[Q] [Help] OTG support for NTFS HDD without root? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

It would seem Note 3 cannot read NTFS HDD using USB OTG cables, and the solutions in this forum usually require root access.
Might have missed something, or maybe someone here knows - is there a way for my Note 3 to be able to read 500GB or 1TB HDD without rooting my phone and with just my stock ROM? Are there any adapters or other gadgets allowing that?
Thanks in advance!

dknight178 said:
It would seem Note 3 cannot read NTFS HDD using USB OTG cables, and the solutions in this forum usually require root access.
Might have missed something, or maybe someone here knows - is there a way for my Note 3 to be able to read 500GB or 1TB HDD without rooting my phone and with just my stock ROM? Are there any adapters or other gadgets allowing that?
Thanks in advance!
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Yes there is, format your HD to FAT32 or exFAT

Of course, this would work for my own HDD, but what about if I'll just borrow HDD and I don't have my laptop at that time? I can't ask him/her to reformat the HDD.
Spere said:
Yes there is, format your HD to FAT32 or exFAT
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dknight178 said:
Of course, this would work for my own HDD, but what about if I'll just borrow HDD and I don't have my laptop at that time? I can't ask him/her to reformat the HDD.
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Not 100% sure since I have never used HDD on my phone/tab, but I think NTFS is not possible without root. At least never heard anyone got working NTFS HDD without root.

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my iconia cant detect all external HDD i tried (about 10)

hi...
as the title...
who all are succeded in connecting usb external hdd to iconia ?
cause i tried with two, and booth are not recognized
one is pendrive sense 320gb, second is wd 250gb
all you who can connect, whats your hdd??
fyi, i can connect card reader and usb thumb drive
UPDATE
OKEY..
so i tried connecting my hdd through a powered usb hub, and still no luck,
i tried connect it with a Y cable, one to iconia and onte to powered hub, also no luck ...
is there any other way to try ? tried every thing from usb mount all, ntfs mount, charging while plugging , usb powered, new HDD, fat32 formatted , ntfs HDD and all in vain...
if not then, i am sure my device is defective of something....
How were they formatted? At those sizes, I'm going to guess they were formatted to NTFS which Android cannot read natively. There is, however, a thread in the Development section which includes a driver to enable NTFS support on the A500.
FloatingFatMan said:
How were they formatted? At those sizes, I'm going to guess they were formatted to NTFS which Android cannot read natively. There is, however, a thread in the Development section which includes a driver to enable NTFS support on the A500.
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the first one have fat32 and nts partition, but the second one have 250gb full of fat32
i have installed ntfs mount and usb mount all, they just are not detected at all..
I just got my tab today, rooted and installed ntfs mount. No problems getting into my 500gig external hdd, formatted in ntfs.
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I tried both 320gb Seagate and 750gb passport worked fine...They both formatted in fat32.
HM.. IT SEEMS , ONLY I CANT Get my hdd TO WORK IN ICONIA...
wonder why
is anyone here in asia or may be in indonesia??
may be this is rom related ?
l live in china ,very far from you .....
i still wait for the 3.1 update.
i am not sure can i receive ota update if i root it.
so i dont root ,and still wait.
well ,if i get the update of 3.1 ,i will come back and reply .
i have a 2T hdd, buffalo.
Okey... So now i have tried at least 6 different hdd and all failed...
I start to think ut is my hardware or rom problem?
Any solution ?
When i first connected a hdd i also thought it didn't work. When i looked at mnt/usb_storage.........no filelist. But when i got a cup of coffee and looked again the filelist was there. Apparantly the Acer needs a time to scan the HDD which can be long when it is large. So l'lle patience.
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urbie47 said:
When i first connected a hdd i also thought it didn't work. When i looked at mnt/usb_storage.........no filelist. But when i got a cup of coffee and looked again the filelist was there. Apparantly the Acer needs a time to scan the HDD which can be long when it is large. So l'lle patience.
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how long actually ??
becauuse if this problem persist, i think i will take my device to the service centre,
btw, do they will know that i am rooted ?
last update : i have connected my hdd to iconia for about an hour without any luck,.
come on, do some one here can make a solution for me please ??
i can connect flash drive and card reader but not hdd, tried 6 different of them
even i asked in local acer forum in my country, everyone dont have problem...
so, what you think my problem here?
do i must do factory reset ?
interqd said:
HM.. IT SEEMS , ONLY I CANT Get my hdd TO WORK IN ICONIA...
wonder why
is anyone here in asia or may be in indonesia??
may be this is rom related ?
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Are you sure you have power (external) going into your HD? I tried a WD portable and it wouldn't be read by the A500 until I connected it to an external power supply. Then I could read it without any problems.
iCurmudgeon said:
Are you sure you have power (external) going into your HD? I tried a WD portable and it wouldn't be read by the A500 until I connected it to an external power supply. Then I could read it without any problems.
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how to connect it with external power supply ?
my hdd has only 1 usb slot, not 2 ..
Guy's....just download (HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool) to format your HD's to fat32. I did my 250 & 500GB HD and it work just find. Windows just don't format right...that's why I don't use windows to format my HD's. If you have Linux use Gparted.
I have
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14129262&postcount=8
I also have a 250gb that I can't get to read but then it needs dual-powered cable to be read on my laptop so I expected that. But my 320gb Buffalo, my 32gb Patriot and my 80gb Maxtor read just fine. All are NTFS. I have a 160gb from work that I will try tomorrow.
Connect it to windows and pull up the disk administrator (where you create partitions) and see if the disk is basic or dynamic? Just a hunch... have you tried different cables? And finally I want to be sure you are plugging it into the full sized USB pert and not the micro USB.
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Euclid's Brother said:
Connect it to windows and pull up the disk administrator (where you create partitions) and see if the disk is basic or dynamic? Just a hunch... have you tried different cables? And finally I want to be sure you are plugging it into the full sized USB pert and not the micro USB.
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i am using mac, not windows, my hdd connect fine to mac, how to do this on mac?
not only different cables, yesterday i went to an it mall, there i tried almost 5 different 500gb hdd 2.5 inch, all failed, all have fat32 format, cause i checked them on my mac beforehand
yeah, of course i connect it to the usb 2.0 port..
this is what i dont understand, everyones hdd work fine in the iconia, why my iconia just cant read?
mine don't work either. I have a 1 TB western digital hard drive.
i use ntfs mount,first time install that ntfs mount apk...cant read my hdd but aftter reboot my iconia all partition on hdd can read and walk normal like on my laptop
I'm in Jakarta, so I don't think it can be a rom thing. Are you using NTFS mount, or just trying to plug the HDD into your tab and use the built-in software? Try this and it should fix the problem.

[Q] how to connect the hdd?

hi
i have acer a500 and i have 4.0.3 stock without root and i try to connect my hdd wd NTFS and i see nothing on root explorer or es file explorer or..oi file manager..
what i'm wrong with?
thanks
I7210I said:
hi
i have acer a500 and i have 4.0.3 stock without root and i try to connect my hdd wd NTFS and i see nothing on root explorer or es file explorer or..oi file manager..
what i'm wrong with?
thanks
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It could be a number of things.
First of all, what is the hd you are connecting?
Is it a portable?
Some work and some don't.
A portable HD that does work will draw power from the A500.
When you plug it in you will hear it spin up and the light will flash on it, indication it is being read.
If the light comes on and then immediately goes off then the drive wont work because it probably requires more power.
Also in your file manage it will come up as usb.
And if it does work you nedd to let the A500 read it before opening your file manager.
It will be ready to see in the file manager when the light stops blinking.
Some have found the following to work on some tablets.
Freecom Mobile Drive Classic II 500gb
Seagate GoFlex 1TB
500 gb Freeagent Go
Samsung S2 Portable 640 GB
LaCie's 500GB Rikiki
WD 500G Passport Elite
WD myBook 500GB
WD Elements Portable SE 500GB
Seagate FreeAgent Go Flex 1TB
Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex 500 GB
freeagent go 250gb
maxtor basics portable storage 500GB
Transcend 320gb Storejet external HDD
Iomega 500GB Select Portable
Toshiba Canvio USB 2.0 500 GB
To keep a master list I added from other posts below:
Toshiba Canvio USB 2.0 1TB
Add Transcend 320gb to the list. (NTFS SATA)
Also WD Elements 1Tb (ext power required)
Also add Samsung s2 1Tb and Hitachi Touro 1Tb too, both NTFS sata...
i connect wd essential se 750GB
http://wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=430
it sounds that it works also it shows the light but i can;t see anything
now i'm with 4.0.3 but before i was with 3.2.1 and it works well
so i think the problem maybe with the 4.0.3
someone can help please?
I7210I said:
someone can help please?
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I will hook my hdd later and see if it works and where it shows up, and get back with you.
mine worked fine, and shows up under mnt/usb_storage
I7210I said:
someone can help please?
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I can advise, that sometimes, on HC, I would have to plug and unplug the USB connector several times before it would work. You might try that.
Also, I use File MAnager HD, and just select External Storage.
Add 2tb wd
still no success with it...what else i can do?it can be problem with version?
I7210I said:
still no success with it...what else i can do?it can be problem with version?
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No answer for you mate. Try getting DriveMount from the market, and see if that gets it going. Really shouldn't need it, but in the past, some tablets had to use it for NTFS.
I7210I said:
still no success with it...what else i can do?it can be problem with version?
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At this point try another drive.
i tried another hdd and it works ..the other one is also NTFS -WD Elements
I7210I said:
i tried another hdd and it works ..the other one is also NTFS -WD Elements
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Glad you got it working, if possible I would reformat the one that did not work and give it a try again.
Anyone having a Seagate goflex free agent 1TB can access it through USB on a500?
EDIT: Ok, can access it. Had some problems with the cable earlier..
NTFS is related to Microsoft licensing and Android doesnt have the neccessary license to work , most fat 32 drive will work with no problems , if you have root there are ways around the licensing issues , you might try something like this :
NTFSMount.apk
To use the NTFSMount app,you need root you should follow the instructions below;
- Install APK
- Connect HDD
- Launch app
- Select device
- Click Mount
http://*******/282572/get-ntfsmount-apk
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Moving to Q&A
can you upload again the
NTFSMount
?
and maybe it will help for you that what i did for the version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646042
someone can help me please??
if ther's need to re format the tab again i will do it i need that option for the hdd

[Q] help using external hard drive

Hello all.
I have a quick question about using an external hard drive with my nexus 10. I bought a Fantom Drives desktop style external (with power adapter) to use with my macbook air, my girlfriends win7 laptop, and my nexus 10. I prepped the tablet by rooting it and installing StickMount because I read that was the only way to write to usb storage.
When I plug up the external with my usbOTG cable, it recognizes it and it shows up in Androzip, but none of the files that I put on it from windows show up, and also it will not let me write to it from the tablet either. When I try to write to it (a very small photo), it says "Could not move folder due to system restrictions". I have tried reading and writing to the drive from the tablet with it formatted in NTFS and also with it formatted in exFAT.
Am I just out of luck and the drive will not work with my nexus, or are there any other troubleshooting options I can try? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
jonmike13 said:
Hello all.
I have a quick question about using an external hard drive with my nexus 10. I bought a Fantom Drives desktop style external (with power adapter) to use with my macbook air, my girlfriends win7 laptop, and my nexus 10. I prepped the tablet by rooting it and installing StickMount because I read that was the only way to write to usb storage.
When I plug up the external with my usbOTG cable, it recognizes it and it shows up in Androzip, but none of the files that I put on it from windows show up, and also it will not let me write to it from the tablet either. When I try to write to it (a very small photo), it says "Could not move folder due to system restrictions". I have tried reading and writing to the drive from the tablet with it formatted in NTFS and also with it formatted in exFAT.
Am I just out of luck and the drive will not work with my nexus, or are there any other troubleshooting options I can try? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Try converting the drive to fat32. It should read and write well then!
c1oud said:
Try converting the drive to fat32. It should read and write well then!
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Unfortunately wont FAT32 cap at 4gb? Also, forgive my ignorance but what can I do to format it in FAT32 because my only format options in windows were exFAT and NTFS.
Thanks for the reply!
jonmike13 said:
Unfortunately wont FAT32 cap at 4gb? Also, forgive my ignorance but what can I do to format it in FAT32 because my only format options in windows were exFAT and NTFS.
Thanks for the reply!
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got it to work!! used the Verbatim fat32 format tool. It recognizes all 2 terabytes of space and reads and writes on the nexus 10. Thanks so much for the help!! Very pleased to be able to use my new external with the tablet. Now I just have to play the waiting game for my new Macbook Air to show up
jonmike13 said:
got it to work!! used the Verbatim fat32 format tool. It recognizes all 2 terabytes of space and reads and writes on the nexus 10. Thanks so much for the help!! Very pleased to be able to use my new external with the tablet. Now I just have to play the waiting game for my new Macbook Air to show up
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Nothing at all! The downside of fat32 is that indeed there is a limit for the size of an individual file. You can't write files bigger than 4gb. Also if you try a custom kernel with ntfs support you will be able to read from ntfs but not surely write..!
c1oud said:
Nothing at all! The downside of fat32 is that indeed there is a limit for the size of an individual file. You can't write files bigger than 4gb. Also if you try a custom kernel with ntfs support you will be able to read from ntfs but not surely write..!
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You can sometimes do NTFS-write. It's not unheard of. The downsides of FAT32 are also a lot worse than what you described: it's significantly more prone to corruption and doesn't handle unexpected ejections nearly as well because it's not journalled, and has no support at all for permissions. But for performance and convenience reasons, it really can't be beat at the moment.
Rirere said:
You can sometimes do NTFS-write. It's not unheard of. The downsides of FAT32 are also a lot worse than what you described: it's significantly more prone to corruption and doesn't handle unexpected ejections nearly as well because it's not journalled, and has no support at all for permissions. But for performance and convenience reasons, it really can't be beat at the moment.
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I can write and read with my note 2. However i tried with stock kernel ntfs and nothing happens. I think that in terms of speed ntfs is also faster.
c1oud said:
I can write and read with my note 2. However i tried with stock kernel ntfs and nothing happens. I think that in terms of speed ntfs is also faster.
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Should have clarified. It's a kernel support thing.

[Q] Note 3 and NTFS

Hello,
I've tried to mount my external sd card, which is on ntfs with several tools, but they all fail.
It seems that fuse is not compatible with the selinux ? Is there any chance we can still use NTFS ?
Thanks!
grizmin said:
Hello,
I've tried to mount my external sd card, which is on ntfs with several tools, but they all fail.
It seems that fuse is not compatible with the selinux ? Is there any chance we can still use NTFS ?
Thanks!
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nope but you can use exfat.
muhtesem insan said:
nope but you can use exfat.
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I bought my Note 3 in order to have a mobile media player, using the multimedia docking station, a HDMI monitor and a hard drive. I have several Android devices like MK908 stick which accept NTFS formatted drives. My plan was to root the Note 3 and install the Paragon NTFS driver. Now I had to learn that this will trigger the eFuse circuit, and I will loose my warranty. But since this was the biggest reason to switch from Note 1 to Note 3, I am still planning to root the Note 3, but prior to that I would like to know if then I will most likely be able to use NTFS formatted hard drives bigger than 32GB (this limit is documented for FAT32 drives in the manual of the Samsung docking station).
Are there any experiences?
Thanks in advance!
steff_1964 said:
I bought my Note 3 in order to have a mobile media player, using the multimedia docking station, a HDMI monitor and a hard drive. I have several Android devices like MK908 stick which accept NTFS formatted drives. My plan was to root the Note 3 and install the Paragon NTFS driver. Now I had to learn that this will trigger the eFuse circuit, and I will loose my warranty. But since this was the biggest reason to switch from Note 1 to Note 3, I am still planning to root the Note 3, but prior to that I would like to know if then I will most likely be able to use NTFS formatted hard drives bigger than 32GB (this limit is documented for FAT32 drives in the manual of the Samsung docking station).
Are there any experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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exfat allows drives bigger than 32 gb
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muhtesem insan said:
exfat allows drives bigger than 32 gb
Sent from my SM-N9000Q using Tapatalk
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I know, but my hard drives are in NTFS formatted, and I do not want to reformat them....
So I am curious if the Paragon NTFS driver will work after rooting the Note 3. If there is no way to mount a NTFS formatted drive, I will not void my warranty by blowing the eFuse...
steff_1964 said:
I know, but my hard drives are in NTFS formatted, and I do not want to reformat them....
So I am curious if the Paragon NTFS driver will work after rooting the Note 3. If there is no way to mount a NTFS formatted drive, I will not void my warranty by blowing the eFuse...
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I have rooted and installed paragon Ntfs. Still not work on NTFS drive.
install Civz rom. it support mounting ntfs drive. work like a charm on my note 3
USB stick plugin for total commander works but it is a paid app. You also have to run it before you plug in the Hdd and are limited to using total commander as a file explorer for NTFS drives....
Try this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.shajul.usbotg
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semeru said:
Try this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.shajul.usbotg
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Tried OTG helper, didn't help... Tried all the NTFS mount apps in the playstore and found USB stick plugin for total commander to be the only thing that works for now....
ultramag69 said:
Tried OTG helper, didn't help... Tried all the NTFS mount apps in the playstore and found USB stick plugin for total commander to be the only thing that works for now....
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great find mate, I was looking for something to work on note 10.1 and note 3, when nothing worked, this is working perfect and without root
thanks a lot
ultramag69 said:
Tried OTG helper, didn't help... Tried all the NTFS mount apps in the playstore and found USB stick plugin for total commander to be the only thing that works for now....
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You need a custom kernel which allows SELinux Permissive.
Then install any NTFS app paragon or USB OTG mounter etc.
NTFS drives will work.
vikas724 said:
You need a custom kernel which allows SELinux Permissive.
Then install any NTFS app paragon or USB OTG mounter etc.
NTFS drives will work.
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why do u need all that workarounds when there is a perfectly good app which works and that too without root
saj2001ind said:
why do u need all that workarounds when there is a perfectly good app which works and that too without root
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because I don't think writing into NTFS drives will work.
For normal reading NTFS drives nexus media importer also works fine.
I'm thinking to do similar setup and I agree, loading custom ROM's seems way too much, especially considering other consequences, like lost warranty or in my case loosing WiFi calling, which makes it total No Go. For simple streaming, reading may be all we need, If I want writing, I was thinking to set up secondary partition, FAT32 or exFat to dump files on to. Doing housekeeping chores, like moving files, sorting etc. I would be using my laptop anyhow, which could access everything without restrictions, since Android is way too cumbersome. And just to make sure, there are Win programs, like partition magic, that will let you repartition active drive without loosing data or moving it.
But I must say, it blows my mind how many restrictions Android has without rooting, especially being based on open source.
vikas724 said:
because I don't think writing into NTFS drives will work.
For normal reading NTFS drives nexus media importer also works fine.
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You are correct you can read but not write to NTFS drives. When I attempt to copy a file to the drive I get an error message that says: Error writing to target file!
Thanks SELinux.
grizmin said:
Hello,
I've tried to mount my external sd card, which is on ntfs with several tools, but they all fail.
It seems that fuse is not compatible with the selinux ? Is there any chance we can still use NTFS ?
Thanks!
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TRY USING PARAGON NFTS from the google play store.
adilrenzu said:
TRY USING PARAGON NFTS from the google play store.
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Tried that along with Roehsoft's Partition Manager. Permission is denied
speedy1979 said:
Tried that along with Roehsoft's Partition Manager. Permission is denied
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u need to running a custom kernel, i have successfully mounted my 2TB Toshiba HDD using Paragon and lean kernel
In other words we have to make selinux become permissive or disabled?
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Fire 10 suddently says nfts flash drive is unsupported, it read fine last week

I know it only supports FAT32, but until i lost my adapter that came with my Samsung 10 it used to read the ntfs flash no problem, but now says unsupported file structure. I was also using a different flash that was lost with the adapter. I bought the same adapter on ebay but using a different flash. Could that be the problem? Im not rooted, but that didnt matter before. Want to be able to transfer movies over 4GB like i have until this week. Thanks
Yankee6 said:
I know it only supports FAT32, but until i lost my adapter that came with my Samsung 10 it used to read the ntfs flash no problem, but now says unsupported file structure. I was also using a different flash that was lost with the adapter. I bought the same adapter on ebay but using a different flash. Could that be the problem? Im not rooted, but that didnt matter before. Want to be able to transfer movies over 4GB like i have until this week. Thanks
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NTFS is designed for the Microsoft Windows operating systems, not on some Android devices.
You can try to format as exFAT or FAT32. exFAT is same as NTFS.
You can transfer your movies using MTP.
AmznUser444 Dev said:
NTFS is designed for the Microsoft Windows operating systems, not on some Android devices.
You can try to format as exFAT or FAT32. exFAT is same as NTFS.
You can transfer your movies using MTP.
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Exfat didnt work either same error as with NTFS.
Yankee6 said:
Exfat didnt work either same error as with NTFS.
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Because Amazon doesn't pay to Microsoft to use NTFS and ExFAT.
You can transfer your media from your PC to Fire tablet using USB.
AmznUser444 Dev said:
Because Amazon doesn't pay to Microsoft to use NTFS and ExFAT.
You can transfer your media from your PC to Fire tablet using USB.
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but it DID work before. I guess no one can explain how this was possible then and not now. I keep the tablet at work and bring flash drives to transfer movies. Wanted to be able to transfer movies over 4 gig, but guess ive lost the ability to do that now.
You could try exFAT/NTFS for USB by Paragon. Maybe that can read the drive

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