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[Q] Game experience

Nexus 7 seems like a very interesting device, but has anyone tried games like GTA 3 and Max Payne on it?
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Blefish said:
Nexus 7 seems like a very interesting device, but has anyone tried games like GTA 3 and Max Payne on it?
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From what google showed off at the I/O it would easily handle these games

Dead trigger looks fantastic on it!
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Games look awesome on this & have yet to have any issues.
I'm currently playing FF3 & ME:I. I had to use a TiBU of ME:I to install though. Sadly, if you're a gamer, be smart & spend that extra $50 for the 16GB model. You won't regret it at all.
You have to be space conscious with a 8GB especially when you have to factor in your nandroids.

RMXO said:
Games look awesome on this & have yet to have any issues.
I'm currently playing FF3 & ME:I. I had to use a TiBU of ME:I to install though. Sadly, if you're a gamer, be smart & spend that extra $50 for the 16GB model. You won't regret it at all.
You have to be space conscious with a 8GB especially when you have to factor in your nandroids.
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Thanks for this. I plan to play games quite a bit on this. I have tiBU's of mc3, max Payne, and I can backup my ME but will backups from my EVO 4g LTE work well on jelly bean on 7" screen?
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pathtologos said:
Thanks for this. I plan to play games quite a bit on this. I have tiBU's of mc3, max Payne, and I can backup my ME but will backups from my EVO 4g LTE work well on jelly bean on 7" screen?
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I have yet to bring over my Android folder which holds all the files to my games since it would eat up all my free space. But, I will transfer it over once I get my 16GB.

If you have fast Internet connection, try OnLive.

lanwarrior said:
If you have fast Internet connection, try OnLive.
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Onlive works really nicely on my Transformer Prime, so no reason it should be any different for the Nexus
I assume using the Onlive bluetooth controller will be fine?

although there are very few that have the nexus 7 right now, I'm wondering if those who have any kind of tablet have ever tried restoring a titanium backup of a game from their phone to a tablet. Is the apk vastly different due to screen size, or does it "adjust" itself for running on a tablet? It's not a deal breaker for me cuz I'm probably going to play tegra 3 games on the n7 but it would be nice to restore my mc3 or my mass effect which I currently have backed up on my EVO 4g LTE.
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BiggerH said:
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Onlive works really nicely on my Transformer Prime, so no reason it should be any different for the Nexus
I assume using the Onlive bluetooth controller will be fine?
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I have the Universal Controller and it works on my (now sold) Galaxy Table with Android 3.0 (HoneyComb). It also works on my friend's Galaxy Nexus with Android 4.0 (ICS), so theoretically it should work with 4.1 (Jelly Bean).

I've already bought Dead Trigger and have a list of Indie games to buy from the Play Store with my $25 credit as soon as my N7 arrives. I can't see how this tablet will be anything less than stellar running top games.

Best Device there is? fastest best ect?

whats the best android to buy, not bothered about budget as just sold my tablet to get one as i use in my room for downloading films and that, preferably one with 2 usbs so can you mouse and keyboard
whats the best device out at the moment thanks

on the horizonb
Best device is on the horizon.
MK808B is new. I have it - can vote that it is better than UG802. No antenna MOD needed.
UG007 is new.
V8 is new with external Antenna.
Just monitor Geekbuying, Aliexpress and similar sites.
Then 2GB RAM devices coming. Then quad-core devices coming. A15 is probably coming.

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Then 2GB RAM devices coming. Then quad-core devices coming. A15 is probably coming.
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Quad Core devices are already available

i own an mk802III and i'm very happy with it. for what i read rikomagic is the most reliable company providing updates and solving bugs... i just hope that some dev will put some interest into it...

MK808 (Cheap but need some antena mod) or Neo G4 One of the best

Since the OP mentioned 2 USB ports:
This is the only one I've seen with 2 full size USB ports (except of course, Set Top style systems):
http://www.smallart-odm.com/pro.asp?id=2
http://dx.com/p/uhost2-dual-core-an...-wi-fi-bluetooth-1gb-ram-4gb-rom-black-167645
It got a pretty good review over at tabletrepublic.com.
http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/uhost2-u2/uhost2-another-review-uk-perspective-3266.html (down at the time of this posting)
Specs look good, except no JB yet.

I've just got the mk809 , no trouble with wifi my router is in another room and I get good signal., device is quick and paired with my Logitech k400 wireless keyboard it make a great combination.
Come with 4.1.1 jelly bean pre installed.
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I did the same search for the last 2 days, I ended up getting the Zealz Gk802, I think its going to be a great device that will develop fast.

Psycho77 said:
I did the same search for the last 2 days, I ended up getting the Zealz Gk802, I think its going to be a great device that will develop fast.
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that's what i have, just want to get JB on it.... didn't have time to play with yet, hopefully this weekend.

I have gk802. Gonna return it. Heat issues, laggy, no custom roms, usb does not work if not connected via ac adapter. Too many issues. I am going to wait fir Archos tv connect or get mk808b.

I have an MK808 and love it. It is super fast and handles games like a champ. I don't have the newer Bluetooth model and its killing me. I bought it for emulators (N64 and PSx) thinking I could use one of many USB-BT adapters I own. But none work.
So I'm stuck using a wired controller or a wireless 360 but I want to get the Sixaxis app setup and working with my PS3 controller.
My goal is to get 2 controllers setup for some Mario Mart 64 action.
The MK808B would fix this but it doesn't seem to be getting any dev love. The original MK808 that I have has several custom roms and development.
I'm thinking of maybe selling my MK808 and waiting. Bluetooth in these little sticks really seem flaky ATM across the board. I have 2 new USB BT sticks coming from china that supposedly work with the CM10 roms. Minus Bluetooth, the MK808 is great.
The GK802 looks good on paper and I almost picked one up but it really is having some issues with stuff. For a quad core... it has issues doing what the MK808 can do.
I might pick up my neighbors LG G2x Tegra 2 phone and just make it a dedicated TV unit.
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Shone1980 said:
I have gk802. Gonna return it. Heat issues, laggy, no custom roms, usb does not work if not connected via ac adapter. Too many issues. I am going to wait fir Archos tv connect or get mk808b.
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Wow, sounds like a great deal of issue.. bummer

Shone1980 said:
I have gk802. Gonna return it. Heat issues, laggy, no custom roms, usb does not work if not connected via ac adapter. Too many issues. I am going to wait fir Archos tv connect or get mk808b.
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We've got some roms over at armtvtech. A little custom with root and play store fix.(I've also got something special in the works heh)
I'm testing the usb fix right now.
We've also got full Ubuntu images.
The GK802/HI802 are a bit new atm. So please keep in mind that many people are just starting to receive them. It takes a little bit for people to get adjusted to a new system in order to make custom images.
I'd say that for the moment when it comes to custom roms the MK808 is king.
I expect the GK802 to take over the throne pretty quickly.

deadhp1 said:
We've got some roms over at armtvtech. A little custom with root and play store fix.(I've also got something special in the works heh)
I'm testing the usb fix right now.
We've also got full Ubuntu images.
The GK802/HI802 are a bit new atm. So please keep in mind that many people are just starting to receive them. It takes a little bit for people to get adjusted to a new system in order to make custom images.
I'd say that for the moment when it comes to custom roms the MK808 is king.
I expect the GK802 to take over the throne pretty quickly.
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Yea I loaded your rooted with play store fix. Thanks for that.

Help choosing
Any word on the mk809 II? I really want to het one of these devices but do not know which to chose. I did see the archos one and i do like the bulky remote for the use of the games. Are there any good game controllers to use with these devices for regular android games and emulators.
Which device is the best, fastest, and stable ?

nefiwashere said:
Any word on the mk809 II? I really want to het one of these devices but do not know which to chose. I did see the archos one and i do like the bulky remote for the use of the games. Are there any good game controllers to use with these devices for regular android games and emulators.
Which device is the best, fastest, and stable ?
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I have several controllers that work. A corded SixAxis and a wireless 360 and a USB PC gamepad.
I heard the Archos is really bad... and in comparison to these Android sticks.... that's bad.
I have an MK808. I recommend the Bluetooth version for more options. Or the GK802. The MK808 plays every game I've thrown at it. I don't know how the GK802 plays but it should.
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player911 said:
I have several controllers that work. A corded SixAxis and a wireless 360 and a USB PC gamepad.
I heard the Archos is really bad... and in comparison to these Android sticks.... that's bad.
I have an MK808. I recommend the Bluetooth version for more options. Or the GK802. The MK808 plays every game I've thrown at it. I don't know how the GK802 plays but it should.
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Ok so any difrance between the mk808b and mk809 II. Ill take a look at the sixaxis controler to see what thats about

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Ok so any difrance between the mk808b and mk809 II. Ill take a look at the sixaxis controler to see what thats about
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There is no logic to their numbering schemes. The MK808 is getting lots of love and the 808b is following suit. Look at the forum traffic and pick.
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I have been following the progress on the development of these devices for a while and am glad to see prices have come down
it would be helpful if someone who knows could compile a table of the various models and specs. Atleast by the naming conventions and when they appeared on the marketplace, the hierarchy from high to low seems to be
MK809II-same as the 809 but has bluetooth?
MK809-?
MK808B-same as the 808 but has bluetooth?
MK808-Dual Core A9?
MK802-being the original A8 1 GHZ Single core version.

tekweezle said:
I have been following the progress on the development of these devices for a while and am glad to see prices have come down
it would be helpful if someone who knows could compile a table of the various models and specs. Atleast by the naming conventions and when they appeared on the marketplace, the hierarchy from high to low seems to be
MK809II-same as the 809 but has bluetooth?
MK809-?
MK808B-same as the 808 but has bluetooth?
MK808-Dual Core A9?
MK802-being the original A8 1 GHZ Single core version.
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+1. I sure look forward to this also. I am already confused with all the different versions and the pros and cons for each.
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There is no logic to their numbering schemes. The MK808 is getting lots of love and the 808b is following suit. Look at the forum traffic and pick.
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I see that mk808 is very popular, but it seems to have a lot of glitches, especially with the wifi. thats what really holding me back in general. I am still debating if I should go with the 808 or 809 yikes!

Gameloft games not supported

So I basically couldnt wait for the sheild to come out and I bought one only to find out that big gameloft titles like Modern combat 4, Nova 3 etc are not supported by the shiled controls :crying: why nvidia why, I would have thought that nvidia would have some kind of on screen mapping controls like archos gamepad but I was wrong, I hope soon that they will with some kind of software update because alot of ppl who bought this thing to play big Gameloft Tiltes are not happy plzzzzz nvidia fix this
Current devices:
Xperia tablet Z 4G LTE. (4.2.2 rooted on stock rom)
Xperia Z. (4.2.2 rooted on custom Rom monxDIFIED)
Galaxy S4. (4.2.2 rooted on omega Rom)
Galaxy Note 2. (4.3 CM10.2)
Nvidia Shield. (4.2.1 rooted stock Rom)
PlayStation Vita 3G & WiFi (collecting dust)

There are 3rd party apps that let you do that.
Also NVidia have no obligation to "fix" this when it isn't an advertised feature.
If anything the only people that have to fix things are gameloft themselves.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
There are 3rd party apps that let you do that.
Also NVidia have no obligation to "fix" this when it isn't an advertised feature.
If anything the only people that have to fix things are gameloft themselves.
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Yes your right I hope gameloft update thier games to be compatible with the shield and their future games, besides what are the best 3rd party apps that work well with the shield

Here is the 3rd party app call gamekeyboard that can map the screen button
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.gamekeyboard&hl=en

Just to let you know, Modern Combat 4 works just fine on the SHIELD. You can fire and ironsight with the R1/L1 buttons and sprint/crouch by pushing up or down twice on the left analog.
Try the Amazon App store, it's $6.99 there. The game runs very smooth and multiplayer works great as well.

MicroByter said:
Just to let you know, Modern Combat 4 works just fine on the SHIELD. You can fire and ironsight with the R1/L1 buttons and sprint/crouch by pushing up or down twice on the left analog.
Try the Amazon App store, it's $6.99 there. The game runs very smooth and multiplayer works great as well.
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oh my GOD Nova 3 just updated today as well and now it works fine with the shield and so happy now as well as Mordern combat 4, thanks Gameloft am sure they heard my cry :good:

wrc1010 said:
Here is the 3rd party app call gamekeyboard that can map the screen button
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.gamekeyboard&hl=en
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thankyou for this information :good:

eman2001 said:
oh my GOD Nova 3 just updated today as well and now it works fine with the shield and so happy now as well as Mordern combat 4, thanks Gameloft and sure they heard my cry :good:
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Wow, that is awesome news about NOVA 3. When you say it works fine, you mean the controls all work? If so, downloading later when I get home.

MicroByter said:
Wow, that is awesome news about NOVA 3. When you say it works fine, you mean the controls all work? If so, downloading later when I get home.
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yea all the controls just works fine :laugh::good:

eman2001 said:
yea all the controls just works fine :laugh::good:
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Woot! Thanks, getting it tonight!

eman2001 said:
oh my GOD Nova 3 just updated today as well and now it works fine with the shield and so happy now as well as Mordern combat 4, thanks Gameloft am sure they heard my cry :good:
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Then tell them to update Asphalt 7 or release 8 with Shield controls.

darkjedi said:
Then tell them to update Asphalt 7 or release 8 with Shield controls.
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well i hope they do soon

MicroByter said:
Just to let you know, Modern Combat 4 works just fine on the SHIELD. You can fire and ironsight with the R1/L1 buttons and sprint/crouch by pushing up or down twice on the left analog.
Try the Amazon App store, it's $6.99 there. The game runs very smooth and multiplayer works great as well.
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Weird, are you saying it's not being sold through the Shield from the Play store? cuz i just did a search and could not find it. but when i searched on my desktop it shows up? all i can find is a bunch of cheats

GTX420 said:
Weird, are you saying it's not being sold through the Shield from the Play store? cuz i just did a search and could not find it. but when i searched on my desktop it shows up? all i can find is a bunch of cheats
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Same issue. I bought modern combat 4 for my phone a while ago, but I see no way to get it onto my shield.
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LADIES AND GENTS!
Root your shield and download "Device Spoofer". This app does as it sounds and spoofs google play into thinking your shield is whatever you want it to be. This makes it so you are no longer limited to games available to only shield. I have chosen to spoof the system into thinking my shield is an Xperia Play. Now I have access to all Gameloft games on the Google Play Market.
I'm still testing controller support while spoofing though. Don't get too excited.

unisasquatch said:
Same issue. I bought modern combat 4 for my phone a while ago, but I see no way to get it onto my shield.
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LADIES AND GENTS!
Root your shield and download "Device Spoofer". This app does as it sounds and spoofs google play into thinking your shield is whatever you want it to be. This makes it so you are no longer limited to games available to only shield. I have chosen to spoof the system into thinking my shield is an Xperia Play. Now I have access to all Gameloft games on the Google Play Market.
I'm still testing controller support while spoofing though. Don't get too excited.
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I went ahead and grabbed MC4 off Amazon App store...annoyed to have to buy again, but I was real curious about it working on the shield, and it does work well. The control mappings could be a bit better though, but maybe they are working it.
I also would like them to update Wild Blood - since I paid for that sometime ago but want to play it on my shield.
I wish they would quit releasing everything as freemium...I hope they DO NOT release MC5 as free to play.

I have an issue with the right stick not working in Max Payne and all gameloft games. Anyone else having that issue?

unisasquatch said:
I have an issue with the right stick not working in Max Payne and all gameloft games. Anyone else having that issue?
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drag down the top right notification and untick virtual mouse off, then it should work :good:

Think I found my first actual complaint with the shield and it's completely software related, possibly analog stick driver related. Could be corrected for in games, but after some testing all games are sort of struck by this.
You turn off mouse emulation and the analog stick movement in games is almost entirely static aside from the small zone in the center where you can make minor corrections. Movement hits "balls to the wall" max value very quickly IMO.
Nova 3 is brilliant with shield, a lot like a Halo 3 clone, I have spent many many many hours playing halo 3 so I was very excited. After playing for about 4-5 hours last night, one thing I could tell as being mostly different (aside from R bumper fire vs R trigger fire) was regardless of the sensitivity setting, the acceleration spectrum of the joystick isn't anywhere near the same.
You can turn down the look sensitivity and moving the stick quickly plateaued out on the speed you can look in any direction. You turn it up too high 3/5th-5/5th and it makes it impossible to make any kind of very sensitive minor correction. (no scopes) For me anyway, having it set to 1/5-2/5th sensitivity is perfect for the minor corrections in that game and getting those headshots with ease. But it makes making major corrections (looking behind you 180's) impractical. When playing on the xbox the more aggressive the stick movements the more it will accelerate your movement while still keeping minor corrections possible with minor movements. (I played halo 3 on 2/5th setting)
So, I went in and started checking other games, maybe it was just a problem with nova... and it's basically doing the same thing in every game. Spent a lot of time playing GTA 3 and same thing there as well. I didn't pick it up at first because for the other games I didn't have a good idea of "what right looked like" But other games like respawnables & shadowgun are sort of the same deal even though I didn't really have a point of reference for those.
I know it's not a simple thing to explain and ask for, and I bet a lot of people won't even notice it, or think it's just me. What is needed is the joystick equivalent to "mouse acceleration" in windows though.
EDIT: and there needs to be (or a bigger) deadzone in the center, that might actually fix both problems (push minor values outwards of the center some). I have found some analog stick ghost movements when my thumbs are off them.

I wouldn't mind trying order and chaos with controller support. If you use the device spoofer just to get the app downloaded then turn it off will the games run? The issue is mostly just getting them onto the device isn't it?

Evo_Shift said:
I wouldn't mind trying order and chaos with controller support. If you use the device spoofer just to get the app downloaded then turn it off will the games run? The issue is mostly just getting them onto the device isn't it?
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The spoofer is only needed for the play store, from that point onwards the app itself has very little it can do to prevent running on your device.

Working app moves games to sd card automaticaly for m.o.j.o

Found an app called GL to SD that works on the mad catz m.o.j.o,it automatically transfers your current games to the installed external sd card,i can verify that the space is regained when the apps are moved to the sd.It's a great app and it is free to download in the google play store,this should put an end to having to use folder mount and direct the app to the folders besides the fact folder mount did not work for me at all,another great thing is in the app when the games are mounted it has a play button next to them just click and play your games.I am unsure what will occur if you uninstall it and the space then used is above the space required to store the additional games you add to it?
If someone would like to test the theory what happens if games exceed the internal storage size when using GLto SD then you remove GL to SD app then please let me know the result of that test.
I'd like to say that before i used this app i had a mere 5.xgb left and now i have 9.7x gb left in the internal storage big smile

PHYSC-1 said:
Found an app called GL to SD that works on the mad catz m.o.j.o,it automatically transfers your current games to the installed external sd card,i can verify that the space is regained when the apps are moved to the sd.It's a great app and it is free to download in the google play store,this should put an end to having to use folder mount and direct the app to the folders besides the fact folder mount did not work for me at all,another great thing is in the app when the games are mounted it has a play button next to them just click and play your games.I am unsure what will occur if you uninstall it and the space then used is above the space required to store the additional games you add to it?
If someone would like to test the theory what happens if games exceed the internal storage size when using GLto SD then you remove GL to SD app then please let me know the result of that test.
I'd like to say that before i used this app i had a mere 5.xgb left and now i have 9.7x gb left in the internal storage big smile
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Nice! I will certainly give this a try. Thanks for the heads up!

zektor said:
Nice! I will certainly give this a try. Thanks for the heads up!
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Not sure how many games you can add for free as noticed it has pro in the top right corner,so my guess is it may limit it to 2 games in free mode,just as you get in folder mount,i could be wrong for someone to teste this would be awesome.It's still good enough for me so far any way it has worked flawlessly with 2 games listed.

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Not sure how many games you can add for free as noticed it has pro in the top right corner,so my guess is it may limit it to 2 games in free mode,just as you get in folder mount,i could be wrong for someone to teste this would be awesome.It's still good enough for me so far any way it has worked flawlessly with 2 games listed.
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No, it works with multiple games. Pro version does not seem to add much more to the plate, but supports the developer. I have added 12 games. Not every game shows up on the list, but who cares. This saved me 10GB!
Edit: Pro version adds mount on boot and 100 custom slots. Not necessary to purchase, but I just did as I support devs who make good applications

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No, it works with multiple games. Pro version does not seem to add much more to the plate, but supports the developer. I have added 12 games. Not every game shows up on the list, but who cares. This saved me 10GB!
Edit: Pro version adds mount on boot and 100 custom slots. Not necessary to purchase, but I just did as I support devs who make good applications
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That's some great news,but a little bad with the missing games although there's not much that helps with storage in terms of apps that can read the m.o.j.o well.So it's a major bonus to have such a fine app for it.:laugh:

Careful with this app...there are some issues. I discovered tonight after moving a few games over that if you try to access your games before your HD is completely mounted (I rebooted and tried to launch a game before the HD was fully available) all mount settings revert back to the internal storage. In other words, no games would launch as they were looking once again at their original locations for installation. I tried to fix this in the app settings by re-pointing the games to their storage area on my HD, but the app would not allow navigation outside of the internal storage. Long story short I had to re-install my games. I probably could have copied the data and obb folders from my USB hd back to the internal storage, recovered game list and moved them again, but I got lazy and simply reinstalled the 6 or 7 games I moved previouslyy. That said, I think I'll stay away from this unless absolutely necessary, or until the dev fixes some bugs and provides a method to move items back AND forth to avoid any headaches.

zektor said:
Careful with this app...there are some issues. I discovered tonight after moving a few games over that if you try to access your games before your HD is completely mounted (I rebooted and tried to launch a game before the HD was fully available) all mount settings revert back to the internal storage. In other words, no games would launch as they were looking once again at their original locations for installation. I tried to fix this in the app settings by re-pointing the games to their storage area on my HD, but the app would not allow navigation outside of the internal storage. Long story short I had to re-install my games. I probably could have copied the data and obb folders from my USB hd back to the internal storage, recovered game list and moved them again, but I got lazy and simply reinstalled the 6 or 7 games I moved previouslyy. That said, I think I'll stay away from this unless absolutely necessary, or until the dev fixes some bugs and provides a method to move items back AND forth to avoid any headaches.
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There always seems to be a catch with the m.o.j.o in every way for me,the games for tegra 4 coming out in tegrazone now aren't compatible until kitkat 4.4 comes out for it either now.Found out shadowgun deadzone don't work says for tegra 3 devices only? It's getting to be a pain,i blame the os a bit and nvidia and mad catz for taking the [email protected] bringing kitkat onto the device.There doesn't seem any of the gaming to play when that's what it was designed for and sold for.
Now we have a problem with the only half decent storage moving app i could find for it,someone needs to make a bug free os for it or mad catz need telling straight to get kitkat out asap.As you can tell i'm venting my disgust.Thanks for letting us know about the app problem though it's good of you to test it.
What i'm prodominantly interested in right now is will a bluetooth headset use voice control on it? Or is that another feature we cannot use?

PHYSC-1 said:
There always seems to be a catch with the m.o.j.o in every way for me,the games for tegra 4 coming out in tegrazone now aren't compatible until kitkat 4.4 comes out for it either now.Found out shadowgun deadzone don't work says for tegra 3 devices only? It's getting to be a pain,i blame the os a bit and nvidia and mad catz for taking the [email protected] bringing kitkat onto the device.There doesn't seem any of the gaming to play when that's what it was designed for and sold for.
Now we have a problem with the only half decent storage moving app i could find for it,someone needs to make a bug free os for it or mad catz need telling straight to get kitkat out asap.As you can tell i'm venting my disgust.Thanks for letting us know about the app problem though it's good of you to test it.
What i'm prodominantly interested in right now is will a bluetooth headset use voice control on it? Or is that another feature we cannot use?
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This app problem is just that...an app problem. I do not think this particular issue is specific to the Mojo. It is just want to app did to me when the drive was not fully mounted. It needs to not allow a game launch until it detects the hard drive and saved folders are there.
There were a few versions of Shadowgun. A Tegra 3 only version and a "non-Tegra" version. I recall I had to run the "Non-Tegra" version on my Ericsson Xperia Play (due to no Tegra chip in it) and it worked fine. Looked exactly the same actually Look for the non-Tegra vesion.
If the game is designed for one chip (like the "Tegra 3 only" games) it is not the fault of the Tegra 4 or Mojo that they will not load. The game devs should be less restricting with the blocking, but I guess they are scared people will buy Tegra only games, try to run them on a Rockchip or some other processor and they will not work and people will be asking for refunds in droves
Nvidia is of course making these Tegra 4 games "exclusive" to their device first and foremost...it is their store and processor anyway I am sure you will see these games available for a wider array of Tegra 4 devices...that is when you start seeing more Tegra 4 devices on the market.It is still relatively new.

zektor said:
This app problem is just that...an app problem. I do not think this particular issue is specific to the Mojo. It is just want to app did to me when the drive was not fully mounted. It needs to not allow a game launch until it detects the hard drive and saved folders are there.
There were a few versions of Shadowgun. A Tegra 3 only version and a "non-Tegra" version. I recall I had to run the "Non-Tegra" version on my Ericsson Xperia Play (due to no Tegra chip in it) and it worked fine. Looked exactly the same actually Look for the non-Tegra vesion.
If the game is designed for one chip (like the "Tegra 3 only" games) it is not the fault of the Tegra 4 or Mojo that they will not load. The game devs should be less restricting with the blocking, but I guess they are scared people will buy Tegra only games, try to run them on a Rockchip or some other processor and they will not work and people will be asking for refunds in droves
Nvidia is of course making these Tegra 4 games "exclusive" to their device first and foremost...it is their store and processor anyway I am sure you will see these games available for a wider array of Tegra 4 devices...that is when you start seeing more Tegra 4 devices on the market.It is still relatively new.
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I know it's pretty scarce at present for games i have to say that,but these newer games should be a stark warning to mad catz being as they are 4.4 kitkat only so surely they need to think about moving quicker with the impending update they promise to release.
I have just found no bluetooth headset works on it that i have can't fathom it out,on there forum they put plug in mic in headphone port tried a standalone mic as well in there but no reaction voice controll wise and no audio over bluetooth?

It is still relatively new.
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New?
The Tegra 4 device Toshiba Excite Pro came out on June 4, 2013 on Amazone, so 11 mounts ago and you call that relatively new, sorry but in
the Android and computer world that mean it's old.
The Toshiba Excite Write came out on July 7, 2013
The NVIDIA SHIELD came out on July 31 2013
The HP Slate 21-k100 came out on August 22 2013.
The HP Slate S8-7600US came out on November 2 2013.
The HP Slate S7-4400US came out on November 17 2013.
The EVGA Tegra Note 7 came out on December 5 2013.
The Mad Catz M.O.J.O. came out on December 10 2013.
The Kobo Arc 10HD came out on January 11 2014.
The HP Slate 7 Extreme came out on January 14, 2014.
The ASUS Tablet TF701 came out on March 18 2014.
The Xiaomi Mi3 came out on April 2014.
that is when you start seeing more Tegra 4 devices on the market.
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And that all on the Amazon.com, That are 12 different Tegra 4 devices, so there are plenty of Tegra 4 devices available, and not a view, like you want us to think.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-phones-tablets.html

AmigaWolf said:
New?
The Tegra 4 device Toshiba Excite Pro came out on June 4, 2013 on Amazone, so 11 mounts ago and you call that relatively new, sorry but in
the Android and computer world that mean it's old.
The Toshiba Excite Write came out on July 7, 2013
The NVIDIA SHIELD came out on July 31 2013
The HP Slate 21-k100 came out on August 22 2013.
The HP Slate S8-7600US came out on November 2 2013.
The HP Slate S7-4400US came out on November 17 2013.
The EVGA Tegra Note 7 came out on December 5 2013.
The Mad Catz M.O.J.O. came out on December 10 2013.
The Kobo Arc 10HD came out on January 11 2014.
The HP Slate 7 Extreme came out on January 14, 2014.
The ASUS Tablet TF701 came out on March 18 2014.
The Xiaomi Mi3 came out on April 2014.
And that all on the Amazon.com, That are 12 different Tegra 4 devices, so there are plenty of Tegra 4 devices available, and not a view, like you want us to think.
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Cool list. You should contact Nvidia and all of these manufacturers individually and ask them why there are Tegra 4 Shield only exclusives, and why they have not been allowed to run on ALL of these alternate Tegra 4 devices. Thank you for helping to prove that this issue is not specifically a Mad Catz Mojo issue, but rather an issue of Tegra 4 supported games being opened up to other Tegra 4 devices.
Still, the fact is that Tegra 4 is still the most powerful chip on the market (don't start talking about Rockchips that have yet to be released please) and the Mojo is the most powerful set-top box available for purchase today. Point me to another (that IS available) and I am all ears. If you cannot do that, please stop hijacking threads with nonsense.
What was the purpose of your post? To point out that the Tegra 4 was not "brand new"? It is under a year old...I consider that new. I don't give a rats ass if you don't. The other chips out there currently are as old or older.
We are talking about Tegra 4 game support in this thread, so again, keep it on topic or simply go Guru meditate yourself.
And, it is "Amazon", not "Amazone". Please use your spell checker as you make these typing errors quite often.

zektor said:
Cool list. You should contact Nvidia and all of these manufacturers individually and ask them why there are Tegra 4 Shield only exclusives, and why they have not been allowed to run on ALL of these alternate Tegra 4 devices. Thank you for helping to prove that this issue is not specifically a Mad Catz Mojo issue, but rather an issue of Tegra 4 supported games being opened up to other Tegra 4 devices.
Still, the fact is that Tegra 4 is still the most powerful chip on the market (don't start talking about Rockchips that have yet to be released please) and the Mojo is the most powerful set-top box available for purchase today. Point me to another (that IS available) and I am all ears. If you cannot do that, please stop hijacking threads with nonsense.
What was the purpose of your post? To point out that the Tegra 4 was not "brand new"? It is under a year old...I consider that new. I don't give a rats ass if you don't. The other chips out there currently are as old or older.
We are talking about Tegra 4 game support in this thread, so again, keep it on topic or simply to Guru meditate.
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Please don't say b*llsh*t the Tegra 4 is NOT still the most powerful chip on the market, the GPU in the Snapdragon 600 is as fast as the Tegra 4, just
look at all the benchmarks out there, and the Snapdragon 800 and 801 is faster then the Tegra 4, so please don't tell fairy tales that the Tegra 4 is a Über
chip, because it's NOT.
And the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. set-top box is not the fastes available for purchase today, because the Amazon Fire Tv is about as fast as the Mad Catz
M.O.J.O.

AmigaWolf said:
Please don't say b*llsh*t the Tegra 4 is NOT still the most powerful chip on the market, the GPU in the Snapdragon 600 is as fast as the Tegra 4, just look at all the benchmarks out there, and the Snapdragon 800 and 801 is faster then the Tegra 4, so please don't tell fairy tales that the
Tegra 4 is a Über chip, because it's NOT.
And the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. set-top box is not the fastes available for purchase today, because the Amazon Fire Tv is about as fast as the Mad Catz
M.O.J.O.
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Please link to us the set top box that has this Snapdragon chip. We are not talking tablets or handhelds here. The Mojo is an android set top box, so you need to show people that there exists a more powerful SET TOP box. The Fire TV is not it, sorry.
And again we are off of the topic because of you. Please stick with the flow of the topic. We last we were discussing why Tegra 4 games have not been opened up to other devices, in case you forgot.

zektor said:
Please link to us the set top box that has this Snapdragon chip. We are not talking tablets or handhelds here. The Mojo is an android set top box, so you need to show people that there exists a more powerful SET TOP box. The Fire TV is not it, sorry.
And again we are off of the topic because of you. Please stick with the flow of the topic. We last we were discussing why Tegra 4 games have not been opened up to other devices, in case you forgot.
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Amazon Fire Tv
Amazon Fire Game Controller
Yes the Amazon Fire TV is it, they even tel that, it's also a game console, and it have absolutely no problems playing good 3D games, they all run
fluently.

AmigaWolf said:
Amazon Fire Tv
Amazon Fire Game Controller
Yes the Amazon Fire TV is it, they even tel that, it's also a game console, and it have absolutely no problems playing good 3D games, they all run
fluently.
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No, no, no. I am very sorry. You are not convincing anybody...and you are not staying on topic.
While you are at it (ruining threads that is), why don't you tell people what the downsides of the FireTV are:
1. Proprietary custom android. Forget Playstore..you can't get it!
2. No root!
3. No sideloading!
4. No keyboard support!
5. Sub par performance compared to Tegra 4!
6. No support for Tegra accelerated games (no Tegra!)
You were probably the guy who told everyone to buy a Radio Shack Coco3 at the height of the C64 era. Go away now.

zektor said:
No, no, no. I am very sorry. You are not convincing anybody...and you are not staying on topic.
While you are at it (ruining threads that is), why don't you tell people what the downsides of the FireTV are:
1. Proprietary custom android. Forget Playstore..you can't get it!
2. No root!
3. No sideloading!
4. No keyboard support!
5. Sub par performance compared to Tegra 4!
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How is it living under a rock?
And on this XDA forum you can change allot on the Amazon Fire TV.
It does not need Root to play all the games, not like the Mad Catz M.O.J.O.
YES it has keyboard support.
No you do not NEED Google Play, or do iOS devices also have Goole Play?
Performance is good, look for yourself on Youtube and ALL the other websites.

AmigaWolf said:
How is it living under a rock?
And on this XDA forum you can change allot on the Amazon Fire TV.
It does not need Root to play all the games, not like the Mad Catz M.O.J.O.
YES it has keyboard support.
No you do not NEED Google Play, or do iOS devices also have Goole Play?
Performance is good, look for yourself on Youtube and ALL the other websites.
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Here is a link to the Mojo for you to repurchase it:
http://www.amazon.com/M-O-J-O-Micro-Console-Android-Not-Machine-Specific/dp/B00FM5IS48/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1400013378&sr=8-1&keywords=mad+catz+mojo
Don't worry, I won't tell anyone you repurchased it after talking so much smack.

I have to say if you look at the time it took for large numbers of games to emerge on the tegra 3 specifically for a tegra 3,well then it is absolutely no surprise that it appears the same is happening with the tegra 4.It does take time,i am for one loosing patience but i am sitting here waiting none the less although i have to say venting about it as well,lol.
So it's i think more a case of kitkat fixes a lot like for shield and i am assuming with the m.o.j.o,and maybe that is why they are taking their time, not to mention the ouya everywhere project,i imagine it's going to be in preperation for a huge update which may introduce better controller compatability as well i hope it does any way we need that big time to.

AmigaWolf said:
Amazon Fire Tv
Amazon Fire Game Controller
Yes the Amazon Fire TV is it, they even tel that, it's also a game console, and it have absolutely no problems playing good 3D games, they all run
fluently.
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By the way, Antutu benchmark scored 20561 on the FireTV according to this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Md5_P_WDzI
I just ran Antutu on the Mojo and it scored 31552. Yeah, no....FireTV is NOT more powerful. Still waiting on your list of Snapdragon set top boxes buddy. Please show us a set top box that can outperform the Mojo. I am waiting!
And, here is a YouTube video showing 31724 score on the Mojo, just to back up my claim:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6R8HvGWy4k
Hmm, 20,000 vs 30,000. FireTV is better, eh? Bah. And, it is also NOT a games console. Amazon says so themselves
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/amazon-fire-tv-is-absolutely-not-a-game-console/1100-6418731/
If everyone listened to you, they would end up with sub-par equipment. You should not even have the "Amiga" in your name, it is an embarrassment to the Amiga. Please rename yourself to "STwolf". That would be more adequate.

zektor said:
Please show us a set top box that can outperform the Mojo. I am waiting!
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The mojo isn't the most powerful, especially now that steambox is coming out.. but it's the most powerful ANDROID topset box.
zektor said:
You should not even have the "Amiga" in your name, it is an embarrassment to the Amiga. Please rename yourself to "STwolf". That would be more adequate.
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LOL Hard!.. that's funny
@AmigaWolf, please get a fireTV and let us know after a week or two how you like it... don't spam here if you don't have one.. really
I know your very demanding (from your tech), so I hope you don't buy something that's useless to you, just for the sack of saving $50
Good luck.

I just got a new Shield tablet, what are the first things I should do?

Hey guys,
First of all, Im a new proud owner of the LTE 32GB Shield Tablet with the Nvidia controller after watching some youtube videos.
I was such a noob that while I was searching the web, I kept getting Nvidia Shiled and Nvidia Shield tablet confused! I didnt realize that their names were so similar which made searching for Roms compatibility a bit difficult.
Some of things I noticed:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
2. Tried several of my App games but many didnt recognize the controller. Bummer.
-Need for speed hot pursuit didnt
-MC4 right analog wont turn my head so its impossible to aim
3. Installed PPSSPP so far the best emulator so far on the tablet. The aspect ratio seems to be very similar to PSP so it makes sense.
4. Snes 9x is good for the SNES roms but I dont know what happened to that other SNES emulator that I downloaded many months ago but no longer appears under my account. I forget the name of it but it was way better than this SNES 9x emulator.
5. Great overall tablet. A bit on the heavy side. Power button is probably the worst I've ever experienced. However, once I get the case, Im sure I wont need it as much.
6. I have a library of games on steam but disappointed that I have to rebuy half life 2 and portal to play it on my tablet.
7. Lack of library games on the Nvidia Hub.
Questions:
1. Do you guys keep your tab on at all times or do you turn it off at night?
2. Are there other android games I can use the controller with? If so, how do I get it so the buttons are configured correctly?
Thank you so much!

First thing? Buy the cover, it's awesome. There's magnets in it so it does't flop around open or closed and when you prop it up, the magnets hold the wedge in place.
But yea the power button sucks. First thing I did was upgrade to Lollipop then second thing I did was downgrade to Kitkat lol. No xposed and the single notification pull down were the deal breakers.
Haven't tried too much gaming but I do keep mine on at night, it's my alarm clock. Battery is great for me, my thing says I'm good for 5.5 hours use of battery and 5 days of standby.
Root it of course too There's a volume mod I found somewhere, for me Netflix is very quiet. Plus you need to unlock write privileges for the SD card.
64/128 gb SD card obviously too.

Tastycakess said:
First thing? Buy the cover, it's awesome. There's magnets in it so it does't flop around open or closed and when you prop it up, the magnets hold the wedge in place.
But yea the power button sucks. First thing I did was upgrade to Lollipop then second thing I did was downgrade to Kitkat lol. No xposed and the single notification pull down were the deal breakers.
Haven't tried too much gaming but I do keep mine on at night, it's my alarm clock. Battery is great for me, my thing says I'm good for 5.5 hours use of battery and 5 days of standby.
Root it of course too There's a volume mod I found somewhere, for me Netflix is very quiet. Plus you need to unlock write privileges for the SD card.
64/128 gb SD card obviously too.
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Unlock write privilages? How?
Sent from my Nexus 5

malhaarkale said:
Unlock write privilages? How?
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If you are in kitat and rooted (towelroot, easy...), I use:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix&hl=en
I think Lollipop needs to mature, so I will wait to 5.0.1, I hope soon...

You should never root a device as soon as you get it. Wait a few days first to make sure everything works before you start tinkering.

I rooted my device as soon as it was powered on. I get your point but without root I don't have much use for the tablet

mcord11758 said:
I rooted my device as soon as it was powered on. I get your point but without root I don't have much use for the tablet
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Same here but in the case of the Nvidia Shiled, I chose to suffer a bit to wait out any issues that might come up before rooting it.

mcord11758 said:
I rooted my device as soon as it was powered on. I get your point but without root I don't have much use for the tablet
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Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie

Ruturaj001 said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie
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Reasons for rooting vary. For this Tablet these are the things I needed root for so far
Using titanium backup to restore app data for games my kids play
Installing modified file to allow my ouya controller to pair and have buttons mapped
Installing folder mount to fix writing to external sd and move allot of my larger game files to external which is 64gb vs 16 internal. I would already be over my internal capacity without this
In the future if nvidia leaves issues in firmware that a developer here can fix it is nice to be able to have the freedom to try

xelemental said:
Hey guys,
First of all, Im a new proud owner of the LTE 32GB Shield Tablet with the Nvidia controller after watching some youtube videos.
I was such a noob that while I was searching the web, I kept getting Nvidia Shiled and Nvidia Shield tablet confused! I didnt realize that their names were so similar which made searching for Roms compatibility a bit difficult.
Some of things I noticed:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
2. Tried several of my App games but many didnt recognize the controller. Bummer.
-Need for speed hot pursuit didnt
-MC4 right analog wont turn my head so its impossible to aim
3. Installed PPSSPP so far the best emulator so far on the tablet. The aspect ratio seems to be very similar to PSP so it makes sense.
4. Snes 9x is good for the SNES roms but I dont know what happened to that other SNES emulator that I downloaded many months ago but no longer appears under my account. I forget the name of it but it was way better than this SNES 9x emulator.
5. Great overall tablet. A bit on the heavy side. Power button is probably the worst I've ever experienced. However, once I get the case, Im sure I wont need it as much.
6. I have a library of games on steam but disappointed that I have to rebuy half life 2 and portal to play it on my tablet.
7. Lack of library games on the Nvidia Hub.
Questions:
1. Do you guys keep your tab on at all times or do you turn it off at night?
2. Are there other android games I can use the controller with? If so, how do I get it so the buttons are configured correctly?
Thank you so much!
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the controller is mappable to many games,hold the back button in the hame you have selected and then drag and drop controls and you can playba?lt pf gamesthis way,but you probably know this now though or it will download specific cpntrols from the web, this tablet is excellent,cant really fault it,imnot rooting this this time i have two other devjces both roooted amd running custom stuff but i have not found a specific reasom why i would want to root this time,i lobe thetjing the way it is.
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xelemental said:
Hey guys,
First of all, Im a new proud owner of the LTE 32GB Shield Tablet with the Nvidia controller after watching some youtube videos.
I was such a noob that while I was searching the web, I kept getting Nvidia Shiled and Nvidia Shield tablet confused! I didnt realize that their names were so similar which made searching for Roms compatibility a bit difficult.
Some of things I noticed:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
2. Tried several of my App games but many didnt recognize the controller. Bummer.
-Need for speed hot pursuit didnt
-MC4 right analog wont turn my head so its impossible to aim
3. Installed PPSSPP so far the best emulator so far on the tablet. The aspect ratio seems to be very similar to PSP so it makes sense.
4. Snes 9x is good for the SNES roms but I dont know what happened to that other SNES emulator that I downloaded many months ago but no longer appears under my account. I forget the name of it but it was way better than this SNES 9x emulator.
5. Great overall tablet. A bit on the heavy side. Power button is probably the worst I've ever experienced. However, once I get the case, Im sure I wont need it as much.
6. I have a library of games on steam but disappointed that I have to rebuy half life 2 and portal to play it on my tablet.
7. Lack of library games on the Nvidia Hub.
Questions:
1. Do you guys keep your tab on at all times or do you turn it off at night?
2. Are there other android games I can use the controller with? If so, how do I get it so the buttons are configured correctly?
Thank you so much!
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the controller is mappable to many games,hold the back button in the game you have selected and then drag and drop controls and you can play a lot of games this way,but you probably know this now though or it will download specific controls from the web, this tablet is excellent,cant really fault it,im not rooting this this time i have two other devjces both roooted amd running custom stuff but i have not found a specific reason why i would want to root this time,i love the thing the way it is.

Ruturaj001 said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie
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Because I can
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact using Tapatalk

xelemental said:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
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How did you upgrade right after getting it??? I'm not being prompted for a system update and it tells me there are no further updates and developers.nvidia.com doesn't even have them posted...

I got Lollipop on day #1 ...which for me was back in November. 5.0 has been out for a while...
<Edit>
... That being said ... oh gawd I miss KitKat. Lollipop was a laughable upgrade. I don't see any major performance improvement. The single notification is a mess. Memory management seems worse. And I hate to say it but I miss xposed.
I don't feel like the tablet is my own anymore. Google has made the experience just so generic. Kind of Apple-ish. Maybe if they are ever able to port xposed to ART, it'd be better. I don't know why, but somehow, I doubt it's going to happen.
I'll probably downgrade again soon, but don't know that nvidia will continue to support KitKat anymore.

Ruturaj001 said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie
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Some apps (Tasker, Titanium Backup, etc) require root.
Having root also allows you to uninstall the bloatware that eats up the storage you paid for.
"Because I can" is a valid answer as well. If you can't root it, you don't own it.

Get yourself a controller mount ASAP and you will love the tablet.

xelemental said:
Hey guys,
First of all, Im a new proud owner of the LTE 32GB Shield Tablet with the Nvidia controller after watching some youtube videos.
I was such a noob that while I was searching the web, I kept getting Nvidia Shiled and Nvidia Shield tablet confused! I didnt realize that their names were so similar which made searching for Roms compatibility a bit difficult.
Some of things I noticed:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
2. Tried several of my App games but many didnt recognize the controller. Bummer.
-Need for speed hot pursuit didnt
-MC4 right analog wont turn my head so its impossible to aim
3. Installed PPSSPP so far the best emulator so far on the tablet. The aspect ratio seems to be very similar to PSP so it makes sense.
4. Snes 9x is good for the SNES roms but I dont know what happened to that other SNES emulator that I downloaded many months ago but no longer appears under my account. I forget the name of it but it was way better than this SNES 9x emulator.
5. Great overall tablet. A bit on the heavy side. Power button is probably the worst I've ever experienced. However, once I get the case, Im sure I wont need it as much.
6. I have a library of games on steam but disappointed that I have to rebuy half life 2 and portal to play it on my tablet.
7. Lack of library games on the Nvidia Hub.
Questions:
1. Do you guys keep your tab on at all times or do you turn it off at night?
2. Are there other android games I can use the controller with? If so, how do I get it so the buttons are configured correctly?
Thank you so much!
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Amazon sells a great SmartShell Case by Fintie and I highly recommend grabbing one!!

RiffyDivine said:
Get yourself a controller mount ASAP and you will love the tablet.
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Do you have a recommendation?

Art blows dalvik away in performance gains. I like the new drop down. But I have been using lollipop since June. I just got this thing today and the thing runs circles around the nexus 9. The big thing lollipop brings is a ton more security checks.
Sent from my SHIELD Tablet using XDA Free mobile app

ailima said:
Do you have a recommendation?
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The Ipega http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZEO576/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is amazing and since it can do both orientations it wins every time. However if you got the offical controller there is always http://www.shapeways.com/model/2843...controller.html?li=shop-results&materialId=25 which fit perfectly and does a very good job but will only hold it in widescreen which makes it a bit weird to do DS games on it.

RiffyDivine said:
The Ipega http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZEO576/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is amazing and since it can do both orientations it wins every time. However if you got the offical controller there is always http://www.shapeways.com/model/2843...controller.html?li=shop-results&materialId=25 which fit perfectly and does a very good job but will only hold it in widescreen which makes it a bit weird to do DS games on it.
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Thanks!
I've seen the Shapeways one and have almost bought it in a couple occasions but it seems like the weight of the tablet would be uncomfortable with it being so far on top. The Ipega one looks interesting. I like my Shield controller though. How does the controller portion compare?