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[ Happy/Sad ] 'Moto G' is the new Fascinate/Galaxy S

Man I'll have to say I'm kind of both happy & sad...
I appears that the Motorola 'Moto G' 'Falcon' is the new Fascinate/Galaxy S...
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I mean gosh, just like our beloved phone, they have all the variants
cdma - for Verizon, Sprint, Boost
gsm - AT&T, T-Mobile, International
LTE - US or International versions
Prepaid mvno's ... and more
8GB OR 16GB, and the lte versions have removable micro sd
1GB Memory
1.2 GHZ quad-core snapdragon 400 processor
Adreno 305 GPU
2070 mAh battery
5mp rear camera w/flash
1.3mp front camera
4.5 in display
So, it's
physically same size as the fascinate, but more screen real estate, better pixels, faster everything, barely any heavier, development galore, and that price!!!
the cdma Boost Mobile model (3g only) which is only 8 gb and no micro sd expansion slot can be had for $75 BRAND NEW (street pricing), no contract, & shipped to your door!
Did i mention it's readily and easily rooted and flashed over for use on pageplus!
I'm really just floored!!!
I got this moto g as an entry phone for my wife's mom and her 1st smart phone,,, but after seeing how nice it is and how great & smooth and easy to work with no major hoops to jump through,
I'm seriously considering jumping ship quickly...
Just have to figure out if i can handle living with only 8gb storage on a phone...
which is only 6mb usable after the os is all said and done...
... to be continued...
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hhp_211 said:
Man I'll have to say I'm kind of both happy & sad...
I appears that the Motorola 'Moto G' 'Falcon' is the new Fascinate/Galaxy S...
[info rant mode]
I mean gosh, just like our beloved phone, they have all the variants
cdma - for Verizon, Sprint, Boost
gsm - AT&T, T-Mobile, International
LTE - US or International versions
Prepaid mvno's ... and more
8GB OR 16GB, and the lte versions have removable micro sd
1GB Memory
1.2 GHZ quad-core snapdragon 400 processor
Adreno 305 GPU
2070 mAh battery
5mp rear camera w/flash
1.3mp front camera
4.5 in display
So, it's
physically same size as the fascinate, but more screen real estate, better pixels, faster everything, barely any heavier, development galore, and that price!!!
the cdma boost model (3g only) which is only 8 gb and no micro sd expansion slot can be had for $75 BRAND NEW, no contract, & shipped to your door!
Did i mention it's readily and easily rooted and flashed over for use on pageplus!
I'm really just floored!!!
I got this moto g as an entry phone for my wife's mom and her 1st smart phone,,, but after seeing how nice it is and how great & smooth and easy to work with no major hoops to jump through,
I'm seriously considering jumping ship quickly...
Just have to figure out if i can handle living with only 8gb on a phone...
... to be continued...
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and the g has a front facing camera

the moto g is a pretty good phone tho, even today. sure its specs arent fantastic, it would still run kitkat and most games adequately.
my s4 is a beast tho

skepticmisfit said:
the moto g is a pretty good phone tho, even today. sure its specs arent fantastic, it would still run kitkat and most games adequately.
my s4 is a beast tho
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S4 of course!!
Mostly saying for $75 it's a heck of a pageplus phone deal!!

hhp_211 said:
S4 of course!!
Mostly saying for $75 it's a heck of a pageplus phone deal!!
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wait up.. the s4 is $75 on pageplus? or the moto g?

skepticmisfit said:
wait up.. the s4 is $75 on pageplus? or the moto g?
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Moto G brother!

skepticmisfit said:
the moto g is a pretty good phone tho, even today. sure its specs arent fantastic, it would still run kitkat and most games adequately.
my s4 is a beast tho
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And i think specs are very decent to run as a pageplus phone!
With the exception of measly 8gb storage that is...

hhp_211 said:
And i think specs are very decent to run as a pageplus phone!
With the exception of measly 8gb storage that is...
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whats stopping you from getting the 16gb moto g?

skepticmisfit said:
whats stopping you from getting the 16gb moto g?
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well... The Boost version (XT1031) can be unlocked by way of a code provide by Motorola.
Motorola will not provide a unlock code for the Verizon version (XT1028).
The Republic Wireless (CDMA) and AIO (GSM) versions are also "not eligible" for the bootloader unlock codes from Motorola.
the Republic wireless is the only one I'm aware of that is a 16gb model cdma version

I jumped from the Fascinate to the Moto G quite a while ago, but I came back to the fascinate forums because my fassy is used in my car as a media player. That being said, the Moto G is fantastic! The way I get around the small storage space (I have the Boost Mobile flashed to Page Plus) is to use a usb drive. This is the one I use. Some users have reported issues with USB OTG with the newest CM11, as well as a few other versions, but I've not had a problem. In fact, I'm running stock with Xposed + Gravitybox. First time I've ever run a phone on stock and been satisfied.

lightningdude said:
I jumped from the Fascinate to the Moto G quite a while ago, but I came back to the fascinate forums because my fassy is used in my car as a media player. That being said, the Moto G is fantastic! The way I get around the small storage space (I have the Boost Mobile flashed to Page Plus) is to use a usb drive. This is the one I use. Some users have reported issues with USB OTG with the newest CM11, as well as a few other versions, but I've not had a problem. In fact, I'm running stock with Xposed + Gravitybox. First time I've ever run a phone on stock and been satisfied.
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Dude!
I saw you on the moto g page, thanks for the report!
Thanks again, i was just wondering and reading about using a otg cable and a flash drive (usb drive).
I didn't know they made a drive with the micro usb!
That's great!
and the pricing is right in line with normal usb storage
$8 - 16 gb
$16 - 32 gb
That may just very well seal the deal for me
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hhp_211 said:
Dude!
I saw you on the moto g page, thanks for the report!
Thanks again, i was just wondering and reading about using a otg cable and a flash drive (usb drive).
I didn't know they made a drive with the micro usb!
That's great!
and the pricing is right in line with normal usb storage
$8 - 16 gb
$16 - 32 gb
That may just very well seal the deal for me
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Glad I could help. I will warn, though, the Verizon Moto G can't have its bootloader unlocked, nor can it be used on anything but Verizon for at least 6 months. If you intend to use it like that, by all means, go for it. However, if you plan on using it on Page Plus, get a Boost Mobile Moto G. Boost Mobile is the only "branded" Moto G that can have its bootloader unlocked, and since it has the same radios as Verizon, it works if you flash it (which is actually pretty easy).

im starting to wonder why almost none of the carriers are letting people unlock the bootloaders on their moto g devices (with the exception of boost..)
i guess its the same reason, for example, the s4 isnt bootloader unlockable if you had it upgraded past the original bootloader (aka MDK). its all about money.

skepticmisfit said:
im starting to wonder why almost none of the carriers are letting people unlock the bootloaders on their moto g devices (with the exception of boost..)
i guess its the same reason, for example, the s4 isnt bootloader unlockable if you had it upgraded past the original bootloader (aka MDK). its all about money.
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Yup, more proof of their deceptive story lines. Trying to make us believe that with their subsidized pricing/contracts is 'helping' us 'save' money it's really only lining their pockets with more green...

I upgraded my Mom and GF to the Moto G from the HTC Droid Incredible on Pageplus. They like it and the difference is night and day. Only negative is the non removable battery and no micro SD card. Phone misbehaves when you fall below 10% free space. Boost version was available from Target for 59$ earlier last week.
As for me, still using the Fascinate till it dies or something better comes my way.
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tekweezle said:
Boost version was available from Target for 59$ earlier last week.
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Whoa! That is a STEAL for that phone, seriously! plus you can unlock the bootloader with the boost version :good:

skepticmisfit said:
Whoa! That is a STEAL for that phone, seriously! plus you can unlock the bootloader with the boost version :good:
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tekweezle said:
I upgraded my Mom and GF to the Moto G from the HTC Droid Incredible on Pageplus. They like it and the difference is night and day. Only negative is the non removable battery and no micro SD card. Phone misbehaves when you fall below 10% free space. Boost version was available from Target for 59$ earlier last week.
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I know that's why i posted this thread originally for those like myself who were not aware, at the time,,, now routinely under $100 and generally $75 or $65.
This makes it a fantastic choice to move from our slowly dying barely supported funky partitioned phone!
Or the extremely cheap like myself !
Like mentioned the 'otg' cable or otg device makes storage a virtual non issue.

are you all buying the 8GB moto g or the 16gb one? i'd get the 16gb if i were you.. and if money's not as much of an issue.

There is nothing bigger than the 8gb boost version that will work with Pageplus. There are other varieties that work with other carriers but not Pageplus.
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tekweezle said:
There is nothing bigger than the 8gb boost version that will work with Pageplus. There are other varieties that work with other carriers but not Pageplus.
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I guess boost must only have an 8gb version. Oh well.

Moto G discontinued (Flipkart confirms remaining stock is the last)

Moto G2 is set to be announced on the September 4 event internationally, Indian announcement to follow on September 5 at New Delhi. It was a question whether Motorola would discontinue the moto g in favor of G2. Flipkart now announced that they are conducting the sale [of the] last stock of Moto G. So it is confirmed that the Moto G will be discontinued and its place will be taken by the Moto G2.
Moto G has been hugely successful in India. Moto announced that it sold over 1 million handsets through Flipkart till June. Moto is now the 4th biggest smartphone company in India, ahead of Nokia. They achieved this by just 3 handsets, most of the nmbers is because of Moto G.
Moto recently slashed Moto G’s price by Rs.2000 due to recent increase in competition (read Xiaomi Mi 3 and Asus Zenfone 5), making it more attractive for buyers and a nicer deal. Moto G 8gb model recently got out of stock recently and have not been replenished till now. It is to be expected that it was the last stock of Moto G 8gb version. Now, with Flipkart’s ‘Get yours before it’s gone!’ sale, it might be your last chance to get a Moto G.
Moto G2 has been in news and leaks for some time. In case you don’t know, G2 is said to feature a 5-inch 720p display with the same snapdragon 400 processor coupled with 1GB ram. Camera units might be a 5 or 8 megapixel primary with 2 megapixel secondary. It is also said to feature dual front speakers like the htc One. The price might be slightly higher than the Moto G.
Moto G 16gb is set to go out of stock soon and will be permanently unavailable soon. Flipkart is also offering 50% off on Moto G accessories in favor of clearing out stock. It is the best and last time you can get your Moto G, Buy it now or never!
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http://www.gadgetraid.com/2014/08/last-stock-of-moto-g-flipkart​

I suppose the good news is that Moto G 2 appears to be essentially the same hardware as Original Moto G. That should mean it won't take much more work for Motorola to create versions of Android 'L' that work on both devices.

I don't care if this or that is discontinued, I just wish my little fellow gets a taste of Android L... Hope to see a new notification saying "New system update available".. That's all I want.. :crying:
Android L will be the last system update for moto g for sure.. In the future, when android M and N comes out, we will have to look at Cyanogen to have a new custom firmware...

Well,this is sad,because this device is highly known and a great quality device. I think it deserves to get android L at least,and for future updates we cant rely on Cyanogenmod,because currently do not have a high support. I dont know who this guy Ethan Chen is,but i know that dhacker is a great dev,and his support was better. I'm 99.9% shure that he would port L and future updates if he was an offical maintainer.
So in conclusion,we just need barebone android L image and the majority of us will be satisfied.

The Moto G will get the Android L upgrade and i guarantee it. Motorola is still not fully with Lenovo yet. And i read since that Moto's software is near AOSP it should be easy for them to upgrade us soon, but since the Moto G2 is coming out we may get it like a week or two later. Remember how we got kitkat on December 24 even though Motorola said it was coming early 2014 or something like that?

bummer... many people have bought moto g on my recommendation. they are going to kill me.
lets hope android l is in cards and custom roms continue to flourish... cant upgrade my phone yearly

DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Well,this is sad,because this device is highly known and a great quality device. I think it deserves to get android L at least,and for future updates we cant rely on Cyanogenmod,because currently do not have a high support. I dont know who this guy Ethan Chen is,but i know that dhacker is a great dev,and his support was better. I'm 99.9% shure that he would port L and future updates if he was an offical maintainer.
So in conclusion,we just need barebone android L image and the majority of us will be satisfied.
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That's true, since this is a worldwide well known device, it should receive L, because it would be a great hit between customers. But if you think, maybe if falcon is discontinued, for Motorola won't be necessary to upgrade the device to L since moto g won't be available anymore.
But, if Motorola wants to be recognized as one of the best device maintainers talking about updates, they must consider upgrade falcon to L. Then, Motorola users, with no doubt, will gen a moto in the future instead of buying another phone.

Larger screen on g2 with same resolution translates to lower PPI. Only significant change is the camera.

I actually bought the g for the smaller screen and 720p quality . I already have the s3 and s4 which are slightly uncomfortable to hold in one hand due to their larger screens . I also have the moto e which is as good as the g. You won't find much difference in the moto g and e for daily use except if you need the front camera for video calls then moto g does not have it . Sorry for being slightly OT .

moto g will get android l
abhifx said:
bummer... many people have bought moto g on my recommendation. they are going to kill me.
lets hope android l is in cards and custom roms continue to flourish... cant upgrade my phone yearly
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Don't worry moto g will get stock Android l,motorola germany said that it will upgrade the moto g & x first to Android L..till now no words about Moto e about the future upgrade

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That's really sad that they have just discontinued their one of the best selling handsets...
but i just want that MOTOROLA keeps doing the good work by pushing more updates for our moto g

XdroidBD said:
That's really sad that they have just discontinued their one of the best selling handsets...
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They aren't discontinuing it until they release the Moto G2. So it isn't like you won't be able to get one for the same similar price and hardware.

bozzykid said:
They aren't discontinuing it until they release the Moto G2. So it isn't like you won't be able to get one for the same similar price and hardware.
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Yes they are (May be in India for now), Flipkart is the exclusive online retailer for Moto g in India. They confirmed and is now selling the last stocks they have from Moto. **sale is still going on**

yesabhijith said:
Yes they are (May be in India for now), Flipkart is the exclusive online retailer for Moto g in India. They confirmed and is now selling the last stocks they have from Moto. **sale is still going on**
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Yes, and the Moto G2 is coming out in a few weeks. So there is no great loss. This is what happens when new generations of phones come out.

bozzykid said:
Yes, and the Moto G2 is coming out in a few weeks. So there is no great loss. This is what happens when new generations of phones come out.
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isn't it a loss for someone looking for a good small sized handset? Not everyone is the fan of a 5-inch device.Right?

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isn't it a loss for someone looking for a good small sized handset? Not everyone is the fan of a 5-inch device.Right?
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Sure. But if the phone size itself is the same, I think most people will be fine with it.

So one company announces it will stop selling Moto G's in favour of the G2 and the community think that is equivalent to the G being discontinued? Oh, by the way, here in the UK, carphone warehouse have listed the Moto G in their stores as "new". Just for the record.

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So one company announces it will stop selling Moto G's in favour of the G2 and the community think that is equivalent to the G being discontinued? Oh, by the way, here in the UK, carphone warehouse have listed the Moto G in their stores as "new". Just for the record.
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Flipkart is the only retailer in India that sells the moto g.

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Sure. But if the phone size itself is the same, I think most people will be fine with it.
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May be. But the leaked images shows a slightly bigger phone right? Bezels are also not that thin like G3. So how can you expect a device of similar size?

Cheapest DECENT Android smartphone in 2015

I've seen the specs and I believe this is going to be the cheapest usable Android smartphone in 2015.
What do you guys think?

Sd410 is ****

I've bought one today for my dad. However I read someone mention on gsm arena that this Moto G is going to be rubbish compared to previous versions, because its made by Lenovo and not Google. Is this something to be concerned about or just a random opinion from a Google fan?

That makes no sense.
As far as I understand, Lenovo just bought Motorola to get access to the NA/EU phone market.
Why would it mess with the internal workings of a company that's been around longer than Lenovo's parent company???
Manufacturing shouldn't change from when it was owned by Google, who bought it for patent and manufacturing reasons.

I'm a little surprised there isn't more talk about the device on here. I'm currently on the iPhone 6 Plus but want to get myself the Moto G to play with and use as a back up.
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Why would it mess with the internal workings of a company that's been around longer than Lenovo's parent company???
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If you are talking about IBM, IBM doesn't own Lenovo. Also, IBM has been around (not called IBM back then) since the 1890's, where Motorola has only been around since the 1920's.
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This is far away from the cheapest decent android phone in my city(Hong Kong)
There are Xiaomi,Mizhu(?),Huawei,ASUS(for the zenphone 2 with 4gb ram,13mp camera, full hd display,5.x display and sell with about the same price as moto g did off -contract)
And you can buy even OnePlus One in any retail smartphone shop
This moto G is not the best cheapest phone anymore
Sent from my Moto G 1st gen

I'm an iPhone user, but I'm using the Moto G as a backup Android device. I like it. It's not a world-beater, but no one expected it to be. Solid device.
Here's my review:

Good overview of all the features you are getting for your money.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/07/29/moto-g-2015-hands-on-video​

Nice.. hopefully no lags here.. hhhm

JeffBenjamin said:
I'm an iPhone user, but I'm using the Moto G as a backup Android device. I like it. It's not a world-beater, but no one expected it to be. Solid device.
Here's my review:
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Jeff, which version did you review; was it the unlocked US XT1540? I was hoping the charging cable was a two piece set; micro USB and walk plug.
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alfick3 said:
Jeff, which version did you review; was it the unlocked US XT1540? I was hoping the charging cable was a two piece set; micro USB and walk plug.
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Yep, the unlocked US XT1540. And nope, it's a combine cable/plug. Kind of weird.

Thank you sir. Oh well, not a show stopper, just a small bump in the road.
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Firstly I wasn't talking about IBM. IBM sold Lenovo it's PC unit and IBM now focuses on services for the backbone/back office of the internet and intranets.
Back on topic -
Motorola for the second time has released a new phone that was GSM only first and then re-release with a few updated and adds an LTE radio.
The 2nd gen LTE Moto G was too expensive for a terrible camera. My Radiant has a bad enough camera but I used it for work anyway and still got decent pictures.
I opted to fix my Optimus G which I dropped on the screen side and it shattered = $155; as I was having space issues despite installing Link2SD on my Radiant.
This was back in May, I couldn't afford to wait for Motorola to announce an updated 3rd gen Moto G with the LTE radio.
Now I am dealing with a screen that has a mind of it's own. I can no longer make or take calls as the screen goes dark completely and I have no access to the dial or other phone controls. I used to get around this by connecting it to my BT headphones but that stopped working. The only way it works with the screen on now is -
1) Connected to the BT in my Panasonic Link2Cell cordless
2) My Car's BT (factory)
That's just the tip of the problems I have now. Otherwise the phone works fine.
I will keep it around for it's camera and video capabilities.
Now the decision is -
1) Moto G for $180 but it's skimpy on RAM and internal memory
2) Moto G for $219 but it's hardly better than the Asus Zenphone 2
I am leaning towards the Zenphone 2 actually because it seems to work well in low light. As I said I use my phone for work and while store lights are overall fine, the light isn't bright like a sunshine or controlled lighting under more ideal conditions.
Actually I should get a phone with optical stabilization since I don't have the calmest hands in the world and it sometimes takes two or three shots for get a sharp picture.
The One Plus Two has that, but not the Moto X? Hmmm... Not sure I want to shell out $400 for a phone though, I have other pressing priorities.

the MOTO is one thing I'd like to try.. Never own one and based on several reviews, they're looking good. I'm leaning for the cheaper one. I think it's aint a bad idea after all

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Nina.s said:
I've bought one today for my dad. However I read someone mention on gsm arena that this Moto G is going to be rubbish compared to previous versions, because its made by Lenovo and not Google. Is this something to be concerned about or just a random opinion from a Google fan?
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Could you share new messages app apk of Moto G 3rd Gen?

amarentine said:
Nice.. hopefully no lags here.. hhhm
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I just came from Moto G 2014. Was using Titan Prime Rom + Greenify donation + Custom kernel + Xposed + Amplify + Tasker. The phone sucked on stock but I made it a beast for the last few months. However, I couldn't resist the camera, battery and ram upgrade and traded in my 2014 and got the G 2015 and I have used it only for a day but I can tell without a doubt, I find it smoother than my G 2014 (the tweaked one). Everything runs the way it is supposed to and I've about 40 odd apps installed and it still runs without any lag or jitters and the battery life is good. Been using it from noon today (it is 10.45p.m. here), battery is down to 56% and 3 hours 10 mins of SOT and out of this 1.5hrs I downloaded 40 apps on a very slow WiFi. So yeah, very happy with the phone as of now.

No NFC in 2015...

djfourmoney said:
Not sure I want to shell out $400 for a phone though, I have other pressing priorities.
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If you are not willing to shell out $500 (or more) for a phone, then you shouldn't expect to get a great camera with OIS. At least not now. In a few months the S6 will come down in price.

JulesJam said:
If you are not willing to shell out $500 (or more) for a phone, then you shouldn't expect to get a great camera with OIS. At least not now. In a few months the S6 will come down in price.
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Not denying that, I just didn't want a worse camera than my current phone.
It won't come down that much, an LG G3 is now $399 unlocked (AT&T) and the G2 is about $280.

IF you had the chance to switch to a different phone, which one would you choose?

My phone got wet and because of that, a half inch strip of the digitizer went bad. Squaretrade is reimbursing me for the buying price of the phone. I don't know if I should get the same phone, a Nexus 6P, or something else. All carrier unlock is important to me because I plan to switch from AT&T to Verizon. Expandable storage is pretty great but, I guess that can be accomplished with OTG. I really love the phone but isn't there something better available now with more features (IR remote, FM radio, screen projector) that's all carrier ready at around the same price?

The Verizon compatibility is the sticking point. I think the One Plus would be where I would go if I wasn't on Verizon.
I believe Team Firewater is about to release an unlock for the HTC 10. I would probably go back to HTC if I was going to switch. LG G5 is another possibility but my sons g3 just developed a sim card reading problem so I don't know how reliable they are. I also am not sure how developer friendly these phones are.
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Axon 7 or Nexus 6P

I would get a temporary phone for a few weeks and then get a new Nexus. Probably sailfish (5" screen). They will be faster and better on battery.
If you're intent on getting one now, get a nexus 5X or 6P. They're going for pretty cheap right now actually.

Since AT&T -AND- Verizon and a similar price point are all requirements, your choices are pretty limited... Here would be my choices
1) Axon 7 - this is actually a really nice phone for the money, and Verizon support has been confirmed
2) Nexus 5x or 6P - The 5x has been floating around $250 for the 32GB model and the 6p around $430, so assuming your budget is $350, this is a tough one for the budget requirement
3) Moto G4 - Seriously... for $300 bucks you get 64GB storage, 4GB RAM, and an octo-core processor. Compatibility with all major US carriers
3) Moto X Pure Edition - Honestly, this is still a really good phone for the money

I ended up ordering another Moto X Pure 64GB. I thank you all for your input. I seriously considered the Nexus 6P and decided that I love my 128GB SD card too much and getting the 128GB Nexus would cost $150 more plus need to remember to keep an OTG with me at all times. Plus, I really like the phone. The Moto Z Force looks like the phone I'll want to sink some dough into later on. That with the projector option looks pretty incredible. But, it's not an all carrier phone either. Anyway, I get my new Moto X Pure this coming Wednesday from Amazon Prime for $100 less than Squaretrade paid me out. No complaints.

buggerritt said:
I ended up ordering another Moto X Pure 64GB. I thank you all for your input. I seriously considered the Nexus 6P and decided that I love my 128GB SD card too much and getting the 128GB Nexus would cost $150 more plus need to remember to keep an OTG with me at all times. Plus, I really like the phone. The Moto Z Force looks like the phone I'll want to sink some dough into later on. That with the projector option looks pretty incredible. But, it's not an all carrier phone either. Anyway, I get my new Moto X Pure this coming Wednesday from Amazon Prime for $100 less than Squaretrade paid me out. No complaints.
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I think you made a good choice. My only lament about the MXPE is that it doesn't have a big battery like the Moto Turbo 2 or Maxx 2. I LOVE the big screen, I use the storage on my 64GB micro SD card constantly and the design and speed and controls locations are all perfect for me. Now, if either the Turbo 2 or Maxx 2 had unlockable bootloaders I'd give them a hard look but that seems unlikely from what I've read.

Some questions before I order?

I am very excited to order a new Moto G4 Plus, it will be a replacement for my One Plus X which was stolen about 6 weeks ago.
Amazon UK have the following listing:
Motorola Moto G4 Plus 16GB Dual SIM-Free Smartphone - White - Exclusive to Amazon for £199 (€221/$248)
The Dual SIM would be useful for my work number, but not at the price of a white phone!
Am I correct the Moto G4 Plus cannot be bought for that price dual SIM in black?
If so would it be possible and cost effective to order that white dual SIM model and a black front and back bezel?
Otherwise I was thinking of ordering this model:
Motorola Moto G4 Plus 16GB SIM-Free Smartphone - Black (Single SIM) - (Exclusive to Amazon) for £199
Unless there are issues with heat or performance with that model and I should consider a 3GB RAM model instead? I have a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD card so I thought I could get by with 16GB of on board memory...

dusf said:
Am I correct the Moto G4 Plus cannot be bought for that price dual SIM in black?
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That's correct.
dusf said:
If so would it be possible and cost effective to order that white dual SIM model and a black front and back bezel?
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The G4 Plus is available in black directly from Motorola for £229.00
www.motorola.co.uk/products/motomaker/FLEXR10UK?version=16MP32GB&front-color=color-black

HE4VYCR0WN said:
The G4 Plus is available in black directly from Motorola for £229.00
www.motorola.co.uk/products/motomaker/FLEXR10UK?version=16MP32GB&front-color=color-black
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Thanks, I think I would pay the £30 for the bump from 16GB to 32GB, in black, and dual SIM. I do not see anywhere on that page it is dual SIM, are you absolutely certain it is?

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Thanks, I think I would pay the £30 for the bump from 16GB to 32GB, in black, and dual SIM. I do not see anywhere on that page it is dual SIM, are you absolutely certain it is?
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I just read on another page:
Dual SIM standard on all Moto Maker Moto G4 Plus handsets.
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This may not be relevant considering the reasons you're upgrading from OPX, but given my few days experience with OPX you'd miss its fantastic OLED display on MOTO G. At the cost of sounding discouraging, being a current Moto G4 plus user I'd recommend considering another phone for your intended purpose of upgrading. This is based on my two month rigorous use and finding far too many issues with Moto G4 plus for its hype. For one, unless you aren't fond of dedicating a few hours each day flashing ROMs and tweaking settings or installing mods, heating-up and ghost touch issues, apart from Moto G's build and design are not easy to accept for the price you pay for this fourth moto G iteration which is far from its predecessors' in terms of quality and performance.
As for the memory, going from 16 to 32 gig is surely worthwhile though only if there weren't other 32Gig phones out there offering better performance at prolly more competent prices.
Sorry if I sound sore, but couldn't help being honest with what I've learned from buying this phone.
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Frances91 said:
This may not be relevant considering the reasons you're upgrading from OPX, but given my few days experience with OPX you'd miss its fantastic OLED display on MOTO G. At the cost of sounding discouraging, being a current Moto G4 plus user I'd recommend considering another phone for your intended purpose of upgrading. This is based on my two month rigorous use and finding far too many issues with Moto G4 plus for its hype. For one, unless you aren't fond of dedicating a few hours each day flashing ROMs and tweaking settings or installing mods, heating-up and ghost touch issues, apart from Moto G's build and design are not easy to accept for the price you pay for this fourth moto G iteration which is far from its predecessors' in terms of quality and performance.
As for the memory, going from 16 to 32 gig is surely worthwhile though only if there weren't other 32Gig phones out there offering better performance at prolly more competent prices.
Sorry if I sound sore, but couldn't help being honest with what I've learned from buying this phone.
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Oh, I had thought the heat issues were resolved!
I actually ordered a few days go, Motorola's website told me so, but then sent me an email saying it was cancelled. I queried this with support and they told me it was because my bank declined the transfer, but I spoke with my bank and they said Motorola never tried to take the money!
I just ordered again about an hour ago...
What phone would you recommend instead? I was pretty set on the Moto G4 Plus

Why don't get a Note 7 instead.

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Why don't get a Note 7 instead.
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I don't have a G4 Plus but I do have a G4 XT1625. It blows my previous Moto G2 out of the water in performance, battery life and reliability. No major issues at all on stock or with the custom ROM I now use. I have been using it for about two months and couldn't be happier with it.

pastorbob62 said:
And why not shoot yourself in the foot at the same time? Do you not read the news? The Note 7 has had more issues than any phone in the history of smartphones. Samsung has lost over $2 billion due to Note 7 issues and recalls. Even the replacements for the original recalls have been pulled off the market. Avoid the Note 7 like the plague.
I don't have a G4 Plus but I do have a G4 XT1625. It blows my previous Moto G2 out of the water in performance, battery life and reliability. No major issues at all on stock or with the custom ROM I now use. I have been using it for about two months and couldn't be happier with it.
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You know what irony and sarcasm is, right?

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You know what irony and sarcasm is, right?
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Okay, I missed that. But he was asking for serious advice so I guess I didn't expect it. Just sayin'.

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Okay, I missed that. But he was asking for serious advice so I guess I didn't expect it. Just sayin'.
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That was the laughing smiley for.

Okay, so it seems most would recommend their Moto G4 Plus.
Another 'Moto-maker' order cancelled by Motorola UK. After speaking with 3 technical support agents through their web based Live Chat, and being unable to get a clear answer from either one of them, I phoned and spoke with someone whose first language was actually English, and they explained the orders were cancelled because I was using a redirection service.
As I am in the Republic of Ireland I cannot order directly from Motorola UK, instead I tried using the same forwarder I always use for this kind of thing, but it is blacklsited by Motorola UK. Not sure what to do now, I really want a black dual SIM 32GB G4 Plus, but I do not want to pay Amazon an extra £39 for the privilege! It would be a real shame if I had to instead opt for the black single sim 16GB model from Amazon.
I am not sure what to do now, perhaps see if any family have friends in the UK that would manually forward it.

Sorry about that, I wasn't aware you'd already ordered for one, could have toned down the bad stuff I've had to say.
I guess, having shopped around a bit, doesn't look like there's much to choose from if I were to get a different phone, besides to be more honest my budget won't allow an upgrade just as yet. So guess I'll live with it for now and while my time away installing and uninstalling programs to squeeze out whatever good I can from my Moto G4 Plus.
And yes, majority moto g4 owners do seem to be swearing by their phones, that should ideally suffice to join their lot, besides making it worth buying considering there's going to be no dearth of dedicated forums and communities and such.
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FWIW, there are things I'd like to see like NFC, a magnetic compass and water repellent like the G3 but all in all it's a pretty solid phone for the price. Oh yea, it doesn't have the built-in heater like some Samsung phones but I can live without that.
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