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[Q] New on LG , and i want to know some things about the softwares

Hi:
My brother have bought an LG G2 , and i am learning about it's modes , software , and other things.
I knew that the official softwares came like KDZ files , and i have downloaded the LG Flash Tool.
But about the softwares i know nothing.
In SONY softwares , every software came with all languages but may some will be hided depend on the software region.
In SAMSUNG you have to download the software that represent your region so you can get your language.
Please help me answer those questions:
1- Can i flash any KDZ on the Phone like all D802 softwares?
2- Does the all softwares include all languages like SONY?
3- How do i know the software build number and the android version? like "D80220C_00" what android version does it stand on? and how to know if softwares like "D80220A_00" and "D80220D_00" is newer or older?
4- I saw a links like those: http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=358635050100008
Does those links view the lastest new software of my phone that it's 100% compatible with it? i mean if i exchanged the IMEI with my real phone IMEI.

1. You can flash any KDZ for your g2 D802 model so dont flash other model kdz on your brothers phone, dont break it
2. I believe that it also has all the languages.
3. Build number is 20C and android version you can find in about phone. As far as I know LG higheres the build versions from like v10 to v20 if they update to an higher android version. So v10x is jellybean and v20x is kitkat.
I am not sure how to know the older and or newer ones, I just recommend to update your phone with lg pc suite or with that link from 4.
If you enter your imei then the link should appear with the latest software version for your phone.
5. Like I said before its your brothers phone so take it carefully, read everything good and keep it safe :good:
Btw, there are 32gb and 16gb device kdz. If you flash an 16gb kdz on an 32gb then it will only show 16. Vice versa I dont know what would happen, I think it will not be good or it will even not go.

wulsic said:
1. You can flash any KDZ for your g2 D802 model so dont flash other model kdz on your brothers phone, dont break it
2. I believe that it also has all the languages.
3. Build number is 20C and android version you can find in about phone. As far as I know LG higheres the build versions from like v10 to v20 if they update to an higher android version. So v10x is jellybean and v20x is kitkat.
I am not sure how to know the older and or newer ones, I just recommend to update your phone with lg pc suite or with that link from 4.
If you enter your imei then the link should appear with the latest software version for your phone.
5. Like I said before its your brothers phone so take it carefully, read everything good and keep it safe :good:
Btw, there are 32gb and 16gb device kdz. If you flash an 16gb kdz on an 32gb then it will only show 16. Vice versa I dont know what would happen, I think it will not be good or it will even not go.
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Thanks!
You helped me so much
the only thing that still didn't understood that the version , because like what you said , 10x and 20x are the version so higher number is the newer software , but what about the x? in my brother phone it's 20C that shown on the link after entering the IMEI , so 20A and 20D are for other models or regions? or older and newer?
And what does SUFFIX number do? is it important?

I dont know exactly or 20 A is newer or D just watch the release date of it. With the x I mean like some version D or A.
I dont know really about the suffix number if it is on that url but I can tell you that you dont need to change your stock to another version since the most versions are like fixing small things, just wait for ota's.
Again the x I mean like this.
There is android 4.4.1 4.4.2 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 and gapps are for 4.4.X so also for the sub versions which mostly contains some bugfixes. But as far as I know on LG stock there arent so many bugs, on the g2 I am not sure since I dont even own that phone.

wulsic said:
I dont know exactly or 20 A is newer or D just watch the release date of it. With the x I mean like some version D or A.
I dont know really about the suffix number if it is on that url but I can tell you that you dont need to change your stock to another version since the most versions are like fixing small things, just wait for ota's.
Again the x I mean like this.
There is android 4.4.1 4.4.2 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 and gapps are for 4.4.X so also for the sub versions which mostly contains some bugfixes. But as far as I know on LG stock there arent so many bugs, on the g2 I am not sure since I dont even own that phone.
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[Q] D80220F vs 80220D or C . Is there any difference ?

hello
I have an open EU g2 and after using several custom roms i wanted to revert back to stock.
I used the LG IMEI tool and it told me that the phone is an open EU version . The download link for the firmware they suggested is for 80220C .
Yet, i see that there are open EU firmwares available for D or even F
is there anything that the F firmware brings ? Performance improvements etc ? Or should i stick to the C one as recommended by LG ?
This brings me to ask a few questions :
1. Since it's an open eu phone, shouldn't they all have the same software versions? I understand for carrier or country specific phones to have different firmware versions depending on the development speed etc, but why would Open EU d802 phones have different firmwares ? Note that if i use the default C one ... OTA says there are no updates available.
2. I see most custom roms are based on the 20F versions. Makes me wonder if it's because it's the latest one ... or if it brings any improvements ( even small ones )
So what do you say ... should i use C or F ? Any reason why ?
thanks guys

i searched the web for a changelog, nothing.
seems that lg does not give changelogs
perhaps someone knows the difference and has some advice on which one to use

1. I don't know, connect your phone to your PC and check for updates maybe like that. Sometimes those firmwares are with specific bug fixes for one country and probably also with other small bugfixes but sometimes its like country limited even if its open eu,
2.I think that 20F might be the latest,Stablest software version but I am not sure about it.
My advice is to just stay normal on stock and or check with your imei checker and maybe use that firmware.
Since the bugfixes are probably not a big list or noticeable for the average phone user it isn't so Important for small version differences or you gotta be an hardcore Fan.
I suggest to maybe look for custom roms which are using stock as base but only flash that stuff if you have the basic knowledge about flashing and can read carefully

Well here's my two cents:
The C and D versions are the second kitkat upgrade for different regions. They SHOULD be equal, and both of these stock images have certain bug fixes as the "fake" bluetooth drain in battery stats, fixed headset hissing issue and added knock code.
The F version, I believe, is a bugfix for 20D. 20D had issues with VoIP such as skype and Viber which would not function properly. 20F has not been pushed out to all users of 20D.
If you intend on keeping your device, flash 20F IMO. BUT
An important note: If you plan on SELLING your device, then flash 20C which is the one linked to your IMEI. Because you won't be able to get updates if your current software version doesn't match the one LG has linked with your IMEI.

vPro97 said:
Well here's my two cents:
The C and D versions are the second kitkat upgrade for different regions. They SHOULD be equal, and both of these stock images have certain bug fixes as the "fake" bluetooth drain in battery stats, fixed headset hissing issue and added knock code.
The F version, I believe, is a bugfix for 20D. 20D had issues with VoIP such as skype and Viber which would not function properly. 20F has not been pushed out to all users of 20D.
If you intend on keeping your device, flash 20F IMO. BUT
An important note: If you plan on SELLING your device, then flash 20C which is the one linked to your IMEI. Because you won't be able to get updates if your current software version doesn't match the one LG has linked with your IMEI.
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thanks mate. i will flash 20F
regarding to the last thing you said ... yes i figured that the official software is the one that should be used when sending the phone to waranty or selling it
more than that ,... i found something interesting . I flashed several firmwares and ALL OF THEM made te status in download mode as "ROOTED" even though i was not rooted.
The only way to display unrooted in download mode is to flash the 20C firmware for my device. So it is obvious that this is the "correct" firmware for this particular phone.

[Q] Upgrading to Kitkat

I had recently bought LG G2 D802 phone this month and I wanted to upgrade it to possibly Android 4.4 Kitkat from Android 4.2 Jellybean So, I went to 'Update Center > Software Update in phone settings.
The update is known as:
"v20a-MAR-07-2014 (534.84 MB)"
Firstly, I would like to know whether this Kitkat or lollipop or whatever update it is?
After a few megabytes of downloading, the native download manager reports an error "Cannot download" and there's no way to resume it from where it left. I have tried this process many times and every time it failed and I am sure there's nothing wrong with my Wi-fi.
While I was looking for an alternative way to manually grab this update via PC, I tried "LG PC Suite" to check for updates which said that: "2 upgrades are available" and the latest version is lollipop as the picture in attachment shows. but I only wish to upgrade to Kitkat OS. Is possible that I just disconnect my phone from PC Suite after it finishes applying only just one upgrade and not the lollipop upgrade?

Most likely it's Kitkat. Lollipop for G2 is named like V30A, V30B, V30D and so on. You can download KDZ file for your device and flash it.
URL: http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=123123123
You have to replace 123123123 with your device's IMEI.

wojtal said:
Most likely it's Kitkat. Lollipop for G2 is named like V30A, V30B, V30D and so on. You can download KDZ file for your device and flash it.
URL: http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=123123123
You have to replace 123123123 with your device's IMEI.
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You can only download the newest available KDZ on the linked page. Probably not KK, since it's not the newest available for the D802.
Search around a bit. You should be able to find the KK KDZ for the region you want linked somewhere on xda. Just refer to the sticky post regarding flashing a KDZ.
And no you shouldn't disconnect your device during the update. Also the DL is failing because KK isn't available through LG servers anymore.
Happy upgrading

lusseMagnet said:
You can only download the newest available KDZ on the linked page. Probably not KK, since it's not the newest available for the D802.
Search around a bit. You should be able to find the KK KDZ for the region you want linked somewhere on xda. Just refer to the sticky post regarding flashing a KDZ.
And no you shouldn't disconnect your device during the update. Also the DL is failing because KK isn't available through LG servers anymore.
Happy upgrading
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It sounds like a bad news that they have taken down the link from their Official website. So far the phone is working just fine and I am not sure if I should even update the phone to anything since many of the users from the forums all over the internet (as I have read) are complaining about how the updates ruined their phone (I assume especially the G2) and brought so many disappointing bugs to deal with.

purplex88 said:
It sounds like a bad news that they have taken down the link from their Official website. So far the phone is working just fine and I am not sure if I should even update the phone to anything since many of the users from the forums all over the internet (as I have read) are complaining about how the updates ruined their phone (I assume especially the G2) and brought so many disappointing bugs to deal with.
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AFAIK most bugs plaguing KK got fixed in the end. I remember downgrading from KK to JB because of some audio issues. They are now not present anymore, and KK is as stable as it gets. It even performed better than JB (the ui used to animate way too quickly so it looked laggy, and fixed the microstuttering in most apps).
I would personally recommend KK. Have had some problems with LP, where it wouldn't run as smoothly and the battery life was a tad worse, so now I'm back on KK.

Lollipop vs KitKat on YotaPhone 2

I have read some reports about bad battery life with Lollipop. Is this true?
KitKat has nicer system UI regarding the use of E-ink screen because KitKat menus, settings etc. use darker backgrounds than Lollipop. That looks better on E-ink on black YotaPhone 2.
What are your thoughts on KitKat vs Lollipop with YotaPhone 2?
I also read some reports about Wifi issues with Lollipop but maybe they were relating to wrong radio being flashed, I don't know.

sonof said:
I have read some reports about bad battery life with Lollipop. Is this true?
KitKat has nicer system UI regarding the use of E-ink screen because KitKat menus, settings etc. use darker backgrounds than Lollipop. That looks better on E-ink on black YotaPhone 2.
What are your thoughts on KitKat vs Lollipop with YotaPhone 2?
I also read some reports about Wifi issues with Lollipop but maybe they were relating to wrong radio being flashed, I don't know.
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Your post just crossed mine (http://forum.xda-developers.com/yotaphone-one/general/battery-life-ru-134-firmware-using-app-t3490355) but for me battery life on Lollipop is great and I have no WiFi issues. The latest RU firmware also has the september 2016 security update. For me it is Lollipop all the way.

Where did you download the latest RU firmware?
In here:
ftp://fw.ydevices.com/YotaPhone2/Firmwares/RU/
The latest is 5.0.0-RU1.1.124.zip
Where to find 134?

sonof said:
Where did you download the latest RU firmware?
In here:
ftp://fw.ydevices.com/YotaPhone2/Firmwares/RU/
The latest is 5.0.0-RU1.1.124.zip
Where to find 134?
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134 is indeed not yet up on the FTP site but if you flash your phone to the 124 version using YotaFlasher it will then update itself to 134 using OTA.

I hate lollipop myself and going to flash back to KitKat toninght.

spinecki said:
I hate lollipop myself and going to flash back to KitKat toninght.
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Why? What problems do you have?
I've noticed my phone got laggy after 3 months or so on Lolopop, but I never used KK.

JernejKobal said:
Why? What problems do you have?
I've noticed my phone got laggy after 3 months or so on Lolopop, but I never used KK.
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I hate LP dialer and menus. I just loved KK and that's mostly why I want to go back

spinecki said:
I hate LP dialer and menus. I just loved KK and that's mostly why I want to go back
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I decided to go back KK but i could't find the stock firmwares for Turkey. Yes i can use RU or EU firmware but i am not sure for finding the right baseband for me. Any idea will be appreciated?

sozen said:
I decided to go back KK but i could't find the stock firmwares for Turkey. Yes i can use RU or EU firmware but i am not sure for finding the right baseband for me. Any idea will be appreciated?
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Both will work. Baseband is not a firmware thing.

Am going to downgrade from Marshmallow to Kitkat.
There are issues such as more battery drain than its supposed to be, phone overheats too much (never happened on kitkat before) and Marshmallow's white theme makes me sick as there is no option to change it to dark so it doesn't really fit in Yotaphone 2 unless you have white version which is pretty rare one. YotaStore apps arent compatibile with MM 6.0.1 so..
There are new things that are improved or added but still wont use it

Sukalya said:
Am going to downgrade from Marshmallow to Kitkat.
There are issues such as more battery drain than its supposed to be, phone overheats too much (never happened on kitkat before) and Marshmallow's white theme makes me sick as there is no option to change it to dark so it doesn't really fit in Yotaphone 2 unless you have white version which is pretty rare one. YotaStore apps arent compatibile with MM 6.0.1 so..
There are new things that are improved or added but still wont use it
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I have used mine with Nova launcher which allows you to make dark theme. But I am still going to do the same for especially overheating problem. Indeed i've faced lots of problems with MM:
- Overheating on almost every situation including EPD reading/browsing/maps etc.
- if (esp. extreme) YotaEnergy is activated, Mobile Network is killed/blocked until restart the phone. Disabling YotaEnergy again doesn't solve the problem
- EPD screen lock insensibility randomly
- very restricted settings on MM
- etc.
Update1:
I have installed KK (4.4.3-S01-003-RU1.0.3.61a). Findings:
- battery seems a little bit ok compared MM
- overheating problem is same i think
- EPD screen resolution is awfull
- As known, all apps are outdated
- KK interface is also offensive compared with my old KitKat installed Optimus G Pro
So, i have to try Lollipop
Update2:
I have finally installed LP (5.0.0-RU1.1.134 ). It is ok:
- battery is optimum, there is no drain and stable
- no unexpected overheating, it is ok!
- EPD screen resolution is good
- I wish i could launch the color screen directly from EPD screen like on MM shortcut. For EPD, MM is better.

Unfortunately even after downgrading to kitkat then update to lollipop (RU or EU) I still get the overheating issues
Before upgrading to MM it was fine, but from that point it began to overheat and I can't get it to stay cool again.

bohwaz said:
Unfortunately even after downgrading to kitkat then update to lollipop (RU or EU) I still get the overheating issues
Before upgrading to MM it was fine, but from that point it began to overheat and I can't get it to stay cool again.
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You are right! After a few week trying, heating problem seems same. Because of that i have decreased CPU clock Frequency to 1267MHz+conservative. The heating problem decreases nearly fifty fifty.

bohwaz said:
Unfortunately even after downgrading to kitkat then update to lollipop (RU or EU) I still get the overheating issues
Before upgrading to MM it was fine, but from that point it began to overheat and I can't get it to stay cool again.
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If you want to try the first stock rom which is preinstalled 4.4.3-S01-003-ME1.0.3.61a for me, i can provide you a full TWRP backup (system, data, boot).

newbie question about versions and security updates

so I am all new with this LG updating their devices thing as this is my first LG smartphone, so this may probably sound silly
I read autoprimes thread about 10f stock (thanks for that btw, great starting point for newbies like me!) and had a look at his twitter account where I saw he linked an official LG site about security updates . Going over there and reading up it seems pretty obvious to me that getting all these google patches seemed a very good way to go, yet my H870 refuses to give me any new updates saying it is uptodate with the april version (the 10f autoprime has in his thread it seems). Yet there is this newer thread from westwood24 talking about a 10I version for the H870, yet even LG Bridge installed tells me that my 10f is the most current thing.
So is westwoods version either not really a stock thing because its made by himself into a 10I (from f) or is both my OTA update service and LG bridge blatently lieing to me about a new version?
Or is there a third "truth" I simply dont get because I am a relative android newbie?

Vaxxus said:
so I am all new with this LG updating their devices thing as this is my first LG smartphone, so this may probably sound silly
I read autoprimes thread about 10f stock (thanks for that btw, great starting point for newbies like me!) and had a look at his twitter account where I saw he linked an official LG site about security updates . Going over there and reading up it seems pretty obvious to me that getting all these google patches seemed a very good way to go, yet my H870 refuses to give me any new updates saying it is uptodate with the april version (the 10f autoprime has in his thread it seems). Yet there is this newer thread from westwood24 talking about a 10I version for the H870, yet even LG Bridge installed tells me that my 10f is the most current thing.
So is westwoods version either not really a stock thing because its made by himself into a 10I (from f) or is both my OTA update service and LG bridge blatently lieing to me about a new version?
Or is there a third "truth" I simply dont get because I am a relative android newbie?
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Updates are not only related to the model, but also to region and brand. The 10L update with June patch was available for Vodafone branded phone in Europe and few others.
This lead to the question: where is your H870 from?
In any case you can use lgup+uppercut and flash the 10L kdz if you really have a H870 (without any letters at the end)

my current "Software Version" string says V10f-EUR-XX and I bought it from a local retail store, so (to my knowledge) no provider attached.
the model number under hardware info says LG-H870.

Vaxxus said:
my current "Software Version" string says V10f-EUR-XX and I bought it from a local retail store, so (to my knowledge) no provider attached.
the model number under hardware info says LG-H870.
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And you are from? As i stated before also the region/nation is important when we speak about updates, anyway you can manually update with lgup as i said before =)

Killua96 said:
And you are from? As i stated before also the region/nation is important when we speak about updates, anyway you can manually update with lgup as i said before =)
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sorry missed that, I am from germany.

Vaxxus said:
sorry missed that, I am from germany.
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Seems like is no yet avalable for your specific model, other users confirmed it Here and Here
You can track daily lg updates looking Here every 6 hours, wait for a H870 Europe Germany or something like that.

I had the same thing like you... but I am rooted do I dirty flashed westwoods version because official updates won't work anyway. No problems found so far. If you have root too, fash it
PS: swiss version heer

odysseus84 said:
I had the same thing like you... but I am rooted do I dirty flashed westwoods version because official updates won't work anyway. No problems found so far. If you have root too, fash it
PS: swiss version heer
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mine isnt rooted yet, I stopped after I ordered the unlock bootcode from lg and read about that it stops OTA in generell. But seeing that they are none coming, or coming in a unbelievable slow pace I might as well just get it over with, head home and start flashing