks
giovonniAndroid23 said:
lol! well atleast you tryed,im in the same boat and just as root-less as you are...sucks
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I haven't given up yet.. I probably should but it's not in my nature. Will post back if I hear or find anything
Does anyone have any tips or what to look for if the update keeps failing?
I had Xposed Framework installed...and I think that's the only thing that I had installed that modifies system files...but I uninstalled it's modifications from within the framework app itself, then unistalled the framework apk, then all of the module apk's, then I disabled SU, but the update still won't take...
Anyone have any ideas without losing all my stuff?
Thanks!
PaulusGrandis said:
Does anyone have any tips or what to look for if the update keeps failing?
I had Xposed Framework installed...and I think that's the only thing that I had installed that modifies system files...but I uninstalled it's modifications from within the framework app itself, then unistalled the framework apk, then all of the module apk's, then I disabled SU, but the update still won't take...
Anyone have any ideas without losing all my stuff?
Thanks!
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Can't you transfer the stuff on internal SD to external and transfer it back after you Odin ?
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
mjh68 said:
Can't you transfer the stuff on internal SD to external and transfer it back after you Odin ?
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
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I guess I'm just a little nervous since I've never used Odin before...
But if I follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
...I should be OK right?
I just want to return to latest JellyBean (MJE) stock, root (with Kingo), and then update to NC4 with root intact.
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I guess I'm just a little nervous since I've never used Odin before...
But if I follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
...I should be OK right?
I just want to return to latest JellyBean (MJE) stock, root (with Kingo), and then update to NC4 with root intact.
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Yes, just take your time and follow the instructions in that thread .
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
PaulusGrandis said:
I guess I'm just a little nervous since I've never used Odin before...
But if I follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
...I should be OK right?
I just want to return to latest JellyBean (MJE) stock, root (with Kingo), and then update to NC4 with root intact.
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Just be cautious. It doesn't always work to to update to NC4 w/ root intact. I did it just to see if it was possible and then posted to let everyone know. Kinda wish I hadn't mentioned anything about it.
Sent from my rooted Note 3 on 4.4.2 NC4 baseband
matt_1224 said:
Just be cautious. It doesn't always work to to update to NC4 w/ root intact. I did it just to see if it was possible and then posted to let everyone know. Kinda wish I hadn't mentioned anything about it.
Sent from my rooted Note 3 on 4.4.2 NC4 baseband
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I just wanted to report back and say everything went great and I am now on NC4 with root! Yay!
Just for the record, in SuperSU I had set SuperSU to DISABLED, then set the Survival Mode to ON, then set default action to DENY. Not sure if that matters, but that's what I had and it worked.
Thanks for the tips everyone!
PaulusGrandis said:
I just wanted to report back and say everything went great and I am now on NC4 with root! Yay!
Just for the record, in SuperSU I had set SuperSU to DISABLED, then set the Survival Mode to ON, then set default action to DENY. Not sure if that matters, but that's what I had and it worked.
Thanks for the tips everyone!
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To clarify, how did you finally get the OTA to take in the first place? I did the same as you - uninstalled Xposed modules and framework, reverted framework-res, disabled SU, unfroze any applications, but OTA failed.
EDIT: Or did you Odin back, then disable SU, then OTA? Just confirming before I do it
Thanks!
If you really want to keep root I would not flash NC4 at all, you're risking the possibility of never getting it back. No one has found any major changes from NC2 to NC4 so you really won't be gaining much but could lose a lot.
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airmaxx23 said:
If you really want to keep root I would not flash NC4 at all, you're risking the possibility of never getting it back. No one has found any major changes from NC2 to NC4 so you really won't be gaining much but could lose a lot.
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Yeah, I hear ya. I generally like to just stay stock+root, though, so staying with the official OTA is generally my preferred route. Might just wait and see what comes out in the next few days.
I'm trying to help a family member root their new phone. The most up to date guide I've found here is for the previous update (NI2) and I haven't seen anything for the Verizon NK2 version. Is it still possible to root this version? If so do you know where I can find out how?
worf65 said:
I'm trying to help a family member root their new phone. The most up to date guide I've found here is for the previous update (NI2) and I haven't seen anything for the Verizon NK2 version. Is it still possible to root this version? If so do you know where I can find out how?
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It's the same thing, doesn't matter what the starting version is. You still have to downgrade to NGC
ldeveraux said:
It's the same thing, doesn't matter what the starting version is. You still have to downgrade to NGC
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So just downgrade the kernal to NCG, root, then update the kernal using Odin? Skipping the step about flashing the OTA since its already updated?
worf65 said:
So just downgrade the kernal to NCG, root, then update the kernal using Odin? Skipping the step about flashing the OTA since its already updated?
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No not at all. Just go read the thread it's sticked at the top, or at least it should be
worf65 said:
So just downgrade the kernal to NCG, root, then update the kernal using Odin? Skipping the step about flashing the OTA since its already updated?
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I believe that flashing the kernel would work but you would have to work your way through a lot of FC's. I normally flash a full tar but you having a brand new phone, this probably isn't necessary but it is what I normally do ( below is the tar file I use. It is a complete internal wipe to a like new phone on NGC). Root with towelroot, download SuperSU from play store, update the binaries and reboot. I would suggest safestrap. You would need to download from play store then install busybox first. Then install safestrap and install its recovery.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23610159112652178
Tulsadiver said:
I believe that flashing the kernel would work but you would have to work your way through a lot of FC's. I normally flash a full tar but you having a brand new phone, this probably isn't necessary but it is what I normally do ( below is the tar file I use. It is a complete internal wipe to a like new phone on NGC). Root with towelroot, download SuperSU from play store, update the binaries and reboot. I would suggest safestrap. You would need to download from play store then install busybox first. Then install safestrap and install its recovery.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23610159112652178
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I'm pretty familiar with how rooting the S5 works before updates as that is how I did mine (froze the updater and didn't have time to figure out how to safely update). What I am confused about is what I do when coming from a later software version, the guide is even called "Safely Upgrade and Root..." not how to downgrade and root, and the guide to update to lollipop seems to require already being rooted.
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I'm pretty familiar with how rooting the S5 works before updatesj as that is how I did mine (froze the updater and didn't have time to figure out how to safely update). What I am confused about is what I do when coming from a later software version, the guide is even called "Safely Upgrade and Root..." not how to downgrade and root, and the guide to update to lollipop seems to require already being rooted.
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I told you how to root, downgrade, root, then upgrade. Plus, you need to read down a little further. See notes #4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voc4-5-0-keeproot-t3068546
Tulsadiver said:
I told you how to root, downgrade, root, then upgrade. Plus, you need to read down a little further. See notes #4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voc4-5-0-keeproot-t3068546
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Ok, I had found that guide before getting this new phone for my phone but didn't look at it again since I remembered that it had to be rooted already and was assuming I had to root on an earlier version hence the confusion.
Its understandable why people without root don't read it or at least don't read on down.
So as i dont see the model # listed for CF root or towelroot, im guessing i need to odin custom recovery and flash SU or is there another way out there im not finding?:fingers-crossed:
Karl said:
So as i dont see the model # listed for CF root or towelroot, im guessing i need to odin custom recovery and flash SU or is there another way out there im not finding?:fingers-crossed:
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I was able to use towelroot to get access on this device. I haven't been able to get TWRP onto it though, or get a Rom on either.
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Karl said:
So as i dont see the model # listed for CF root or towelroot, im guessing i need to odin custom recovery and flash SU or is there another way out there im not finding?:fingers-crossed:
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I was able to use towelroot to get access on this device. I haven't been able to get TWRP onto it though, or get a Rom on either.
Hmm how did you get towel root to work
Sent From HTC One M9
Karl said:
Hmm how did you get towel root to work
Sent From HTC One M9
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If this is like a lot of Samsung devices then what's going on is the early firmware (NE2) was rootable with towelroot, but the more recent one (NK1) is not. Check your settings > about tablet to see which build number you're on (I'm assuming it's NK1). The most immediate solution would be to just downgrade the firmware, root, and stay with that (disable update notifications/freeze the updater app).
However, if you know what you're doing, it's only the kernel that needs to be changed. So extract the kernel file (boot.img) from both firmware files and make a tar file for each boot.img. Flash the older kernel, root with towelroot, then flash the newer kernel, and voila you're rooted on the latest build. Your call
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If this is like a lot of Samsung devices then what's going on is the early firmware (NE2) was rootable with towelroot, but the more recent one (NK1) is not. Check your settings > about tablet to see which build number you're on (I'm assuming it's NK1). The most immediate solution would be to just downgrade the firmware, root, and stay with that (disable update notifications/freeze the updater app).
However, if you know what you're doing, it's only the kernel that needs to be changed. So extract the kernel file (boot.img) from both firmware files and make a tar file for each boot.img. Flash the older kernel, root with towelroot, then flash the newer kernel, and voila you're rooted on the latest build. Your call
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do you have the NE2 firm ?
Karl said:
do you have the NE2 firm ?
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I really wish I had a better link for you but it can be found: here
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I really wish I had a better link for you but it can be found: here
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thanks,i saw it on sammobile but you gotta pay to DL
have you used this to make a tar? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446269
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have you used this to make a tar? url
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I have not tried, sorry
I did this with the t337a, if you want I could take a shot at it. I have no way of making sure it works though. Let me know if you are interested or if anyone would be willing to test the kernel.
I own the Tab S. It was released after towelroot was patched. So recently when Kingroot update their root method and such, we now can root with kingroot on KitKat ANK1 firmwares and not trip Knox. Of course people who owned att devices said it worked and some with Verizon said it didn't work. I mean its worth a try if anyone wants to try kingroot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
Rooted! SM-T537V
Kingroot worked
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
I own the Tab S. It was released after towelroot was patched. So recently when Kingroot update their root method and such, we now can root with kingroot on KitKat ANK1 firmwares and not trip Knox. Of course people who owned att devices said it worked and some with Verizon said it didn't work. I mean its worth a try if anyone wants to try kingroot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
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Hi ive got kingroot goin and it says its rooted but when u restart it, its gone.
I've been looking the past two days and can't figure out how to root a BOG5 phone.
Any help? Or is it even possible?
CorneliusRox said:
I've been looking the past two days and can't figure out how to root a BOD5 phone.
Any help? Or is it even possible?
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Look at the stickies. Downgrade, root, upgrade
ldeveraux said:
Look at the stickies. Downgrade, root, upgrade
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Shouldn't that be as simple as downloading 4.4.4 firmware and flashing it with ODIN?
The only thing I can successfully flash my phone with it a stock .tar to BOD5 again after I get it suck at the half download screen.
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Shouldn't that be as simple as downloading 4.4.4 firmware and flashing it with ODIN?
The only thing I can successfully flash my phone with it a stock .tar to BOD5 again after I get it suck at the half download screen.
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So you're on BOD5 and you try to root? what firmware you want to upgrade to? Once you provide the info I will provide the instructions.
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So you're on BOD5 and you try to root? what firmware you want to upgrade to? Once you provide the info I will provide the instructions.
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Basically, I just want to root so I can debloat my phone. I'd like to stay on 5.0, just rooted, but I can't figure it out.
If I OTA'd to BOG5, is it possible to root still?
CorneliusRox said:
Basically, I just want to root so I can debloat my phone. I'd like to stay on 5.0, just rooted, but I can't figure it out.
If I OTA'd to BOG5, is it possible to root still?
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Currently what firmware you are running right now? If you already OTA to OE1 or OG5 you CAN'T ROOT ANYMORE. SO DON'T DO IT.